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(02-10-2024, 10:45 PM)Besticus Maximus wrote: Anime girls have big foreheads. Just saying.

They intentionally go for the ones with biggest foreheads, like that girl from Persona 5.

(Is because baldness)
Bets on if the dems lose they blame Russian interference by spreading not to vote talking points online?
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Nepenthe wrote:Right now is the time for Democratic supporters to prove that they actually do have empathy and principles beyond just merely winning elections. Muslim Americans especially are watching.

You all people talking about principles and empathy.
As if that mental dickhead has any empathy
(02-10-2024, 10:57 PM)Gameboy Nostalgia wrote: Bets on if the dems lose they blame Russian interference by spreading not to vote talking points online?

That’s already happening  



(02-10-2024, 09:36 PM)HaughtyFrank wrote:
Quote:Yall are honestly surprised about the guy's politics? I mean Bioshock is just Ayn Rand the video game.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/judas-story-trailer.811488/post-118492176

Blown away by this guy managing to misinterpret Bioshock
Would you kindly explain how Andrew Ryan isn't the hero? Why else is he in the game???

(02-10-2024, 10:45 PM)Gameboy Nostalgia wrote:
Nepenthe wrote:The reality is that not voting for Biden is not actually a vote for Trump. It's simply a vote that doesn't exist, as are the millions of votes do every year that don't get cast for a multitude of reasons that are never actually discussed in earnest for why they weren't.

In general though, browbeating Muslim Americans and their allies who have decided that their genocide is the line they won't compromise on is not going to make them vote for Biden, especially by saying Trump will be worse on Gaza as if you can be worse than, you know, a genocide.

You can either make the argument that they need to stop being oh-so selfish and put aside their genocide for your causes- obviously sure to win you friends and votes- or that Biden is the one who needs to actually move on the issue as any decent civil servant should. I would personally say that the latter argument is the easier one to make.

Right now is the time for Democratic supporters to prove that they actually do have empathy and principles beyond just merely winning elections. Muslim Americans especially are watching.
Absolutely love how she keeps conflating Palestinians and all Muslims.

How would Democratic supporters "prove" they have empathy and principles by not voting? After all, many of them are yt cishets so it's easy to say they didn't vote just to genocide trans people. Or to stop Kamala Harris for being a woman of color. Maybe they should prove they have empathy and principles!
(02-10-2024, 11:04 PM)TylenolJones wrote:
(02-10-2024, 10:57 PM)Gameboy Nostalgia wrote: Bets on if the dems lose they blame Russian interference by spreading not to vote talking points online?

That’s already happening  




I love it!  Malarkey!

Hopefully they keep it up and push that narrative harder on it too.
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CHC wrote:You are aware of Joseph Stalin, Pol Pot, Fidel Castro, the Ayatollah, Mao Zedong, Saddam Hussein and the many other dictators who have followed popular revolutions?

I have no comment on Bioshock Infinite since I haven't played it since it came out, it's not that great, and certainly not as smart as it thinks it is, but it is extremely common to have revolutions followed by harsh dictatorships in recent human history. If anything it's probably more the rule than the exception.

Neiteio wrote:That's never what Infinite was saying. Infinite's whole point was that violence begets violence ("Will the circle go unbroken"), and so to stop it, you need to break the cycle, which requires introspection and rooting out bigotry and prejudice. Any group of people, if wrongfully oppressed long enough, can reach a violent breaking point where they turn on their oppressors and exact similar or greater brutality -- and the regime that follows isn't always kind. What happened in Infinite is what's happened with countless oppressed groups throughout history. What happened was human nature. Revolutionairies achieving regime change and then becoming brutal dictators like the ones they once opposed is a tale as old as time. The game is still incredibly sympathetic, though, to the fact that the minorities were the ones originally wronged. And the game is resoundingly clear that the original sin that kicked off the horrible cycle was white supremacy.
Messofanego wrote:That's a very cynical take on human nature, and tbh a very misleading perspective on revolutions. I get the feeling you don't care for revolutions or violence to acheieve them. Reducing it all down to revolutionaries will always become brutal dictators, as if its down to human nature rather than many other factors when it does happen, is quite simplistic.


