Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2)

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/one-piece-isnt-political.1367314/

I'm making my way through One Piece for the first time and had heard this a few times in recent years. I think the streamer Hasanabi really did a good explainer as to why Luffy and the Straw Hats' story is politically charged, but I never knew just how much so until I started watching it for myself.

I think is silly to say that One Piece is particularly politically charged when other shonen stories have used similar plot points since decades. One Piece just happens to be ultra popular (and mostly well done) because stuff like:

How can anyone say this story isn't political when there's a huge story bit about the World Government killing scholars to shape the world's history themselves? Like, come on now.

Was even in Naruto.  

At this point I cannot resent One Piece used as a political symbol given that a movement that was pissing my government was using it.  But I like to point out that is not as particularly charged compared with other comic stuff, and the political messaging doesn’t goes beyond “FRIENDSHIP AND DREAMS”.

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/psa-let-it-die-inferno-uses-generative-ai-for-background-signboard-textures-records-illustrations-infocast-videos-voices-and-music.1367053/#post-148219525

You guys all skipping this because of AI generated assets better get ready to skip your entire hobby in general real soon.

No opinions in this post, just don't see any way back at this point. All games will end up using AI in some fashion.

No they fucking won't

Well, I just hope for their sake that these posters love playing might-as-well-be-AI indie cozy frog farm sim games for the rest of their lives.

Wait? The Let it Die sequel isn’t free to play? And they want me to pay for it while using AI in stuff they did without it for the free version?  

Suda, pls.



Edit: 460 pesos.

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/quebec-tables-bill-putting-limit-on-public-prayers-extending-religious-symbols-ban-to-daycare-workers-repeals-freedom-of-worship-act.1366768/#post-148201600

 User banned (1 month): dismissing islamophobia

They're well within their rights to call bullshit when they see it though. Or are you seriously arguing that people DO have the right to traumatize others based on their own trauma?

Why are you expecting them to prioritize your need before theirs?

Quebec has an aversion to religion because they were ruled by catholic church for a while and they don't want any other religion to ever attempt that anymore. So yeah I get why they don't want it in public places. They are not arresting people based on their beliefs

Their religious trauma doesn't give them a license to religiously traumatize others.

"religiously traumatize"

[Ethan]

The muslim community is once again, in some ways, victim of their own. In the midst of the Gaza war, some muslim groups have organized regular public prayers in one of Montreal's biggest public square, in front of the city's basilica. It was widely seen, rightly or now, as an act of trolling/defiance.

The current government is second to last in the polls, just in front of the local commies. So they're throwing everything to the wall that might stick in the hope of salvaging a few seats in bumfuck, nowhere. Their problem is that the party at the top of polls is even more pro-laicity, or anti-islam depending on how you look at it.

[Snoopy]

If I was a Muslim I’d move next door to Nep and build a mosque in my front garden

[DavidCroquet]

✨moderator highlighted post✨ 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/psa-let-it-die-inferno-uses-generative-ai-for-background-signboard-textures-records-illustrations-infocast-videos-voices-and-music.1367053/page-3#post-148221364

Sorry, mini rant incoming.

The greatest lie the AI industry has told is that "everyone's already using it"

It is actually not difficult to avoid incorporating the vast majority of this bullshit into your work. It's not about 'saving money', it's at the point where clearly folks are taking shortcuts at the cost of their game's integrity. And it's baffling because it drains the passion and the joy out of creating an original work.

And the sad truth is, a lot of indie development is not just about making games: it's about working with other people, and forging relationships that you can leverage in the future when you move onto the next project. You deny yourself and your studio this benefit when you rely on slop.

We're working on 4 games right now, coordinating with multiple artists, writers - none of them use this shit. We've also baked it into our contracts that no GenAI tools (or 'assistive' bullshit) are to be used at any point in the creative process.

We do all of our own coding in house, so it's easy to avoid programming 'assists'. All of our in house art similarly eschews the use of generative assistance as well.

In part, we also make sure to stick with people who we've been working with for prior projects who've already rejected the use of such tools.

If you need to lean on theft because you can't afford to pay someone to do it right, then IMO it's because you've scoped and budgeted your project poorly.

