Journal of Other Forum Analysis

[kaleidoscopium]

And this is why games will never be "art" its always been a commodity.

The problem with this take is thinking this action was purely altruistic, it will always be weaponized to any idea not in the white cis wheelhouse.

You cant just bully artists into doing things you like. Sony absolutely fucked up by pushing a release early and basically removing access to this game by requiring it. The order of operations was wrong and forced them into this outcome. Which is great for the consumers.

is not wanting to use a PSN account on PC a white cis idea

is the PSN sign in an artistic decision?

actual questions btw

https://www.resetera.com/threads/playstation-weve-heard-your-feedback-the-may-6-helldivers-2-update-will-not-be-moving-forward.862866/page-17?post=122565240#post-122565240

[Straight Edge]

Duct tape and zip ties. Usuals

Burying the lede!

[HardcoreRetro]

I can't believe these gamergators keep using buzzwords like "woke" and "SJW". Don't they understand how dumb it makes them look?

Yikes, they're absolute chuds.

[Disco55]

This is a slippery slope, so now when gamers decide they don't like something they'll just review bomb companies into doing what they want?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/playstation-weve-heard-your-feedback-the-may-6-helldivers-2-update-will-not-be-moving-forward.862866/post-122562102

Really, is there an instance of this where the chud fans were wrong? From Operation Rainfall to the Snyder cut to Sonic's teeth to the Yakuza series to many others, the fans were in the right. You can extend it to Resident Evil 2 remake and DMC5. It's always beneficial for all parties except corporate fanboys warning about a slippery slope.

All I'm saying is, the chuds would've gotten Batgirl released if they wanted it.

I'm too lazy to look it up, but what was Operation Rainfall

[nachobro]

Is it possible to send these emails to ISU themselves?

[Uncle]

I can't believe these gamergators keep using buzzwords like "woke" and "SJW". Don't they understand how dumb it makes them look?

Yikes, they're absolute chuds.

it's intensely problematic cis nonsense but y'all ain't ready for that conversation

[Uncle]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/playstation-weve-heard-your-feedback-the-may-6-helldivers-2-update-will-not-be-moving-forward.862866/post-122562102

Really, is there an instance of this where the chud fans were wrong? From Operation Rainfall to the Snyder cut to Sonic's teeth to the Yakuza series to many others, the fans were in the right. You can extend it to Resident Evil 2 remake and DMC5. It's always beneficial for all parties except corporate fanboys warning about a slippery slope.

All I'm saying is, the chuds would've gotten Batgirl released if they wanted it.

I'm too lazy to look it up, but what was Operation Rainfall

a community push to get the Wii games xenoblade, the last story, and pandora's tower localized and released in the US, at the end of the Wii's life when companies were starting to be like ehh fuck it

it succeeded and all three were released, xenoblade was a massive success story obviously

[Uncle]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/protests-at-columbia-university-continue-as-groups-on-both-sides-of-the-aisle-call-for-action-to-be-taken-university-shifts-to-hybrid-classes.851787/page-31

not a single new post in 10 hours

[PogiJones]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/did-you-ever-get-shit-for-picking-a-character-opposite-your-gender-as-a-kid.861711/post-122449212

as a teenager, I would jokingly tell people "If I'm going to stare at someone's ass for hours, it should be a woman" because I was 17 or whatever and an idiot and it was just a throwaway joke
Then later in life I heard someone else say exactly that and realized how fucking creepy it was and I disliked my teenage self and just went "I dunno, I just do."

[Alpacx]

I can't believe these gamergators keep using buzzwords like "woke" and "SJW". Don't they understand how dumb it makes them look?

Yikes, they're absolute chuds.

Sony rights are Human Rights, chud.

[PogiJones]

The bitterness 

So we shouldn't push back against shitty practices from companies because we might stress their employees out? Lmfao

The push back:
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That all of you fail to acknowledge that the incel/far-right chuds, in their war against "sjw woke propaganda", are a huge drive behind this whole debacle is pretty funny not gonna lie.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/playstation-weve-heard-your-feedback-the-may-6-helldivers-2-update-will-not-be-moving-forward.862866/post-122560464

Okay, I thought this was filler, but now right at the end of the episode they connect it all back to the main storyline 

[JoeBoy101]

The bitterness 

The push back:
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That all of you fail to acknowledge that the incel/far-right chuds, in their war against "sjw woke propaganda", are a huge drive behind this whole debacle is pretty funny not gonna lie.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/playstation-weve-heard-your-feedback-the-may-6-helldivers-2-update-will-not-be-moving-forward.862866/post-122560464

Okay, I thought this was filler, but now right at the end of the episode they connect it all back to the main storyline 

Gotta to have faith in the writers. I believe!

[PogiJones]

What need to happen now is that those bad reviews need to be reversed, not for Sony's sake, but for AH sake. It's been fixed and protesters need to clean up their mess. Those who got a refund out of protest, need to repurchase the game again for AH sake.

