Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2)

[benji]

https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/1o1ay9x/old_clip_of_hasan_piker_telling_a_dog_to_stay_or/

the pulling by the tail is worse than threatening to kill it

Yeah, not going to read Nazi shit, going to go straight for the facts:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hasan_Piker/comments/1o38gce/this_comment_perfectly_captures_the_absurdity_of/

RestaurantComplete54
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9h ago
It's the most astroturfed drama in the history of astroturfed dramas, Elon is quiet but bet your ass he's in on it too. He put it as a headline on X.

Specialist-Gur
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8h ago
Sounds like Zionists tbh.. twisting themselves into pretzels to believe something absurd

Things you have to believe to be a Zionist

• 3000 year biblical history makes you indigenous but ongoing presence in a region does not
  
• Every single Palestinian is lying about their suffering or grossly exaggerating it
  
• All the journalists reporting on it are biased and antisemitic
  
• every genocide scholar including the Jewish ones are antisemitic
  
• The mass of activists are just trying to win a popularity contest despite... getting fired from their jobs and getting harassed and arrested?
  
• October 7th is uniquely evil and justified everything since then
  
• Liberal Zionism will save us if we are critical of Bibi it'll all go away
  
• Disliking West Bank settlements but opposing all efforts to dismantle them is cool and normal.. etc.
  
  

I mean the logic is entirely the same and lacking here

MikeJ91
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7h ago
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If the normies knew how long and convoluted a journey it's been with Hasan and his psychotic band of haters manufacturing smear campaigns on a monthly basis, they might have a clearer idea what's going on. Hasan was right, this happens every time he gets some mainstream attention, this time it was the French GP event.

APraxisPanda
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7h ago
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This is just happening because a majority of people now consider whats happening in Palestine to be a genocide, so calling Hasan a lier about his Palestine coverage no longer gains momentum, and actually makes him seem pretty on the ball. So now they are pivoting to something else everyone hates: dog abuse. It's all a made up situation, I don't think the people crying about this even care- they just want something to stick. But like- if you gotta lie about why you hate Hasan, how do you know you don't hate him based on lies to begin with?

AffectionateSlip8990
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4h ago
That’s why they rely on bots and the media to try to make it look worse than it is. I bet a lot of those people didn’t even see the clip or his explanation.

orteRRetro
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23m ago
People are doing Olympic gold medal levels of mental gymnastics to make this make sense. If you’re interacting with anyone who still believes this mess you’re talking to a Zionist or a P3DO or a racist maybe a mix but either way it’s not worth the mental anguish.

Okay, but I need a few more facts:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hasan_Piker/comments/1o3hery/the_reputation_damage_has_already_been_done_its/

gontgont
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2h ago
The reach and intensity of this silly drama could have a silver lining. Normies became so tired of seeing it everywhere - it may open their eyes to the astroturfing and manufactured outrage.

No-Net-4661
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2h ago
I think the best way to counter this narrative is to flood the zone with tons of happy Kaya clips. There is no point in arguing with people who want to be mad. The truth always comes to light. So let them look dumb as hell while shining a light on the truth.

edman9677
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50m ago
It’s definitely a botted campaign. Saw it a fucking Sopranos subreddit. It’s just getting mass posted to slander. I can guess multiple sources for the bots but it’s very obviously not authentic

kururong
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2h ago
I also saw a post about that on Genshite (there's a character called Kaeya there). The gacha community is really infested with right wing guys and pedos, that they are now currently downvoting/banning a lot of people who are posting that is queer coded or anti-rightwing stuff (they recently banned a post about a VA who came out as a Kirk fan). I think those places help me lot to quit my last remaining gacha (will just get the free character, and support the VA and the queen subs and quit).

edman9677
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58m ago
This is likely a mod acting on his own who already didn’t like Hasan so now has a made up excuse to do something stupid like this. This whole thing will fade but it did show certain people their true colors as bad faith actors. The whole thing has been proven as a lie yet these idiots just keep on moving the goal post to confirm their biases

NoPickles
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39m ago
The communities that hate Hasan so much are also one of his biggest promotors. They post about him and overblow any drama and just expose him to a bigger audience. Yes a person who first learns about Hasan from this drama will have a negative view but if they keep hearing about him a percentage even if it's a small percentage could listen to one of his takes on a topic that impacts their life directly. They will listen to a take you can't hear from any mainstream show or political commentator and be drawn in.

if you advocate for the people's best interest, if you call out the people adding suffering to their life you can and will gain support.

Specialist-Gur
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9m ago
I feel like some normies even have to be weirded out and skeptical of this . I know people are very sensitive to anything involving animals but "normies" also are sometimes capable of critical thought...

Maybe I'm biased based on how I operate... even when Ethan Klein was accused of something I always looked up evidence to verify and scrapped plenty of things that seemed shaky and weird. I think some normies are inclined to do that too? Idk...