Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2)

[Potato]

Dude, it's just another cog in the long line of efficiency improvements made to the video game production machine. Instead of using stock libraries for inconsequential parts of games, they can use AI for something more customised. If you don't like the AI aesthetic and someone uses too much of it, vote with your wallet and don't buy it.

NOBODY. IS. FORCING. YOU. TO. BUY. GAMES. MADE. WITH. AI.

[kaleidoscopium]

How can AI help us analyze and document this forum analysis?

[kaleidoscopium]

What marriot hotel can I buy this at?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/thermaltake-announces-the-capo-x-computer-case-can-fit-two-separate-systems-into-a-single-case.1543855/#post-156071386

RIP Fag4all

[simiansmarts]

 
 
"massive backlash in Western markets" 
 
 
 
You have to purposefully seek out social media circles and forums with AI psychosis to find the "massive backlash". 95% of the comments I see about the new Crazy Taxi are just people being happy there's a new Crazy Taxi. The bubble is real, these people genuinely believe the new Stellar Blade game is gonna flop because the Era high femme council has personally deemed it gross pedobait misogyny for incel pedo nazis.

[Boredfrom]

Dude, it's just another cog in the long line of efficiency improvements made to the video game production machine. Instead of using stock libraries for inconsequential parts of games, they can use AI for something more customised. If you don't like the AI aesthetic and someone uses too much of it, vote with your wallet and don't buy it.

NOBODY. IS. FORCING. YOU. TO. BUY. GAMES. MADE. WITH. AI.

Then a disclosure is not problem.  

Hell, hide it on the credits for all I care.

[Boredfrom]

t's just another cog in the long line of efficiency improvements

https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/openai-ceo-sam-altman-admits-ai-token-costs-are-becoming-a-huge-issue-company-seeks-improved-value-as-overspending-becomes-a-meme

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Growing pains, I know. But is curious how many of the ProAI talking points are getting more questionable today.

[benji]

 

Like the massive backlash for still posting on (AND PAYING FOR) a Nazi app?

[Uncle]

Dude, it's just another cog in the long line of efficiency improvements made to the video game production machine. Instead of using stock libraries for inconsequential parts of games, they can use AI for something more customised. If you don't like the AI aesthetic and someone uses too much of it, vote with your wallet and don't buy it.

NOBODY. IS. FORCING. YOU. TO. BUY. GAMES. MADE. WITH. AI.

Then a disclosure is not problem.  

Hell, hide it on the credits for all I care.

no, it should not have to be disclosed

if a game comes out that's really poor quality because they used AI for everything and never double checked the assets and all the artwork has 6 fingers and smeared details, then disclosure wasn't even necessary, congrats, you figured it out due to lacking quality

if you can't tell, then the developer literally did nothing wrong, they used a tool as a tool and it didn't compromise on quality at all

likewise some people will say "eww this game has the telltale Unity frame hitch, no thanks" which is evidence that the developers were lacking in their ability to code around a problem and it impacted the game's quality

some people choose not to buy a game because they don't like butt rock, the devs don't need to disclose "warning: this game features butt rock," it becomes obvious in the marketing and reviews

they don't have to tell you anything, all that matters is what's reflected in the final quality of the game

[Taco Bell Tower]

 
 
"massive backlash in Western markets" 
 
 
 
You have to purposefully seek out social media circles and forums with AI psychosis to find the "massive backlash". 95% of the comments I see about the new Crazy Taxi are just people being happy there's a new Crazy Taxi. The bubble is real, these people genuinely believe the new Stellar Blade game is gonna flop because the Era high femme council has personally deemed it gross pedobait misogyny for incel pedo nazis.

I seriously forgot about him lol. He was one of the founding fathers of Ree.

[Orange Juice Box]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/third-kidney-stone-dying-inside-rn.1538908/

3d kidney stone! 

