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[HaughtyFrank]

Just one time I'd actually like to see an example of how she's funding trans hate with her billions or buying up politicians. Really the worst she seems to be doing is writing snarky tweets

[PogiJones]

whenever someone cis whines

Not a slur, btw

[Boredfrom]

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Thread title: "Has there been a more painful fall from grace than that of Kanye West?"

https://www.resetera.com/threads/has-there-been-a-more-painful-fall-from-grace-than-that-of-kanye-west-a-thread-about-reconciling-your-idolization-nostalgia-with-your-values.767813/











(And of course Kuntuji had to get his 2 cents in)




All I can say is... lol wut?

JK Rowling hasn't had any fall from grace. 

She's still one of the most respected women in the world, the Harry Potter franchise still brings in hundreds of millions of dollars a year and the overwhelming sales and success of Hogwarts Legacy should have made it clear to these nutcases and their ridiculous, hateful, orchestrated boycott campaign that they have about as much power in the real world as an ant trying to push a mountain.

If anything, it's the entire trans community that has had the post painful fall from grace with their nastiness and insanity. How much support have they lost even among moderates?

Almost all of it, because at best, the vast majority of us are completely indifferent to trans-causes and don't give a shit anymore.

It never ceases to amaze me how much they fucked up with JK Rowling. They could have had a true powerful 'ally' if they engaged her properly, instead of constantly screaming abuse like a pack of screeching retards

All she ever basically said in that big-assed essay that the transmafia lost their mind over was 'Hey, young kids are stupid, going through natural hormonal changes, so they are too young to be getting permanently life changing puberty blockers because they'll fuck their body, brains and lives up forever.'

In other words... JK Rowling was stating common fucking sense.

Madness.

I suspect they thought:

•  She was a easy target to harass to get their way because some woke fumbles (Dumbledore being gay but never showing it and wizards shitting on the floor) and how badly the Fantastic Beasts stuff is being received.
  

• They genuinely thought that progress is a straight line and human civilization is not cyclical. The trans humanist push is some circles seem to want to ignore the caveats about it. 
  

I don’t like alt righters and they can be as delusional as lefties at RE, but they seem to be less self destructive when stuff don’t go their way compared with the vocal part of the Trans Community.

[Lonewulfeus]

And somehow despite spending her life causing trans people to die, she’s still found time to raise a family and write 8 books since Harry Potter.  She must never sleep!

[Boredfrom]

She literally caused people to die.

Ayyyy… fuck you. That’s why people are not taking the trans genocide shit seriously.

[books]

Looks like that topic was just a trojan horse to talk shit about jk Rowling somewhere other than the containment area.

[kaleidoscopium]

Remember when the mods said all HP discussion is banned and all JK Rowling discussion had to stay in her containment thread lest we give her more power? 

😏

[Uncle]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/has-there-been-a-more-painful-fall-from-grace-than-that-of-kanye-west-a-thread-about-reconciling-your-idolization-nostalgia-with-your-values.767813/#post-112524248

Yeah, with mine I was speaking personal upset with people I was engaged with, but while I was never into her work, Rowling has to be the worst, right?

She's literally caused people to die

name one name

literally name one name

you know how they always say to focus on the victims of violence rather than the perpetrators? how we shouldn't glorify school shooters, but continually remember those who might've given their lives to stop them or slow them down?

name the names of people rowling has killed, let's salute them and cherish their sacrifices in our hearts forever

[Averon]

They especially hate Rowling since their usual tactics of getting people fired and de-platformed doesn't work:

-She can't get fired from any job
-Will have "Fuck you" money until the day she die
-Is a woman with a long feminist record, which makes it harder than usual to get women to turn against her
-Will never get banned off of Twitter, her biggest outlet, especially now since Elon owns it
-Gives as good as she gets when they attack her

[Uncle]

and again, as a reminder:

https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-how-many-trans-people-murdered-uk

For the purposes of this article, we’re going to use stats from the trans rights organisation, Transrespect Versus Transphobia Worldwide. This is the source of figures often cited by trans campaigners.

So what does that data tell us?

The latest Transrespect report says there were 369 “reported murders of trans and gender-diverse people between 1 October 2017 and 30 September 2018” around the world.

Nearly half of those (167) took place in Brazil, and a further 28 were recorded in the United States.

According to these figures, there was one trans person murdered in the UK in that time, and a total of nine trans people were murdered in the UK between 2008 and 2017. That’s an average rate of one victim per year.

A back-of-envelope calculation based on this data would suggest that the average trans person has a one-in-200,000 to one-in-500,000 chance of being murdered in the UK over the course of a year.

How does that compare to the wider population?

Figures from the ONS for 2008 to 2017 show that the average adult in England and Wales has a one-in-100,000 chance of being murdered in a given year.

