Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2)

[benji]

People wouldn't get banned for just liking the wrong posts. They'd also get banned for not liking the right posts.

Guaranteed some prominent member would see that no one is liking their posts and bitch about all the people who posted after them and didn't like it. If that didn't work they'd edit in "#TransRights" or something at the end of it then accuse everyone else of being genocide enablers because they didn't click that Like button.

Could you even imagine what NepNep would do if she saw everyone ignoring her wisdom? It would be a massacre.

To be fair, I do side-eye a lot of y'all for the posts you don't like. Very sus when Taco Bell Tower and HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth are the only ones around here willing to stand up and consistently support someone opposing genocide, white supremacy and pedophilia.

[benji]

For example, this Nazi website (not to be confused with the Nazi website Jeff pays for) Google doesn't allow in searches:

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

Joan Rivers being one of Trump's longtime friends.  

[Uncle]

Threads like that "would there be games under socialism" make me sometimes want to sign up AS MYSELF just to explain how none of them are describing socialism, they're describing treason under socialism. Just some simple post about how they're all assuming capitalism still exists in their socialist fantasies. Some brief explainer like I posted above and addressing possible complaints like:
"'What about Scandinavian welfare states?' That's capitalism.
'Well what about market socialism?' That's capitalism.
'Well in current China...' That's capitalism.

If at any point you're thinking 'well, I'll just take my own money and go off and start...' you're talking about capitalism."

But it'd just end like:
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/211/681/b1b.jpg[/img]
User Banned (Permanent): Troll account

I've tried to bring this up before, that even the concept of trading or barter is a form of capitalism, because it implies that one person has skills, gifts or fruits of labor in excess of others, which they distribute in exchange for extra personal benefits, again creating a class of people who have more than others and thus more power (they could trade the goods they traded for to get even more personal benefit, etc.)

the response is usually "lol you think socialism means no more money? you have a lot of learning to do sweetie, read the theory"

[simiansmarts]

For example, this Nazi website (not to be confused with the Nazi website Jeff pays for) Google doesn't allow in searches:

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

Joan Rivers being one of Trump's longtime friends.  

wow, so you're telling me the first black president and black first lady have racist conspiracies about them being spouted by racists??   
 
thank you for your progressive insight, jeff. i would've never learned this without your valuable knowledge! next thing you'll tell me is they also think obama is a muslim terrorist born in kenya!

[Garfield]

socialism to them means being given anything they want while being free to jerk off all day.

[benji]

The abolition of money thing is like a whole part of the theory, literally pages spent on it. Was one of the first things the Soviets tried to do after mass murder and theft. But they think "socialism" is instead the abolition of labor itself, through magic. Because I said so.

I think there's this assumption that the ability to own and trade your own labor is something that's always been the case and so will continue even after the abolition of capitalism. When that was the whole thing that changed. You didn't used to be able to do that. Property was granted, your job was your lineage, you had to get permission to change, most people were tied to the land or outright slaves. That's the very paradigm of capitalism, the systemic change. They have no interest or clue in finding out why it's called capitalism. The whole point where personal ownership and freedom to dispose of capital is the entire thing versus the other systems where capital is controlled by some other thing.

They're so ignorant and greedy they don't even realize that their shit is the same as the socialists before, they're mad that other people can do what they want and they want to stop that and make it so everyone only does what they want. They look at Elon or Bezos or Gabe (or really anyone who isn't them) and see "waste" and want it to be in their hands instead because nothing they do is ever waste. But because they're narcissistic and simple-minded they think well, someone just takes everything from everybody and then this someone will obviously do whatever I want because they can only conceive of other people as if they're themselves. So obviously "us" (aka cops aka chuds) getting a monopoly over everything means I'll be able to do whatever I want. I can't do whatever I want now so the better system as determined by my desiring it simply because it's not the current one MUST be me getting to do whatever I want. That's all the "theory" involved. Just look at Nepenthe trying to apply it in a simple "sketch" of how the world would be after billions are deliberately slaughtered in order to stop wealth from growing, it's literally her describing neighborhoods that exist all over now.

It's not "post-" anything, it's just going back to the past and not letting you have control over capital. You'll still have to labor, just entirely for others. Like, what do you think the "social" part of socialism means? It's not you, you're not society you fucking narcissist. You're an irrelevant speck, an unnecessary piece.

It's easily one of the most frustrating things in internet discourse over the centuries.

