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[benji]

Defund fire departments. They aren't supposed to be the first respondents for every damn thing and they certainly need to keep their traps shut about bike lanes and people being and to but homes on smaller lots.

Fewer than 4% of the calls they're showing up for are fire related? Nah. Time to break that shit up.

Don't the not get paid part one of the main issues why a lot of volunteers fire departments are a dying breed, since most ppl living paycheck to paycheck simply can't take time off for shifts or emergency calls?

Employers can be required to let people take time off with full pay for their fire duties. It's obviously not something that can be implemented in a month or two but with the proper legislation passed it should be possible to build up effective volunteer fire departments and do away with most full time professional ones.

Rings true - my facist neighbor three doors down was having a heart attack or something and they had a giant fire truck parked outside his house ready to put it out with water.

There were likely trained paramedics there along with a fire department ambulance.

Situation didn't require a giant fire truck taking up half the block - plenty of other ways to transport paramedics.

Defund firefighters? No, ABOLISH FIRE FIGHTERS. You centrists are why we're getting fascism.

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You clearly didn't click the link and read the article. In many countries 80% or more of firefighters are volunteers, so its obviously a functioning way to organize firefighting.

The "article" is an entire Wikipedia page so no I didn't read the whole thing. Feel free to point out the important bits.

[benji]

ZeoVGM defends Queen Taylor:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/courtney-love-apparently-doesnt-like-taylor-swift-beyonce-lana-del-rey-and-madonna-for-various-reasons.844881/page-2?post=121737699#post-121737699

They aren't her haha, she's right about Taylor not being interesting though IMO, but people like the music and the performance so there's gotta be something there. Not everyone needs to be counterculture or seek to disrupt. To say she's not important though, that's not true at least as it pertains to right now. Are people going to herald her as an icon generationally the same way they seem to do a band like Nirvana,? I doubt it, but that's rarified air, and even Nirvana might lose popularity over the next 50 years, it's only been 30 years since Cobain died, that is nothing timewise. As far as popularity/ubiquity, Swift is the Nirvana of today.

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

We need a volunteer fire department where we draw lots at the beginning of the year.

If you refuse to do your duty you are killed.

[benji]

Maybe build things so they don't burn. Ever think of that instead of supporting the status quo of BIG FIRE DEPARTMENT?

[benji]

Why do you need fire in the first place? Maybe leave that to the artists who understand the meaning of fire? You capitalists and your incessant need for "growth" instead of caring about the people most effected by this "everyone should have machines to make fire" capitalist horseshit.

[Boredfrom]

What happened to BabyDontHurtMe's Palestine avatar? I guess 6 months is enough to show solidarity. 

Smiling Friends S2



Is a "CHUD" show, btw. 

[Potato]

It's literally a citation in the Wikipedia article I posted.



Now, granted, the quote is referring to the Jewish forces, but in 1948 pretty much any able bodied person in Israel, men and women, were pressed into service to fight the forces massed against them. There's no "sweeping them into the sea" without outright genocide.

Uh, that's very boilerplate war rhetoric and hardly a rebuttal to the wild and remarkably insulting statement that "All the surrounding Arab countries banded together with the mission statement to 'drive the Jews into the sea.'"

Yeah obviously they want to win the war. That's hardly some declaration of genocide though I imagine some people want to draw similar analogies these days out of desperation.

That's right, brother! River to the sea DOESN'T mean genocide! Our Muslim brothers will gently relocate the murderous Jews! TELL THEM! 

Maybe they were just going to indiscriminately murder every last Jew, NOT systematically murder them. There's a difference chud. You should ask plagiarize.

[Potato]

To be a fly on the wall of the PoliEra discord right now.

Poor Zeliard is the target of their next banbait attempt. 

Paging Pwnz. Paging Pwnz.

Give us the inside scoop.

[benji]

Can you guys stop tone policing the Arab states of 1948 acting against their oppressors?

[Boredfrom]

After what the US and UK did to Iran, its desire to drive Western influence out of the region is understandable and justified, even though I don't agree with everything their government does.

 

Flying to close to “Osama Bin Laden was right”.