If there is one bright side to all this, it really enhances the value of games that actively avoid using generative tools.

And let's be honest, when large studios push AI tools on their developers, is any of the money they are saving going toward the budget of the game? Does any of it go to bonuses for the developers? Nah. It goes directly to the c-suites bonuses, and bottom line, and people get laid off after a project is done all the same.

Ok, Truant Pixel, hm, sounds promising. Maybe I can avoid AI tainted games after all…

https://www.truantpixel.com/games.html

[Ethan]

ROC people are so full of shit  

Who, apart from muslims, has a very positive view of Islam? You don't need to put on an enlightened atheist fedora to think that no one should have a "very positive" view of any religion you don't practice, especially not Islam (or Catholicism) considering their many well-known flaws.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/stuck-in-neutral-in-their-starter-homes-what-are-millennials-to-do.1365910/

No Nepenthe posts. 

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/what-are-some-essential-saturday-night-live-sketches.1367020/

Someone post a Pat sketch.

[filler]

bring back the cosby emote!

[HaughtyFrank]

✨moderator highlighted post✨ 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/psa-let-it-die-inferno-uses-generative-ai-for-background-signboard-textures-records-illustrations-infocast-videos-voices-and-music.1367053/page-3#post-148221364

Sorry, mini rant incoming.

The greatest lie the AI industry has told is that "everyone's already using it"

It is actually not difficult to avoid incorporating the vast majority of this bullshit into your work. It's not about 'saving money', it's at the point where clearly folks are taking shortcuts at the cost of their game's integrity. And it's baffling because it drains the passion and the joy out of creating an original work.

And the sad truth is, a lot of indie development is not just about making games: it's about working with other people, and forging relationships that you can leverage in the future when you move onto the next project. You deny yourself and your studio this benefit when you rely on slop.

We're working on 4 games right now, coordinating with multiple artists, writers - none of them use this shit. We've also baked it into our contracts that no GenAI tools (or 'assistive' bullshit) are to be used at any point in the creative process.

We do all of our own coding in house, so it's easy to avoid programming 'assists'. All of our in house art similarly eschews the use of generative assistance as well.

In part, we also make sure to stick with people who we've been working with for prior projects who've already rejected the use of such tools.

If you need to lean on theft because you can't afford to pay someone to do it right, then IMO it's because you've scoped and budgeted your project poorly.

If there is one bright side to all this, it really enhances the value of games that actively avoid using generative tools.

And let's be honest, when large studios push AI tools on their developers, is any of the money they are saving going toward the budget of the game? Does any of it go to bonuses for the developers? Nah. It goes directly to the c-suites bonuses, and bottom line, and people get laid off after a project is done all the same.

Ok, Truant Pixel, hm, sounds promising. Maybe I can avoid AI tainted games after all…

https://www.truantpixel.com/games.html

They did this before in the other thread. "Hey look at those indie devs who barely makes end meet and no one has ever heard of, they don't use AI! So this CEO of the 10 billion company is wrong!"

[Mediocre Lager]

Yeah but did that 10 billion dollar company create art like this?



Checkmate, atheist.

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/one-piece-isnt-political.1367314/

I'm making my way through One Piece for the first time and had heard this a few times in recent years. I think the streamer Hasanabi really did a good explainer as to why Luffy and the Straw Hats' story is politically charged, but I never knew just how much so until I started watching it for myself.

I think is silly to say that One Piece is particularly politically charged when other shonen stories have used similar plot points since decades. One Piece just happens to be ultra popular (and mostly well done) because stuff like:

How can anyone say this story isn't political when there's a huge story bit about the World Government killing scholars to shape the world's history themselves? Like, come on now.

Was even in Naruto.  

At this point I cannot resent One Piece used as a political symbol given that a movement that was pissing my government was using it.  But I like to point out that is not as particularly charged compared with other comic stuff, and the political messaging doesn’t goes beyond “FRIENDSHIP AND DREAMS”.

There's the problem 

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/one-piece-isnt-political.1367314/

I'm making my way through One Piece for the first time and had heard this a few times in recent years. I think the streamer Hasanabi really did a good explainer as to why Luffy and the Straw Hats' story is politically charged, but I never knew just how much so until I started watching it for myself.

