Kulturkampf

[benji]

all of western intelligence knew about the attacks before they happened. the israelis sent a team to film it in person. european agencies tried to report  it ahead of time and were ignored. 

the official narrative is that the fbi and cia weren't sharing info(lol if you believe that), or that no one would have ever thought they would fly the planes into buildings. reason being that in the past hijackers would only take hostages. this falls apart when we found out there were mossad bois sent to film the towers going down. if the israelis knew, then the U.S. intel agencies also knew. there isn't much of anything one side knows that the other doesn't. israeli and U.S. intel go hand in hand. 

at the very least the people who's entire job is to stop terrorists attacks like 9/11 knew ahead of time and stood down. 


when the october 7th attack happened. it was the exact same playbook. there are idf officers who say they were told to stand down and not do their jobs guarding the border. the sophistication of the israeli defense along their borders and the goofyness of the attack, it's ridiculous to believe hamas was just so brilliant and unstoppable.

we were lied into war with iraq. 

"saddam 1000% has weapons of mass destruction, bros" -source trust me, bro lol


but somehow it's impossible we were lied to about what exactly went down both leading up to and on the day of september 11th 2001

See, you're doing other Creationist methods too. You're not even arguing the point you're supposed to be arguing, you've backed off the bailey to the motte that was never argued against in the first place. Then gish-galloping.

People like Cenk, or Alex Jones, or the bulk of 9/11 accusations including in your own post above tries to make a strong claim, an assertion, not merely a negative distrust of any official story or any collectively accepted story. It doesn't simply try to say "the government isn't telling the full story" instead it attempts to construct an alternative story for which there typically is absolutely no evidence, let alone good evidence (let alone extraordinary evidence for the extraordinary claims) and is even harder to believe than either the government's story or the collectively accepted one.

These assertions often, almost always I would say, ignore inconvenient facts. You know what's part of the official/collective narrative? That the government knew. The federal government admitting this is in the 9/11 Commission Report aka the official story. They knew al Qaeda members on multiple watchlists were trying to learn to fly planes without learning to land them. One reason they knew instantly who did it was because they knew all the names and connected the dots from all the information they already had. That's why they scooped up the "19th hijacker" immediately. Also al Qaeda had been targeting and attempting to use planes for mass attacks since 1995.

Instead of keeping to this acknowledged by the official story fact, you (and Cenk and Alex) feel the need to construct a story you can believe that affirms your priors. That the government is hyper competent and evil but also so incompetent that any idiot can figure this out from a handful of random trivia and also nobody ever betrays it even as its evil plans are constantly exposed by random idiots. In your theory the government can't even be incompetent, it has to be hyper competent and instead they have to "let it happen" even though there's no reason for this and you don't have an explanation for why other than your priors.

Again, same as Creationists. They can't accept a world that's not planned billions thousands of years ago by the perfect being. Everything has to be explained by this or else there's no point at all. Even a more defensible version of this premise, that God spun things up for fun and stopped paying attention before humans even appeared violates the prior: that humans are created in God's image. That the person matters by cosmic direction. The person needs this to be true and so all theories must confirm it or else the version feels a loss of self. Same with conspiracy theories who also believe they are privileged to not just exclusive information but the secret cosmic meaning of everything that happens in the world. Anyone who doesn't see God's Mossad's plan in everything just strays from the light.

Same crutch: someone must be in control. The world must be ordered by someone's design (and only makes sense if you force it to) and anything else literally does not make sense.

It's a self-justification like with religions, a demonstration of one's fealty to the greater faith. It's not about convincing others or even anything actionable about the powers that actually move reality, it's about a demonstration of piety to other believers. Those who speak in the language of the faith. The non-believer is the foil for strengthening group solidarity by producing an outsider unspoken in the ways of the faith whose mere existence is hostile by threatening the believers way of life. You can dismiss them because they don't engage in the rituals of the community.