10-03-2025, 11:02 PM
(10-03-2025, 09:07 PM)benji wrote:the context is dana made a cartoon about a space princess where one of the characters is a tomboy cis woman and the bluesky goons are upset the character isnt a trans woman. something about trans misogyny and trans erasure(10-03-2025, 12:24 AM)simiansmarts wrote:1. "it's very telling that people just don't see trans women as a type of women at all" (reasonable statement)
2. "yes, trans women are women but more importantly they're something else" (I disagree, but still reasonable statement)
3. "they're not real" (WTF? WHERE DID THIS COME FROM?!?)
4. "cis women are always more correct and righteous in comparison" (ALSO DOESN'T FOLLOW FROM PREVIOUS?!?)
Then just reword the second tweet like this to see if he'd get away with this otherwise:
"it's sort of a microcosm of how men are treated in general by our society, few men who expressed their disappointment to a popular woman, some more rudely than others treated as attacking, harassing that woman with vastly more power and influence"
And after reading all three tweets I'm still wondering where the "they're not real" part comes into any of this. Or where this conclusion comes from. Assume for the sake of argument that everything else he says is right, this Dana chick is wrong for telling these men they're being jerks. At what point is she treating them as "not real"? She's openly acknowledging you are real by criticizing you for acting the way you are. IGNORING YOU would be closer to treating you as not real, although it'd be entirely reasonable if she's being harassed by men in my opinion. Telling you you're shitty is seeing you as real, shitty people are real. For example, yourself.
It's so obvious how all these people are just manipulators who immediately escalate their accusations to the greatest level and creating giant thickets of language because they stupidly think that's the way to manipulate people into doing what they want. It works really well as can be seen from looking at their accounts where all they do is cry about nobody does what they want.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_of_Guinevere
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