06-11-2025, 12:22 AM
(06-10-2025, 09:10 PM)Uncle wrote:(06-10-2025, 08:39 PM)Potato wrote: American patriotism is over the top and embarrassing. In fact, all patriotism is embarrassing.
anti-patriotism and constant self-flagellation over how eeeeeevil some ancient dudes were when they colonized or whatever is equally embarrassing
you're not your ancestors, grow a fucking backbone
it's not really even about patriotism, it's about not being filled with useless self-doubt and self-deprecation and bending over backwards for people eager to take advantage of you
"you need to constantly apologize for your race and culture but also no amount of apologies will ever be enough, reparations now!!"
I think you've misunderstood me. I'm a child of migrants, so the whole self-loathing thing is lost on me. I have no guilt about what other people did in the past.
Patriotism and the really embarrassing overt patriotism of the US are just dumb. I'm clearly very proud of being Australian and the things we as a nation have achieved, but I don't need to wave a flag and use the flag as a coercion tool to force someone else to behave in a way that's acceptable to me. I'm also happy to acknowledge our mistakes as a nation.
Patriotism to me is uncritical devotion to a nation. That's fucking retarded no matter which nation we're taking about.
It's possible to appreciate your country without being a moron.
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