Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2)

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/gina-carano-disney-settle-legal-dispute-over-‘mandalorian’-firing-‘we-look-forward-to-identifying-opportunities-to-work-together-in-the-future’.1265157/

Welp.

She gonna sue the people that don't want to watch whatever she gets forced into next?

[Jansen]

When I get rich I'm going to buy all the Microsofts out of spite

[Boredfrom]

If I were Pedro Pascal I would put into my contract that if she's set to become even tangentially a part of a new Star Wars project, or even shows up in the MCU, he would be out immediately.

She's such a waste of space. She deserves nothing

Pretty sure Pedro didn’t particularly care about it, and he was very friendly to her on set. Of course, this probably is going to change now that he is big enough and the spotlight is in his Trans relative, but I doubt he is going to go full Rowling against her.

[benji]

Why do they think Disney would want to cast her?

Why do they think Pascal has the clout to demand that in his contract?

[benji]

She doesn't deserve a penny. No one has any scruples anymore.

Man, it really looks like they're rolling over

They already did it with trump, this was inevitable.

lmao, fucking everybody bending the knee to conservative trash. Need to go after all these companies.

Hard to not think these days that evil always wins

Evil has won, at least in the United States.

Woke is dead

That's fantastic news for shareholders

Or something

Fuck off

With the WWE deal, this, and probably other things they have going on, they're turning into MAGA Disney.

"fiduciary duty" lol

Disney is weak as fuck

You won't see her in anything Star Wars. This is just standard settlement nonsense. Disney wants to be done with it rather than go through discovery.

Nobody wants discovery. For the lawyers they'll say just settle and let's end this here and now

It feels like they just keep getting win after win.

I still don't really understand how she had a case unless there is big stuff that isn't out there.

What the fuck? How?

Damn I called it in the previous thread and people called me out for it. I just knew Disney would settle. Hate to be wrong but that's just how they operate

Hard to not be demoralized when you see shit like this lol

Spineless and unscrupulous sacks of shit. Absolutely pathetic.

All of this over Gina fucking Carano. She is such a garbage "actress." They were well within their rights to just say she fucking sucks at acting. Fuck off.

Fuck Disney.

I can't believe the infamous Disney Lawyers settle.

I would love to know the amount of the settlement.

I feel like she'll only actually "win" this if she shows up in something and unless the courts are forcing Disney to include her in something (which I doubt) then that ain't ever happening

Nobody bothered to even read the article:

In 2024, Carano filed suit in California federal court alleging wrongful termination and discrimination, as well as a demand that the court should force Lucasfilm to recast her and pay at least $75,000 in punitive damages.

Disney obviously settled because that would be less than it would cost to even litigate this thing. They don't care about discovery or any of this other nonsense, they got to kill a lawsuit for mid five figures at most.

[Boredfrom]

Not insulting or stupid, but I found this funny in a ironic way:

For some hecking reason the IMAX in town is playing Fantastic Four instead of Weapons this weekend. No idea what's up with that. I guess I will roll out to the regular theater to check it out.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/weapons-reviews-are-dropping-dir-zach-cregger.1262556/page-3#post-143640984

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/vgc-sony-cfo-says-marathon-is-expected-to-release-before-march-and-bungie%E2%80%99s-independence-is-%E2%80%98getting-lighter%E2%80%99.1264140/page-2#post-143610189

 User banned (permanent): Ableist slurs and dismissive commentary over multiple posts. Account in junior phase.

Bungie made Halo f' ing 25 years ago. Halo is near death now, and they have done pretty much nothing interesting after Halo, and certainly nothing before Halo.
All in all, 300 million would have been way too much to pay for them, and 4 billion is just typical Sony retardation. Sony is completely lost, which is sad and disturbing to see.

Think of all the awesome games they could have made with this kind of money. WTF do you need Bungie for when you have 20 studios making games?

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/sony-senior-vice-president-we-are-looking-to-expand-past-just-making-games-and-into-other-entertainment-avenues.1264728/page-8#post-143628828

 User banned (1 week): misrepresenting moderation

Heh, good luck with that.

yes, even the mods don't care after i reported it.....got to get that engagement up

🤣🤣🤣

[Averon]

Saying "retardation" is a perma ban. Yet holocaust denial is only 3 months.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/i%E2%80%99m-extremely-excited-about-it-i%E2%80%99ve-laid-off-employees-myself-because-of-ai.1258713/#post-143327817

 User Banned (3 Months): Advocating Violence; Prior Ban for the Same

Unless brutal violence towards these guys starts, you tech workers are TURBO fucked.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/bumper-stickers-that-will-annoy-you-to-no-end-while-driving.1260666/#post-143414463 

 User Banned (2 Weeks): Ableist Rhetoric

Thin blue line, 2nd amendment, Trump, y'know - smoothbrains' greatest hits.

