Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2)

[BananaBlast]

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Institutionalized sexism/sexualization is one thing, the patterns of which naturally lead to implicit and subconscious biases just like racism. That's a predictable consequence and it can be difficult to talk through even if people are receptive to hearing it out, but that's expected and commonplace in my mind.

No, what shocks and disturbs me here are the people who didn't even clock or identify a child's face in a sexual context until it was pointed out to them. That should be an automated biological response of disgust, even mega-chuds like Asmongold had instant knee-jerk reaction to this shit. You have to go out of your way to condition yourself to that kind of material if your brain is no longer automatically differentiating between adults and children.

This fucking mentally ill pedophile is trying to assert that even if a grown ass woman has a 10/10 babyface, your brain is naturally hardwired to evoke a feeling of disgust as if you were looking at a 10 year old. 

And if you aren't, the only explanation is you have "conditioned yourself with pornography" to "not be able to tell the difference between adults and children" 

I would argue that there is a specific genre of content (and related pornography) which contributes to this but I don't want to derail too much. I'll just say it says a lot about the kind of content you consume when certain things don't register anymore.

Well, why don't you say what it is? Oh wait, but then you'd get sussed out for mentioning it (whatever it is you're talking about, something you're probably knee deep into) and then banned, you mentally diseased presumptuous porn addicted sack of shit.

[Taco Bell Tower]

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Institutionalized sexism/sexualization is one thing, the patterns of which naturally lead to implicit and subconscious biases just like racism. That's a predictable consequence and it can be difficult to talk through even if people are receptive to hearing it out, but that's expected and commonplace in my mind.

No, what shocks and disturbs me here are the people who didn't even clock or identify a child's face in a sexual context until it was pointed out to them. That should be an automated biological response of disgust, even mega-chuds like Asmongold had instant knee-jerk reaction to this shit. You have to go out of your way to condition yourself to that kind of material if your brain is no longer automatically differentiating between adults and children.

This fucking mentally ill pedophile is trying to assert that even if a grown ass woman has a 10/10 babyface, your brain is naturally hardwired to evoke a feeling of disgust as if you were looking at a 10 year old. 

And if you aren't, the only explanation is you have "conditioned yourself with pornography" to "not be able to tell the difference between adults and children" 

I would argue that there is a specific genre of content (and related pornography) which contributes to this but I don't want to derail too much. I'll just say it says a lot about the kind of content you consume when certain things don't register anymore.

Well, why don't you say what it is? Oh wait, but then you'd get sussed out for mentioning it (whatever it is you're talking about, something you're probably knee deep into) and then banned, you mentally diseased presumptuous porn addicted sack of shit.

[BananaBlast]

Isn't the person Crossing eden quoted right? 18 years is seen as being a adult in most countries. That game crush thread cyber fetish made had a example of Pokemon gym Leader who doesn't look older than 12

Dude he starts off by saying it's a child, then when someone posts a korean model in response, he says:

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My brother in christ a nineTEEN year old does NOT help your argument.

This is genuinely one of the worst IP possible. Because jesus christ people jump through so many hoops to defend how gross it is you'd think they were training for the Olympics. Only it's worse in this case because Eve was with zero ambiguity, an adult woman. Somehow we arrived at "She's technically an adult" like fam i'm in my thirties, teenagers are children law be damned.

"I'm mad that I'm in my thirties, so 19 year olds are teenagers and are therefore literal children"  

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smiling at normal people hating new girl for looking too young

It is not the "normal people" who are hating on this.

and chuds hating her cause she "has an ugly fat face"

Absolutely nobody said this at all. Completely made it the fuck up award.

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/french-iranian-gaphic-novelist-marjane-satrapi-persepolis-has-died-at-56.1539007/

Most of Hamas Era seems to be missing, except Spineduke that didn’t bother to say RIP.

