10-02-2024, 02:44 PM
That is what Walz should've been hitting him on. Vance was lying his ass off (Trump SAVED obamacare 
) and I wish Walz had pressed him on the lies that really would hurt him...like the J6 thing at the very end.
But most of the time Walz was channeling wish.com Biden. Once he got caught out in his Tienamen protest thing, the wind was fully out of his sails...sure, it doesn't matter, but you can't answer/deflect/contextualize/whatever better than that?!
I think I bought the hype too much in both directions: Walz as some masterful operator and Vance as a total fuckup. Turns out neither thing manifested in the debate.
I will say it sounded a lot like Vance was positioning himself as a presidential candidate. Lots of deviations from the Trump party platform. I thought his abortion answers were really good--even though, again, he's probably lying--and am amazed at how Democrats just left such an obvious positive message on the table (that they are way more likely to actually implement).
) and I wish Walz had pressed him on the lies that really would hurt him...like the J6 thing at the very end.But most of the time Walz was channeling wish.com Biden. Once he got caught out in his Tienamen protest thing, the wind was fully out of his sails...sure, it doesn't matter, but you can't answer/deflect/contextualize/whatever better than that?!
I think I bought the hype too much in both directions: Walz as some masterful operator and Vance as a total fuckup. Turns out neither thing manifested in the debate.
I will say it sounded a lot like Vance was positioning himself as a presidential candidate. Lots of deviations from the Trump party platform. I thought his abortion answers were really good--even though, again, he's probably lying--and am amazed at how Democrats just left such an obvious positive message on the table (that they are way more likely to actually implement).