(12-11-2023, 04:24 AM)benji wrote: Nepenthe, https://www.resetera.com/threads/cinema-sins-and-similar-content-really-did-ruin-how-an-entire-generation-of-folks-analyze-media.793821/post-116105208 wrote:Quote:How do we get away from this?
Cogent analysis of art like films would require some basic level of media and cultural literacy- understanding the identity and intent of the director, the social and political base assumptions the film is working on, when and where the film takes place, and a willingness to play with metaphor.
It requires reading, curiosity, and empathy......
So yeah, we probably don't fix it! 🙃
this really pisses me off because even as dumb as cinemasins is, a lot of people in that "scene" who evolved past him are the reason the public are finally waking up to the fact that everything is great about modern media except the writing (the most important part)
these channels have gotten people more used to watching movies critically and noticing shit they used to let slide, and spreading the word when films aren't very good
I have a friend who is, by his own admission, an uncritical consumer, someone who watches all movies as "popcorn movies" and lets everything wash over him, and even he has been getting pissed at stuff like Rise of Skywalker and Rings of Power...he doesn't even watch any film criticism but the sheer badness is breaking through to him anyway
people like nepenthe see this chart:
and they say noooo, god DAMN it this is due to cinemasins
in their world, "increased media literacy" correlates with finding all of disney's recent slop to be incredible and flawless
"if these poor huddled masses were just educated, they would understand the pure genius of the Marvels"
Disney movies made 1,4 billion minus?
Bruh, bruuuuh how is zeovgm alive
I do love how the Playstation OT has a thank you to Jim Ryan despite comparing people to dogs.
12-11-2023, 05:34 AM
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(12-11-2023, 05:23 AM)Uncle wrote: (12-11-2023, 04:24 AM)benji wrote: Nepenthe, https://www.resetera.com/threads/cinema-sins-and-similar-content-really-did-ruin-how-an-entire-generation-of-folks-analyze-media.793821/post-116105208 wrote:Cogent analysis of art like films would require some basic level of media and cultural literacy- understanding the identity and intent of the director, the social and political base assumptions the film is working on, when and where the film takes place, and a willingness to play with metaphor.
It requires reading, curiosity, and empathy......
So yeah, we probably don't fix it! 🙃
this really pisses me off because even as dumb as cinemasins is, a lot of people in that "scene" who evolved past him are the reason the public are finally waking up to the fact that everything is great about modern media except the writing (the most important part)
these channels have gotten people more used to watching movies critically and noticing shit they used to let slide, and spreading the word when films aren't very good
I have a friend who is, by his own admission, an uncritical consumer, someone who watches all movies as "popcorn movies" and lets everything wash over him, and even he has been getting pissed at stuff like Rise of Skywalker and Rings of Power...he doesn't even watch any film criticism but the sheer badness is breaking through to him anyway
people like nepenthe see this chart:
![[Image: qXuxUpF.png]](https://i.imgur.com/qXuxUpF.png)
and they say noooo, god DAMN it this is due to cinemasins
in their world, "increased media literacy" correlates with finding all of disney's recent slop to be incredible and flawless
"if these poor huddled masses were just educated, they would understand the pure genius of the Marvels"
LOL, someone please pull out that road to $10 billion graphic all the champagne socialists were trumpeting a few years back!!!
I don’t know how accurate those numbers are, but the production budgets seem insane.
Quickly looking up other big movies this year. Oppenheimer is $100M. Barbie $150M. Mario $100M. How are they regularly hitting 2x costs.
I'd gladly sit through a 8-hour show of trailers/advertisements to get excited about product and consume product and spend hundreds of dollars at target if it will make the world a better place for Disney shareholders
Intersectionality is when it's fine to hate jews because you triple dipped on Forspoken
12-11-2023, 09:58 AM
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(12-11-2023, 09:48 AM)Besticus Maximus wrote: Intersectionality is when it's fine to hate jews because you triple dipped on Forspoken "Tell certain ethnicities to go back where they belong or they'll get what they deserve in between multiple showings of Godzilla and Lucio cosmetic farming? Yep, guess that's a thing I do now."
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I'm calling shenanigans on the marketing spend claims on that chart that Disney randomly decided to go lower than their usual marketing spend on The Little Mermaid and WAY lower than usual on Indiana Jones & The Tired Franchise and The Marvels.
Seems like copium that the two mega bombas just didn't get the marketing push they needed.
There is no fucking way they pushed The Marvels about the same as they pushed Quantumania. They were fucking hyping it.
