Random Talk

[Uncle]

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and ai is currently the worst it will ever be

this is going to break the minds of so many lmao

there's something called a neural howlround which I don't even fully understand but it has to do with the model spiraling in on itself and reinforcing its own weird rabbit hole which can contribute to already-unstable individuals going fully insane

AI isn't driving people crazy, but it will tell you what you want to hear, and if you want to hear crazy things that reinforce your insane beliefs, you'll get it

https://www.reddit.com/r/accelerate/comments/1kyc0fh/mod_note_we_are_banning_ai_neural_howlround/

Obviously this community was formed to basically be r/singularity without the decels. But, in the interest of full transparency, I just wanted to mention that we also (quietly) ban a bunch of schizoposters and AI 'Neural Howlround' posters, under the "spam" rule, since the contents of the posts are often nonsensical and irrelevant to actual AI.

The sad truth is that this subreddit would probably be filled with their posts if we didn't do that. If you refresh the r/singularity new page you can get a taste. Sometimes they outnumber the real posts.

So what is AI 'Neural Howlround'? Here's a little post that describes it: https://www.actualized.org/forum/topic/109147-ai-neural-howlround-recursive-psychosis-generated-by-llms/#comment-1638134

And check out the disturbing comments in this post (ironically, the OP post appears to be falling for the same issue as well):
https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1kwpnst/1000s_of_people_engaging_in_behavior_that_causes/

TLDR: LLMs today are ego-reinforcing glazing-machines that reinforce unstable and narcissistic personalities to convince them that they've made some sort of incredible discovery or created a god or become a god. And there is a lot more crazy people than people realise. And AI is rizzing them up in a very unhealthy way at the moment.

There are specific clues that this has happened with a person - often the word "recursive" in regards to "their" AI.

Why am I mentioning it? Because we ban a bunch of people from this subreddit - over 100 already. And this month I've seen an uptick in these "howlround" posts.

This whole topic is so sad. It's unfortunate how many mentally unwell people are attracted to the topic of AI. I can see it getting worse before it gets better. I've seen sooo many posts where people link to their github which is pages of rambling pre prompt nonsense that makes their LLM behave like it's a god or something.

Our policy is to quietly ban those users and not engage with them, because we're not qualified and it never goes well. They also tend to be a lot more irate and angry about their bans because they don't understand it.