I think is silly to say that One Piece is particularly politically charged when other shonen stories have used similar plot points since decades. One Piece just happens to be ultra popular (and mostly well done) because stuff like:

How can anyone say this story isn't political when there's a huge story bit about the World Government killing scholars to shape the world's history themselves? Like, come on now.

Was even in Naruto.  

At this point I cannot resent One Piece used as a political symbol given that a movement that was pissing my government was using it.  But I like to point out that is not as particularly charged compared with other comic stuff, and the political messaging doesn’t goes beyond “FRIENDSHIP AND DREAMS”.

World Government? Killing academics? Sounds very leftist to me. One Piece is a right wing political story.

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/one-piece-isnt-political.1367314/

How can anyone say this story isn't political when there's a huge story bit about the World Government killing scholars to shape the world's history themselves? Like, come on now.

Is this political? Especially "politically charged" as his other post said?

How many leaps from the premise do I have to make before I can get to anything even resembling relevant to the existing political context of Japan or the West? Aside from the occasional Booshka or Nepenthe, I'd say 99% of people would agree killing scholars is wrong just on ethical, not political grounds. And most likely not just because they're scholars but because they're people. Like their inability to grasp the concept of empathy they often seem to confuse simple ethics or morals with a "political" setting for politics. 

If almost any kind of popular media is strongly informing your politics then you're probably not actually ever engaging with politics. Modern millenarianists who see literally everything as part of the grand cosmic battle between Good and Evil almost universally choose to check out completely from politics even if they do vote and scroll endlessly.

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/one-piece-isnt-political.1367314/

How can anyone say this story isn't political when there's a huge story bit about the World Government killing scholars to shape the world's history themselves? Like, come on now.

Is this political? Especially "politically charged" as his other post said?

How many leaps from the premise do I have to make before I can get to anything even resembling relevant to the existing political context of Japan or the West? Aside from the occasional Booshka or Nepenthe, I'd say 99% of people would agree killing scholars is wrong just on ethical, not political grounds. And most likely not just because they're scholars but because they're people. Like their inability to grasp the concept of empathy they often seem to confuse simple ethics or morals with a "political" setting for politics. 

If almost any kind of popular media is strongly informing your politics then you're probably not actually ever engaging with politics. Modern millenarianists who see literally everything as part of the grand cosmic battle between Good and Evil almost universally choose to check out completely from politics even if they do vote and scroll endlessly.

What kind of academics are we talking about here? Because I'd definitely be willing to listen to arguments on the social sciences...

[Boredfrom]

Potato cannot read:

And most likely not just because they're scholars but because they're people.

[Boredfrom]

✨moderator highlighted post✨ 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/psa-let-it-die-inferno-uses-generative-ai-for-background-signboard-textures-records-illustrations-infocast-videos-voices-and-music.1367053/page-3#post-148221364

Sorry, mini rant incoming.

The greatest lie the AI industry has told is that "everyone's already using it"

It is actually not difficult to avoid incorporating the vast majority of this bullshit into your work. It's not about 'saving money', it's at the point where clearly folks are taking shortcuts at the cost of their game's integrity. And it's baffling because it drains the passion and the joy out of creating an original work.

And the sad truth is, a lot of indie development is not just about making games: it's about working with other people, and forging relationships that you can leverage in the future when you move onto the next project. You deny yourself and your studio this benefit when you rely on slop.

We're working on 4 games right now, coordinating with multiple artists, writers - none of them use this shit. We've also baked it into our contracts that no GenAI tools (or 'assistive' bullshit) are to be used at any point in the creative process.

We do all of our own coding in house, so it's easy to avoid programming 'assists'. All of our in house art similarly eschews the use of generative assistance as well.

In part, we also make sure to stick with people who we've been working with for prior projects who've already rejected the use of such tools.

If you need to lean on theft because you can't afford to pay someone to do it right, then IMO it's because you've scoped and budgeted your project poorly.

If there is one bright side to all this, it really enhances the value of games that actively avoid using generative tools.

And let's be honest, when large studios push AI tools on their developers, is any of the money they are saving going toward the budget of the game? Does any of it go to bonuses for the developers? Nah. It goes directly to the c-suites bonuses, and bottom line, and people get laid off after a project is done all the same.

