Journal of Other Forum Analysis

[Besticus Maximus]

They're also banning people asking for bans, but boycotting a jew might get across the line if Nepenthe has anything to say about it

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-last-of-us-2-ps5-sku-spotted-on-psn-store-backend.786096/page-2#post-115041381
Person with a Elie avatar jokingly posts this

Who plays this?

Triggered Sony Ponies

PS5 and PC owners who want to experience this amazing game that'll be updated for those platforms.

You're in a thread where dozens of folks have voiced their excitement over playing this. I'm not sure where your confusion comes from

I bought a copy for my PS4, played like twenty minutes and realised I could wait for the PC version.

So I'm gonna be really quite happy with it. Provided it runs alright.

Person with Elie avatar says it's a joke but Sony Pony vivftp can't take a joke

Then it would seem to be a reference I am unfamiliar with.

Very hard to tell a joke from a serious post in a situation like that

Elie avatar user responds to this idiot

"Who plays this" says a person with a Ellie Profile from TLOU2.


Let's not make this something serious.

vivftp still can't admit he knew it was a joke

Lol, not serious. I'm laying in bed with my screen brightness down so your avatar pic looks nearly solid black right now 😋

[malfoyking]

https://www.installbaseforum.com/forums/threads/hogwarts-legacy-is-the-best-selling-new-release-of-2023-as-of-september-30.2131/post-209364


Got a 3 months ban for this. Oh well. fuck em.

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.installbaseforum.com/forums/threads/hogwarts-legacy-is-the-best-selling-new-release-of-2023-as-of-september-30.2131/post-209364


Got a 3 months ban for this. Oh well. fuck em.

(3 months ban) Dog whistling, trolling and more... as the very 1st post on the forum

Puts Ree to shame 

[Besticus Maximus]

Didn't installbase happen because the trans mafia came for the sales thread OP?

The fact that proudly stating you hate JK Rowling and all she stands for has become an entry ticket to talking about videogames is just so fucking mental

[Uncle]

Didn't installbase happen because the trans mafia came for the sales thread OP?

nah, Chris1964 got banned for a day over random nothing arguments and everyone got mad because he's always really nice and reasonable and just obsessively interested in sales, not deserving of a ban

this is one person's account of what happened

https://twitter.com/i/events/1444796077677465605

[Puffy Fucking Baby]

It's not explicit (because execs would never) but she's absolutely trans coded:
Gwen has a large trans flag on her bedroom wall with 'protect trans kids' written on it (how many cis people do you know with one?)
The artists drew a trans flag on her fathers jacket and made his commendations the trans colours, tying both him and his daughter to the concept of trans pride
When she details how she's had to live hiding half of who she is from everyone the colours in the scene immediately snap from orange and peach tones to blue, white and pink, including banding on her hair (1, 2)
Her relationship with her father can easily be interpreted as an allegory to the trans experience of having a parent discover your identity and reject you, forcing you to find community and safety with others like you
She gushes when Jessica Drew uses sex instead of gender to refer to her unborn child ("we don't know the sex yet")
She played with the same toys Miles did as a kid
Hobie questions whether she's wearing his shoes/chucks, which mirrors Miles asking Ganke if he's wearing his Jordans earlier in the film (to which he responds "it's not my fault we're the same size").

https://www.resetera.com/threads/favorite-trans-characters-in-media-trans-awareness-week.786111/page-2#post-115046724

Kyuujis list of why spider Gwen is definitely trans 😂

ok but gwen is trans from what to what?

mtf? so then she's voiced by a ciswoman and therefore the portrayal is intensely wrongheaded and offensive

ftm? so then identifying as male, somehow she puts up with everyone saying "she/her" and maintains a female name? is this encouraging trans people to stay closeted?

i think autists or at least a certain type of autist like Kyuuji simply can't relate to or like anyone who isnt just like them. Sad!

[Taco Bell Tower]

Didn't installbase happen because the trans mafia came for the sales thread OP?

nah, Chris1964 got banned for a day over random nothing arguments and everyone got mad because he's always really nice and reasonable and just obsessively interested in sales, not deserving of a ban

this is one person's account of what happened

https://twitter.com/i/events/1444796077677465605

Man, that Twitter brought back memories like this
https://www.resetera.com/threads/terf-jk-rowling-continues-to-be-a-hateful-bigot.221245/page-50#post-87748050
That poor cat

[books]

Can't believe that's not in Ree's hall of fame threads. What a ride.