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

I'd much rather live in my socialist fantasy utopia that everyone else is too stupid to understand, than any kind of reality.

I am very smart. 

[Orange Juice Box]

socialism to them means being given anything they want while being free to jerk off all day.

[benji]

Y'all really dismissing concerns about how it's unfair that I don't get to live a life of leisure with whatever resources I demand. In 2026. In Pride Month. In the middle of a genocide. 

[Nintex]

I would like Benji to run a state according to real communism.

It has never been tried before and I think he could actually do it.

[Potato]

People wouldn't get banned for just liking the wrong posts. They'd also get banned for not liking the right posts.

Guaranteed some prominent member would see that no one is liking their posts and bitch about all the people who posted after them and didn't like it. If that didn't work they'd edit in "#TransRights" or something at the end of it then accuse everyone else of being genocide enablers because they didn't click that Like button.

Could you even imagine what NepNep would do if she saw everyone ignoring her wisdom? It would be a massacre.

Nepenthe getting 1500 likes would be like Kim Jong SukmyfatUn winning 99.5% of the presidential vote.

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

Threads like that "would there be games under socialism" make me sometimes want to sign up AS MYSELF just to explain how none of them are describing socialism, they're describing treason under socialism. Just some simple post about how they're all assuming capitalism still exists in their socialist fantasies. Some brief explainer like I posted above and addressing possible complaints like:
"'What about Scandinavian welfare states?' That's capitalism.
'Well what about market socialism?' That's capitalism.
'Well in current China...' That's Communism with Chinese Characteristics.

If at any point you're thinking 'well, I'll just take my own money and go off and start...' you're talking about capitalism."

But it'd just end like:

User Banned (Permanent): Troll account

fixed that for you

[Potato]

The abolition of money thing is like a whole part of the theory, literally pages spent on it. Was one of the first things the Soviets tried to do after mass murder and theft. But they think "socialism" is instead the abolition of labor itself, through magic. Because I said so.

I think there's this assumption that the ability to own and trade your own labor is something that's always been the case and so will continue even after the abolition of capitalism. When that was the whole thing that changed. You didn't used to be able to do that. Property was granted, your job was your lineage, you had to get permission to change, most people were tied to the land or outright slaves. That's the very paradigm of capitalism, the systemic change. They have no interest or clue in finding out why it's called capitalism. The whole point where personal ownership and freedom to dispose of capital is the entire thing versus the other systems where capital is controlled by some other thing.

They're so ignorant and greedy they don't even realize that their shit is the same as the socialists before, they're mad that other people can do what they want and they want to stop that and make it so everyone only does what they want. They look at Elon or Bezos or Gabe (or really anyone who isn't them) and see "waste" and want it to be in their hands instead because nothing they do is ever waste. But because they're narcissistic and simple-minded they think well, someone just takes everything from everybody and then this someone will obviously do whatever I want because they can only conceive of other people as if they're themselves. So obviously "us" (aka cops aka chuds) getting a monopoly over everything means I'll be able to do whatever I want. I can't do whatever I want now so the better system as determined by my desiring it simply because it's not the current one MUST be me getting to do whatever I want. That's all the "theory" involved. Just look at Nepenthe trying to apply it in a simple "sketch" of how the world would be after billions are deliberately slaughtered in order to stop wealth from growing, it's literally her describing neighborhoods that exist all over now.

It's not "post-" anything, it's just going back to the past and not letting you have control over capital. You'll still have to labor, just entirely for others. Like, what do you think the "social" part of socialism means? It's not you, you're not society you fucking narcissist. You're an irrelevant speck, an unnecessary piece.

It's easily one of the most frustrating things in internet discourse over the centuries.

One of the more obvious signs that they don't understand the context of 19th century revolutionary theory is how they rave on about landlords.

They think of landlords as the middle class person who owns an investment property and rents it out for income. They claim in earnest that all landlords should face the guillotine.

However, the actual context of landlords at the time were literally the fucking lords of the land who inherited wealth and land and rented out farmland to peasant farmers at extortionate rates and kept them in debt and subservience.
These two things are not the same. People who think this way are retards and should face the wall first.

[benji]

I would like Benji to run a state according to real communism.

It has never been tried before and I think he could actually do it.