But a bit less obvious is people who have those "New driver - please be patient" magnets and then just never take them off. Way too many people out there who've been 'new drivers' for 5+ years.

[benji]

Saying "retardation" is a perma ban. Yet holocaust denial is only 3 months.

How many months would I get for posting "the Holocaust was fucking retarded as an attempt to cleanse the world of the collective nation of Jewish people's global Zionist conspiracy"?

[benji]

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cacd.913921/gov.uscourts.cacd.913921.1.0.pdf

[Uncle]

this is probably more kulturkampf but relevant to topics that get brought up in this thread often, just one more international concession that era types would probably freak out about

https://reduxx.info/exclusive-brazilian-woman-granted-refugee-status-in-europe-after-facing-25-year-sentence-for-misgendering-trans-politician/

Brazilian Woman Granted Refugee Status in Europe After Facing 25-Year Sentence for ‘Misgendering’ Trans Politician

In a precedent-setting move, a European country has officially granted full refugee protections to a Brazilian women’s rights activist who was facing 25 years in prison in her home country for misgendering a transgender politician. Isabella Cêpa is the first person to be recognized as a victim of state persecution for her outspoken opposition to gender identity ideology.

As previously reported by Reduxx, Cêpa first came under criminal investigation after she made a social media post about Erika Hilton – a male politician who “identifies” as a woman. Hilton was elected to São Paulo’s municipal government in November of 2020, winning his seat by a landslide that gave him the title of the most voted-for ‘woman’ in Brazil.

“At the time I didn’t even know who this person was. I just saw a headline on an Instagram page celebrating that ‘the most voted woman in São Paulo is a transwoman,’” Cêpa told Reduxx during a 2022 interview, recounting how her ordeal began. “Then, I shared a video with my followers saying I was disappointed to hear that the most voted-for woman in São Paulo – later found out that it was in the entire country – was a man.”

Cêpa discovered she was being charged with five counts of “social racism.” The charge stems from a 2019 decision by Brazil’s Supreme Federal Court, which ruled that discrimination against ‘LGBTQ Community’ constituted a penal offense, and fell under existing race-based protections as a form of “racism.”

Prior to pressing charges, the Public Prosecutor had combed through Cêpa’s social media posts to find additional statements that could be perceived as “transphobic.” From the news article, Cêpa discovered that she was facing up to 25 years in prison for the supposed “crime.”

In July of 2024, Cêpa was stopped at the Salvador Bahia Airport while attempting to travel to Spain to visit a friend. Federal agents flagged an alert linked to her passport and pulled her aside for further inspection. During the subsequent interview, authorities reportedly determined that her situation could meet the criteria for political persecution. In response, they contacted the airline she had booked with and instructed them not to depart without her on board. An officer then escorted Cêpa onto the plane and advised her against returning to Brazil, marking the beginning of a period of statelessness. In June of 2025, Cêpa formally applied for refugee status.

interesting way her escape went down, sounds like she was lucky to run into sympathetic federal agents

they're not saying which country ended up granting her asylum

[benji]

As previously reported by Reduxx, multiple Brazilians have faced criminal charges for statements or commentary deemed “transphobic.” Earlier this year, women’s rights activist Karen Mizuno revealed she had been notified by police that she may face criminal charges after mocking a trans activist who claimed that “archaeologists are transphobic.” Mizuno faces up to three years in prison.

“I took screen shots of the tweet with these accusations of alleged ‘transphobia’ by the archaeologists, which said exactly the following: ‘This tweet reminds me of something I never see people talking about. Archaeologists are indeed transphobic. That so-called Lucy, for example, are they inferring she was a woman based on the bones alone? Does that mean that if I die, in 500 or 5000 years someone might disrespect my gender because of that?”

Mizuno took a screen shot of the comment and posted it with her own commentary, writing: “With each passing day, human extinction ceases to become a fear and becomes something to hope for.”

Mizuno explains that police first became aware of her while they were probing the social media of Isabela Cêpa, another women’s rights activist who they were similarly investigating for criminal “transphobia.” As previously reported by Reduxx, Cêpa has been threatened with up to 25 years in prison for “misgendering” a transgender politician named Erika Hilton.

