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[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/is-it-just-me-or-are-left-political-parties-willfully-incompetent.761241/page-2#post-111584727

Been seeing people here say "pragmatic" but it's really that leftists don't want to compromise with fascists, while liberals/capitalists are happy to in western nations built on discrimination, white supremacy, and capitalist hierarchies.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/is-it-just-me-or-are-left-political-parties-willfully-incompetent.761241/page-3#post-111590124

A lot of people in here espousing the views that make me dislike the left so much in recent years.

pragmatism != approving of fascism. Without pragmatism and how partisan modern politics is you will get nothing. the choice isn't healthcare with compromise or healthcare with no compromise. its healthcare with compromise or nothing and i say you go for the compromise (with exceptions of course) then heavily campaign to undo the compromises after the big change is in place.

of course we all have a different level of acceptable compromise.

While it is true that the act of pragmatism, in and of itself, is not inherently an approval of fascist or otherwise authoritarian and conservative tendencies, the practical context of such compromises by the left leaning party- historically- have been at the expense of people of color, women, and queer folks. This is inevitable if you find it necessary to work with fascist opposition to get something, and whether or not you do it willingly does nothing for the people who are at the wrong end of the barrel of these compromises. And if your compromises are on the basis of civil rights, under what banner can you reasonably call yourself an ally of the marginalized?