[Taco Bell Tower]

19 years old are children now?  Wtf Crossing Eden 

[Rendle]

Old enough to drive a car and drink in a bar, not old enough to collect coins and power-ups

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/french-iranian-gaphic-novelist-marjane-satrapi-persepolis-has-died-at-56.1539007/

Most of Hamas Era seems to be missing, except Spineduke that didn’t bother to say RIP.

Of course they're pretending that all the people attacking her comic for "islamophobia" aren't actually left wing

[Daffy Duck]

I won't link it due to extreme naughty language

but

youtube video called White for 99 cents

Constructive 

The problem is the highlighted absolutely never happens. So it shouldn't be a surprise there is eventually a line that causes people to snap and go after people who aren't saying anything about it while celebrating the gameplay, because not saying anything is how these things fester in communities. Pedophilia is not something a lot of people want to be around, even if it's hidden behind GOTY discussion, hype, and sales threads.



I'm willing to wait to see if they age her up before asking it to be banned, but Stellar Blade was already a sore spot for a lot of women here, so it doesn't feel great to see them tripling down while men here brush it off like usual.

This is pretty much how I feel, but honestly is kind of the history of this forum as long as I've seen it too. Era has been pretty inconsistent on what types of discussion are allowed, whether it's Cyberpunk or the Wizard Game or AI or whatever else being banned or confined to specific threads, or putting a big angry reminder about genocide on anything Microsoft because of BDS but otherwise allowing it. Some things are allowed, some aren't, and to some extent that makes sense because it's a constant negotiation with the community, but it means that there has been very little consistency on where the line is exactly. I guess we'll find out how compelling the "1000 year old dragon android" defense of Stellar Blade 2 ends up being as the discussion develops.



There is always going to be discussion that some want, some tolerate, and some can't stand. Some are going to feel that using the ignore list to customize what content they see is sufficient, some are going to be angry that the staff aren't doing "enough" to appease them. Unless Era and its staff want to be hardline "no" on certain topics, whether that's genocide, or transphobia, or Elon, or AI, or games with gross sexist vibes, it is very unlikely to change. I have never seen a si.



I wish this place aligned more with my own views sometimes, and sometimes I get pissed at what I see and what the staff is allowed, and I leave for a while. Honestly though, barring a major change in stance from site management, the only true resolution here is "if you don't like it, go find another community, or go make you
r own one."

Coffeecat is everywhere now

it's never enough

THEN JUST FUCKING LEAVE THE FORUM

Oh, that’s right you can’t because you’re addicted to the drama of it all and the oppression

[Potato]

Crashing out hard

Holy shit, the bans in that SB2 thread are absolutely revolting. What kind of forum allows those types of people to fester while banning the people calling them out because they aren't nice enough about it? That's just taking a side in favor of the sexualized depiction of a child. Like, I would say it's FAR less civil to be promoting that shit than it is to rudely call out people for promoting that shit. Civility policing is not so black and white.

Anyway, I would love more muscle tone on Tifa. She's strong and so it fits her character. And she'd look so cool.

Stellar Blade 2 is the ultimate right wing game. Dehumanization of female characters, pedophilia, and only male-gazes welcome. It is intentionally pushing a very specific world view.

The fact that dancing around the issues with it is deemed fine, while despairing over others doing that dance is ban worthy is the absolute wrong approach. No

The Stellar Blade 2 trailer is what made me discover this thread and all I have to ask if various ratings boards in different countries will ban the game for sexualizing minors?

That trailer was some of the grossest shit I've seen in my almost 40 years of gaming, much worse than when Hatred was a thing because this is a larger company putting out a trailer of an expensive production at a large media event with millions of viewers which in turn normalizes sexualization of child-looking characters.

I wonder if Geoff Keighley saw the trailer and approved it or something. Or maybe the money was too good and he didn't care.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-make-her-look-more-corpulent-more-stuffed-where-the-eyes-cant-escape.275780/page-533#post-155996881

Yeah the bans in the thread gross me out. I'm just not gonna even bother discussing it outside this thread.