[JoeBoy101]

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What need to happen now is that those bad reviews need to be reversed, not for Sony's sake, but for AH sake. It's been fixed and protesters need to clean up their mess. Those who got a refund out of protest, need to repurchase the game again for AH sake.

He’s back with a banger:

We will have to see if it goes back to it's "overwhelming positive" review. Having half of them doing it doesn't = job done. I'll change it once it returns to back to its normal state.

You don't start a fire to a building and then only put the fire out and then only clean the lot out and think that's all that needs to be done. You need to rebuild the building again or the burnt empty lot will remind you that you still burned the building down in the first place.

Also, never said that "the morally degenerate PC gamer" portion, that's your take, which is really sad that you think we are that.

[HaughtyFrank]

Is not wanting to use a PSN account on PC a white cis idea

is the PSN sign in an artistic decision?

actual questions btw

Both no. But this is a game about satirical fascism being the good guys that has jilted the satire often so, this group of people getting a win, while entirely deserved and needed, can be taken as "we can change bad things in gaming" but the things that are bad are usually entirely subjective.
as a whole its a good thing, probably, im just jaded on capital G gamers and giving them power.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/playstation-weve-heard-your-feedback-the-may-6-helldivers-2-update-will-not-be-moving-forward.862866/post-122566707

No one more terrified of gamers than RE

[Daffy Duck]

From the crimes of JK thread.


What a fucking vegetable.

They'll do the same for disabled toilets right? Oh wait, they are only ever gender neutral, and aside from putting baby changing/storage in them haven't had a problem that I am aware of.

Disabled toilets are one in one out, but yes you go off about it oh sweet prince.

[Uncle]

every time I come across a disabled toilet I right click on it and re-enable it

[nachobro]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/maybe-i-am-a-grumpy-gus-but-if-you-send-me-one-of-these-as-a-gift-we-fighting.863301/post-122576046

dumbest forum on the internet

[Taco Bell Tower]

And this is why games will never be "art" its always been a commodity.

The problem with this take is thinking this action was purely altruistic, it will always be weaponized to any idea not in the white cis wheelhouse.

You cant just bully artists into doing things you like. Sony absolutely fucked up by pushing a release early and basically removing access to this game by requiring it. The order of operations was wrong and forced them into this outcome. Which is great for the consumers.

is not wanting to use a PSN account on PC a white cis idea

is the PSN sign in an artistic decision?

actual questions btw

https://www.resetera.com/threads/playstation-weve-heard-your-feedback-the-may-6-helldivers-2-update-will-not-be-moving-forward.862866/page-17?post=122565240#post-122565240

Some people here are clearly seething that Sony listened to the demands and they should honestly have a conversation with themselves as to why they feel this way.

Because you guys do realize it's not normal to feel this way, right?

Normal, at Ree site? 

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/did-you-ever-get-shit-for-picking-a-character-opposite-your-gender-as-a-kid.861711/post-122449212

as a teenager, I would jokingly tell people "If I'm going to stare at someone's ass for hours, it should be a woman" because I was 17 or whatever and an idiot and it was just a throwaway joke
Then later in life I heard someone else say exactly that and realized how fucking creepy it was and I disliked my teenage self and just went "I dunno, I just do."

Nah, we're cancelling Imran.  We don't care he said that as a teen, it's still problematic.  Objectifying women like that, shame on him 

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/british-darts-player-deta-hedman-forfeits-denmark-open-quarter-final-because-the-opponent-is-a-trans-woman.863244/

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/helldivers-2-has-been-delisted-on-steam-in-countries-where-psn-isnt-available.862554/page-18?post=122521212#post-122521212

Until yesterday, a bunch of my friends were playing Helldivers 2 on Steam with no problems, and yes they had PSN accounts linked. Now, you can't buy it on Steam in my country anymore. And I'm guessing you won't be able to buy Ghost of Tsushima either.

Thank you principled gamers! You really showed 'em!

I suppose Sony can put out a statement that it is the consumer's fault for having the games delisted

I don't care what Sony thinks.

*I* think it's the consumers' fault for me not being able to buy it anymore.

Goddamn chuds, always ruining it for me.

[Uncle]

...when you can't buy a game in a country, does that also remove it from your library? the post doesn't say "now they can't play it," it says "now you can't buy it"

[Nintex]

your thoughts on all this since Sony caved  

"guess those laws weren't a factor?"

They probably limited/anonymized the data collection for non PSN users.

Some pissbabies mega mad in the F1 thread that Trump appeared at the McLaren garage and a TV broadcast of him for roughly 1 min talking the team principal at the F1 race at Miami on sunday
The best part, is that Lando Norris/McLaren actually won the GP (Lando's first GP win) which makes some of them even more pissy
Follow all the pages since here: https://www.resetera.com/threads/fia-f1-2024-ot-theres-newey-time-like-the-present-raceweek-6-miami-3-5-may-sillyseasoncontinues.814548/page-149
Some of those posters being pissy the most barely post in the F1 thread it seems like they just there because Trump made an appearance

Orange Man / Orange Car / 1st Lando F1 GP win after Trump visit.