[benji]

Why would you think that's Iran's desire? Especially considering how often Iran deliberately acts to invite Western influence into the region like with its attacks. Sounds like projection.

[benji]

Are you denying the terroristic activities of the PoliEra discord group?! 

THEY DOXXED A QUEER POC WOMAN 

Speaking of. It's been a month now. No contact from the local police departments following up on Nepenthe's police reports.

As if you need more evidence the cis don't care and cops aren't to be trusted.

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

You all just don't understand. Iran is based now because they attacked Israel. It's not that deep. 

Being Anti Israel is the new Punk.

[Boredfrom]

Here is a statement by Dr. Fadhil Jamali, Iraqi Representative to the United Nations, speaking to the Arab League, February 6, 1955:

I asked them (Arab League members) how Palestine was lost. It had been lost for two basic reasons: one, because we deluded ourselves by underestimating the power of our opponent and by thinking that the Jews were not powerful. The highest official in the League said that with 300 soldiers or North African Volunteers we could throw the Jews into the sea. The war started and His Excellency then said that with 3,000 North African Volunteers we could throw them into the sea. The second reason was that we thought that we were strong enough to face the world but the fact was that we did not estimate our own strength correctly. This then was the issue of Palestine. It seemed a trifling thing at the time but we did not know that behind the Jews of Palestine stood World Zionism with its resources in every major country

Jesus, holy shit.

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

Are you denying the terroristic activities of the PoliEra discord group?! 

THEY DOXXED A QUEER POC WOMAN 

Speaking of. It's been a month now. No contact from the local police departments following up on Nepenthe's police reports.

As if you need more evidence the cis don't care and cops aren't to be trusted.

I imagine there was no police report. B-dubs just needed to invoke the word for justification to begin the PoliEra purge.

Inshallah, all of PoliEra will be REMOVED from the Era!

[benji]

Here is a statement by Dr. Fadhil Jamali, Iraqi Representative to the United Nations, speaking to the Arab League, February 6, 1955:

I asked them (Arab League members) how Palestine was lost. It had been lost for two basic reasons: one, because we deluded ourselves by underestimating the power of our opponent and by thinking that the Jews were not powerful. The highest official in the League said that with 300 soldiers or North African Volunteers we could throw the Jews into the sea. The war started and His Excellency then said that with 3,000 North African Volunteers we could throw them into the sea. The second reason was that we thought that we were strong enough to face the world but the fact was that we did not estimate our own strength correctly. This then was the issue of Palestine. It seemed a trifling thing at the time but we did not know that behind the Jews of Palestine stood World Zionism with its resources in every major country

Can the staff do something about this PoliEra Discord agent quoting things out of context to dismiss concerns in a sensitive thread?!?

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

No one here is part of the PoliEra discord, RIGHT?!

[benji]

Biden's refusal to eliminate Israel has shown up in the far-right fascist NYT's latest push poll:

65+ biggest support 




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[benji]

The way I see it, Iran has out played Israel to an embarrassing level. They patiently and respectfully showed Israel that they can reach out and touch them whenever they want. They defeated the Iron Dome (lol), and proved that without a large coalition put together by the US, Iran could rain drones and missiles on Israel all day, everyday.

Obviously the US has no red line for Palestinian genocide, but the minute Israel tries to pull the US into a reginal war the infinite ammo and arms hose is getting turned off.

Israel is a pariah state, I doubt it exist in its current form by 2040.

I think one big thing some of yall are over looking is that war is a constant financial equation. This strike by Iran cost them what a few million? Everything they shot was super basic economy stuff. Compare that to the response needed to counter it, the US and Israel spent about a billion dollars in one night. Also Iran told them when to expect this attack. Iran was not looking to cause major damage or casualties, they wont risk open war with a major ally of the US. Along those same lines, I don't think the US has any appetite for a war of any kind, especially with a major Middle Eastern power. This was a measured response to the gross bombing of an embassy. The message is simple, stop with the open acts of war, lets continue with our shadow war.

What I mean about Israel not existing in its current form anymore is not the annihilation of the country, but that in the eyes of the world they have crossed a line of no return, and will continue to loose support and allies until they are forced to make a change similar to how South Africa was in the 90's. While at this moment Zionism still has a lot of western support, I don't think it can recover from what it has done.