...

Hilton was amongst the top 10 most-voted for candidates in all of Brazil, and was touted as the “only woman” to make the list. Hilton filed a criminal complaint against Cêpa after she referred to him as a “man” on social media, noting that the “most voted for woman in Brazil is a man.”

Cêpa has been under criminal investigation for years, and her social media is reportedly combed by authorities regularly as they gather “evidence” of her transphobic views.

After Cêpa shared Mizuno’s archeology joke, police decided to place her under investigation for transphobia as well.

The criminal complaint against Mizuno mentions Cêpa by name, and indicates that the complaint against Mizuno was lodged after law enforcement conducted an “investigation” into posts from other accounts shared by Cêpa.

(Not me but like Nepenthe and Kyuuji and so on.)

[Boredfrom]

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cacd.913921/gov.uscourts.cacd.913921.1.0.pdf

Holy shit.  

Now I don’t feel bad for her.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/men-era-whens-the-last-time-someone-told-you-they-loved-you.1264074/#post-143602587

Lol I can't remember anytime this was said to me sincerely. Not even by my parents.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/men-era-whens-the-last-time-someone-told-you-they-loved-you.1264074/#post-143603151

By humans in person? Its probably been decades. But I like to believe my dog says this to me every time he sees me.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/men-era-whens-the-last-time-someone-told-you-they-loved-you.1264074/#post-143606442

Fairly sure only my Mum has ever said that genuinely.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/men-era-whens-the-last-time-someone-told-you-they-loved-you.1264074/#post-143607492

70% of Era users have more luck in life than they realize it seems.

(Yes I know the poll ain't representative)

I picked last few years, and at this point I don't know if my last (and first) SO ever meant it. So either a couple years ago or never?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/men-era-whens-the-last-time-someone-told-you-they-loved-you.1264074/page-2#post-143608035

Like maybe 20 years. Im tackling this bullshit life alone

*Edit. Closer to 12 now that i actually sit and think of it.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/men-era-whens-the-last-time-someone-told-you-they-loved-you.1264074/page-2#post-143608266

My narcissist ex last said it a few years ago, but it doesn't really count. It's been 4 years since someone said it and meant it too.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/men-era-whens-the-last-time-someone-told-you-they-loved-you.1264074/page-2#post-143608755

Can't remember, must have been many years ago from family. Never from someone outside family.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/men-era-whens-the-last-time-someone-told-you-they-loved-you.1264074/page-2#post-143609829

Been at least 15+ years

https://www.resetera.com/threads/men-era-whens-the-last-time-someone-told-you-they-loved-you.1264074/page-2#post-143609973

I don't remember. Probably a family member a long ass time ago.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/men-era-whens-the-last-time-someone-told-you-they-loved-you.1264074/page-2#post-143611365

Never. I mean, sure at some point maybe when I was a kid, but absolutely not in memory, and likely to continue so

https://www.resetera.com/threads/men-era-whens-the-last-time-someone-told-you-they-loved-you.1264074/page-2#post-143612331

Won't lie, it's been a while.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/men-era-whens-the-last-time-someone-told-you-they-loved-you.1264074/page-2#post-143613648

A few years ago, outside of the voices in my head.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/men-era-whens-the-last-time-someone-told-you-they-loved-you.1264074/page-2#post-143618058

My dad was the last person who said it to me, he passed away a few years ago.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/men-era-whens-the-last-time-someone-told-you-they-loved-you.1264074/page-2#post-143618115

I'm not that lucky.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/men-era-whens-the-last-time-someone-told-you-they-loved-you.1264074/page-3#post-143619576

I'm sure my dad & one of my grandmas have said it within the last few months, but aside from older family members....probably 3-4 years ago when I was dating my ex before I started questioning if she actually did love me & we broke up.

Thanks for the harsh, lonely reminder of the reality of not having a partner who tells me they accept me for who I am, nor someone who I can say it to.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/men-era-whens-the-last-time-someone-told-you-they-loved-you.1264074/page-3#post-143620164

Last decade? Maybe a few years? Like meant it, or were lying about it?

[simiansmarts]

this is probably more kulturkampf but relevant to topics that get brought up in this thread often, just one more international concession that era types would probably freak out about

https://reduxx.info/exclusive-brazilian-woman-granted-refugee-status-in-europe-after-facing-25-year-sentence-for-misgendering-trans-politician/

Brazilian Woman Granted Refugee Status in Europe After Facing 25-Year Sentence for ‘Misgendering’ Trans Politician

In a precedent-setting move, a European country has officially granted full refugee protections to a Brazilian women’s rights activist who was facing 25 years in prison in her home country for misgendering a transgender politician. Isabella Cêpa is the first person to be recognized as a victim of state persecution for her outspoken opposition to gender identity ideology.