It was tried. The Soviets and CCP both tried it before abandoning it. Pol Pot basically did Nepenthe's version. (Though, to be fair, she claims to not be a socialist. Which is probably worse as then she's just arguing for mass murder without even any kind of purpose.)

The claim that "real socialism was never tried" is to argue that the greatest socialist ideologues in history who obtained power killed and destroyed more than anyone else in history for no reason at all despite having said before that this is what they intended to do. That it was all a big lie on their part even as they spent how much time developing the rhetoric and argument, the theory, that it was what needed to be done. That they spent all this time arguing there needed to be a great unleashing of violence to "turn the world upside down" and then did exactly this but didn't actually mean to do it. That it was all big one oopsie of unexplainable intent.

[Daffy Duck]

I won't link it due to extreme naughty language

but

youtube video called White for 99 cents

The double moralety of this forum is incredible. In every Xbox thread there is a banner to boycott xbox. In fact there is on now right over where i`m writing.
This forum have been so proud of not giving ms and xbox any money.
And now that the poor sales are in and the studio closes its 100% MS fault.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-verge-xbox-closing-ninja-theory-but-attempting-to-find-a-buyer.1551895/page-6#post-156528124

User banned (2 weeks): Inflammatory whataboutism and dismissing concerns of genocide

That’s a BS ban and they know it!

[benji]

One of the more obvious signs that they don't understand the context of 19th century revolutionary theory is how they rave on about landlords.

They think of landlords as the middle class person who owns an investment property and rents it out for income. They claim in earnest that all landlords should face the guillotine.

However, the actual context of landlords at the time were literally the fucking lords of the land who inherited wealth and land and rented out farmland to peasant farmers at extortionate rates and kept them in debt and subservience.
These two things are not the same. People who think this way are retards and should face the wall first.

The way they talk about "capitalists" is the same thing. They're imagining some East Indian Company type monopolist or even John D. Rockefeller, not literally everyone with a pension or similar invested in the stock market or even treasury bills.

The greatest singular "capitalist" force in our society is the public sector worker pension fund. The teachers and bureaucrats they spend all their time saying should never be criticized for anything and given even more money from taxpayers:

United States Public Pensions
Total Assets: ~$6.0 trillion (state and local), or $10.0 trillion (including federal).
Participants: Serves ≈ 15.3 million active members and 12.4 million retirees.

Largest Individual Funds:
California Public Employees' Retirement System (CalPERS): Manages over $550 billion in assets.
California State Teachers' Retirement System (CalSTRS): Manages over $335 billion.

A bunch of BlackRock, Vanguard and State Street's infamous assets are actually these.

Elon and Bezos's "capitalist" power are nothing compared to these, what are they going to do? Cash out of Tesla/SpaceX/etc. and Amazon? And buy what with it?

[NekoFever]

Not to mention things become a shit show when someone posts something awful/bigoted, and then that post gets like hundreds of likes. Then mods have to go into every individual user that liked the post, and separately explain why they were banned.

I love the assumed entitlement here, how if hundreds of people like a bigoted post (i.e. any post I disagree with), there will be no introspection — they will all be banned.

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

socialism was never allowed to flourish due to capitalism. All we saw was and is siege socialism, Benji. 

[benji]

socialism was never allowed to flourish due to capitalism. All we saw was and is siege socialism, Benji. 

That's what you get for rushing into it instead of waiting for capitalism to finish as guaranteed by History. Not my fault Lenin and the rest refused to follow the proven science as revealed to Marx. They all wanted to drink from the still instantly rather than wait for the necessary fermentation. 

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They also rarely listened to Marx about this too:

[Besticus Maximus]

Games under social democracy is where it's at 
OoT released under a labour government, never forget to add that to the glorious list of achievements

[jooseloose]

Can we please get some kind of like button or some variation of it? If I agree with someone said, I shouldn’t have to quote them every single time. PLEASE! People be saying witty and clever stuff and I wanna give them a like.

This is exactly why I don't want a like button. You start rewarding witty & clever posts and the website turns into Reddit.

Not to mention things become a shit show when someone posts something awful/bigoted, and then that post gets like hundreds of likes.  Then mods have to go into every individual user that liked the post, and separately explain why they were banned.

What a nightmare that would be. I don't envy the mods.