Ok, Truant Pixel, hm, sounds promising. Maybe I can avoid AI tainted games after all…

https://www.truantpixel.com/games.html

They did this before in the other thread. "Hey look at those indie devs who barely makes end meet and no one has ever heard of, they don't use AI! So this CEO of the 10 billion company is wrong!"

Both are cunts that shouldn’t be trusted.  

I’m not going to pay Suda for a less effort sequel of a free to play game.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/trump-says-he-will-cancel-all-biden-orders-%E2%80%98signed-by-autopen%E2%80%99-and-threatens-ex-president-with-%E2%80%98perjury%E2%80%99-charges.1367707/#post-148236235

He should be given a gun and the location of president Biden.

Go ahead masculine god Emperor Trump, bring the head of Sleepy Communist Biden after you best that son of a bitch in a 1v1. The DOJ cannot take this victory from you, AMERICA demands you end the life of this joke of a president. The glory is yours to take!

But you're going to flex without doing anything at all because you're too much of a fucking pussy, orange asshole.

[filler]

zeo needs to lay the law down on these scrubs 

[Boredfrom]

You guys all skipping this because of AI generated assets better get ready to skip your entire hobby in general real soon.

You mean I'd finally have the final reason to tear myself away from this bullshit hobby with its terrible community and spend my life doing more important things?

That's a win for me, bucko.

 

Why not start now?

[benji]

Where else would she find the captured audience willing to be lectured by her?

edit: Also, posting on a message board where you hate everyone and getting angry about other people in the "community" and whites in general is a completely different hobby from gaming.

[clockwork5]

If I was a Muslim I’d move next door to Nep and build a mosque in my front garden

Be real, you cant afford to be Nep’s neighbor.

[Besticus Maximus]

Why does she talk like a 90s privately educated bully? Oh wait

[benji]

There's so many weird posts on that forum where they're like "I love this game but the fans make it impossible to enjoy" and similar. It's like, who fucking cares? Just enjoy the game? Don't go reading Twitter or forums about it? Or find "safe" forums like Era where everyone is playing it for the high femme ideals instead?

Then there's the "I would be so embarrassed to be seen playing this game", who the fuck is going to see you play it? Feels like half the forum freely posts porn content under their usernames and talks about their fetishes and openly plays transphobic games but imagine if the popular kids knew they played some dumbass shit they enjoy.

That Nepenthe post, and many others on there, drips with this unfathomable weight that this or that "community" (or "news events") supposedly places on them. You can just opt out! Repeat after me, you're allowed to be an individual. What other people are doing does not reflect on you if you aren't participating and especially not if you're criticizing it. Nothing will happen if you just ignore it. There's nobody to hold you to account except yourself.

Meanwhile they're constantly telling other people to grow up when they haven't stopped status seeking paranoia in the style of junior high. They even spend all their online time™ forming cliques and trying to ostracize each other for irrelevant slights and out-of-fashion missteps.

[Uncle]

If turkey is so damn good, why you morons only eat it once a year?

maybe this isn't a thing where you live, but turkey is a pretty standard deli meat, sandwich shops, turkey bacon club etc.

it's never a top choice but it's not like I'd turn it down

[Potato]

Potato cannot read:

And most likely not just because they're scholars but because they're people.

What are you bleating about now retard?

[books]

These losers want to fuck their mirror images. 

I wont be watching zootopia 2 but it must be weird when kids are watching it next to dirty ass furry perverts.

[simiansmarts]

These losers want to fuck their mirror images. 

I wont be watching zootopia 2 but it must be weird when kids are watching it next to dirty ass furry perverts.

The Zootopia situation is crazy, I haven't seen this much concentrated thirst for an animated character since Elastigirl in Incredibles 2 back in 2018 
 
 We need to bring back "yiff in hell" posting.

[Uncle]

BOYCOTT 👏 DISNEY 👏 STILL 👏

They're complaining because animals in a kids movie don't fuck? for real?

as much as they don't deserve any benefit of the doubt, I'm pretty sure they mean that they're disappointed it doesn't end with showing a bunch of fox-bunnies running around, like the end of Shrek 2 or something