As previously reported by Reduxx, Cêpa first came under criminal investigation after she made a social media post about Erika Hilton – a male politician who “identifies” as a woman. Hilton was elected to São Paulo’s municipal government in November of 2020, winning his seat by a landslide that gave him the title of the most voted-for ‘woman’ in Brazil.

“At the time I didn’t even know who this person was. I just saw a headline on an Instagram page celebrating that ‘the most voted woman in São Paulo is a transwoman,’” Cêpa told Reduxx during a 2022 interview, recounting how her ordeal began. “Then, I shared a video with my followers saying I was disappointed to hear that the most voted-for woman in São Paulo – later found out that it was in the entire country – was a man.”

Cêpa discovered she was being charged with five counts of “social racism.” The charge stems from a 2019 decision by Brazil’s Supreme Federal Court, which ruled that discrimination against ‘LGBTQ Community’ constituted a penal offense, and fell under existing race-based protections as a form of “racism.”

Prior to pressing charges, the Public Prosecutor had combed through Cêpa’s social media posts to find additional statements that could be perceived as “transphobic.” From the news article, Cêpa discovered that she was facing up to 25 years in prison for the supposed “crime.”

In July of 2024, Cêpa was stopped at the Salvador Bahia Airport while attempting to travel to Spain to visit a friend. Federal agents flagged an alert linked to her passport and pulled her aside for further inspection. During the subsequent interview, authorities reportedly determined that her situation could meet the criteria for political persecution. In response, they contacted the airline she had booked with and instructed them not to depart without her on board. An officer then escorted Cêpa onto the plane and advised her against returning to Brazil, marking the beginning of a period of statelessness. In June of 2025, Cêpa formally applied for refugee status.

interesting way her escape went down, sounds like she was lucky to run into sympathetic federal agents

they're not saying which country ended up granting her asylum

if nobody got me, i know   got me 
 
can i get an AMEN?

[Venice]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/gina-carano-disney-settle-legal-dispute-over-‘mandalorian’-firing-‘we-look-forward-to-identifying-opportunities-to-work-together-in-the-future’.1265157/

Welp.

She gonna sue the people that don't want to watch whatever she gets forced into next?

There's tons of nasty comments against Gina Carano already on there, but I wanna highlight this one by shithead cunt administrator Transistor in particular:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/gina-carano-disney-settle-legal-dispute-over-%E2%80%98mandalorian%E2%80%99-firing-%E2%80%98we-look-forward-to-identifying-opportunities-to-work-together-in-the-future%E2%80%99.1265157/#post-143638680





It's always funny how Era has a loud n' proud, infamous reputation online as some kind of liberal, left-wing forum, looking out for the LGBTABC community and, especially, women. 

They love going on and on about how they are 'allies' of women, how women shouldn't be looked at as 'sexualised objects', how women should always be believed with everything they say (especially by PlanetSmasher, lol )...

But posts like that one by Transistor, an admin no less, really shows how these freaks truly feel about ladies deep down.

They absolutely hate women. Like... really, really fucking hate women, with a passion. 

Whenever a woman steps out of their extreme-left, extremely narrow world view, the real misogyny quickly cums out and the Era 'leadership' (if you can call it that) actively encourages and endorses abuse towards women.

We saw it first years ago with JK Rowling. They loved her, but when it was discovered she was liking allegedly anti-trans posts, the verbally abusive posts quickly started pouring out. Now you can't go into a thread about Harry Potter without someone calling her a 'witch', ''bitch', 'monster', and, of course 'fuck JK Rowling'.

Then it was Gina Carano. And other women in-between. Doesn't even matter if they're trans. Contrapoints gets the same abuse. So does Blaire White and Caitlyn Jenner.

And now their latest target is Sydney Sweeney. Look at that pathetic thread. So much hatred towards a woman, so much abuse, most of it 'fuck her', just because she made a lame advert.

Era isn't any kind of left-wing safe haven. 

It's a freakshow filled with incels and they all come quickly crawling out like cockroaches whenever there's a chance to actively attack a woman.