I'm always amazed at how bad ree's eating habits are, but 3 kidney stones? What a fucking moron

If you've had 1, the likelihood you'll have another within 10 years is 50%. I stopped drinking sugary drinks and still had a second one 3 years later. I was already looking into donating a kidney before I had my first stone, which apparently isn't a dealbreaker, but probably means i'd have to be in phenomenal physical health otherwise for me to be a viable donor, which i'm not. Donating a kidney reduces your life expectancy by like 3-5 years, but kidney donors tend to live longer on average than non-donors, because they're so selective.

You are really going to donate a kidney?  I thought I couldn't because I drink too much but I've reduced in the past 10 years.  I would like to give a person a longer life at the cost of 4 of my years.

[simiansmarts]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/stellar-blade-blood-rain-announced-shift-up.1541146/post-155965114

His avatar

I   SEE   YOU

 
https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-make-her-look-more-corpulent-more-stuffed-where-the-eyes-cant-escape.275780/page-535#post-156081142

Maybe I'm just weird, but something tells me the idea that the proven chud developer of SB2 who specifically designed the extremely sexualized protagonist to look unambiguously like a child probably isn't the fault of a potential AI mistranslation.

 
 
You ain't slick, B-Dubs. Convito sees you, call the authorities if you want but it won't matter.

[Shecky Fragbaum]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/gamergate-2-0-chuds-furious-about-a-consulting-company-named-%E2%80%9Csweet-baby-inc%E2%80%9D-which-overviews-scripts-to-make-sure-nothing-offensive-was-written.823731/page-206#post-155987254 

True. I saw the clip of Asmongold saying literally at first glance that Evie looks 12 and was perplexed. Roach King himself.

 
https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-make-her-look-more-corpulent-more-stuffed-where-the-eyes-cant-escape.275780/page-533#post-155987965

Asmongold immediately at first glance look perplexed and aksed why she looks 12.

  
https://www.resetera.com/threads/shift-up-ceo-kim-hyung-tae-confirms-they-intentionally-made-evie-younger-and-shorter.1543933/#post-156075490

Asmongold...the chud roach king himself, called out how young she looked instantly.

 
 
 
 
carl is definitely an asmongold subscriber, he's just like jeff who constantly frequents chud twitter accounts even though he could just block them. their lives are empty without chuds.

Meanwhile, Easy Allies gushed through the entire trailer without a single mention of the character's age.    

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[davepoobond]

stellar blade 2, cause, 2 boobies

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/shift-up-ceo-kim-hyung-tae-confirms-they-intentionally-made-evie-younger-and-shorter.1543933/page-5#post-156078769

Seeing the standing reaction and still saying you want her young is committing to something else entirely from the first game. Thought the combat switch up was neat on first impression but there's no excusing this.

No running from this one, Kyuuji. Entire asses have already been shown.

Someone's gonna be "gifted" the game...

[benji]

Meanwhile, Easy Allies gushed through the entire trailer without a single mention of the character's age.    

I mean, they're friends with Colin Moriarty, so stanning for pedophilia was just a matter of time. Jeff tried to warn them.

[Daffy Duck]

This might be incendiary, but what is the process for the consideration of having a game banned from discussion in Era? Like the wizard game, I think that Stellar Blade will not be able to stand as a matter of discussion if somehow users are okay with the obvious pedophilia tones.

As the adoptive father of a person who was sexually abused, this is a very sensible topic that makes my blood boil and I don't think that ignore features are enough when there is a very real problem that people prefer to ignore, just because they feel okay being horny while playing.

I know this might not be the correct place to ask, but this thread has very sensible heads and I refer to your suggestions.

Considering how the discussion has been going so far I can guarantee that the new SB game will not be banned here. Moderation is falling on the side of "you can talk about how problematic the game is, but you can't tell other users that they are pedos for wanting to play the game". This will fragment the discussion so that every thread will end up being people bringing up the problematic aspects and being ignored by the people wanting to play the game, and then folks getting banned for going over the line. Like what's happened in the last couple days

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-make-her-look-more-corpulent-more-stuffed-where-the-eyes-cant-escape.275780/page-536

Lol

[Taco Bell Tower]

Evie gets sexually abused?

