07-17-2025, 03:50 PM
https://www.resetera.com/threads/variety-a-new-day-for-dc-breaking-down-%E2%80%98superman%E2%80%99-salaries-budgets-and-more-as-studio-fast-tracks-%E2%80%98wonder-woman%E2%80%99-and-its-future.1245264/page-6#post-142775532 wrote:Quote:Also, I'm waiting for Gunn to say "that's totally not Israel/Palestine!", because there's some absolutely unhinged comments about it from the likes of Betar.He actually already did before the movie came out. He also finished the script before the conflict reignited so I don't really know how intentional it really is
https://variety.com/2025/film/news/superman-israel-palestine-debate-1236462737/ wrote:As reported by Variety: "Pro-Palestinian activists and influencers are hailing the film on social media for what they see as an overt rebuke of Israel in the wake of its deadly military campaign in Gaza… However, the timeline might not align with Israel as a stand-in for Bovaria. Gunn turned in his script in May 2023, months before the current Israel-Gaza conflict escalated."
For what it's worth, Gunn addressed the matter before "Superman" even opened in theaters. A few days before release, the writer-director told The Times of London: "When I wrote this the Middle Eastern conflict wasn't happening. So I tried to do little things to move it away from that, but it doesn't have anything to do with the Middle East. It's an invasion by a much more powerful country run by a despot into a country that's problematic in terms of its political history, but has totally no defense against the other country. It really is fictional."
Quote:The "conflict" didn't start in 2023.
Quote:The fact that more people are aware of what Israel has been doing post-October 7 doesn't mean that no one was aware prior to that.
This movie is proof that Gunn was one of those people.
James Gunn: "Its not intentionally that"
JeffMarvel: "Factually incorrect, bears beets battlestar galactica"
Quote:Quote:I'd be a bit surprised if he made a decidedly Anti-Israel movie but then lies about it in interviews.
Then you haven't been paying attention to what can happen to openly anti-genocide voices in this country.
Quote:Quote:I'd say it's more that he made a movie about brutal and cruel governments and Israel falls right into that.
Gunn was liking pro-Palestine posts on social media before October 2023 and the movie's description of the country and it's relationship with the US make it undeniably obvious that it is a stand-in for Israel.
He simply can't say it out loud because he likes his job.
zerovagine has gone full Hasanbara over capeshit
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