Anyway, here's some Gina to celebrate her victory over Disney:

[Averon]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/page-148#post-143586900

She's gonna get one of us killed someday soon

Wow, so Rowling haven't even killed one trans person yet? What happened to Rowling being the leader of the global trans genocide you all said she was engaging in these past several years?

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/gina-carano-disney-settle-legal-dispute-over-‘mandalorian’-firing-‘we-look-forward-to-identifying-opportunities-to-work-together-in-the-future’.1265157/

Welp.

She gonna sue the people that don't want to watch whatever she gets forced into next?

"Cancelled" people are never actually cancelled.

I thought cancel culture doesn't exist.

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/page-148#post-143586900

She's gonna get one of us killed someday soon

Wow, so Rowling haven't even killed one trans person yet? What happened to Rowling being the leader of the global trans genocide you all said she was engaging in these past several years?

That's why the post further down mentions Brianna Ghey's murder by Joanne.

[Uncle]

"Cancelled" people are never actually cancelled.

I thought cancel culture doesn't exist.

but...like...it's only through social pushback and slow change that things like this happen

I can imagine an alternate universe where things kept getting worse and worse and we never started turning this corner



also this is a legal settlement and has nothing to do with whether or not the general public accepts her? she could still discover she remains cancelled

[benji]

she could still discover she remains cancelled

Nazis always come back unless you find a final solution for them:

[benji]

If she appears in anything Star Wars related in the future, I'm dropping the whole franchise on the spot.

Disney: "our spine is made of paper"

Disney working hard to make every demographic hate them.

Really?

What a great time to be a scumbag. Not only will you get away with it, but you might even be rewarded for it!

This kind of thing only makes decent people want to stay away from your shitty nazi loving brand. MAGA already hates Disney because of "woke", and now the folks who want to like Disney are side eying the company at best.

So not surprising... but incredibly disappointing. Shake down artists do nothing but win anymore because nobody will actually take a stand. It's so pathetic.

This thread.

[Uncle]

she could still discover she remains cancelled

Nazis always come back unless you find a final solution for them:

oh thank god, he was only prevented from gainful employment for 8% of his adult life, see there's no such thing as cancel culture it doesn't affect anyone

[benji]

New Avengers Doomsday Trailer, Ten New Disney+ series starring people of color, She-Hulk Season 2

Fuck off, Disney. You settled with Gina Carano instead of taking it to trial. This kind of spineless Nazi shit is exactly why people aren't interested.

Spoiler: visions from the Multiverse (click to show)(click to hide)

Gina Carano wins discrimination lawsuit, Disney forced to give her Star Wars franchise

WHY DIDN'T THEY SETTLE  

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/pete-buttigieg-doubles-down-on-transphobic-comments-regarding-trans-women-in-sports.1265247/

Zeo talking about a lost cause.

[Boredfrom]

One issue with Buttigieg's framing, however, is that such "questions" are themselves shaped by Republican anti-trans propaganda, and are often significantly overblown. Though research into hormone replacement therapy (HRT)'s effects on athletic performance is still developing, a study published last year and funded by the International Olympic Committee found evidence that on average, trans women have lower oxygen consumption rates than cis men or women, and may be disadvantaged in competitions that involve metrics like lower body strength and vertical leap height.

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/pete-buttigieg-doubles-down-on-transphobic-comments-regarding-trans-women-in-sports.1265247/

Stop accepting conservative framing. Jesus fucking Christ. Fuck off Pete.

Stop falling for the trap ffs.

The number of impacted people is so astronomically small. Serious fairness issues my ass.

Someone actually went up to Pete and said "If you back the trans sports decision, you'll be seen as a moderate and more people will come to you!"

Anyone who believes that shit is unfit to lead dog parade. Fuck outta here.

If this is the kind of rhetoric that Dems are already gravitating towards *now* when the anti-Trump climate is perhaps at its strongest, I really worry about where we're going to be once we actually hit primary and election season.

What frustrates me so much about this is that even if you are a national Dem who feels you have no choice but to give up defense of the trans community, you don't even bother to universalize your ostensible "safety" concern to give the illusion that you're doing anything other than literally pandering to manufactured moral panic? Curious how the conversation is always framed around trans girls being 'the danger' but trans boys are never 'in danger'. How odd (/s).

Plus, if any part of this discussion was actually motivated by good faith concerns over safety, that topic would start and end with high school football. Besides the inherent and undeniable risk to human health the sport creates, are we really just going to ignore the decades long disparities in sizes between schools (particularly when it is increasingly along economic lines)? You think a team of 6 ft 200-pounders competing against 5 ft 100-pounders is remotely fair, let alone safe? Even with divisional leagues and systems, it's an absolute joke when you go to some games and see two O-Lines where one is a full head taller than the other.