Yeah just gonna bitch about it and people who play it in your little safe space, pussy ass little bitch

You can see how they so easily convince themselves that men can be women when they have constructed this elaborate fantasy about a fucking video game for horny teenagers.

[Potato]

how could it be the ultimate right wing game when the ring wing is christian conservatives who would hate that she's not dressed like a modest housewife, and also she's one o them asian foreigners

How can they be left wing when they act like christian conservatives who hate that she's not dressed like a modest housewife and who hate that she's one o them Asian foreigners.

[Let's Cyber]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/jeff-grubb-says-gears-of-war-e-day-was-originally-going-to-come-to-ps5-but-the-decision-was-just-made-to-not-bring-the-game-to-ps5.1542799/page-18#post-156019039

One thing I am grateful for is that boycotting Xbox has made it easier to just not care about this anymore. I can't imagine being invested in all this with a company that's just feels like they have zero direction right now.

   Boycotting Microsoft for dead Palestinian children

Having peace of mind regarding Xbox's terrible decisions

[Potato]

Fucking hell 

I'd like to believe Geoff knows exactly what he was doing here and that this was a malicious, targeted orbital strike. But also he's just goofy Video Game Host Man posting things about his event, so he has plausible deniability too. What a masterstroke.  

Posting the full length body shot was targeted

[Besticus Maximus]

Need a HBO documentary series about streamers called 'Beneath the Deskline'

[Snoopy]

Shreds needs to get on that and ask the lady if she has a spare room

[Rendle]

Sometimes I wish you guys thought exactly the same way I do about everything, you have no idea how much better it would be that way

[Propagandhim]

I don't remember anyone calling this pedophilia, I guess Tifa doesn't look authentically Asian enough to be demeaned and infantilized.

[Daffy Duck]

I won't link it due to extreme naughty language

but

youtube video called White for 99 cents

I don't remember anyone calling this pedophilia, I guess Tifa doesn't look authentically Asian enough to be demeaned and infantilized.

Didn’t they kick up a royal stink about that though? I’m sure I remember them having a meltdown about the bikinis

[Propagandhim]

I don't remember there being a group effort to label it pedophilia though

[Jansen]

I don't remember anyone calling this pedophilia, I guess Tifa doesn't look authentically Asian enough to be demeaned and infantilized.

That picture has a lot of empty space to the right of tifa

[Jansen]

I can understand the concerns with Evie in the new Stellar Blade game, but Pragmata ended up a case where I do think some people went too far with claims about "intent" behind Diana's design and those conversations just ended up making things awkward to even talk about.



I do agree that while it's fair to criticize the designs shown off in that trailer with Evie, is that enough for a full ban or containment thread already now? I'm sure people will hate me for it, but I'd say no for the moment.

Difference between Pragmata and Stellar Blade is that Shift Up has already shown us who they are with the reveal trailer, as well as their previous games. Capcom has a long history so obviously I'm not going to confidently say it's impossible for them to do anything sus, and they've certainly had their share of sexist designs before. But Shift Up/Stellar Blade has an obvious "brand" that this sequel is continuing.



Pragmata was a debate on if the game was insidiously being marketed to pedos, it came down to whether you wanted to give the game/Capcom the benefit of the doubt or not.



Stellar Blade 2 in comparison gives you an ass shot of the new, very young looking protagonist, puts her in a skin tight suit, etc. It is off to a much worse start, to say the least. We already know the game will sexualize her, the only question now is if the end product is going to make the character look older or not.



Ultimately I do agree it is too early to make any decisions, but the concern around this game is far 
more justified.

[DavidCroquet]

Institutionalized sexism/sexualization is one thing, the patterns of which naturally lead to implicit and subconscious biases just like racism. That's a predictable consequence and it can be difficult to talk through even if people are receptive to hearing it out, but that's expected and commonplace in my mind.

