02-29-2024, 08:37 AM
(02-28-2024, 10:01 PM)benji wrote:(02-28-2024, 09:37 PM)HaughtyFrank wrote: ^What's amazing regarding the NYT anecdote is that these are exactly the kind of clowns who'd snap their fingers in disapproval of chick-fila and now they're pretending that no one would ever do that. Even more amazing that grown ass journalists can't be bothered to actually do any journalismOne thing I've found really remarkable over the last, say, decade is how many journalists spend all day on Twitter making strongly declarative wrong statements about something, never backing down and it just seeming like it never happened. All for clout with other Twitter "leftists" who do the same. I don't even mean "reactions" like this, they're often making "clear" predictions they're always wrong about. Whether it was that guy who was one of Vox's top people saying for years that Trump was going to arrest him or how many declared Johnny Depp's case meant that there would be a wave of incels suing women for billions of dollars. Everything they tweeted during COVID, maybe the pinnacle being the NYT's lead COVID reporter posting false medical statements and declaring it "racist" to question all sorts of things that were often obviously false. There's really too many examples. Michael Hobbes and Ben Collins constantly posting outright lies and false statements even as they're touted as "disinformation fighters" and so on. Taylor Lorenz is really harmless compared to a lot of this. (You can see the same thing in things like games journalism or media journalism but that's even more lower stakes.)
Yet none of them ever seem to suffer any consequences other than when the companies they work for go bankrupt. Or they go insane and flee Twitter like Ben Collins.
Then it's all the rest of our fault that journalists are some of the least trusted people.
Dunno if you guys can access this, but in some of Jon Ronsons (guy who did the TED talk on 'cancel culture is bad, actually) promos for his new radio show / podcast about Culture Warzzz he talked about having lunch with Matt & Trey from South Park and why they don't use social media, and they basically said if you have a respected journalist on MSNBC or whatever with their own show (they gave an example but cant remember who it was) theres a whole team of researchers and fact checkers and editors and shit and a bunch of money from the network all working together to create that trustworthy and informed brand, but the second you drop a retarded take on twitter all of that goes out the window and youre just another dumbfuck spouting off on the internet

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