Stop catering to anti-science panic with this nonsense. Use your voice to empower us, to protect us, and not to kick us down for political gains that don't exist.

You give fascists an inch, they'll take a mile -- not the least when it comes to sacrificing minorities.

what a moron he's basically joining Cenk Uygar in throwing queer people under the bus because it isn't politically expedient to stand up for their Human dignity

No Pete, chances are they are not competing against trans girls or women because that number is vanishingly small. The only reason people are asking that is because Republicans keep putting it on the agenda and you're literally playing into it by accepting that framing.

Not to mention that even in cases where trans women have won events, they have usually been beaten before or after by other cis women. Do you really believe it's worth excluding these people from something that also tends to have a big social aspect to it? You really believe denying them that space is a good outcome? Especially in lower age brackets?

People just get brainworms whenever it comes to this issue, it's so exhausting. If you don't want to contribute to countering that dumb ass narrative then maybe just shut the fuck up for once, you're not going to win the next election by (further) throwing trans people under the bus, no matter how much people like Bill Maher and his ilk keep insisting on it.

People must really really really really really really really care about "fairness" in girls sports, huh?

yeah, you tell 'em! We have to take the people who want trans people to just magically stop existing (often through violence) seriously.

edit

[People are] wondering, 'Wait a minute. I got a daughter in a sports league. Is she going to be competing with boys right now?'"

fucking sigh.

Fuck anyone embracing the conservative framing of this. Fuck Pete and fuck terfs. You can't just throw trans people under the bus in the name of moderation and electability

how are female athletes not fucking appalled that they are constantly being told by everyone that they're not ever going to be good as someone who is amab?

Every idiot who thinks they're the first ones to ever suggest some sort of "compromise" here doesn't realize that testing hormone levels, requiring a certain amount of time on HRT etc is *what we were already doing* before the unilateral bans started being rammed through.

If you in the year 2025 consider yourself to be on the left and still have concerns about the single digit number of trans athletes in your state, I'm sorry to tell you that you're a fucking mark and a rube. This entire "debate" has been expertly packaged by ADF type fuckfaces as some sort of referendum on the sanctity of fairness in women's sports, and you fell for it.

"we shouldn't leave this up to politicians." Then you need to immediately follow that up with what science says on the matter, and not be chickenshit by leaving it open ended like there is some great fucking debate.

Oh look, another rich white "fuck you got mine" Democrat.

The Compassionate Party, ladies and gentlemen

This is the correct framing, and it's also why the conservative thought is so powerful. The way we've done Youth athletics by first making it boys only, then splitting women off into their own category, is intuitive for people to understand in a gender essentialist type of way. But it's not about fairness, which is why conservatives generally don't include professional sports in their complaints, and generally target trans women. Nor is it about safety, given the amount of data we have with injury rates.

Because if you wanted actual "fairness" in youth and amateur sports, you'd completely tear down the binary framework, and make leagues skill and experience based within age brackets. Because anybody who's been to any youth game, most are lopsided blowouts because the skill and experience delta is only more pronounced, as you said.

Let's be honest, of course him and every established DEM will take this position. They are aiming for votes not for caring about human rights. What is scary is this is seen as a moderate position. It will only get worse as Trump reigns for 3.4 more years.

Every trans women in women's sports is a spot designated for a woman taken by a man. You have to answer this complaint first. Not start by yelling at people that they don't understand "the science" at the same time you yell that it's not an issue, only a few women are harmed and they need to just take it.

If that's the conservative framing and the progressive framing is eliminating women's sports then... well, good luck with that.

Also notice that it is a "human rights issue" for men to be able to play in women's sports but not a "human rights issue" for women to be able to participate in women's sports solely with women.

More specifically:

Curious how the conversation is always framed around trans girls being 'the danger' but trans boys are never 'in danger'. How odd (/s).

Because trans boys are accepting the risk. (Not that we should pretend that this is a serious concept since "trans boys" are just girls who should not be on testosterone anyway since it's harmful to them.)

Do you really believe it's worth excluding these people from something that also tends to have a big social aspect to it? You really believe denying them that space is a good outcome? Especially in lower age brackets?

You're the one who wants to deny women their allocated space in women's sports and saying it's the good outcome.

But it's not about fairness, which is why conservatives generally don't include professional sports in their complaints, and generally target trans women.