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-make-her-look-more-corpulent-more-stuffed-where-the-eyes-cant-escape.275780/page-536

Checking on the last few pages:

As soon as I saw the SB2 thread I put it straight on my ignore list. After seeing the screenshots here I'm glad I did. Jesus fucking Christ.

Unsurprised that the SB2 thread will be a safe space for thinly-veiled misogyny. Just like the first game.

Putting it on ignore.

I wish I'd put the stellar blade thread on my ignore list. It's disheartening to see the amount of users hand waving and completely ignoring the elephant in the room to drop into the thread to say how amazing the combat or world looks. Who the fuck cares when you've got a main character that looks like that.
Not to mention the pathetic defence from certain posters.
It's beyond me how anyone could play that game whilst looking past that character design, you just can't ignore it.

I put it on ignore myself as well. Anything ShiftUp-related just becomes a gathering of thinly-veiled misogyny, groundless whataboutisms involving LaDS, bad faith arguments and dismissiveness from people explaining why the real problem is criticizing anything ShiftUp does because their one female friend likes it. It seems a younger protagonist being subjected to ass shots in the debut trailer won't change that.

Sony dropped it, at least. Treating the first one as a first party title was already a bad look for them, imo.

I have to ask if various ratings boards in different countries will ban the game for sexualizing minors

So many games get away with shit just as bad and without major pushback.
And Shiftup can totally age up the design a little so they and their fanbase can claim everything is fine and lash out even more against people complaining.

I've seen this song and dance way too many times.

Considering other games on the banned games list are there because of sexualized children, I'm hoping the new Stellar Blade will be added to it too.

There's nothing that would please shiftup more than to have some smaller countries ban the game, they can rally behind woke hive mind trying to take your game away while losing a small chunk of their target audience.

It's just a shit situation all around, there's no good outcome other than hoping it doesn't sell well.

Wasn't aware of the game showing and looking in that thread with the content and the discussion is just disgusting. My ignore list of members grew to crazy high numbers and there were some high profile members showing themselves up in there too. Really let's you know who we are sharing a board with.

I genuinely think anyone who posts shit like "Day 1, can't wait" in certain threads here deserves an instant ban. We're long past the point of the benefit of the doubt there. They know exactly what they're doing.

I feel like people need to learn about the growing issue of women seeking infantilized "beauty standards" going on in Asia at the moment and realize how completely fucked those are on so many levels.

It's a huge issue.

The people going "this looks sick!" completely sidestepped the very first issue that should have arisen from the games title card... Stellar Blade.

It is WELL KNOWN that Shit-Up is a chud appealing studio, and that the game is a sub-par knock off of Nier Automata (focus almost exclusively on hijacking the aesthetic and "theme")

That alone should raise eyebrows to literally anyone... but the child coded character who I had an IMMEDIATE revulsion too... I literally was like... "what the fuuuuuuuuuck" upon seeing her face.

But instead a ton of people are like "Oh SHIT! IT'S LIKE GODHAND!" and I just immediately sideye.

Not because "oh you like the child character" but more like... it's immediately obvious where you align politically and philosophically... especially since Shit-Up's controversies are so well and highly documented, on top of all the slop/grift bros glazing the hell out of them.

People were going "you ain't slick" but I think it just needs to be pointed out in plain terms... people use the plausible deniability and "civil" facade to basically dodge bans and bait others.

Gotta say I didn't expect to see a fully modeled vagina on the character. And it belongs to a very under aged looking character.

At this point they should just let them walk around nude

I wish Shift Up would go...well even more full mask off on social media than they already have so the pretenses could stop. Like CI Games tier.

The roach chud king arguing with his chat and social media because he thinks Evie looks like a kid and felt uncomfortable.

That's the bed you made. Lie in it. I wonder if all the chud-lites will change their opinion now that their overlord thinks she looks too young since they can't think for themselves, ever.

