(06-11-2025, 11:04 PM)benji wrote:(06-11-2025, 07:15 PM)Himu wrote: Though America has no chance of becoming monarch, look at what FDR was capable of achieving through a long-term vision through winning four times. America needs to rescind the 22nd amendment for its health and prosperity. The 22nd only guarantees short-term thinking for our problems rather than actually solving them.This is completely ahistorical as well. FDR didn't do any long term planning at all. The New Deal failed and was based around short-term rewarding of political groups. FDR literally set prices by lucky numbers AND made it illegal to charge lower prices while people were starving. The government deliberately destroyed massive amounts of food while people were starving. Social Security is a Ponzi scheme that's needed to have its taxes increased massively multiple times and it's still failing. He tried to pack the court for undermining his fascist plans. He seized people's wealth by fiat and made it illegal to own gold. All of the New Deal was during FDR's first term, he didn't have "accomplishments" in his later terms. He didn't even live to see his fourth term.
(06-11-2025, 07:51 PM)Himu wrote: Jesus says to render unto Caesar which means to subjugate yourself to your nations laws and one of our laws is that immigration that is not vetted is illegal. Other nations have similar laws. The punishment for immigrating illegally is deportation. Frankly deportation is a moderate response.This is circular reasoning.
(06-11-2025, 08:17 PM)Himu wrote: Benji you have to admit it's based.No, I don't because it's not. Monarchs weren't accountable to the people. They definitely don't limit government. Limited government is about what government undertakes, not how many people make decisions.
You just keep writing fantasies. I asked you to supply an example in the world currently and you didn't. I asked you to supply an example historically and you've just kept giving me fantasies instead of any that actually happened. You couldn't even reach for the handful of enlightened monarchs in history who weren't complete failures.
You're not saying anything new, I've read the apologia for monarchism you're regurgitating, it was purely theoretical when it was argued the first times. None of this shit has ever been true. No elections doesn't end politics, it just obscures it while further protecting the craven and corrupt. And that's why any argument against democracy fails. It's exactly like Churchill said.
You were were asked what you meant, a mere declaration of terms and definitions, and you couldn't answer. Now you deflect, quoting a man that represented a Constitutional Monarchy in itself all while saying there was never an example of good monarchy. You also use the books of the victors of Democracies and Republics, who have all the incentive to defame monarchies as history is written by the victors. Yet monarchies were used for thousands of years and arguably is our default political system as humans. Monarchy is good and better for society.