[ClothedMac]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/naughty-dog-creative-head-neil-druckmann-to-receive-nyvgcc-legend-award.785985/post-115026840

Both-sides-ism is often roasted because it's a rhetorical device often pushed by far right personalities and centrists when they want to muddy waters of discussion.

It's not a belief that there are there is no such thing as moral complexity or that there is a clear, binaristic right and wrong side to any conflict. It's often the case that things are complex, made no easier by that often propoganda works to ensure that uncomfortable truths are left out of the public eye.

The difference between a good and bad use of pointing out faults in both sides is dependent on what your using it for. If you're trying to ensure things reach valid moral resolution such that no one's humanity is left out, it's good, because that's ensuring that no grievance is left un-reconciled. If you're using it as an effort to rally support for an unconscionable action, like genocide, it's bad. And to be clear, that's an overly simplistic description in itself, but it gets to the point that both-sides-ism is about what your goal is when you use it.

This guy defended Both-Sides and wasn't banned.  Apparently there are times when "both sides" can be used for good.  I assume that means when approved people do it.

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/disneys-wish-review-thread.786243/post-115059075

Still gonna see it because it may be the only time a black lead doesn't get turned into something else in an animated film

Spider-man is right there

[Nintex]

https://www.installbaseforum.com/forums/threads/hogwarts-legacy-is-the-best-selling-new-release-of-2023-as-of-september-30.2131/post-209364


Got a 3 months ban for this. Oh well. fuck em.

On the flip side someone deciding to buy the game and enjoy the game does not inherently mean they support JK Rowling's views, people interact with problematic media all the time and it's a personal decision where you draw the line in what you choose to support or not.

Ultimately that isn't unique to this game, or this creator. There are a lot of fans of Dragon Quest on this board, whose money will have at some point helped Koichi Sugiyama fund ads denying Japanese war crimes.

The bottom line is we cannot simply ignore the existence of the game, but if you want to use it as a stepping stone to wage a war against people who fundamentally just didn't want to support someone who has said horrible things then you're not welcome here.

With that said lets get the thread back on track, if you have any feedback please put it in the community feedback thread.

Why the hell did all these gamers turn into yikes oof cucks over the writer of Harry Potter and some Japanese ads nobody ever saw.

Dog whistling, trolling and more... as the very 1st post on the forum

"Dog whistling" .... Fucking christ on a stick.

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/naughty-dog-creative-head-neil-druckmann-to-receive-nyvgcc-legend-award.785985/post-115026840

Both-sides-ism is often roasted because it's a rhetorical device often pushed by far right personalities and centrists when they want to muddy waters of discussion.

It's not a belief that there are there is no such thing as moral complexity or that there is a clear, binaristic right and wrong side to any conflict. It's often the case that things are complex, made no easier by that often propoganda works to ensure that uncomfortable truths are left out of the public eye.

The difference between a good and bad use of pointing out faults in both sides is dependent on what your using it for. If you're trying to ensure things reach valid moral resolution such that no one's humanity is left out, it's good, because that's ensuring that no grievance is left un-reconciled. If you're using it as an effort to rally support for an unconscionable action, like genocide, it's bad. And to be clear, that's an overly simplistic description in itself, but it gets to the point that both-sides-ism is about what your goal is when you use it.

This guy defended Both-Sides and wasn't banned.  Apparently there are times when "both sides" can be used for good.  I assume that means when approved people do it.

That's basically his own argument. "Both sides" is bad when the evil centrists use it but when I use it it's actually nuanced and true.

[Averon]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/favorite-trans-characters-in-media-trans-awareness-week.786111/page-4#post-115062150

So all that iconography, subtext and allegory, the many trans people who found emotional connection to her story and accepted her, don't mean anything unless she announces in the next movie " I was assigned male at birth."

Yes? All your headcannon and spurious reasoning don't amount to much, especially when there's no official confirmation and the character has historically only been a cis woman since inception years ago.

[HaughtyFrank]

Really liked Claire from Cyberpunk, could have easily been one of the main characters, or at least have a more involved questline.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/favorite-trans-characters-in-media-trans-awareness-week.786111/post-115062384

[malfoyking]

https://www.installbaseforum.com/forums/threads/hogwarts-legacy-is-the-best-selling-new-release-of-2023-as-of-september-30.2131/post-209364


Got a 3 months ban for this. Oh well. fuck em.

Why the hell did all these gamers turn into yikes oof cucks over the writer of Harry Potter and some Japanese ads nobody ever saw.

Dog whistling, trolling and more... as the very 1st post on the forum

"Dog whistling" .... Fucking christ on a stick.

