Kulturkampf

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

[HaughtyFrank]

[benji]

This guy is great:

When I read the letter, I felt the gut-punch of a comrade turning their weapon on the wrong enemy.
This is not solidarity. This is moral bankruptcy dressed in academic robes, is well-meaning, liberal-humanist drivel. And it hurts precisely because it comes from you.

1. The Genocide Is the Elephant in the Room – And You Ignored It.  Israhell is currently committing a documented, legally-defined genocide against the Palestinian people. Over 40,000 martyrs – mostly women and children. Hospitals flattened. Universities turned to dust....

2. A deliberate starvation campaign and you – in your infinite moral symmetry – chose to place the Islamic Republic of Iran on the same political plane as this genocidal machine?

3. You wrote: "You face the aggression and violence of the very imperialist and Zionist forces the Islamic Republic purports to stand against"  You reduce genocide to a "blade of the scissors" – equal to a theocratic regime's local brutality

4. The Iranian state, for all its reactionary horrors, is a peripheral nation fighting for survival against the core of global white supremacy. Israel is the settler-colonial spearhead of that core, actively exterminating a captive population with US tax dollars...

5. To equate the two is to tell a drowning man that his gasping is just as annoying as the person holding him underwater.

6.  You speak of prisoners caught between "two blades." The *real* Manichaeism is between the colonizer (US/Israel) and the colonized (the entire Arab and Muslim world, including Iran)...

7. The Islamic Republic is a contaminated, bourgeois-nationalist expression of the colonized's struggle. It is ugly. It is violent. It crushes leftists. But it is structurally opposed to the imperial project that seeks to balkanize the entire Middle East for Israeli expansion.

8. When you flatten this contradiction, you give the Zionist project the clean moral alibi it craves. Netanyahu and Blinken will read your letter and say: "Even the anti-imperialists admit Iran is as bad as us."

9. Your letter demands the Islamic Republic stop executions – correctly. It demands the US and Israel stop their wars – meekly, in the passive voice, in the final paragraph, as an afterthought.

10. You spent 70% of your text detailing Iranian state repression. You spent 10% on the global imperial carceral system. And you spent a down sentence on the actual genocide unfolding in real time.

11.  The US and Israel are not "a blade." They are the entire scissor factory. They are the financiers, the intelligence providers, the diplomatic shields, and the weapons dealers for a state that has killed more journalists, medics, and children than any other conflict.

12. US/NATO/Israeli imperialism is the global organizer of white supremacist capitalist patriarchy. It seeks total domination of the Global South's resources and populations.

13. The Islamic Republic, while reactionary and oppressive, is a national bourgeois state that exists in resistance.

14. The liberations of the prisoners in Iran is materially tied to the defeat of US sanctions. Sanctions are a slow-acting genocide that kill more Iranians than the prisons ever will.

15. Israhell's genocide is not a "blade" in a bilateral struggle. It is the template for future imperial wars. If Israel wins, every Black, Indigenous, and Arab body on this planet is less safe. You must condemn it, unequivocally, unconditionally, in the first line – not the last

16. Retract this letter. All of you. Write a new one that begins with: "We condemn the ongoing genocide in Gaza and the West Bank, perpetrated by the settler-colonial state of Israel with full US complicity...

We declare this the primary emergency of our time. We stand with Iranian political prisoners as we stand against the US-Israeli axis that fuels the repression of the entire region. We demand an immediate end to all sanctions, all military aid to Israel, and all diplomatic cover

18. Anything less is complicity and treason to the colonized. I am not asking for perfection. I am asking for your revolutionary soul. You need to place the US-Israeli axis as the global headquarters of anti-human violence

[Alpacx]

Least effective starvation campaign in history. Why are Jews so bad at starving and genociding people?

Meanwhile,

   

[Uncle]

I actually ran into someone claiming that the other day about rowling, and was like "wait what" and I had searched it and got a sense that it was bullshit

as expected, it's that she wanted to correct the record surrounding a minor detail about the holocaust, and those disputing that detail characterized it as "denial," which reasonable people would assume is rhetoric that means "the holocaust never happened" rather than "you're wrong that they targeted trans people first and here's evidence supporting that claim"

   

[Besticus Maximus]

One thing that stupid people really struggle with is the timeline of ideas. Like it makes absolute sense that ideas develop and new paradigms emerge as technology advances and human behaviour changes. But the absolute insistence of some primordial spirit in the human body makes it hard for people to understand when ideas start. So that's why you get things like imperialist colonialism in the columbian exchange, or capitalism being a driver for imperialism, when these ideas are self evidently and demonstrably anachronistic. So it is with Gender. Did you know that the idea of Gender is from the mid 20th century? It literally didn't exist until then, because gender is a social construct.

