Why logical arguments are bad arguments

[Uncle]

Most ‘logical’ arguments on the internet are semantic arguments, and the debate ‘rules’ around fallacies are largely a load of sophist horseshit.

well, I also don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater, because some people gleefully dive into fallacies and are just so, so dumb

they will say things like "you can't call my argument a strawman like pulling a red card on a play, this isn't a formal debate, you won't earn points or anything"

but calling argument is a strawman is shorthand for "you've misrepresented my words in the worst possible light, whether because you have abysmal literacy or are actually not willing to discuss this in good faith," and you can either type all that out, or just call it a strawman

people can inherently identify fallacies and call them out in other ways without using the actual words like "ad hominem," and we're at the point where idiots have developed the knee-jerk opposite response that calling out a fallacy is now what "loses you points" and gives them the right to continue attacking a person rather than their arguments etc.