(10-19-2023, 09:37 PM)HaughtyFrank wrote:In the Netherlands the press is very pro-Hamas. Just frothing at the mouth about the hospital story still looking for ways to blame Israel. Folks were waving a Taliban flag in the city of Utrecht unchallenged today. The Green/Labour coalition has announced they regret backing a motion that condemned the terrorist attacks earlier this week.
I wonder if these recent anti-israel protests in Germany will cause a cultural shift. Right wing is basically going "I told you so" while even politicians from the refugee friendly Green party talk about deporting Hamas sympathizers
At this point political parties are about 50/50 split between pro-Hamas and pro-Israel. I would say. Some more vocal than others and for different reasons. The elections are in a month, I've got a feeling we're either going to turn hard right and Wilders will defy expectations or hard left and Timmermans wins. It doesn't help that for many candidates this is personal. Our current justice minister and leader of the ruling party is a Turkish Kurd that hates the Islamists. The Green/Labour coalition has a lot of self-declared Salafists and left-wing activists in their ranks. Wilders has been the anti-Islam and pro-Israel voice for a long time.
Honestly, between images of Israeli tanks rampaging through Gaza and bombed out buildings, the MSM only focusing on Timmermans and the left promising a higher minimum wage I can see Timmermans win. His diplomatic background and EU postings certainly give him an edge on this topic. People who wouldn't vote for him over not backing Israel enough, wouldn't have voted for him anyway. I dislike everything he stands for but I have to admit he's a skilled politician and campaigner.
The big difference between Germany and the Netherlands is of course the history of WW2. To not upset the Muslims too much the history of the Holocaust hasn't been taught to current generations like before. The focus has been more on slavery and white guilt. Even the Holocaust remembrance days have been hijacked by messages about the climate, LGTBQ+ rights and various other conflicts and wars, including the Indonesian war of independence.