Seeing the ideological/political pedos who are primarily in it to control and harm marginalized people having to swallow disgust realign their rhetoric because they hitched their wagon to true blue pedos to further their goals is so pathetic.

I think about how often these people are fighting with their own chat and followers too. Do they know most normal communities are just like... People having decent time, trading jokes, pizza topping level arguments at best? What there's no way THATS your favorite season of [insert TV show]. Even big streamers are not going to weekly battle about where the pedo dial or the Nazi dial should be set

I've known since the 'Animal Crossing space buns' thread how 'selectively progressive' some of the posters can be and learned my lesson then.

SB2 was an instant ignore and frankly reading the responses here, I'm glad I did. Design legit has a visible vaginal outline/plug thing, and I don't have the energy to read how anyone can mental gymnastic their way to defending it.

And that's after her already having the disturbingly child like face. Made my husband slowly look at me and mention that she looked no older than our own kiddo. Needless to say, he was eeked out completely.

Yesterday when I watched SGF live the stream fucked up for me during the stellar blade reveal so I just decided to look up the direct upload on YT right now, and hoooly shit this game is like fly paper for reactionary chud channels, the first result I got in YT search wasn't even the trailer itself but somebody trying to grift about how "owned" blue haired women were by this trailer. If nothing else I got to add a lot of channels to my "do not recommend" list.

Yeah, I find there's alot of gamers who are shameless with their love of skimpy women in games, so there's no way I could shame them into realizing the SB2 character is extremely child-coded and it looks terrible to fellow fans of the genre. They'd go blue in the face claiming their GF, wife, sister, and cousin's best friend is OK with SB series and ShiftUp, and who are we to judge them here lol.

It's one of the main reasons why I've always distanced myself from the idea of "gamers" as a player base since it's all rotten to the core and it'd never change in my lifetime because of a lot of many factors tied to sexism, racism, and misogyny in the boyz clubs and related hobby spaces.

Normally when I watch these big trailer shows I'll usually give a head shake and an eye roll at to designs of the women characters, but this, THIS, made me genuinely uncomfortable. Like, "I should turn this off" uncomfortable, why is there a child on my screen with ass giggle physics?! And the fact people are defending it... I might need a new hobby.

And that's on top of the environments just looking like Ai generated nonsense when you look at them for even a few seconds (which wouldn't be a surprise considering their comments about Ai).

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8skfrcL/

It takes guts to make this video knowing what the response will be right now. I'm glad there are brave people like her doing it!

 

I imagine the reason Shift Up went fully independent is because they got called out for this shit and wanted to double down. They actually made the main character look like a child and have her fucking vagina on display. These developers should be on a list.

Even without the major pedo vibes...why the fuck was this being shown in a major videogames showcase and why are so many people acting like it's acceptable????

These people being rewarded for their brazen objectification of women and girls is taking this industry and culture to a new low.

They want everyone to know. Incel chuds find it offensive to portray women with realistic features because it breaks their immersion. Hence why they like hairless children with visible cameltoe / Stellar Blade.

They see videogames and anime as their "escapism" from the real world of having to deal with women's natural bodies and their agency & ability to think independently. So images of game characters they deem "too realistic" are actually offensive to them and they want us all to know we are making them feel bad.

I'm still amazed that there is no real outrage and pus back to a mainstream gaming show, promoting and showing that trailer..... Honestly it's depressing that there is nothing. That any of the big Publishers and devs don't care to be on the same show as this pedo bait is just depressing. This is why I would never consider me a gamer even if it is an important hobby to me.

Acceptance of the first game pandering to perverts was bad enough in these circles, and now we have to watch it taken to its logical conclusion in acceptance of the sequel pandering to pedophiles. People calling it out and getting banned for it says it all.

I'm still amazed that there is no real outrage and pus back to a mainstream gaming show, promoting and showing that trailer.....

Not really, like this is the world of incels and chuds, we're just existing here, esp in gaming hobbies. Nothing is going to change much from big companies since they are led by men who don't care at all as long as it sells and makes money.