Decades of examples of revolutions turning into despot regimes and yo still got people ol' Messy here just gloss it over. No wonder they miss the point of Infinite.
(02-10-2024, 10:45 PM)Gameboy Nostalgia wrote:
Nepenthe wrote:You can either make the argument that they need to stop being oh-so selfish and put aside their genocide for your causes- obviously sure to win you friends and votes- or that Biden is the one who needs to actually move on the issue as any decent civil servant should. I would personally say that the latter argument is the easier one to make.
Wait, is she saying that Biden should ignore what people actually want and the law? I'd say she's coming around to Trump's position on foreign policy but even he maintains the figleaf of how it's what people actually want or at the very least what his supporters want.
(02-10-2024, 11:17 PM)Averon wrote:
CHC wrote:You are aware of Joseph Stalin, Pol Pot, Fidel Castro, the Ayatollah, Mao Zedong, Saddam Hussein and the many other dictators who have followed popular revolutions?

I have no comment on Bioshock Infinite since I haven't played it since it came out, it's not that great, and certainly not as smart as it thinks it is, but it is extremely common to have revolutions followed by harsh dictatorships in recent human history. If anything it's probably more the rule than the exception.

Neiteio wrote:That's never what Infinite was saying. Infinite's whole point was that violence begets violence ("Will the circle go unbroken"), and so to stop it, you need to break the cycle, which requires introspection and rooting out bigotry and prejudice. Any group of people, if wrongfully oppressed long enough, can reach a violent breaking point where they turn on their oppressors and exact similar or greater brutality -- and the regime that follows isn't always kind. What happened in Infinite is what's happened with countless oppressed groups throughout history. What happened was human nature. Revolutionairies achieving regime change and then becoming brutal dictators like the ones they once opposed is a tale as old as time. The game is still incredibly sympathetic, though, to the fact that the minorities were the ones originally wronged. And the game is resoundingly clear that the original sin that kicked off the horrible cycle was white supremacy.
Messofanego wrote:That's a very cynical take on human nature, and tbh a very misleading perspective on revolutions. I get the feeling you don't care for revolutions or violence to acheieve them. Reducing it all down to revolutionaries will always become brutal dictators, as if its down to human nature rather than many other factors when it does happen, is quite simplistic.


Decades of examples of revolutions turning into despot regimes and yo still got people ol' Messy here just gloss it over. No wonder they miss the point of Infinite.


A revolution is a political process that goes full circle. I think a lot of these budding political theorists tend to forget that part. The point of revolution is not to destroy tyranny, it's to replace the tyrant. Lenin claimed that a marxist revolution required a dictatorship of the proletariat. Robespierre tried to create a dictatorship of citizens. Caesar replaced the tyranny of the senate with a dictatorship of the populares. The senate replaced a tyranny of kings. Khomeini replaced a tyranny of the shah with an islamic dictatorship. etc etc etc.
(02-10-2024, 11:17 PM)Averon wrote:
Messofanego wrote:That's a very cynical take on human nature, and tbh a very misleading perspective on revolutions. I get the feeling you don't care for revolutions or violence to acheieve them. Reducing it all down to revolutionaries will always become brutal dictators, as if its down to human nature rather than many other factors when it does happen, is quite simplistic.
What's the misleading perspective? Can he even come up with an example otherwise?
Guy who polices his wife's YouTube views, keeps dossiers about wrongthink on YouTubers/streamers and has explicitly called for police to imprison people who say "problematic" things online: "[Violent extreme revolutionaries not caring about limiting their own power is] a very cynical take on human nature"
(02-10-2024, 11:20 PM)benji wrote:
(02-10-2024, 11:17 PM)Averon wrote:
Messofanego wrote:That's a very cynical take on human nature, and tbh a very misleading perspective on revolutions. I get the feeling you don't care for revolutions or violence to acheieve them. Reducing it all down to revolutionaries will always become brutal dictators, as if its down to human nature rather than many other factors when it does happen, is quite simplistic.
What's the misleading perspective? Can he even come up with an example otherwise?

Sleuth Semanticist wrote:Ok, so what does any of that have to do with American history and Bioshock Infinite?

That a subset of a population will exploit the pathos and inertia of the masses to their own gain is not an interesting analysis of power dynamics or the suffering of individuals subjected to those circumstances, especially one so inextricably linked to the American reconstruction era. America has a hundred years of evidence to the contrary of whatever Levine was trying to convey. Yeah there are shitty humans. But most people are not violent revolutionaries, nor are most people even revolutionary. To that point, no I don't think listing off a series of dictators without historical context is compelling evidence.

They don't need evidence.  Listing revolutionaries becoming despots lacks the "historical context."
Ulysses Cheeks wrote:I fully support this Michigan group's right to withhold their vote, but I gotta say, as someone with a large variety of Muslim friends, lumping all of them together under the auspice of solidarity with Palestine seems awfully ignorant and insensitive. Especially considering the vast bulk of American Muslims are of Asian descent, I worry that grouping them all together is essentially a genocide on their own cultural origins.

Choose your own mod adventure.

1 = Banned for Tone Policing and Trolling (User has only 240 messages)
2 = Banned for implying that grouping all muslims is a genocide.
3 = Threadbanned
Nepenthe wrote:This only works if a majority of those 10 want to vote for your candidate. But you admit you don't know how many Rs are coming out and independents seem unreliable; get those independents to vote more and they go for Trump like they did in 2016, then whoopsadoodle. Seems like your strategy didn't work.

Although as I always bring up, "win every single election forever and ever and never while never actually doing anything to bolster our country against fascism" isn't and never will be a semblance of a political strategy. Ergo, what are Democrats doing to bolster systems of protection for when Republicans eventually get reelected? Because if it doesn't happen this November, there is some November in the future where it absolutely will. What will Democrats excuse be? "You fucking ungrateful minorities should've voted harder?" Fuck these people, honestly.

Ergo, you got grifted for a Nissan.  Divest from capitalism, colonialism, and white supremacy!
Nepenthe showing everyone how she is politically retarded is pretty great  lol
Quote:Especially considering the vast bulk of American Muslims are of Asian descent, I worry that grouping them all together is essentially a genocide on their own cultural origins.

I know the bar for genocide on Era is pretty low, but come on.
Nepenthe sure does care a lot more about Palestinians than she does Ukrainians. I wonder what in particular about Ukrainians makes her unable to empathize with them. Thinking
(02-10-2024, 10:27 PM)Snoopy wrote: What is it with these trans and their mad foreheads? As far as I can tell they have 2 styles. Mad forehead with string hair. Or massive man disguise fringe

Does pumping yourself full of bathtub oestrogen affect your hair growth and make pattern baldness?
(02-10-2024, 10:49 PM)Nintex wrote:
Quote:The reality is that not voting for Biden is not actually a vote for Trump. It's simply a vote that doesn't exist

They is 100% correct. Just stay in your basement and watch your cartoons  OFFICIAL TEAM TRUMP SEAL OF QUALITY™

Don't let the white crackas tell you anything else, this is how math works.

If you don't vote Trump won't get a vote and he'll be very sad. Not voting is how you win!

Didn't we already prove that mathematics is racist?

There was a video of an angry black woman explaining it and everything.

Not like this!
(02-10-2024, 11:17 PM)Averon wrote:
CHC wrote:You are aware of Joseph Stalin, Pol Pot, Fidel Castro, the Ayatollah, Mao Zedong, Saddam Hussein and the many other dictators who have followed popular revolutions?

I have no comment on Bioshock Infinite since I haven't played it since it came out, it's not that great, and certainly not as smart as it thinks it is, but it is extremely common to have revolutions followed by harsh dictatorships in recent human history. If anything it's probably more the rule than the exception.

Neiteio wrote:That's never what Infinite was saying. Infinite's whole point was that violence begets violence ("Will the circle go unbroken"), and so to stop it, you need to break the cycle, which requires introspection and rooting out bigotry and prejudice. Any group of people, if wrongfully oppressed long enough, can reach a violent breaking point where they turn on their oppressors and exact similar or greater brutality -- and the regime that follows isn't always kind. What happened in Infinite is what's happened with countless oppressed groups throughout history. What happened was human nature. Revolutionairies achieving regime change and then becoming brutal dictators like the ones they once opposed is a tale as old as time. The game is still incredibly sympathetic, though, to the fact that the minorities were the ones originally wronged. And the game is resoundingly clear that the original sin that kicked off the horrible cycle was white supremacy.
Messofanego wrote:That's a very cynical take on human nature, and tbh a very misleading perspective on revolutions. I get the feeling you don't care for revolutions or violence to acheieve them. Reducing it all down to revolutionaries will always become brutal dictators, as if its down to human nature rather than many other factors when it does happen, is quite simplistic.


Decades of examples of revolutions turning into despot regimes and yo still got people ol' Messy here just gloss it over. No wonder they miss the point of Infinite.