They are not the majority of gamers tho. They are just the same type of always-online people who never touch grass. The reseterans/redditgaming/redditgamingcirclejerk/someanimetwitterpics/and wherever else they fester, they have to all be the same people going to all these online sites which is why they all know every weird term they make up and just sound the same.

But as always, they are not the majority. 

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So much for a finished property huh.

Also, Hogwarts Legacy has been on the top 10 since it came out. Sure the rubbish controversy probably sold some copies but then who else is buying it though? It still selling and will keep going for the switch version.

[Snoopy]

Surprised Morrigan hasn’t jumped to Jew Bear’s defence. Wasn’t she championing TLOU2 as a blueprint for destroying Gaza?

[benji]

I can't save this one for getting through the rest of the pages:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/rolling-stone-osama-bin-laden%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%98letter-to-america%E2%80%99-goes-viral-21-years-later-%E2%80%94-on-tiktok.785970/#post-115018248

Bin Laden, of all the fuckers, should not be relevant enough to warrant even an article on Yahoo in 2023 if America didn't do her absolute best to remain a plutocratic colonial power helping to wage a genocide against Muslims. We had all that time to learn, like, a single lesson. Now here we are with this bullshit.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/rolling-stone-osama-bin-laden%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%98letter-to-america%E2%80%99-goes-viral-21-years-later-%E2%80%94-on-tiktok.785970/page-2#post-115019391

es. America cannot learn a lesson about it because it can't be discussed honestly. It was an unjustifiable atrocity but if you attempt to explore reasons it happened beyond "Good US vs Evil Them", you'll be branded a terrorist sympathiser. Much like the current Gaza conflict.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/rolling-stone-osama-bin-laden%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%98letter-to-america%E2%80%99-goes-viral-21-years-later-%E2%80%94-on-tiktok.785970/page-2#post-115021872

Of course, an actually accurate explanation of why 9/11 and the War on Terror happened would have to look at the decolonial movements of the 20th century and the United States actions in the Middle East to oppose Communism and Pan-Arab nationalism during the Cold War, empowering these insane groups for short term gains and then being stung by them themselves, but you're hardly going to teach people that since it's not much better a look for America.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/rolling-stone-osama-bin-laden%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%98letter-to-america%E2%80%99-goes-viral-21-years-later-%E2%80%94-on-tiktok.785970/page-2#post-115022226

Older people get mad at young people learning more about someone who older people only taught as being the devil incarnate and nothing more.

It's not surprising that young people are surprise to find out Bin Laden was more of a natural product of America's colonialism than a random violent force.

bin Laden's opposition to America was because it sided with the wrong Muslims. The goal was a broad Islamic uprising that would result in a proper unified Caliphate, not the elimination of America. America's defeat (and withdrawal from the Middle East) was necessary because it propped up the improper Muslim states/kingdoms/etc. preventing that unification. This was the same type of reason they opposed the Soviets and sided with America then, it was the lesser evil.

Another example of how everyone's interests are viewed only through the lens of the upper class western progressives who want some kind of race war or something.

Also an example of how Nepenthe should listen to Osama bin Laden on the merits of compromise.

[Daft Hand]

I can't save this one for getting through the rest of the pages:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/rolling-stone-osama-bin-laden%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%98letter-to-america%E2%80%99-goes-viral-21-years-later-%E2%80%94-on-tiktok.785970/#post-115018248

Bin Laden, of all the fuckers, should not be relevant enough to warrant even an article on Yahoo in 2023 if America didn't do her absolute best to remain a plutocratic colonial power helping to wage a genocide against Muslims. We had all that time to learn, like, a single lesson. Now here we are with this bullshit.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/rolling-stone-osama-bin-laden%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%98letter-to-america%E2%80%99-goes-viral-21-years-later-%E2%80%94-on-tiktok.785970/page-2#post-115019391

es. America cannot learn a lesson about it because it can't be discussed honestly. It was an unjustifiable atrocity but if you attempt to explore reasons it happened beyond "Good US vs Evil Them", you'll be branded a terrorist sympathiser. Much like the current Gaza conflict.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/rolling-stone-osama-bin-laden%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%98letter-to-america%E2%80%99-goes-viral-21-years-later-%E2%80%94-on-tiktok.785970/page-2#post-115021872

Of course, an actually accurate explanation of why 9/11 and the War on Terror happened would have to look at the decolonial movements of the 20th century and the United States actions in the Middle East to oppose Communism and Pan-Arab nationalism during the Cold War, empowering these insane groups for short term gains and then being stung by them themselves, but you're hardly going to teach people that since it's not much better a look for America.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/rolling-stone-osama-bin-laden%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%98letter-to-america%E2%80%99-goes-viral-21-years-later-%E2%80%94-on-tiktok.785970/page-2#post-115022226

Older people get mad at young people learning more about someone who older people only taught as being the devil incarnate and nothing more.