Yeah, Evie should be a conversation starter cause woo boy the games industry is full of pedo adjacent shit in successful games

On a similar note.

Am I finally allowed to say Claire Obscure giving Maelle, a 16 year old teen, an ass tight swimsuit is weird?

Not saying it's on the level of Stellar Blade, but a lot of people wrote it off as some innocuous thing trying to be "cute". I really like the game, but that gave me some ick.

I've been tooting that drum for ages and I can already tell you no, it's all fine if it's Claire Obscure.

It's almost refreshing to just hear them say "naah we just wanted her to be really, really young and pretty much nude, not much else" instead.

And by refreshing I mean I might just look for another hobby.

I'm not surprised that Kim Hyung-Tae, CEO of ShiftUp, is confirming that Stellar Blade made their latest protag younger with no intent to stop sexualizing her, but we're in an environment where he can feel comfortable saying this kind of crap without risk.

I'd like for this game to be the exception to the norm where gamers either reduce this shit to "being allowed to like sexy things" or "who cares, as long as the game is fun" but I am very pessmistic about there being any sort of change. Persona 5 is considered a masterpiece after all and it is impossible to discuss Stellar Blade without people going of their way to attack critics or try to prop up Bayonetta and Nier Automata as if they're comparable.

Stellar Blade 2 is an evil videogame

Agreed. Games like Persona 5 haves no excuse. And not having the weird shit would literally make no difference in the sales or marketing of a game like that. It's just tainting perfectly that could be fine for everyone. SB is a game FOR pedos. Period. And they hope everyone else will just accept it. Like what does Bayonetta have to do with a sexualizing a minor. Yes I like bayo and nier. Yes they have deep problems. What is THIS. That's not the same conversation and they know it. They just want to muddle the actual issue

I see era is continuing the trend of punishing the people calling this shit out harsher than the ones low key caping for games made by misogynists because "the game looks good tho"

I see people on ERA, even Suzi The Sphere Hunter's review saying they liked EVE's personality and it's a take that always leaves me baffled.

On brand for Suzi. She just cleans up her act for publisher access.

Oh really?
Its been a while since I watched the occasion video. I should unsub?

I mean, I think she has a real knack for laundering what happens to align with right wing talking points for "progressive" audiences to get her audience to end up justifying or regurgitate the same takes but she maintains enough plausible deniability for me to say YMMV, personally not a fan though.

I feel like Suzi is just one of those people who's so deeply compromised by her fandom that she's willing to let things slide for companies/franchises she deeply cares about, and unfortunately there's been a lot of moments lately where companies and franchises she's invested in have been putting their feet in their mouths, so it's been pretty common to see her come out with really dumb and disappointing takes. I basically just kinda stopped watching her stuff over the past 2-3 years because of that.

Postulating "certain x countries are more accepting in their (pop) culture of pedo (because it's not uncommon in their media and entertainment, as in it's not illegal at all) or borderline pedo representations" will get me banned by mods (because of rules on generalizing entire countries, cultures) what is the correct way to express this so that I may convey my disgust for it?

The us has a pedo president, what more accepting of that can you get. The way to not get banned for being xenophobic is to see it as a general global problem

This might be incendiary, but what is the process for the consideration of having a game banned from discussion in Era? Like the wizard game, I think that Stellar Blade will not be able to stand as a matter of discussion if somehow users are okay with the obvious pedophilia tones.

As the adoptive father of a person who was sexually abused, this is a very sensible topic that makes my blood boil and I don't think that ignore features are enough when there is a very real problem that people prefer to ignore, just because they feel okay being horny while playing.

I know this might not be the correct place to ask, but this thread has very sensible heads and I refer to your suggestions.

Persona 5 is celebrated here and that game has some egregiously bad stuff with high schoolers including SA and sexualition of said characters.

So I wouldn't count on something being banned on those grounds.

Dont forget every mihoyo game that has little girl characters and sexualized teens.

