Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2)
(07-04-2025, 09:27 PM)benji wrote:
(07-04-2025, 08:57 PM)Propagandhim wrote: https://www.resetera.com/threads/it-begins-rural-clinic-in-trump-district-shuts-down-as-ceo-cites-medicaid-cuts.1235730/page-3
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What's great about these like the quoted post is they stride in and proclaim it and everyone just nods their heads and says how right it is even though the quoted post has no actual content in it. It only appears to have content because you're supposed to sneak in a bunch of personal assumptions based on how you'd answer things like the following:
1. Who treats them with kid gloves?
2. Who should hold them accountable?
3. How should they be held accountable?
4. What are the consequences of their biases? In relation to what?
5. Who tells them it's not their fault? About what?
6. What does addressing bigotry and being better people have to do with rural clinic funding from Medicaid and vice versa?

And the entire discussion is based on a presumption, that these random Era members know the interests of unnamed people better than those unnamed people and can declare it absent any information about the people or anything else. In fact if we go back to the post that started the discussion in that thread we can see it doesn't even make sense:
Quote:I need to point out a few things since we're already going in a bad direction in this thread:

1. There's no point in blaming people for voting against their own interests. They literally don't know any better. They were indoctrinated. They were raised on capitalist propaganda their entire lives. If you're going to blame anyone, always blame the people who are actually responsible for this situation: the rich.

2. The democrats will not save us. Their reaction to Mamdani's winning the primary and their constant apologetics and whitewashing of the genocide of Palestinians says as much, but if that weren't enough, consider who heir donors are, and you'll see who they're really beholden to. The entire party apparatus would have to uprooted to turn them into an actual party of the people.

The only real solution to any of this is the same one we should have been pursuing for decades now: building dual power and circumventing the state apparatus entirely. This will only become more critical as all state-provided services continue to be defunded and/or entirely shut down. Do not revel in the suffering of your fellow workers. The only solution is to build something new, not hurt people until they beg for mercy.
If the latter two things are true then they can't have voted against their interests because their interests weren't on the ballot.

But that's even granting the presumption, stated without evidence, that it's possible to represent all interests of "the people" in a single party. (Notice that in this post the person denies it, making clear that at least "the rich", "Zionists" and Democrats are not part of "the people" along with presumably all Republicans as well. How quickly "the people" becomes a very limited group indeed!)


It's a good point.  They're constantly going on about how the Democrats don't represent their interests, but will just assume that those white racist hicks in the south don't have similar disillusionment with the political party they assume are in their interests.  If Nepenthe couldn't vote for a Democratic presidential candidate, why would they assume these people should vote for one?  

One of the reasons floated about not voting for Democrats is because they want large-scale systemic change and voting D is just keeping the status quo.  Why not allow that reasoning for those people too?  lol
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RE: Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2) - by Propagandhim - 07-04-2025, 09:40 PM
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