The limited data we’re working with suggests that in the UK at least, a trans person is less likely to be murdered than the average person. But it’s worth bearing in mind that the recorded number of trans murder victims is so small that it would only take one or two more murder cases every year for the UK “trans murder rate” to double or triple. And until new reporting methods come in, we are making this calculation based on unofficial figures. We should therefore be very wary of drawing firm conclusions.

also, it's hard to find information on this as it's suppressed everywhere, but there was a recent year in the UK where there were zero reported trans deaths at all

not murders, not sickness, not old age, in the midst of genocide zero trans people died all year

[Uncle]

They especially hate Rowling since their usual tactics of getting people fired and de-platformed doesn't word:

-She can't get fired from any job
-Will have "Fuck you" money until the day she die
-Is a woman with a long feminist record, which makes it harder than usual to get women to turn against her
-Will never get banned off of Twitter, her biggest outlet, especially now since Elon owns it
-Gives as good as she gets when they attack her

-Isn't responsible for any deaths so it's really hard to get the claim to stick

[benji]

It's depressing how easily you can manipulate peoples minds. Idiots are dumber than some animals.

Yeah, like convincing people they can change their gender.

[benji]

I'll elaborate.

If gender is a social construct, then it's not in your power to change. You aren't society. (Shocking, I know.)

If gender is an individual expression, then it's meaningless. (And there's especially no reason to believe you should be able to force others to comply.)

The only way to "change" gender would be to adhere to specific stereotypes that match the social construct, something feminists have spent many decades successfully trying to tell everyone to stop doing. We all know this is what they're doing but that's not what they say they're doing, they're claiming those stereotypes they personally believe are innate characteristics of gender which is itself innate and not socially constructed. This is why it typically lapses into either blatantly crude (and offensive) stereotypes or meaningless individual expression. They're trying to shade gender into sex and achieve the material change through a linguistic and cultural change, this is even less possible and should be even more rejected by others.

[Boredfrom]

That's a nice sentiment though it does strike me how far we have to go because it seems like so few people even know what transgender even means (or refuse to believe it exists). You're born trans, and that's an important distinction because it gets to the heart of the injustice of anti-trans bigotry.

If I had a vagina that would not make me a woman, that'd make me a man with a vagina. And anybody who'd try telling me I have to put on a dress and go to the ladies room and start dating men on that basis can get fucked.

I’m trans. I don’t know that everyone trans is born trans. I’m sure some of gender works that way for some people. But I don’t think anyone should have to be born trans or meet criterion other than “wants to be a different gender now” to transition or be considered valid as trans or in their gender. I don’t like that “being born that way” was needed as a precondition for why society started to accept gay people, and in some ways it’s messier with gender.

how about it’s okay if you want to be another gender, without making it into gatekeeping and biotruths

https://www.resetera.com/threads/trump-lashes-out-at-disloyal-howard-stern-after-radio-hosts-criticisms.767669/page-2#post-112527551

[Boredfrom]

how about it’s okay if you want to be another gender, without making it into gatekeeping and biotruths

Feminists should be thrilled…

[Venice]

I’m trans. I don’t know that everyone trans is born trans. I’m sure some of gender works that way for some people. But I don’t think anyone should have to be born trans or meet criterion other than “wants to be a different gender now” to transition or be considered valid as trans or in their gender. I don’t like that “being born that way” was needed as a precondition for why society started to accept gay people, and in some ways it’s messier with gender.

how about it’s okay if you want to be another gender, without making it into gatekeeping and biotruths

https://www.resetera.com/threads/trump-lashes-out-at-disloyal-howard-stern-after-radio-hosts-criticisms.767669/page-2#post-112527551

That word salad reminds me of this old 4chan meme:



(Btw, same Bionic as TheBore's Bionic?  )

[porkbun]

Melody Shreds:


"maybe I'll be the first mentally ill disabled trans woman to shred guitar at a metal show lol"

Probably too late, I think there's a number of bands with trans women in them. Though off the top of my head I seem to recall more trans singers. So fingers crossed! I'm rooting for you!

Life of Agony was fire in the 90s, singer transitioned way back. Great band. One of the good transes

River Runs Red is a top 10 album for me, it honestly got me through some really bad times.  And Mina is a badass.

[Boredfrom]

I just love how the initial post was decrying how “seems that few people knows what trans means” “they are born this way” then an insane asshole say “don’t gatekeep bro, fuck bio truths”.

But is totally others fault that you are considered a bunch of weirdos that cannot even agree in what the fuck a transexual is.

[Alpacx]

You would think that Excel and the online Nazi hunters at Era would be all over the Canadian House of Commons giving a standing ovation to a man who fought for the SS 14th Waffen Division (yes, that SS) in WW2 but I haven't seen anything yet.