No, what shocks and disturbs me here are the people who didn't even clock or identify a child's face in a sexual context until it was pointed out to them. That should be an automated biological response of disgust, even mega-chuds like Asmongold had instant knee-jerk reaction to this shit. You have to go out of your way to condition yourself to that kind of material if your brain is no longer automatically differentiating between adults and children.

Is he still talking about Stellar Blade, or what's going on here?

[NekoFever]

So many of their descriptions of the crimes of Shift Up read like they’re typing one-handed.

[Potato]

I don't actually find stellar blade (or any video game) all that titillating, I just am living out my hilarious dream scenario of being confronted with these stick-in-the-ass prudes thumbing their nose at you and all you respond with is Waynes World euphemisms for getting a boner. 

 MODS!! MODS!!!!!  He's doing it again!!

who the hell plays a game to get a boner, it would distract from doing well at the game, there are 5000 faster and better ways to get boners

Yeah, but these maniacs have exhausted those 5000 other ways already and need to find something else to stimulate them.

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/tomb-raider-legacy-of-atlantis-is-made-with-the-help-of-genai-but-final-assets-replaced-or-refined-by-humans.1537990/page-10#post-155806432

 User Banned (Permanent): Troll account

It's like being there at the dawn of CGI in movies and protesting the use of computers.

 

“Why people hate AI?  ”

“Is because everyone shit talks it religiously.”  

"Why do people hate AI?"

Do they? 

The only people I see hate AI are failed artists whose meagre online earnings from furry commissions and fan art porn are threatened.

[kaleidoscopium]

Did these people watch the trailer or just read others thoughts on it? There was nothing sexualizing about it, it’s a robot anime fighting other robots

[HaughtyFrank]

They're doing the thing again where they work themselves in a complete frenzy. The character does look young but then they turn it into "a literal child" "this should be illegal" to the point where someone posts a picture of a nineteen year old who looks the same and their response is "wow, way to admit you're a pedophile!"

They always do this, same with Cyberpunk or Harry Potter where they suddenly make insane stretches about why the books are actually transphobic

[simiansmarts]

"but because women post here" 
 

[simiansmarts]

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Institutionalized sexism/sexualization is one thing, the patterns of which naturally lead to implicit and subconscious biases just like racism. That's a predictable consequence and it can be difficult to talk through even if people are receptive to hearing it out, but that's expected and commonplace in my mind.

No, what shocks and disturbs me here are the people who didn't even clock or identify a child's face in a sexual context until it was pointed out to them. That should be an automated biological response of disgust, even mega-chuds like Asmongold had instant knee-jerk reaction to this shit. You have to go out of your way to condition yourself to that kind of material if your brain is no longer automatically differentiating between adults and children.

This fucking mentally ill pedophile is trying to assert that even if a grown ass woman has a 10/10 babyface, your brain is naturally hardwired to evoke a feeling of disgust as if you were looking at a 10 year old. 

And if you aren't, the only explanation is you have "conditioned yourself with pornography" to "not be able to tell the difference between adults and children" 

I would argue that there is a specific genre of content (and related pornography) which contributes to this but I don't want to derail too much. I'll just say it says a lot about the kind of content you consume when certain things don't register anymore.

Well, why don't you say what it is? Oh wait, but then you'd get sussed out for mentioning it (whatever it is you're talking about, something you're probably knee deep into) and then banned, you mentally diseased presumptuous porn addicted sack of shit.

Brawndo Addict definitely has a woman locked up in his basement, I remember that psychotic spiel he wrote about swimsuit costumes in Street Fighter correlating to young girls getting murdered by boys. 
https://thebire.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=378&pid=141370#pid141370

[HardcoreRetro]

I don't remember anyone calling this pedophilia, I guess Tifa doesn't look authentically Asian enough to be demeaned and infantilized.

That picture has a lot of empty space to the right of tifa

My girlfriend, Aeris, told me to say: "This guy are sick."

She's right.

[Rendle]

Blows my mind that people jack off to video-game porn and A.I. porn when there are actual real-world women out there and some of them are incredibly hot and they do porn.