It's not surprising that young people are surprise to find out Bin Laden was more of a natural product of America's colonialism than a random violent force.

bin Laden's opposition to America was because it sided with the wrong Muslims. The goal was a broad Islamic uprising that would result in a proper unified Caliphate, not the elimination of America. America's defeat (and withdrawal from the Middle East) was necessary because it propped up the improper Muslim states/kingdoms/etc. preventing that unification. This was the same type of reason they opposed the Soviets and sided with America then, it was the lesser evil.

Another example of how everyone's interests are viewed only through the lens of the upper class western progressives who want some kind of race war or something.

Also an example of how Nepenthe should listen to Osama bin Laden on the merits of compromise.

Okay but we need to talk about the real important question here

Would Bin Laden have streamed the wizard game???

[benji]

Oh I know why literacy rates have fallen recently, but Americans' relationship with literacy, education, and conspiracism has always been tenuous and whitewashed because the reality of the matter is fundamentally against the political and economic interests of the United States. It is literally better for politicians to make sure we are, at max, only as smart as is necessary to fulfill the functions of capitalism and be unable to question and thus fight Western hegemony. You only start getting a more accurate historical education in college, and even then that's dependent upon your privileges to even get to college and interests in the subject. Most folks, even leftists, know fuck all about the Global South, and that isn't a new development from the pandemic. That's by design of this country.

Most people in the Global South know fuck all about the Global South because that's a western upper class academic designation imposed on them. What do Argentinians, Tanzanians and Indonesians have in common? "DURRR COLONIALISM" except it was all completely different and Argentina has been freed from it since before the other two were truly colonized. The American "Global" South has many of the longest lived independent nations in existence, the African "Global" South can date its borders back less than a century.

Can we stop 👏 erasing 👏 other peoples histories so they fit your neat-and-tidy naive and ignorant black-and-white simplistic "leftist" worldviews?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-marvels-ot-furys-angels.780227/page-22#post-114900050
https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-marvels-ot-furys-angels.780227/page-23#post-114957215

we get 10 mediocre action movies starring white men every year that come and go, and as soon as there's something with a woman of color in it, it has to be the greatest film of all time or it should have never been greenlit

And that's the mentality that got Batgirl Batgirl'd and not The Flash or Aquaman

1. Aquaman like Black Adam does not star a white man, nor is it directed by one.
2. Batgirl could be "Batgirl'd" because the one-time tax credit was worth more than it would have made at the box office. The Flash made $270 million which is exactly why they didn't can it and eat the $300 million the company had taken on it. It's the same reason Aquaman is still coming out even though the reboot of DC films has been announced almost a year ago. If a Wonder Woman 3 was sitting around it too would be coming out despite being female-led. All for the same ignorant of diversity reasons: they can make money. When it came to Batgirl they preferred taking the guaranteed money of the tax credit over having to spend money to make money on something that apparently looked like shit.
3. I notice you ignored Blue Beetle which is the closest to Batgirl in being promoted from streaming to theaters but unlike Batgirl they kept it, it's full of Latinxes and rewarded the faith Warner put in it by making back its budget at theaters when it probably should have failed totally.

i think autists or at least a certain type of autist like Kyuuji simply can't relate to or like anyone who isnt just like them. Sad!

Not only that, they refuse to try and relate to anyone who isn't just like them. Then project this on everyone else.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/naughty-dog-creative-head-neil-druckmann-to-receive-nyvgcc-legend-award.785985/post-115026840

Both-sides-ism is often roasted because it's a rhetorical device often pushed by far right personalities and centrists when they want to muddy waters of discussion.

This guy defended Both-Sides and wasn't banned.  Apparently there are times when "both sides" can be used for good.  I assume that means when approved people do it.

I like the part how this is only a rhetorical device pushed by "far-right" and "centrists" to "muddy waters of discussion." Not something the far-left, center-left and apparently the center-right do or an accusation they throw out to muddy waters of discussion rather than respond to the actual argument.

[benji]

Okay but we need to talk about the real important question here

Would Bin Laden have streamed the wizard game???

I'm not sure because he was murdered by the colonialist white supremacists before Joanne's face-heel turn but being a non-yt billionaire from overseas he may have been more in touch through ancient tribal ways of knowing with the problematic stuff we're now learning was always hidden in Harry Potter.