I guess it doesn't matter to them because it was a Liberal Speaker and Liberal Prime Minister who extended the invitation to the man and called him a Canadian Hero.

[kaleidoscopium]

Seeing the big shelf that's nothing but Harry Potter materials at Barnes and Noble is always so depressing. It's past time to hang all that up and stop promoting it, at least not while she is still able to enjoy the money from it. It feels like even companies that signal somewhat that they are friendly towards LGBTQ people, such as the Alamo Drafthouse, still won't take a stand on this. My local one has been showing Harry Potter movies all week. Yikes.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/has-there-been-a-more-painful-fall-from-grace-than-that-of-kanye-west-a-thread-about-reconciling-your-idolization-nostalgia-with-your-values.767813/page-2#post-112526504

[Boredfrom]

You would think that Excel and the online Nazi hunters at Era would be all over the Canadian House of Commons giving a standing ovation to a man who fought for the SS 14th Waffen Division (yes, that SS) in WW2 but I haven't seen anything yet.

I guess it doesn't matter to them because it was a Liberal Speaker and Liberal Prime Minister who extended the invitation to the man and called him a Canadian Hero.

>National Post

Yeah, no.

Edit: HOLY SHIT CANADIAN POLITICS

No wonder why they are afraid of losing the next election. They are this dumb.

[Alpacx]

You would think that Excel and the online Nazi hunters at Era would be all over the Canadian House of Commons giving a standing ovation to a man who fought for the SS 14th Waffen Division (yes, that SS) in WW2 but I haven't seen anything yet.

I guess it doesn't matter to them because it was a Liberal Speaker and Liberal Prime Minister who extended the invitation to the man and called him a Canadian Hero.

>National Post

Yeah, no.

It's  a story off the Canadian Press Wire.

Heres a Toronto Star column: https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/jewish-groups-angered-after-parliament-gave-standing-ovation-to-ukrainian-veteran-who-fought-alongside-nazis/article_39af2429-7b44-5ab3-b77f-6d4672e216f1.html

[JoeBoy101]

and again, as a reminder:

https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-how-many-trans-people-murdered-uk

For the purposes of this article, we’re going to use stats from the trans rights organisation, Transrespect Versus Transphobia Worldwide. This is the source of figures often cited by trans campaigners.

So what does that data tell us?

The latest Transrespect report says there were 369 “reported murders of trans and gender-diverse people between 1 October 2017 and 30 September 2018” around the world.

Nearly half of those (167) took place in Brazil, and a further 28 were recorded in the United States.

According to these figures, there was one trans person murdered in the UK in that time, and a total of nine trans people were murdered in the UK between 2008 and 2017. That’s an average rate of one victim per year.

A back-of-envelope calculation based on this data would suggest that the average trans person has a one-in-200,000 to one-in-500,000 chance of being murdered in the UK over the course of a year.

How does that compare to the wider population?

Figures from the ONS for 2008 to 2017 show that the average adult in England and Wales has a one-in-100,000 chance of being murdered in a given year.

The limited data we’re working with suggests that in the UK at least, a trans person is less likely to be murdered than the average person. But it’s worth bearing in mind that the recorded number of trans murder victims is so small that it would only take one or two more murder cases every year for the UK “trans murder rate” to double or triple. And until new reporting methods come in, we are making this calculation based on unofficial figures. We should therefore be very wary of drawing firm conclusions.

also, it's hard to find information on this as it's suppressed everywhere, but there was a recent year in the UK where there were zero reported trans deaths at all

not murders, not sickness, not old age, in the midst of genocide zero trans people died all year

Let me help you.

https://transrespect.org/en/tmm-update-tdor-2022/

The year 2022 saw 327 reported murders of trans and gender-diverse people between 1 October 2021 and 30 September 2022. With 222 cases, Latin America and the Caribbean remains the region that reported most of the murders.

•     327 trans and gender-diverse people were reported murdered;
  
•     Cases from Estonia and Switzerland were reported for the first time – both victims were migrant Black trans women;
  
•     95% of those murdered globally were trans women or trans feminine people;
  
•     Half of murdered trans people whose occupation is known were sex workers;
  
•     Of the cases with data on race and ethnicity, racialised trans people3 make up 65% of the reported murders;
  
•     36% of the trans people reported murdered in Europe were migrants;
  
•     68% of all the murders registered happened in Latin America and the Caribbean; 29% of the total happening in Brazil;
  
•     35% of the murders took place on the street and 27% in their own residence;
  
•     Most of the victims who were murdered were between 31 and 40 years old.

Close to a THIRD of all worldwide trans murders that happened in 2022 were in NepNep's utopia of Brazil.