12-11-2023, 10:21 AM
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Google published the top searches for 2023 by category today. Will era discuss the gaming results and the implications of them?
https://trends.google.com/trends/yis/2023/GLOBAL/?hl=en-US
Quote:1 Hogwarts Legacy
2 The Last of Us
3 Connections
4 Battlegrounds Mobile India
5 Starfield
6 Baldur's Gate 3
7 スイカ ゲーム
8 Diablo IV
9 Atomic Heart
10 Sons of the Forest
12-11-2023, 10:35 AM
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(12-11-2023, 10:21 AM)kaleidoscopium wrote: Google published the top searches for 2023 by category today. Will era discuss the gaming results and the implications of them?
https://trends.google.com/trends/yis/2023/GLOBAL/?hl=en-US
Quote:1
2 The Last of Us
3 Connections
4 Battlegrounds Mobile India
5 Starfield
6 Baldur's Gate 3
7 スイカ ゲーム
8 Diablo IV
9 Atomic Heart
10 Sons of the Forest I imagine the leader here has a lot to do with the TV show:
Quote:TV Shows
1 The Last of Us
2 Wednesday
3 Ginny & Georgia
4 One Piece
5 Kaleidoscope
12-11-2023, 10:49 AM
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(12-11-2023, 06:45 AM)Polident wrote: I don’t know how accurate those numbers are, but the production budgets seem insane.
Quickly looking up other big movies this year. Oppenheimer is $100M. Barbie $150M. Mario $100M. How are they regularly hitting 2x costs.
Don't they do something retarded with the VFX? Like have loads of different stuff rendered, I'm guessing that adds to the bloat.
All for films that look visually repellant imo
GuessMyUserName wrote:What I'd actually like addressed though is the fact that Threads doesn't actually give any shits about toxic hate comments. They're still there just fine, I've tried reporting straight-up vermin rhetoric, harassing people as ugly, fat, transphobic slurs, pedophiles harassing women, even spamming 18-y/o thirst threads onto post criticizing men targeting young women. All my reports have no action taken - actually just checking there is one that came back, an account with the f-slur in its name that does nothing but post replies about trans people and muslims in the most putrid terms - "we found nothing against our hate speech policy".
I still attest that Threads in its current form is a more positive community than current Twitter.... but if Twitter loses its foothold, they're all coming (and already are) to Threads to get the toxic engagement they want harassing women & minorities and Threads does not at all mind that.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/metas-competitor-to-𝕏-called-threads-update-eu-launch-in-dec.737511/page-160?post=116141553#post-116141553
(12-11-2023, 10:49 AM)Puffy Fucking Baby wrote: (12-11-2023, 06:45 AM)Polident wrote: I don’t know how accurate those numbers are, but the production budgets seem insane.
Quickly looking up other big movies this year. Oppenheimer is $100M. Barbie $150M. Mario $100M. How are they regularly hitting 2x costs.
Don't they do something retarded with the VFX? Like have loads of different stuff rendered, I'm guessing that adds to the bloat.
All for films that look visually repellant imo 
I’ve seen stories about over using VFX because they don’t worry about unions or whatever. But that’s supposed to save money.
Where does the money go. To pick on captain marvel 2, as far as I can tell, it doesn’t have any high profile talent to drive the cost up. Even if somehow Brie was getting Robert Downey Jr money, like $25 million, that’s still $250 million unaccounted for.
Maybe… maybe they are paying these “fans”
I’m available to shill, Mr. Iger! That ashtoka show was good, actually!
12-11-2023, 12:55 PM
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Eric Cartman dateline='[url=tel:1702286061' wrote: 1702286061[/url]']
I'd gladly sit through a 8-hour show of trailers/advertisements to get excited about product and consume product and spend hundreds of dollars at target if it will make the world a better place for Disney shareholders
kaleidoscopium dateline='[url=tel:1702290113' wrote: 1702290113[/url]']
Google published the top searches for 2023 by category today. Will era discuss the gaming results and the implications of them?
https://trends.google.com/trends/yis/2023/GLOBAL/?hl=en-US
Quote:1 Hogwarts Legacy
2 The Last of Us
3 Connections
4 Battlegrounds Mobile India
5 Starfield
6 Baldur's Gate 3
7 スイカ ゲーム
8 Diablo IV
9 Atomic Heart
10 Sons of the Forest
https://www.resetera.com/threads/google-trends-top-10-games-searched-worldwide-in-2023-tlou-2-connections-3-battlegrounds-mobile-india-4.794184/?post=116169204#post-116169204
Glitchy Degree wrote:Weird that it's a top 10 with only nine entries, and that it goes from 2 to 10. Anyway, interesting list, I'm surprised there's no Mario Wonder or Zelda.