Still, we're talking $50 million - $200 million vs half a billion or a billion depending on who you want to quote. The Israeli government said a billion. And again, without HEAVY US intervention this would have been ugly for Israel. Israel keeps digging this hole, eventually people will not have their back. They are unhinged.

I feel the MSM is hiding the fact that Israel attacked the Iranian embassy first. A declaration of war basically.

Am I missing something here?

[benji]

After what the US and UK did to Iran, its desire to drive Western influence out of the region is understandable and justified, even though I don't agree with everything their government does.

Westerners give the Iranian government more credit than the Iranian people themselves. The theocracy is incredibly unpopular with the Iranian people.

Far right states don't need a defense squad. I'm pretty sure somebody said the same about Hitler/Nazi Germany before WW2.

Westerners are dumbasses when talking about Iran. Iran is a far right shithole. If somebody somehow believes that a far right state's actions are justified then idk what to say.

DISMISSING CONCERNS

[Potato]

The way I see it, Iran has out played Israel to an embarrassing level. They patiently and respectfully showed Israel that they can reach out and touch them whenever they want. They defeated the Iron Dome (lol), and proved that without a large coalition put together by the US, Iran could rain drones and missiles on Israel all day, everyday.

Obviously the US has no red line for Palestinian genocide, but the minute Israel tries to pull the US into a reginal war the infinite ammo and arms hose is getting turned off.

Israel is a pariah state, I doubt it exist in its current form by 2040.

I think one big thing some of yall are over looking is that war is a constant financial equation. This strike by Iran cost them what a few million? Everything they shot was super basic economy stuff. Compare that to the response needed to counter it, the US and Israel spent about a billion dollars in one night. Also Iran told them when to expect this attack. Iran was not looking to cause major damage or casualties, they wont risk open war with a major ally of the US. Along those same lines, I don't think the US has any appetite for a war of any kind, especially with a major Middle Eastern power. This was a measured response to the gross bombing of an embassy. The message is simple, stop with the open acts of war, lets continue with our shadow war.

What I mean about Israel not existing in its current form anymore is not the annihilation of the country, but that in the eyes of the world they have crossed a line of no return, and will continue to loose support and allies until they are forced to make a change similar to how South Africa was in the 90's. While at this moment Zionism still has a lot of western support, I don't think it can recover from what it has done.

Still, we're talking $50 million - $200 million vs half a billion or a billion depending on who you want to quote. The Israeli government said a billion. And again, without HEAVY US intervention this would have been ugly for Israel. Israel keeps digging this hole, eventually people will not have their back. They are unhinged.

I feel the MSM is hiding the fact that Israel attacked the Iranian embassy first. A declaration of war basically.

Am I missing something here?

They really don't understand the significance of not just Jordan joining in the defence of Israel, but fucking Saudi Arabia too, do they?

[Boredfrom]

What I mean about Israel not existing in its current form anymore is not the annihilation of the country, but that in the eyes of the world they have crossed a line of no return, and will continue to loose support and allies until they are forced to make a change similar to how South Africa was in the 90's. While at this moment Zionism still has a lot of western support, I don't think it can recover from what it has done.

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RIP Chester

[benji]

Love how they always come in swinging their dick or hookup knife around saying these definitive statements and then someone gives a little minor pushback and they're all NOT WHAT I MEANT!!!! IT WAS JUST THE ANTI-COLONIALIST LANGUAGE!!! THE DISCORD!!!

[Nintex]

Well with young people being less supportive of Israel and Democratic lawmakers crying when the Iron Dome got funded, support for Israel is waning. It's already hurting Bidens poll numbers. 

The left has succesfully added #FreePalestine to the propaganda pile of climate, open borders, trans rights and anti-capitalism. Israel needs to finish the fight now.

[benji]

The full Zeilard saga:

Yep, where all the surrounding Arab countries banded together with the mission statement to "drive the Jews into the sea." They obviously must have been anti-zionist, not- antisemitic.