However, like the mormons, the lie is sustained by claiming a spurious history. Which is why they try and claim that the nazis started the holocaust with trans people, when the guys organising the holocaust were made up of cross dressing homosexuals. I can say that knowing that not all gay people are nazis, but also, I am cognisant of the fact that actually many of the worst and most brutal genociders in history were queer and being queer appears, over the long run, to have absolutely fuck all consequence on left v right opinions.

[HaughtyFrank]

Cambridge on a roll

[Nintex]

AOC is crashing out on main

[benji]

One thing that stupid people really struggle with is the timeline of ideas. Like it makes absolute sense that ideas develop and new paradigms emerge as technology advances and human behaviour changes. But the absolute insistence of some primordial spirit in the human body makes it hard for people to understand when ideas start. So that's why you get things like imperialist colonialism in the columbian exchange, or capitalism being a driver for imperialism, when these ideas are self evidently and demonstrably anachronistic. So it is with Gender. Did you know that the idea of Gender is from the mid 20th century? It literally didn't exist until then, because gender is a social construct.

However, like the mormons, the lie is sustained by claiming a spurious history. Which is why they try and claim that the nazis started the holocaust with trans people, when the guys organising the holocaust were made up of cross dressing homosexuals. I can say that knowing that not all gay people are nazis, but also, I am cognisant of the fact that actually many of the worst and most brutal genociders in history were queer and being queer appears, over the long run, to have absolutely fuck all consequence on left v right opinions.

It's also based on this fiction that the Nazis kept quiet about what they wanted to do. That the Nazis were just these regular ol modern conservatives (since regular ol modern conservatives are Nazis) talking about lowering taxes and being harsh to criminals rather than running around yelling about the need to end the Republic and exterminate the Jews while engaging in literal street battles with the police/communists/etc. They are always telling us how Nazis and racists try to "hide their powerlevel" when anyone who has ever experienced either knows this never happens and they will proudly boast about it to anyone who will listen.

If the Nazis really targeted trans people first there'd be a whole bunch of diatribes about it. The reality is boring and makes the narcissists feel not special enough since it doesn't make them the center of events half a century before they were born, the Nazis organized a day for the people to "spontaneously" to burn "corrupt" books and some dudes in Berlin on the day looking for books to burn went "hey, the sex research place!"

edit: They also talk about this having set back trans research for "decades" when the guy escaped and kept doing research. And he was world famous for his existing research, which had been published all over. They view it as this big building of top secret information that the Nazis knew they had to eliminate rather than an actual research institute doing research institute things.

[Alpacx]

AOC is crashing out on main

Every time I see an Asmongold video I feel so fucking gross. I'm surprised that man doesn't have cockroaches crawling across his face.

[Uncle]

One thing that stupid people really struggle with is the timeline of ideas. Like it makes absolute sense that ideas develop and new paradigms emerge as technology advances and human behaviour changes. But the absolute insistence of some primordial spirit in the human body makes it hard for people to understand when ideas start. So that's why you get things like imperialist colonialism in the columbian exchange, or capitalism being a driver for imperialism, when these ideas are self evidently and demonstrably anachronistic. So it is with Gender. Did you know that the idea of Gender is from the mid 20th century? It literally didn't exist until then, because gender is a social construct.

However, like the mormons, the lie is sustained by claiming a spurious history. Which is why they try and claim that the nazis started the holocaust with trans people, when the guys organising the holocaust were made up of cross dressing homosexuals. I can say that knowing that not all gay people are nazis, but also, I am cognisant of the fact that actually many of the worst and most brutal genociders in history were queer and being queer appears, over the long run, to have absolutely fuck all consequence on left v right opinions.

It's also based on this fiction that the Nazis kept quiet about what they wanted to do. That the Nazis were just these regular ol modern conservatives (since regular ol modern conservatives are Nazis) talking about lowering taxes and being harsh to criminals rather than running around yelling about the need to end the Republic and exterminate the Jews while engaging in literal street battles with the police/communists/etc. They are always telling us how Nazis and racists try to "hide their powerlevel" when anyone who has ever experienced either knows this never happens and they will proudly boast about it to anyone who will listen.

