Kulturkampf

[benji]

[Besticus Maximus]

The larping about Mao is how you know he's actually thick as fuck and a total wrongun

[HaughtyFrank]

Fun read about plagiarism and highly questionable claims (says he ran 30 Marathons in 35 days and 300 miles. "As long as you have the willpower it supersedes skill")

Though I also wonder if AI will make future plagiarism really difficult to discover. Here you can see him being pretty lazy and copying words verbatim but with AI it's very easy to ask it to rewrite the whole thing

[Ethan]

TIL there's actually almost 4 hours of "highlights" from the infamous 2019 national DSA convention, and every minute is just as good as the viral "sensory overload" video.





It makes for wonderful background noise while working.
Too bad they've done away with the live streaming since then.

[Alpacx]

[HaughtyFrank]

^ apparently they retracted that chart a couple of days after they published it but I don't think there was any further statement on why they'd publish it in the first place. Like that's not just an oppsie, you had people convinced this was true. It's not like they accidentally publish charts denying climate change

[Uncle]

Family Structure: The nuclear family: father, mother, 2.3 children is the ideal social unit

 

this isn't a belief of whiteness, 2.1 to 2.3 children is the ideal replacement rate in any society that doesn't want to either grow out of control or die off

if you're having a lot more than that, that's a hallmark of a society that expects many of them to die off young and uses them for labor, it's...kind of ideal to be able to live in a society that doesn't require popping out 6 babies to work the fields just to survive? I'm sure every non-white society would love to be able to justify and live with 2.3 children as well?

and aren't there numerous studies showing that having a father and a mother is best for a child's development? wake me up when we have dozens of peer-reviewed studies saying "actually a single mom is better for everyone"

Aesthetic: steak and potatoes; "bland is best"

first: why is this not just as bad as going on about friend chicken and watermelon hurr hurr (who doesn't like fried chicken? who doesn't like steak?)

second: literally no one worth listening to has ever said "bland is best," if your steak and potatoes are bland enough to be called "bland" then you've done something horribly wrong

proper seasoning? grilled onions and mushrooms? garlic butter? A1 sauce?

[Uncle]

I also like "must always 'do something' about a situation"

all those non-whites, who instead shrug and do nothing and let problems get worse and worse, we must listen and learn

[HaughtyFrank]

[benji]

Though I also wonder if AI will make future plagiarism really difficult to discover. Here you can see him being pretty lazy and copying words verbatim but with AI it's very easy to ask it to rewrite the whole thing

It probably won't. Plagiarists are rarely smart people trying to pull a fast one. They almost always do clearly stupid things like copy things verbatim, entire paragraphs. With AI you run the risk of wrecking the citations, that only work because you copied verbatim. AI hallucinates citations because it doesn't know how they work, it understands them through reverse engineering when they're actually totally arbitrary and established by some academic organization by fiat. And their usage is controlled by convention in the field. AI will get better at this, but it will suffer the same issue as bad academics, not knowing what not to cite. Especially because its source of data is everything not just academic publications.

But the real reason is that AI will catch plagiarism faster than plagiarists will be able to use it to innovate. The existing programs that catch plagiarism are incredibly simple and they've still come a long way. It's been a decade since an undergrad would have been able to use anything verbatim. (Graduate work is rarely run through these, it's assumed you wouldn't do it if you've made it that far.) Attaching a modern LLM to them will all but eliminate it because the LLM is able to understand the sentences. Since it's all probabilistic, you just have to tell your LLM to rewrite it and check it against the version you have because there's good odds that the AI will rewrite it the same way unless given other instructions.

The reason so much gets through is because nobody actually cares it's too much work to check everything. The people who actually do hunt this stuff will absolutely check if an LLM says "this seems fishy" and gives them hints at what to look at.

Where AI won't help and the main issue in academia is the China/India paper mills, China especially has state support for these. Those are already gibberish. They get caught because they don't know how to do the actual methods and so their results tables look insane to the rest of the world. There's no actual data so the AI's couldn't check them.  

Too bad they've done away with the live streaming since then.

Yeah, because fascists like you take it out of context.

[Besticus Maximus]

Though I also wonder if AI will make future plagiarism really difficult to discover. Here you can see him being pretty lazy and copying words verbatim but with AI it's very easy to ask it to rewrite the whole thing

It probably won't. Plagiarists are rarely smart people trying to pull a fast one. They almost always do clearly stupid things like copy things verbatim, entire paragraphs. With AI you run the risk of wrecking the citations, that only work because you copied verbatim. AI hallucinates citations because it doesn't know how they work, it understands them through reverse engineering when they're actually totally arbitrary and established by some academic organization by fiat. And their usage is controlled by convention in the field. AI will get better at this, but it will suffer the same issue as bad academics, not knowing what not to cite. Especially because its source of data is everything not just academic publications.

But the real reason is that AI will catch plagiarism faster than plagiarists will be able to use it to innovate. The existing programs that catch plagiarism are incredibly simple and they've still come a long way. It's been a decade since an undergrad would have been able to use anything verbatim. (Graduate work is rarely run through these, it's assumed you wouldn't do it if you've made it that far.) Attaching a modern LLM to them will all but eliminate it because the LLM is able to understand the sentences. Since it's all probabilistic, you just have to tell your LLM to rewrite it and check it against the version you have because there's good odds that the AI will rewrite it the same way unless given other instructions.

The reason so much gets through is because nobody actually cares it's too much work to check everything. The people who actually do hunt this stuff will absolutely check if an LLM says "this seems fishy" and gives them hints at what to look at.

Where AI won't help and the main issue in academia is the China/India paper mills, China especially has state support for these. Those are already gibberish. They get caught because they don't know how to do the actual methods and so their results tables look insane to the rest of the world. There's no actual data so the AI's couldn't check them.  

Too bad they've done away with the live streaming since then.

Yeah, because fascists like you take it out of context.

Hark at professor chuckles over here 

[HaughtyFrank]

[Alpacx]

The replies 

[HaughtyFrank]

[Alpacx]

There's been conservatives in academia discourse on Elon's bird site...
https://x.com/Halalcoholism/status/2080123021214498956
   
   

Meanwhile, in WNBA:

[benji]

"I'm very much in the middle. I agree with things on both sides" 

Welp, another Nazi going mask off.

[benji]

The ancient prejudices from the village idiots silenced another brave voice: