Journal of Other Forum Analysis

[Jansen]

Honestly the support this statement is getting me is depressing me. 

Go outside

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ubisoft-japan-have-cancelled-their-planned-tgs-online-stream-due-to-various-circumstances.989829/page-3#post-129182997






Era is now at the pulling-facts-out-of-our-ass copium stage

Afaik there's some Japanese media featuring Yasuke or stuff that's inspired by him like Afro Samurai. One big difference though is that those rarely claim historical accuracy. That seems to be what bugs most Japanese people. 
Meanwhile Ubisoft really loves to jump back and forth between claiming that you're diving into real history and then claiming that actually it's just a smol lil fantasy game.

[Besticus Maximus]

Larger women, older women, "manly" women or and any women who has any flaws; get lost (which includes me for 3 out of 4 if those).

Well at least you're flawless 

[DavidCroquet]

I haven't played a single asscreed game. Are any of them any good? :v

There's a reason they call it Ubislop. 

If you ignore the negative connotations of "slop" and think of something like...I dunno, a giant hot bowl of oatmeal, it's super accurate. Very filling and hearty, goes down pretty easy, and sometimes it's jazzed up with a lil brown sugar (  ) . 

But future bowls of oatmeal have a rapidly decreasing excitement ceiling, and if it's all you ever eat you'll wanna kill yourself.

[jooseloose]

Another gem from excelsiorlef and their lack of self-awareness https://www.resetera.com/threads/mkbhd-launches-subscription-wallpaper-app-faces-backlash.989805/post-129181446

Why aren't YouTubers smarter about this? Doesn't he realize that there will be 800 reaction videos about this by the end of the day?

YouTube is a breeding ground for narcissism and literal echo chambers

[HaughtyFrank]

Valkaria strikes again. Big main character energy

Could be some, but some people not liking direction would immediatly mean they are "chuds"?

I… at what point did I say ALL the comments must be chuds?

Although I can't say I'm overly surprised at you getting defensive here given your previous of defending misogynistic devs.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/tom-henderson-insider-gaming-ubisoft-cancels-press-previews-of-assassin%E2%80%99s-creed-shadows.990348/post-129189543

[Averon]

Btw, your 3 Tekken characters in your avatar all are very pretty, models even.

If you're really trying to do a weak gotcha here, you don't know me very well. I've straight up criticized Tekken and Bandai Namco for years for it's refusal to age their women (including Anna) and fighting games in general double standards when it comes to beauty and what's allowed for men (being old, fat, "ugly" in cases like Necro, one of fav SF characters) and allowed for women (not allowed to look over 30 besides the very rare exception). I've pushed for games to allow women to be fat, old, scary etc for over a decades and I'm not going be dismissed because people have decided "ugly" (yeah don't think I remember the way ERA users acted when Aloy in HFW was announced or Jill in RE3R to know how impossible those standards can be) people should be excluded from video games.

Blah, blah, blah....

[HaughtyFrank]

Btw, your 3 Tekken characters in your avatar all are very pretty, models even.

If you're really trying to do a weak gotcha here, you don't know me very well. I've straight up criticized Tekken and Bandai Namco for years for it's refusal to age their women (including Anna) and fighting games in general double standards when it comes to beauty and what's allowed for men (being old, fat, "ugly" in cases like Necro, one of fav SF characters) and allowed for women (not allowed to look over 30 besides the very rare exception). I've pushed for games to allow women to be fat, old, scary etc for over a decades and I'm not going be dismissed because people have decided "ugly" (yeah don't think I remember the way ERA users acted when Aloy in HFW was announced or Jill in RE3R to know how impossible those standards can be) people should be excluded from video games.

Blah, blah, blah....

Completely missing the point of why they choose three attractive characters as their avatar then and not "ugly" Aloy or whatever

[DavidCroquet]

Btw, your 3 Tekken characters in your avatar all are very pretty, models even.

If you're really trying to do a weak gotcha here, you don't know me very well. I've straight up criticized Tekken and Bandai Namco for years for it's refusal to age their women (including Anna) and fighting games in general double standards when it comes to beauty and what's allowed for men (being old, fat, "ugly" in cases like Necro, one of fav SF characters) and allowed for women (not allowed to look over 30 besides the very rare exception). I've pushed for games to allow women to be fat, old, scary etc for over a decades and I'm not going be dismissed because people have decided "ugly" (yeah don't think I remember the way ERA users acted when Aloy in HFW was announced or Jill in RE3R to know how impossible those standards can be) people should be excluded from video games.

Blah, blah, blah....

You criticized, you pushed for, yadda yadda. But in the end you still went straight for the sexy babes shelf when picking your avatar. 

Cyborg over here acting like they were forced at gunpoint. 

[Boredfrom]

I find The Malds Experience very interesting if you all can’t tell, but if the people are not interested I will keep the findings to myself not a big deal. This is a free market of likes after all and I do have to feed my family 



Also, New kofi goal of $200, all progress reset to 0%

Fuck that post that shit. These faggots chiming with their two cents can fuck off. If they wanna police what people post might i suggest joining reetardera?

No backsies.

[Boredfrom]

Btw, your 3 Tekken characters in your avatar all are very pretty, models even.

If you're really trying to do a weak gotcha here, you don't know me very well. I've straight up criticized Tekken and Bandai Namco for years for it's refusal to age their women (including Anna) and fighting games in general double standards when it comes to beauty and what's allowed for men (being old, fat, "ugly" in cases like Necro, one of fav SF characters) and allowed for women (not allowed to look over 30 besides the very rare exception). I've pushed for games to allow women to be fat, old, scary etc for over a decades and I'm not going be dismissed because people have decided "ugly" (yeah don't think I remember the way ERA users acted when Aloy in HFW was announced or Jill in RE3R to know how impossible those standards can be) people should be excluded from video games.

Blah, blah, blah....

You criticized, you pushed for, yadda yadda. But in the end you still went straight for the sexy babes shelf when picking your avatar. 

Cyborg over here acting like they were forced at gunpoint. 

2 sexy girls and a dude that sounds like a 10 year old.

[ComeAgain]

So now “most” of the very real Japanese people pissed they won’t get to play as a Japanese male samurai…are actually just white Trump supporters 

The absolute lengths they go to defend their bizarre takes, just to feel better.

[Polident]

I haven't played a single asscreed game. Are any of them any good? :v

assassin's creed 2 is good for as long as it's a personal story of vengeance, loses steam toward the end but still cool

assassin's creed black flag is good because pirate simulator

Goes back to the cultural representation deal. Think that plays a role in which of the games you’ll enjoy. The first up until the London one are the same, more or less. The Egypt, Greece, and Viking games are the same. Assassin’s Creed Paris seems considered the worst of the series. But I played through it because running through old Paris and the vibe was nice.

Again it’s one of the factors that bothers people about the Japan game. It’s a top three setting fans have asked for going on 15 years and they’re fumbling it. tbh I believe it’ll sell well off that alone. Even if it’s another broken trash game from Ubisoft.

Somebody post a top of the page…unattractive French lady wearing the same clothes from 2007?

[DavidCroquet]

Japanese people ARE trump supporters, via the transitive property.  Here's some quick references for the uneducated (but remember, that's not my job).

Jewish = white
Japanese = white
Chinese = white when US born and discussing fairness in college admissions

White = Conservative 

Conservative = Trump Supporting Alt-right Nazi KKK Genocider

Ergo, people upset about Shadows are a buncha chud Trumpers.

[D3RANG3D]

I hope it bombs and tanks Ubisoft tbh.

[Uncle]

I haven't played a single asscreed game. Are any of them any good? :v

There's a reason they call it Ubislop. 

If you ignore the negative connotations of "slop" and think of something like...I dunno, a giant hot bowl of oatmeal, it's super accurate. Very filling and hearty, goes down pretty easy, and sometimes it's jazzed up with a lil brown sugar (  ) . 

But future bowls of oatmeal have a rapidly decreasing excitement ceiling, and if it's all you ever eat you'll wanna kill yourself.

also no one should ever play the first game, it's dogshit other than the vibe/mystery of the real world bits

they had so few ideas for what to do with their open world that you literally do "touch the flags" time trials for no reason

[Propagandhim]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/everybody-wants-to-waste-your-time-drew-gooden-video.989289/

Bread and circuses, as they say.

Social media and endless content need as many people engaging as possible for as long as possible in order to make money, which means strategies are developed in order to psychologically pressure you to stick around for longer. One more match, one more episode, one more click. Which is really good for the powers that be because every second we waste like this is time that cannot be spent for organizing or developing healthy relationships.

Just as well, people actively seek out these things as a need for an "escape" without questioning why we live in a world that is so shitty we need video games, Netflix, and Twitter to numb the pain. Ideally, our entertainment should be an enhancement or a treat versus literally the only thing we are looking forward to at the end of the day. Even worse is when this need to escape is compounded with media that is decidedly anti-establishment or anti-capitalist to some degree. People can watch Squid Games or play FFXVI whose politics are compelling you to fight against self-destructive status quos for a better world, but instead they're being used as a disposable "escape." It's both pathetic and insulting really.

I spent 5 minutes total this week on Twitter.  I dont feel like the world is so shitty I need video games and Twitter to "numb the pain".  I don't feel like I'm being lorded over by the "powers that be" and being force-fed their services at the expense of developing healthy relationships.   Entertainment as literally the only thing we are looking forward to at the end of the day?  Nepenthe, this is just you.  That's just your life.  I don't know anyone who lives like this, in fact.   I can't find a single person in my life who just acquiesces to "the powers that be" who have every tendril of the capitalists stuck in their brain, forcing them to live to numb their pain.  All projection.

You might think I'm being hyperbolic, but this kind of learned helplessness that is constantly reinforced on this forum creates people like Melody.  Just depression and cynicism as far as the eye can see.  What is Melody's endgame with the e-begging?  "Help me, if you can." Until the next day.  There's no end to it.  Because at no point do you believe you can help yourself.  That's the same kind of hell life Nepenthe is describing.

[Boredfrom]

AssCreed IV is cool but I hate the whole storyline and the MC. Like it actively made the game worse than just being a Ninja Pirate game.

[DavidCroquet]

I think it'll do just fine.

There are some key factors here:

• People have been clamoring for Japanese AC for ages, but Sony, Koei-Tecmo, and Fromsoft ate Ubisoft's fucking lunch because they waited too long.
  
• So when they finally get around to it, they feel like they need some kind of hook, and land on Yasuke...reasonable, on paper.
  
• The game is probably as 8 out of 10 as any of the modern AssCreeds. 
  

I don't think Yasuke was a "woke" inclusion...just some guys in a room (with no native Japanese present) saying "remember Afro Samurai? that was badass!" and they all inadvertently stepped in shit. The broken torii gate thing is another example of this. 

Is japan even that big of an audience for AC?

[BananaBlast]

Hold up, did Valkyria change their profile pic to "Trans Rights are Human Rights" to spite......uhhhh, I mean.....

Valkyria, please update your profile pic on thebire.net to reflect your true and honest values off site 

[Uncle]

AssCreed IV is cool but I hate the whole storyline and the MC. Like it actively made the game worse than just being a Ninja Pirate game.

I may have been tricked into liking him after awful perpetually angsty teen native american guy

I don't care if he has a reason to be upset, he was just a dick I didn't want to be around

[Ethan]

I haven't played a single asscreed game. Are any of them any good? :v

I'm a sucker for historical tourism and wasting my time clearing up a map so I enjoy them, but others think they're crap.
 

Black flag is probably the most enjoyable for a non initiate. The Ezio trilogy (well II and Brotherhood) are the most beloved among fans, but it's mostly nostalgia (gameplay is from another era).

Origins is probably the best from the RPG era (it still has one of the best open-world maps).

I haven't played a single asscreed game. Are any of them any good? :v

There's a reason they call it Ubislop. 

If you ignore the negative connotations of "slop" and think of something like...I dunno, a giant hot bowl of oatmeal, it's super accurate. Very filling and hearty, goes down pretty easy, and sometimes it's jazzed up with a lil brown sugar (  ) . 

But future bowls of oatmeal have a rapidly decreasing excitement ceiling, and if it's all you ever eat you'll wanna kill yourself.

See, I don't seem to ever get tired of oatmeal, so that's probably why I enjoy Ubislop.

[HaughtyFrank]

I think it'll do just fine.

There are some key factors here:

• People have been clamoring for Japanese AC for ages, but Sony, Koei-Tecmo, and Fromsoft ate Ubisoft's fucking lunch because they waited too long.
  
• So when they finally get around to it, they feel like they need some kind of hook, and land on Yasuke...reasonable, on paper.
  
• The game is probably as 8 out of 10 as any of the modern AssCreeds. 
  

I don't think Yasuke was a "woke" inclusion...just some guys in a room (with no native Japanese present) saying "remember Afro Samurai? that was badass!" and they all inadvertently stepped in shit. The broken torii gate thing is another example of this. 

Is japan even that big of an audience for AC?

Even Vallhalla which imo was a pretty bad game sold really well. I imagine the brand will carry Shadows as well. Although I guess we'll see if it meets Ubisoft's expectations. Outlaws sold okay and that wasn't enough for Ubi.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

I mean

we could just go back to 1-2 page a day instead of 5-10

Less care posting.

[BananaBlast]

My main problem with Assassin's Creed: Japan is that having a black lead and female character as the only playable options just feels way too much like cringe cooperate diversity pandering. It's made much worse by all the rabid, terminally online people who will call you judgmental names for simply being skeptical. 

We all know black people were obviously very rare in feudal Japan, a japanese male protagonist would've fit the overall theme better, and Yasuke was likely chosen simply for a diversity statement. So it's just super odd to see people arguing up and down that this was a completely natural choice unaffected by the political climate.

There's nothing wrong with having a black protagonist, and I do think there are some racist losers who are mad simply because they don't want to see black characters period, but the problem is Yasuke feels like a token minority being used as a shield to levy people's reasonable disappointment of a long awaited game feeling far less authentically japanese than it should've been.

[Cheers]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/tetsuya-nomura-makes-sure-his-protagonists-look-attractive-because-people-don%E2%80%99t-want-to-look-ugly-in-the-game-world-too.989538/

Burka Brigade must be absolute livid reading the replies that thread. Yes, people like to see attractive characters on screen. Obviously, the standards of beauty vary a bit, but generally, people don't like, aesthetically speaking, women with chins so square and chiseled that it'd make Henry Cavil blush. Or women that have a body shape that would impress an NFL linebacker. I'm sure there are people into those sorts of things, as the burka brigade thread shows, but they need to understand that they're in a very small minority.

The clowns have arrived

Yeah, we usually strive for diversity and inclusivity, but people only want to see beautiful characters somehow? This eeriely reminds me of the Aloy hate, and recently Kay that were circulating on Twitter, among other cases.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/tetsuya-nomura-makes-sure-his-protagonists-look-attractive-because-people-don%E2%80%99t-want-to-look-ugly-in-the-game-world-too.989538/post-129166548

So you're saying Aloy and Kay are ugly?

Prominent Burka Brigader upset people like to see traditionally attractive people:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/tetsuya-nomura-makes-sure-his-protagonists-look-attractive-because-people-don%E2%80%99t-want-to-look-ugly-in-the-game-world-too.989538/page-6#post-129168513

Honestly the support this statement is getting me is depressing me. Games can only be power fantasies never try to be anything. Chuds are right; women who don't meet the arbitrary standard are allowed in gaming. Larger women, older women, "manly" women or and any women who has any flaws; get lost (which includes me for 3 out of 4 if those). You don't deserve to be represented because no one wants you, you're not liked and you break normal people's power fantasies and escapism (and let's not pretend that these toxic beauty standards don't affect everyone).

And let's us not even pretend Nomura didn't also mean muscly women either or any scarring either given recent games.

God this thread has ruined my day.

I really don't get the impression people here are serious about disdain or malice towards "ugly" people.

I've seen rhetoric pop up too many times, fighting games being especially bad for it (her arse is part of her character) to buy most of it isn't serious. Especially how little you have to be "flawed" to be ugly.

Again, these people find it so hard to consider that what they find attractive is the severe minority. Then they get upset when people naturally express the majority opinion of liking traditionally attractive designs. The world doesn't revolve around you or have to repress their own interests to spare your feelings and inadequacies.

Read the thread earlier. How infuriating! How dare someone want to escape reality and play as someone attractive!

And echoes makes it seem like if they don’t get their way, nobody should. “So shocked at the comments here” “amazed at the reactions here”

Mother fucker, you are in the minority! But don’t fret, there are plenty of independent games with ugly protagonists.

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/tom-henderson-insider-gaming-ubisoft-cancels-press-previews-of-assassin%E2%80%99s-creed-shadows.990348/page-2#post-129189612

Do they think the US election could affect sales and want to push it afterwards?

[books]

Yall complaining about Melody and Nepnep and wanting new blood but we saw what happened to the Barksdales when a young cat by the name of Marlo showed up.

[Nintex]

I haven't played a single asscreed game. Are any of them any good? :v

Out of the modern ones Odyssey and Origins are pretty great. I liked Odyssey more myself but Origins is less bloated.

From the classics Assassins Creed 2 is probably the all time best.

[Daffy Duck]

I haven't played a single asscreed game. Are any of them any good? :v

assassin's creed 2 is good for as long as it's a personal story of vengeance, loses steam toward the end but still cool

assassin's creed black flag is good because pirate simulator

https://www.resetera.com/threads/tom-henderson-insider-gaming-ubisoft-cancels-press-previews-of-assassin%E2%80%99s-creed-shadows.990348/page-2#post-129189612

Do they think the US election could affect sales and want to push it afterwards?

Either a delay or chuds calling in a threat to the venues or something equally absurd.

This is my fear, that they're being interfered with by a hack or direct physical threat, just because a cancellation of previews seems like a really harsh reaction to a discovery of a bug forcing a delay

These daft cunts ain’t serious are they with these posts? Like, tell me they’re not real…