If the Nazis really targeted trans people first there'd be a whole bunch of diatribes about it. The reality is boring and makes the narcissists feel not special enough since it doesn't make them the center of events half a century before they were born, the Nazis organized a day for the people to "spontaneously" to burn "corrupt" books and some dudes in Berlin on the day looking for books to burn went "hey, the sex research place!"

edit: They also talk about this having set back trans research for "decades" when the guy escaped and kept doing research. And he was world famous for his existing research, which had been published all over. They view it as this big building of top secret information that the Nazis knew they had to eliminate rather than an actual research institute doing research institute things.

wow never knew I shared a forum with a holocaust denier

[Besticus Maximus]

One thing that stupid people really struggle with is the timeline of ideas. Like it makes absolute sense that ideas develop and new paradigms emerge as technology advances and human behaviour changes. But the absolute insistence of some primordial spirit in the human body makes it hard for people to understand when ideas start. So that's why you get things like imperialist colonialism in the columbian exchange, or capitalism being a driver for imperialism, when these ideas are self evidently and demonstrably anachronistic. So it is with Gender. Did you know that the idea of Gender is from the mid 20th century? It literally didn't exist until then, because gender is a social construct.

However, like the mormons, the lie is sustained by claiming a spurious history. Which is why they try and claim that the nazis started the holocaust with trans people, when the guys organising the holocaust were made up of cross dressing homosexuals. I can say that knowing that not all gay people are nazis, but also, I am cognisant of the fact that actually many of the worst and most brutal genociders in history were queer and being queer appears, over the long run, to have absolutely fuck all consequence on left v right opinions.

It's also based on this fiction that the Nazis kept quiet about what they wanted to do. That the Nazis were just these regular ol modern conservatives (since regular ol modern conservatives are Nazis) talking about lowering taxes and being harsh to criminals rather than running around yelling about the need to end the Republic and exterminate the Jews while engaging in literal street battles with the police/communists/etc. They are always telling us how Nazis and racists try to "hide their powerlevel" when anyone who has ever experienced either knows this never happens and they will proudly boast about it to anyone who will listen.

If the Nazis really targeted trans people first there'd be a whole bunch of diatribes about it. The reality is boring and makes the narcissists feel not special enough since it doesn't make them the center of events half a century before they were born, the Nazis organized a day for the people to "spontaneously" to burn "corrupt" books and some dudes in Berlin on the day looking for books to burn went "hey, the sex research place!"

edit: They also talk about this having set back trans research for "decades" when the guy escaped and kept doing research. And he was world famous for his existing research, which had been published all over. They view it as this big building of top secret information that the Nazis knew they had to eliminate rather than an actual research institute doing research institute things.

coming back to the cult/religion thing again really. Founding myth, siege mentality like Mourinho at Chelsea

[Rendle]

AOC is crashing out on main

Every time I see an Asmongold video I feel so fucking gross. I'm surprised that man doesn't have cockroaches crawling across his face.

They should do a swap. AOC should become a twitch streamer, Dolly Parton should become a senator, and Asmongold should become deceased.

[HaughtyFrank]

@Grok is this true?

Like seriously, this is crazy, right?

[benji]

 Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences.

[Alpacx]

   
Accountability never ends

[benji]

This Alonso guy

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

[benji]

Accountability never ends

[benji]

This guy man:

[Nintex]

wat

[DavidCroquet]

Wasn't it Arday himself claiming to be retarded and illiterate?

[benji]

Peter tipped me off to some other truthers by retweeting:

[benji]

Peter says he originally was of the mind that the story was overblown but now he sees the greater conspiracy at work:

[benji]

It's remarkable how many people are proud to state that they will refuse to believe something is true based on who someone told them the messenger is.

[HaughtyFrank]

Vanity Fair quickly cut her off

[Uncle]

I actually ran into someone claiming that the other day about rowling, and was like "wait what" and I had searched it and got a sense that it was bullshit

as expected, it's that she wanted to correct the record surrounding a minor detail about the holocaust, and those disputing that detail characterized it as "denial," which reasonable people would assume is rhetoric that means "the holocaust never happened" rather than "you're wrong that they targeted trans people first and here's evidence supporting that claim"

a day later, I encounter this yet again:

   

   

more on all that: https://forward.com/culture/603271/jk-rowling-holocaust-streisand-effect/

J.K. Rowling didn’t want to be called a Holocaust denier. That backfired.

The author’s attempts to quiet her critics ended up making the accusations far more viral.

[...]

But in the U.S., free speech is heavily protected; claimants must prove not only that a defamatory statement is false, but also that it was disseminated with “malicious intent.”

[...]

This allows X users in the U.S. to state their opinions on Rowling’s views openly. And Rowling’s attempts to silence her critics have only encouraged them, and brought accusations of Holocaust denial to a much wider audience.

Streisand actually lost her case against the photographers; they left their photograph up. But even though Rowling got Brown to remove her tweet, she still lost. Now even more people are accusing her of Holocaust denial.

   

[Potato]

No person of any substance thinks Joanne is a holocaust denier nor that trans people were the real victims of the Nazis.

[Alpacx]

[Uncle]

fact check on "love"

[HaughtyFrank]

Even Dolly isn't safe

However we also had this unlikely agreement