It's like poetry

[Uncle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/FuckAI/comments/1choemp/pauseai_protests/



we must harness and control the power of these palestinian protestors! look at how much impact they're having! imagine our power levels if we could capture their attention for even a moment!

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.25newsnow.com/2024/05/06/isu-students-arrested-pro-palestinian-sit-in-appear-court/

[Nintex]

https://www.reddit.com/r/FuckAI/comments/1choemp/pauseai_protests/



we must harness and control the power of these palestinian protestors! look at how much impact they're having! imagine our power levels if we could capture their attention for even a moment!

Maybe they should kidnap and rape some folks

[Potato]

"I believe a woman is a human being who belongs to the sex class that produce big gamates"

I think she's slowly but surely running out of any form of logical ways to define what she believes is a woman as trans women will fit the same criteria so now she's started bringing up things that most people have never even heard of/nor would anyone ever care about.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/page-116?post=122560539#post-122560539

Mind giving your own substantial definition for cis women vs trans women to differentiate them?

Woman: Person born with the equipment to bear children, whether functional or not.
Men: People born with the equipment to impregnate a woman, whether functional or not.
Transwomen: Men dressed as women. 

There are obviously very rare cases where abnormalities prevent a person fitting neatly in these definitions, but they are very rare, are abnormalities and can reach be categorised according to that abnormality. 

This shit ain't that difficult. Stop being cunts.

[Nintex]

Stop being cunts.

  transphobia?

[Potato]

I’m sure everyone we’ll be moving forward from the helldivers drama shortly, but that Sony reversing course thread has such examples of saltiness, I’m worried about my blood pressure. It’s glorious!

This was always the inevitable outcome when the game got delisted in so many regions. It started up a racism/xenophobia angle that I knew they wouldn't want to let run rampant.

oh so now gamers care about racism....SMH

Silly. Other companies require you to have their account to play their games. Didn't understand what was wrong with this at all

Honestly, absolutely ridiculous. Sony can basically never require a PSN login for any of its PC software ever moving forward now. Considering so many other publishers already require the exact same thing I think it's mental that this whole thing transpired.

Wow, gamers "won"! What they won exactly, I'm not really sure. The right to not have to give Sony their e-mail address?

Now if only gamers would put these efforts into worthwhile causes like excessive DLC pricing, predatory monetization practices, always-on DRM schemes, etc.

Alright, now let's see if everyone keeps this same energy when the next hit multiplayer game comes around and asks you to make/link an account 🙂

Asides from the regional issues which folks should get refunds regardless of hours spent... for everyone else: it was just making a fucking account, my goodness. Takes fucking minutes lol

oh fantastic, now my twitter feed is going to be filled with "we did it with helldivers, we can also win the censorship fight against sony, free stellar blade".

i need to start blocking a lot of people.

It was purely fueled by console war nonsense. People acted like children instead and now the chuds and capital-G "Gamers" are ever more emboldened to do this again whenever they want with whatever they want. The only thing "won" was that those countries can no longer buy it. It's a lose-lose for everybody.

Sony really caved in to a bunch of babies. Terrible move.

Oh fuck off with this nonsense. Most AAA games have some sort of account/login system.

You don't like it? Cool. Acting like this is some blasphemy against PC users is idiotic. The only actually weird move was delisting the game in all the countries they had sold it before. That was an actual "get fucked" move.

This is a slippery slope, so now when gamers decide they don't like something they'll just review bomb companies into doing what they want?

The bitterness 

Rage baiting wins again. Congrats, Gamers. Remember to tune in this week and Rise Up!

By the way, fuck PlayStation and Arrowhead for fumbling their communications this hard, but I'm astounded by the amount of vitriol and bullshit you all can type for the dumbest shit.

This topic is linked to anti-union, how exactly?

Sending threats to workers IS pro-union.

This is a can of worms because people buying stuff from other countries are not paying proper taxes and Sony cannot be seen to be supporting or turning a blind eye to that.

They should have a free PSN account that works in every non embargoed country then the actual purchasing part should be separate inside that account.

Y'all should take another look to the list of countries supported by other companies. For example, Nintendo or Xbox? Not a whole lot.

People outside supported regions have been telling you this was a non-issue, but hey, what do they know?

So we shouldn't push back against shitty practices from companies because we might stress their employees out? Lmfao

The push back:
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That all of you fail to acknowledge that the incel/far-right chuds, in their war against "sjw woke propaganda", are a huge drive behind this whole debacle is pretty funny not gonna lie.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/playstation-weve-heard-your-feedback-the-may-6-helldivers-2-update-will-not-be-moving-forward.862866/post-122560464

Can one of these retards explain one single actual benefit to the customer of signing up for a PSN account if you are a PC-only player? 

If not, get back in your fucking box and shut your stupid retard mouth. 

So many corporate apologists for a socialist/communist forum...