Some extreme cope going on in that Starfield sucks, says everyone thread. One of those knife edge cases where the will was probably there to put a ban rule on not liking it, but they didn't have the support of the princess bishops of Burkas or demon lord Nepenthe, who probably thinks space is racist
Quote:Hmm I feel like Hogwarts dropped like a rock from public consciousness like a week after it came out.
Quote:lol hardly, in fact it's been floating a lot given how the last gen and Switch ports have come staggered through out the year.
You might have the Era perception of it.
12-11-2023, 02:07 PM
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Dever wrote:Hmm I feel like Hogwarts dropped like a rock from public consciousness like a week after it came out.
patitoloco wrote:lol hardly, in fact it's been floating a lot given how the last gen and Switch ports have come staggered through out the year.
You might have the Era perception of it.
Dever wrote:Hmm no I don't think so. I know it was banned here, but I did follow discussions and streams of it elsewhere. My overall impression was that it was a highly polished but very forgettable game. This was largely due to it not really delivering on the fantasy of being a student at Hogwarts. Instead it opted to be a generic open world game where you run around outside Hogwarts, murdering goblins and such. But I'm not surprised about it being on this list, it did sell an insane amount of copies. patitoloco wrote:Which is why it didn't drop like a rock from public consciousness like you said.
Obviously it wasn't a 90+ state-of-the-art game, and ended up being a little bit generic like you said, but it is the best game in decades of one of the biggest IPs in the world. That's not questionable.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/google-trends-top-10-games-searched-worldwide-in-2023-tlou-2-connections-3-battlegrounds-mobile-india-4.794184/?post=116171115#post-116171115
Quote:Starfield is mid af right now but it also has a whole lot in common with both No Man's Sky and Cyberpunk, both of which (after years of updates) completely turned around and became genuinely really great. So I don't think it's true that Starfield is an unsalvageable game. The question though is whether BGS is actually going to support it long enough and do the hard work necessary to actually patch it into a good game
bethesda has already shown they're giving up on starfield because they just released a massive new patch to skyrim to sell more paid mods there, diverting attention back to when they made good(?) games
btw they seriously added guns to skyrim
12-11-2023, 03:54 PM
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Uncle dateline='[url=tel:1702309870' wrote: 1702309870[/url]']
bethesda has already shown they're giving up on starfield because they just released a massive new patch to skyrim to sell more paid mods there, diverting attention back to when they made good(?) games
btw they seriously added guns to skyrim
![[Image: 8lYsPv0.png]](https://i.imgur.com/8lYsPv0.png)
Didn’t Bethesda also recently release a massive patch improving performance and stability among other things to Starfield? Games got a ton of issues, but so far, they seem to be supporting it.
no they didn't
Spoiler: (click to show)(click to hide) I have no idea
(12-11-2023, 04:01 PM)Uncle wrote: no they didn't
Spoiler: (click to show)(click to hide) I have no idea
They did, last month
12-11-2023, 04:26 PM
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Uncle dateline='[url=tel:1702310482' wrote: 1702310482[/url]']
no they didn't
Spoiler: (click to show)(click to hide) I have no idea
Don’t get me wrong, I doubt Starfield even remotely has the legs of Skyrim for a lot of reasons. At least for right now though, they seem to be working on it. This time next year though? That might be dicey.
It’s not a bad game, but as someone here said (might have been you even) the setting and atmosphere, though original, is not very interesting after you spend a bunch of time with it. Ultimately it need a different storyline than multiverse of Todd.
And there is still something there to work with now that we know there are parallel universes in the game, they just needed to make those more common in New Game+.
I bought it at launch and was very excited. But played for 1 weekend and never came back. Tried to refund but enough time had passed that I couldn’t anymore. Feels very bleh
https://www.resetera.com/threads/life.794118/
Quote:So I don't have family or friends to make new feel alive. I don't have friends who want me, I'm tired of living but I don't want to end my life
Lot of don't do it posts.
12-11-2023, 05:47 PM
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The usual suspects did their best to divert and discredit the two guys who busted Jirard as Nazis. Obviously when that failed Dubs had no other option but to lock the thread
12-11-2023, 06:21 PM
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https://www.resetera.com/threads/google-trends-top-10-games-searched-worldwide-in-2023-tlou-2-connections-3-battlegrounds-mobile-india-4.794184/
This topic of course delivers so far with these losers and their pearl clutching
This just a list thread! Close and delete this, no wonder the TERA squad are in fear of their lives with such blatant transphobia on show here
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