[Boredfrom]

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You would think that Excel and the online Nazi hunters at Era would be all over the Canadian House of Commons giving a standing ovation to a man who fought for the SS 14th Waffen Division (yes, that SS) in WW2 but I haven't seen anything yet.

I guess it doesn't matter to them because it was a Liberal Speaker and Liberal Prime Minister who extended the invitation to the man and called him a Canadian Hero.

>National Post

Yeah, no.

It's  a story off the Canadian Press Wire.

Heres a Toronto Star column: https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/jewish-groups-angered-after-parliament-gave-standing-ovation-to-ukrainian-veteran-who-fought-alongside-nazis/article_39af2429-7b44-5ab3-b77f-6d4672e216f1.html

[JoeBoy101]

But WAIT, the UK's Trans Murders!!!!

• 2022 - 1
  
• 2021 - 0
  
• 2020 - 0
  
• 2019 - 1
  
• 2018 - 1
  
• 2017 - 0
  
• 2016 - 1
  
• 2015 - 2
  
• 2014 - 0
  
• 2013 - 1
  

So in the past 10 years, 7 trans people murdered. Clearly a dystopian hellhole sliding into genocidal worship.

[benji]

I don’t like that “being born that way” was needed as a precondition for why society started to accept gay people, and in some ways it’s messier with gender.

how about it’s okay if you want to be another gender, without making it into gatekeeping and biotruths

No. Because this is the fundamental difference. The reason to separate the LGB from the TQIA2S+ is not just that the former is a sexual orientation and the latter are not it's because they come with very different requirements of others. Other people being gay does not require anything of you. (Aside from allowing them to suck your dick, but that's just being friendly.) Other people genderqueering imposes a duty on you. This is so easily observable I shouldn't have to make an example but I will, if you say to me "treat me as a woman" this imposes a duty on me to determine what "woman" means to you and check all of my behavior so as to never treat you differently by your standards. (As we have seen with pronouns this applies even if you are not present and will never be aware.) This is a completely unreasonable burden and there is essentially no other instance in which it would not be rejected. It's absolutely perfectly fine for you to dress, "act", think, identify, whatever else as anything you want, but the instant you desire to impose these duties on others that this is no longer acceptable and absolutely is grounds to be debated since you're lucky it's not just rejected on its face.

[Venice]

The year 2022 saw 327 reported murders of trans and gender-diverse people between 1 October 2021 and 30 September 2022. With 222 cases, Latin America and the Caribbean remains the region that reported most of the murders.

•     327 trans and gender-diverse people were reported murdered;
  
•     Cases from Estonia and Switzerland were reported for the first time – both victims were migrant Black trans women;
  
•     95% of those murdered globally were trans women or trans feminine people;
  
•     Half of murdered trans people whose occupation is known were sex workers;
  
•     Of the cases with data on race and ethnicity, racialised trans people3 make up 65% of the reported murders;
  
•     36% of the trans people reported murdered in Europe were migrants;
  
•     68% of all the murders registered happened in Latin America and the Caribbean; 29% of the total happening in Brazil;
  
•     35% of the murders took place on the street and 27% in their own residence;
  
•     Most of the victims who were murdered were between 31 and 40 years old.

Close to a THIRD of all worldwide trans murders that happened in 2022 were in NepNep's utopia of Brazil.

327 trans people murdered each year, and half of them are hookers (known to be a super dangerous occupation)

For comparison...

150 people die each year from coconuts falling on their head (coconut-genocide)
450 people die each year from falling out of bed (bed-genocide)
500 people die each year from being squashed by hippopotamuses (hippo-genocide)
600 people die each year from being trampled by elephants (elephant-genocide)

Where are the threads on all these other genocides, Era??

[benji]

500 people die each year from being squashed by hippopotamuses (hippo-genocide)
600 people die each year from being trampled by elephants (elephant-genocide)

This is way more than I would expect and makes me fear some kind of pachyderms uprising.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/what-is-the-most-significant-and-or-recognizable-hat-in-fiction.767870/

The Sorting Hat

 

[kaleidoscopium]

But WAIT, the UK's Trans Murders!!!!

• 2022 - 1
  
• 2021 - 0
  
• 2020 - 0
  
• 2019 - 1
  
• 2018 - 1
  
• 2017 - 0
  
• 2016 - 1
  
• 2015 - 2
  
• 2014 - 0
  
• 2013 - 1
  

So in the past 10 years, 7 trans people murdered. Clearly a dystopian hellhole sliding into genocidal worship.

JK Rowling really had her fall from grace, since coming out as an EVIL TERF the amount of trans deaths has FALLEN from 6 Pre-Terfening to 1 Post-Terfening. Shameful