Also:

I am glad Castlevania is leaning into the fact that vampire games are for the bisexuals. We will keep you afloat if nothing else does.

[benji]

Never, a prominent Hamas-ERA member, is down for the count:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-i-left-the-white-left-by-fd-signifier-focused-on-graham-platner.1536727/page-3#post-155818840

User banned (permanent): justifying blatant bigotry over a series of posts

He's almost like a parody:


I found some schizo ranting about Era:

Turns out they're a big fan:

The actual reason I searched Bluesky was to see if anyone was talking about Era's staff siding with pedophiles, unfortunately you know Bluesky is a well-known right-wing place when all you find is this kind of stuff:



And this in the replies of dark1x:


Also some other guy who thinks the Era staff are some of the best around:

[Boredfrom]

I am glad Castlevania is leaning into the fact that vampire games are for the bisexuals. We will keep you afloat if nothing else does.

Someone in that thread was already bitching about not escaping “sexy vampires”. 

[benji]

As much as I love them thinking the staff are chud-lovers, I think my favorite posts in the burka thread by far are the ones going:
"Y'all accepted the first Stellar Blade for its high femme ideals and ample boobs and big butts and now we see that acceptance taken to its LOGICAL CONCLUSION: pedophilia."

Also the guy talking about how every major game is full of pedo-adjacent stuff that's "worse" and nobody in the industry seems to care. Like, what in the fuck are you even talking about? Nobody in the thread seems remotely curious as to this even as they respond to him regarding other stuff. 

[Boredfrom]

Persona 5 is celebrated here

Where it isn’t? Even the Persona haters seem to not stop talking about Persona being problematic while jerking on it. 

There is a reason why Microsoft paid for Persona 6 being in GamePass.

[benji]

"Ah, looking at risque pictures of Sydney Sweeney again, are you? Careful! That's not just a pipeline to Nazism but also pedophilia!"

[BIONIC]

Asha, if you can get a small team to work on 60fps patches for Crash Trilogy, Crash Team Racing and Spyro Trilogy, I will buy the green Xbox.

I guess Jeff supporting the genocide company tracks with him supporting the Nazi chud CSAM generator website

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Also literal manchild Jesus fucking Christ

[HaughtyFrank]

B-dubs and his brigade of black-American chauvinistic bigots

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

Why Resetera of all places to spread Anti-Zionist awareness? 

Go join your local chapter of PSL or DSA. I know it requires actually going offline but it will be worth it.

[Rendle]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/third-kidney-stone-dying-inside-rn.1538908/

3d kidney stone! 

I'm always amazed at how bad ree's eating habits are, but 3 kidney stones? What a fucking moron

If you've had 1, the likelihood you'll have another within 10 years is 50%. I stopped drinking sugary drinks and still had a second one 3 years later. I was already looking into donating a kidney before I had my first stone, which apparently isn't a dealbreaker, but probably means i'd have to be in phenomenal physical health otherwise for me to be a viable donor, which i'm not. Donating a kidney reduces your life expectancy by like 3-5 years, but kidney donors tend to live longer on average than non-donors, because they're so selective.

You are really going to donate a kidney?  I thought I couldn't because I drink too much but I've reduced in the past 10 years.  I would like to give a person a longer life at the cost of 4 of my years.

It was definitely the plan but I doubt my metrics are good enough, i'm pretty skinny so they'd probably want me to gain a few kilos first, I suppose I should stop being lazy and ask

[benji]

Why Resetera of all places to spread Anti-Zionist awareness? 

Go join your local chapter of PSL or DSA. I know it requires actually going offline but it will be worth it.

1. This is ableist as fuck, some of us have headmates who identify as having self-diagnosed social anxiety.
2. The front lines are everywhere.

[Uncle]

stellar blade 2, cause, 2 boobies

big if true

[Besticus Maximus]

Known chud attracting website Resetera has more chuds than any other website. Don't believe me? Search for something from like, 2023, open the thread and see how many chuds are banned for all the vilest isms you can imagine.