05-09-2025, 11:20 PM
I like how many people think arguments are about gotchas that they jump to this kind of thing when it's not actually any kind of counterargument:
1. The existence of a third gender doesn't say anything about whether or not people can identify into genders at will absent cultural and social construction, it's a non-sequitur.
2. These examples are almost entirely all males who do not fit masculine stereotypes and being classified into some lesser caste, which is problematic to say the least.
3. Even despite that never are they classified as women and never on their own say so.
4. Other societies, especially ones from 4000 years ago, do not bind our society.
5. The original claim is that trans women led the fight for women's rights, which was mostly around about a century ago, so whatever some culture from millennia ago did with their effeminate males doesn't really speak to this claim in any direction.
1. The existence of a third gender doesn't say anything about whether or not people can identify into genders at will absent cultural and social construction, it's a non-sequitur.
2. These examples are almost entirely all males who do not fit masculine stereotypes and being classified into some lesser caste, which is problematic to say the least.
3. Even despite that never are they classified as women and never on their own say so.
4. Other societies, especially ones from 4000 years ago, do not bind our society.
5. The original claim is that trans women led the fight for women's rights, which was mostly around about a century ago, so whatever some culture from millennia ago did with their effeminate males doesn't really speak to this claim in any direction.
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