They did? "All the surrounding Arab countries banded together with the mission statement to 'drive the Jews into the sea'"?

That was certainly the case in 1948.

1948 Arab–Israeli War - Wikipedia

multiple times

This is truly hideous historiography. What forum am I on? It feels like one of the dumber reddit subs.

Show me exactly when and where "Arab nations have banded together with the mission statement to drive the Jews into the sea."

That you bring up 1948 as an example of that is truly a special insult.

Care to explain why? This is pretty established history that the Arab countries attempted this multiple times until the peace accords were signed between Israel and Egypt. None of that absolves Israel of it's own atrocities, but it just demonstrates that this is an incredibly complicated situation that goes back decades.

Holy shit.

So it's apparently established history that

wait for it

"Arab countries bandied together with a mission statement to drive the Jews into the sea."

So show me where. It's obvious, right? It's a collective "mission statement" with the surrounding "Arab countries" to drive "the Jews" into the sea.

So where is that? Where is that mission statement? Give me the history, I'm ignorant and stupid.

It's literally a citation in the Wikipedia article I posted.


Now, granted, the quote is referring to the Jewish forces, but in 1948 pretty much any able bodied person in Israel, men and women, were pressed into service to fight the forces massed against them. There's no "sweeping them into the sea" without outright genocide.

Uh, that's very boilerplate war rhetoric and hardly a rebuttal to the wild and remarkably insulting statement that "All the surrounding Arab countries banded together with the mission statement to 'drive the Jews into the sea.'"

Yeah obviously they want to win the war. That's hardly some declaration of genocide though I imagine some people want to draw similar analogies these days out of desperation.

Zeliard, I mean this with all sincerity because I think you're a smart poster, but this is an embarrassing reaction and response.

What exactly do you think would have happened if the Arab states had won? Be logical.

But if you wanted more quotes or proof, I have that as well.

Lebanese historian Gilbert Achcar wrote this in his book The Arabs and the Holocaust - The Arab-Israeli War of Narratives.

There one finds an address delivered by Bikbachi (Colonel) Abdel-Nasser before Alexandria's Palestine Club on December 13, 1953…. In it, the future president offers an ironical comment on the Arab attitude during the period when the Zionist plan was being translated into action under the British mandate: "At our meetings and in our speeches, we said we were going to throw the Jews into the sea, and felt reassured after every speech. Then we all went back home."

Here is a statement by Dr. Fadhil Jamali, Iraqi Representative to the United Nations, speaking to the Arab League, February 6, 1955:

I asked them (Arab League members) how Palestine was lost. It had been lost for two basic reasons: one, because we deluded ourselves by underestimating the power of our opponent and by thinking that the Jews were not powerful. The highest official in the League said that with 300 soldiers or North African Volunteers we could throw the Jews into the sea. The war started and His Excellency then said that with 3,000 North African Volunteers we could throw them into the sea. The second reason was that we thought that we were strong enough to face the world but the fact was that we did not estimate our own strength correctly. This then was the issue of Palestine. It seemed a trifling thing at the time but we did not know that behind the Jews of Palestine stood World Zionism with its resources in every major country

Then suddenly Zeliard has somewhere else to be.

[Besticus Maximus]

Give me one example of when the central european powers have formed an alliance to conquer the continent 

[Boredfrom]

Zeliard, I mean this with all sincerity because I think you're a smart poster,

[benji]

Seriously, this is truly hideous historiography. Find me just one example of European powers signing an agreement to carve up one of their neighbors. Just one! What forum am I on? Bringing up 1915 or 1939 as examples of this is truly a special insult.

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

Zeliard, I mean this with all sincerity because I think you're a smart poster,

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/welcome-new-members-introduce-yourself-here.119184/page-36?post=121705578#post-121705578

Hello. New to this site. I was doing some research like last week on stellar blade and saw some topics on this forums so decided to join. Just purchased my ps5 like 3 days ago and started streaming/uploading my playthrough.

Also a huge skyrim fan.

Skyrim sexy mod avatar? Going to fit right in. 

They linked to their own youtube in the Stellar Blade thread. He's a gamer alright!

I pray that he survives the Resetera burka brigade.