‘Pathetic’ doesn’t even begin to describe these fuckers Jesus fucking Christ

The first user to tell Echoes "stfu you pervert incel manchild" in his next wlw lesbian videogame crush thread would get 100 likes and that idea terrifies them 

I've said this before, but introducing likes on Era would end up with so many bruised egos from the """prominent""" members when they realise high post count + community protection != popularity. You just know Echoes would be running to the burka thread with a hidden post about how no one is liking their posts  You'd obviously have the usual discords coordinating likes too, no doubt.

[Daffy Duck]

Boom, and there it is

B-52s were used only weeks ago in the illegal war of aggression against Iran, killing many innocent men, women and children. Do you find that disgusting, too?

 

I guess the point I was trying to make is, that many people don't feel like they owe respect to someone who voluntarily chose to be a member of an organisation that constantly commits war crimes and murders innocent people, and died while operating a vehicle of mass destruction.

Came here to say something similar. Those on board are serving in the military during the Trump regime. I think from many people they'll get little sympathy.

I'm going to be frank with you: I don't care about US military personnel who fly B-52 Bombers which have spent the last 70 years committing war crimes around the world. It's disgusting you don't seem to care about those and all the innocent people they have killed. They were just yet again doing it in the Middle East the other day.

I don't want this to happen as I don't like death and because I'd prefer them to be facing condign punishment in front of a proper legal court of human rights. But I'm also not going to be concerned that it has happened. The loss of the plane is an unalloyed good though. One fewer death machine.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/june-15-2026-b-52-bomber-crashes-taking-off-from-edwards-air-force-base.1551871/

Disgusting people all round

We know who is getting banned though

Embarrassing posts honestly. The way this country deliberately makes getting healthcare, education and living wages almost impossible to get make the military one of the only means that underprivileged, poverty level families are granted access to them. Not everyone joins the reasons you think. For some it's the only way to afford an education, for others the only way to provide life saving medical care for their family. This is the reality for many minorities like myself who had few if any options.

Grow up and step outside of your privileged, classist takes you feel so necessary to air on a forum for internet brownie points on the smoldering graves of eight Americans. Fuck the imperialism America engages in, but it has nothing to do with the individual lives that join. You realize that's the only way some trans folks (used to be) able afford to be the person they truly are, right? If you have a bone to pick, take it up with the power structures that corrupt this country that MAKE IT so that joining the military is their ONLY option to survive.

Every day I'm more shocked at some of the ignorance on this site, but it's just another day on Era after all.

Jesus fucking christ.

[HaughtyFrank]

Meanwhile the same people will cheer on the Houthis or Hezbollah. 

B-Dumbs sitting in the corner wondering how this could happen 

[benji]

The way they use "war crime" it makes me wonder what the part of war is that isn't a war crime. Like it's just some redundant vestigial phrase. (See also: "illegal war" in that one post quoted, what would they consider a "legal war"? What Luigi did?)

Also the posts suggesting these guys are guilty of something (and so deserving of punishment) because other crew of the same type of planes, or members of the same multi-million person group, have done "war crimes" in the past century are incredible.

[BIONIC]

socialism to them means being given anything they want while being free to jerk off all day.

[Potato]

I will accept a legitimate government exercising its military power over another country every time before I will accept a paramilitary organisation running terrorist operations from inside a country it has spent decades destabilising and causing civil wars in.

[Uncle]

socialism to them means being given anything they want while being free to jerk off all day.

btw

   

[Boredfrom]

Talking about virtue signaling:

I'm completely soured on Game Pass. We've had developers talked about how they see it as devaluing games and how the positives don't outweigh the negatives like had been claimed for the longest time.

A last-ditch Hail Mary to save the Xbox One became the death blow to the entire brand itself. Crazy to think about it in hindsight.

Raphael Colantonio was right when he said it was unsustainable and reality would hit once Microsoft's 'infinite money' ran out.

I feel like shit having subbed at all. I bought the games I ended up playing more than a few hours of, but I have money to the service and sent a terrible message that cost people their jobs. Short sucks emotionally.

Unless you have developer friends that actually got a raw deal from GP, you really don’t feel sorry at all. People shouldn’t feel bad when taking advantage of an unsustainable service that big corpo creates.

Bitch ass crocodile tears.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/gamepass-is-the-biggest-failure-of-all-time-in-gaming.1552108/

[Boredfrom]

ERA: People should steal from Whole Foods. 

Also ERA: I feel bad for using my money to damage Microsoft. 

[BIONIC]

socialism to them means being given anything they want while being free to jerk off all day.

btw