Maybe THIS TIME a brutal violent rebellion will result in a peaceful utopia where everyone is happy and THE CORRECT people will end up in charge?
The best people OFFICIAL TEAM TRUMP SEAL OF QUALITY™
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(02-11-2024, 12:12 AM)Hap Shaughnessy wrote: Nepenthe sure does care a lot more about Palestinians than she does Ukrainians. I wonder what in particular about Ukrainians makes her unable to empathize with them. Thinking

I wonder if she realises that most Arabs and Middle Easterners hate black Africans, and especially African Americans, and all of the governments in the region would be classed as conservative?
(02-10-2024, 10:27 PM)Snoopy wrote: What is it with these trans and their mad foreheads? As far as I can tell they have 2 styles. Mad forehead with string hair. Or massive man disguise fringe

Impossible to hide male skull size/shape.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2024-ot-1-doom-eternal.800787/page-74?post=118952586#post-118952586

Wrighteous86 wrote:If Nate Silver can't do a tweet without a typo, he shouldn't be tweeting.

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Teehee
(02-11-2024, 12:34 AM)Potato wrote:
(02-11-2024, 12:12 AM)Hap Shaughnessy wrote: Nepenthe sure does care a lot more about Palestinians than she does Ukrainians. I wonder what in particular about Ukrainians makes her unable to empathize with them. Thinking

I wonder if she realises that most Arabs and Middle Easterners hate black Africans, and especially African Americans, and all of the governments in the region would be classed as conservative?


Or that the Arab slave trade was equally as horrific as the atlantic slave trade, except it went on for way longer and is still happening today
Attention Hecht.

I have an alt for you to run down:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/trump-says-he-might-encourage-russia-to-attack-nato-allies-and-that-he-wont-protect-them.815535/?post=118957410#post-118957410

Joined in 2018, only has 1500 posts, but I've been seeing him all over the place lately. Somebody's backup being used now.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/trump-says-he-might-encourage-russia-to-attack-nato-allies-and-that-he-wont-protect-them.815535/page-2?post=118958067#post-118958067
Booshka wrote:If he gets elected we shouldn't let him take office tbh.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/trump-says-he-might-encourage-russia-to-attack-nato-allies-and-that-he-wont-protect-them.815535/page-2?post=118959039#post-118959039
Booshka wrote:
Slackerish wrote:and how do "we" not let him take office?
"By Any Means Necessary": Watch Malcolm X’s Speech on Racism & Self-Defense at Audubon Ballroom

https://www.resetera.com/threads/trump-says-he-might-encourage-russia-to-attack-nato-allies-and-that-he-wont-protect-them.815535/page-2?post=118959810#post-118959810
Booshka wrote:
Addie wrote:Okay, I'll bite. What's your plan?

I don't need an entire operational plan, just a concept of operations.

And I'm being serious, even if my skepticism is probably obvious.
Anti fascists usually don't talk to cops, military or feds for one.
I love how Booshka is becoming more and more of a joke.

Booshka wrote:
Addie said: wrote:Okay, I'll bite. What's your plan?

I don't need an entire operational plan, just a concept of operations.

And I'm being serious, even if my skepticism is probably obvious.
Anti fascists usually don't talk to cops, military or feds for one.

Then gets hit by this post. It's hilarious.  lol

https://www.resetera.com/threads/trump-says-he-might-encourage-russia-to-attack-nato-allies-and-that-he-wont-protect-them.815535/page-2?post=118959909#post-118959909
(02-11-2024, 02:53 AM)Hap Shaughnessy wrote: https://www.resetera.com/threads/trump-says-he-might-encourage-russia-to-attack-nato-allies-and-that-he-wont-protect-them.815535/page-2?post=118958067#post-118958067
Booshka wrote:If he gets elected we shouldn't let him take office tbh.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/trump-says-he-might-encourage-russia-to-attack-nato-allies-and-that-he-wont-protect-them.815535/page-2?post=118959039#post-118959039
Booshka wrote:
Slackerish wrote:and how do "we" not let him take office?
"By Any Means Necessary": Watch Malcolm X’s Speech on Racism & Self-Defense at Audubon Ballroom

https://www.resetera.com/threads/trump-says-he-might-encourage-russia-to-attack-nato-allies-and-that-he-wont-protect-them.815535/page-2?post=118959810#post-118959810
Booshka wrote:
Addie wrote:Okay, I'll bite. What's your plan?

I don't need an entire operational plan, just a concept of operations.

And I'm being serious, even if my skepticism is probably obvious.
Anti fascists usually don't talk to cops, military or feds for one.

Booshka's failure brings us all together.
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