[Nintex]

Osama and the other Wahabis were basically against Saudi Arabia allowing US/NATO forces on 'holy land' to bring down Saddam who had invaded Kuwait to steal their oil. They believed that the US and their allies would bring their degeneracy to the Middle East with them (and they weren't wrong actually).

They realized after Gulf War I that most of the Saudi royalty would side with the US and not the Wahabi clerics so they started a campaign of terror both in the Middle East and abroad against mostly US/NATO forces. 

The Taliban in Afghanistan were poor and neglected by the US following their war against the USSR and various civil wars.
Osama and Al Qaida paid them to set up their operations there.

[Uncle]

think of all the great entertainment content that bin laden missed

he was killed may 2011, and skyrim came out 11/11/11

he was so close 

[benji]

Osama and the other Wahabis were basically against Saudi Arabia allowing US/NATO forces on 'holy land' to bring down Saddam who had invaded Kuwait to steal their oil. They believed that the US and their allies would bring their degeneracy to the Middle East with them (and they weren't wrong actually).

They realized after Gulf War I that most of the Saudi royalty would side with the US and not the Wahabi clerics so they started a campaign of terror both in the Middle East and abroad against mostly US/NATO forces. 

The Taliban in Afghanistan were poor and neglected by the US following their war against the USSR and various civil wars.
Osama and Al Qaida paid them to set up their operations there.

Because I rarely get to say this in response to a Nintex post, right, this is exactly what Nepenthe and the rest are missing: bin Laden's complaint was an intermural dispute. It wasn't their type of plan where step 2 is "?" it was once America pulls out those would be weak and they could turn to their attacks towards them even more than they already had. This is not to say they'd love America and Israel anyway just that the targeting of them was far more practical to their actual intentions: saving Islam.

None of this is hidden or esoteric, it's the bulk of what these dudes talked about. You have to willfully focus only on the stuff about America.

[ClothedMac]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/splatoon-3%E2%80%99s-new-special-ability-splattercolor-screen-might-make-the-game-worse-for-colorblind-players-due-to-it-forcing-grayscale-on-foes.786279/

I guess this shouldn't surprise me considering how little they care about accessibility. I want more people to be able to enjoy Splatoon, not fewer.

I'm not aware of any form of colorblindness that effects readability of grayscale images.

why would this make it worse for colourblind players in specific

as being color blind myself(not fully), I feel like this should seemingly just essentially make everyone fully colorblind

My concern comes from how the grayscale would impact certain colors in the game. Normally it'd be a lighter & darker shade of gray, which might be fine. But if they end up being too close or if it interacts weirdly with the colorblind settings available, that's where the nightmare scenarios could come up.

My worry is that if the colors are too close, the two shades of gray may not be easily set apart for some.

This sounds like complaining for the sake of complaining. Are you even colorblind yourself? If not, what evidence do you have that this might be an issue?

Thread locked at request of op

How many vaguely threatening DM's did he send to Miyamoto concerning this nightmare scenario?

[benji]

[benji]

Oof, one of the replies mention the age differences in bin Laden's marriages and I totally forgot about this.

[Taco Bell Tower]

think of all the great entertainment content that bin laden missed

he was killed may 2011, and skyrim came out 11/11/11

he was so close 

Fuck! I voted for Obama too and he took that away from bin Laden 

[HaughtyFrank]

Edit: Why can't I find the full clip :'(

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/splatoon-3%E2%80%99s-new-special-ability-splattercolor-screen-might-make-the-game-worse-for-colorblind-players-due-to-it-forcing-grayscale-on-foes.786279/

I guess this shouldn't surprise me considering how little they care about accessibility. I want more people to be able to enjoy Splatoon, not fewer.

I'm not aware of any form of colorblindness that effects readability of grayscale images.

why would this make it worse for colourblind players in specific

as being color blind myself(not fully), I feel like this should seemingly just essentially make everyone fully colorblind

My concern comes from how the grayscale would impact certain colors in the game. Normally it'd be a lighter & darker shade of gray, which might be fine. But if they end up being too close or if it interacts weirdly with the colorblind settings available, that's where the nightmare scenarios could come up.

My worry is that if the colors are too close, the two shades of gray may not be easily set apart for some.

This sounds like complaining for the sake of complaining. Are you even colorblind yourself? If not, what evidence do you have that this might be an issue?

Thread locked at request of op

How many vaguely threatening DM's did he send to Miyamoto concerning this nightmare scenario?

This sounds like complaining for the sake of complaining. Are you even colorblind yourself? If not, what evidence do you have that this might be an issue?

I think he just looks at comments and like the sheep he is posts the same complaint