Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 1)

[kaleidoscopium]

The idea that the party is too woke and that's why they lost the election is factually wrong and it's absolutely insane to pretend otherwise.

They lost because they abandoned their own base and embarrassingly tried to cater to people they were never going to win over.

Hopefully, once we're out of the shadow of this loss, dems will realize the the correct move is to focus on speaking about the economy and how they're going to improve it while also embracing popular progressive politics.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/politico-centrist-dems-seize-opening-at-the-dnc-‘i-don’t-want-to-be-the-freak-show-party’.1037832/#post-131747472

[malfoyking]

The idea that the party is too woke and that's why they lost the election is factually wrong and it's absolutely insane to pretend otherwise.

They lost because they abandoned their own base and embarrassingly tried to cater to people they were never going to win over.

Hopefully, once we're out of the shadow of this loss, dems will realize the the correct move is to focus on speaking about the economy and how they're going to improve it while also embracing popular progressive politics.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/politico-centrist-dems-seize-opening-at-the-dnc-‘i-don’t-want-to-be-the-freak-show-party’.1037832/#post-131747472

This useless worthless motherfucker. This idiotic moron. Fuck I hate online progressives. Like legitimately fucking hate them. The worse thing that dipshit Bernie Sanders did was awaken these fucking morons. Here we are 8 years since the start of this shit, they have failed repeatedly trying to run for president but somehow still believe that everyone should listen to their stupid fucking dumbasses.

Biden crushed Sanders by being centrist to the core. Dems always have to fight republicans, and these progressive-type psychos who willingly ally with Republicans as long as they can grift to bash the dems.

California just voted against rent control, and it's a progressive haven. But please, keep catering to them and solely to them and their nonsense magical thinking fantasy bullshit whims. Please Dems listen to zeo and the online furry bitches about how to appeal to the normal people.

Fuck!!!!!!

[kaleidoscopium]

This will just further cement that I will no longer care about DC politics.
I'll reasonably happily vote for Big Gretch if she stays the course because she is actually meaningfully improving the situation in MI while catering to both the left and the center.
There are local socialists to support too. But fuck the DNC as a whole.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/politico-centrist-dems-seize-opening-at-the-dnc-‘i-don’t-want-to-be-the-freak-show-party’.1037832/page-2#post-131749470

Whitmer is term limited you retard. I love how this forum pretends to be politically informed yet shows their ineptitude every chance they get  

Whole threads a fun read as they realize they’re the freak show

[Venice]

Welcome back, kaleidoscopium. 

Era still taking election result very hard. From the same "Politico: Centrist Dems seize opening at the DNC: ‘I don’t want to be the freak show party’" thread as above, a touch of self-awareness:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/politico-centrist-dems-seize-opening-at-the-dnc-%E2%80%98i-don%E2%80%99t-want-to-be-the-freak-show-party%E2%80%99.1037832/#post-131747277

If you don't want to be a freakshow party, then don't expect votes from those 'freaks'.

Poor Dems.

There goes the entire ResetEra 'why doesn't the whole world revolve around lunatics like us?' votes  

[kaleidoscopium]

Thanks, this site was broken for me during the election so just took a break from it but was still keeping up on era don’t worry. These people’s brains are completely broken and it’s been great to see  

[benji]

Indeed.

Trying to wage the war within the corporate media sphere is missing the point entirely. Consumption isn't really material politics.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/thr-rachel-zegler-disneys-snow-white-remake-apologies-for-criticizing-trump-voters.1036896/page-2#post-131738661

 

Framing this as the center vs. the left is so misleading. 

I know someone like Bernie Sanders doesn’t want shit to do with all this idpol crap, but he’s way to the left.

preferred pronouns and fursonas aren’t something inherent to left wing politics.

For better or worse IdPol is associated with leftist politics now, at least in the U.S. 

You have seen how ERA talks about farmers and blue collar workers when they something they don’t like (like their priorities not being climate change or social progress).

It's because Marx was wrong.

No, literally. Marx didn't know anything about capitalism so not a single one of his predictions was right because all of his analysis was useless. This left the Left without their plan, how can there be a proletariat revolution if there's no proletariat? How will capitalism collapse from the contradictions if those contradictions don't actually exist? The contradictions were supposed to make the masses in the world, especially the West, vastly poorer which would animate their revolutionary sprit, yet both wealth and welfare states (a thing Marx didn't conceive could exist) have only grown everywhere?

Thankfully, Marxist academics had an answer (especially since they didn't understand economics either and so never bothered to study it), remove the materialism and focus on the "cultural" means of production. Now you can throw out the proletariat for any marginalized. Then you can define all non-cishet white males as marginalized and get an actual chance at a numerical "majority" of people. (This made more sense back when the international revolution was still a thing the Left cared about uber alles.) And even if that's not the case, like in Amerikkka where white supremacism is too strong with white women and Latinx, Lenin and Mao proved that moral strength of will is more important than numbers. Now you can see why those of you showing your asses until I side eye you are going to be left behind by the Right Side of History's guaranteed eventual victory from organizing material politics. We just organize, share our pronouns and headmates, read theory (Bluesky), and refuse to ever compromise and capitalism falls to The People putting us in charge to do rational management of everything because unlike you or cacs like Bernie Sanders we haven't thrown away our morals by handing over the marginalized to fascists and Zionists.

Throw in the fact that most of these people are upper or middle class layabouts who went or could have went to college and have never done manual labor, few of them even work actual normal white collar style or office jobs. Material politics is the last thing they care about. Marxism still appeals to them because they can't grasp anything about how wrong it is both historically and currently.

[HaughtyFrank]

The idea that the party is too woke and that's why they lost the election is factually wrong and it's absolutely insane to pretend otherwise.

They lost because they abandoned their own base and embarrassingly tried to cater to people they were never going to win over.

Hopefully, once we're out of the shadow of this loss, dems will realize the the correct move is to focus on speaking about the economy and how they're going to improve it while also embracing popular progressive politics.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/politico-centrist-dems-seize-opening-at-the-dnc-‘i-don’t-want-to-be-the-freak-show-party’.1037832/#post-131747472

Naturally Zeo talked about how the Democrats are too centrist all the time before the election and this isn't just the take he was provided by John Oliver.

That the "Kamala is for they/them, Trump is for you" ad was effective is factually true, and the Dems just didn't have a good answer to it

[Ethan]

Liberals show once again that they are useless and don't give a single fuck about minorities.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/politico-centrist-dems-seize-opening-at-the-dnc-%E2%80%98i-don%E2%80%99t-want-to-be-the-freak-show-party%E2%80%99.1037832/page-3#post-131750124

But most minorities hate the woke/progressive shit... (that doesn't personally impact them)
 

You cater to the muslims on Palestine, you make the jews mad
You cater to to jews on Israel, you make the muslims mad
You cater to the trans on sports, you make the women mad
You cater to the blacks on affirmative action, you make the asians mad
You cater to the disabled, you make the slightly less-disabled mad

When will they realize that intersectionality is only a thing among gender queer college sociology students?

[railGUN]

So are trans people a tiny less than a percent of the country that is nothing or are we the tipping point in deciding elections?

Acknowledging our existence is a losing battle because the white guy who drives a truck everyday doesn't understand it.

Bitch, you're a biological female that identifies as a female. Trans. 

[kaleidoscopium]

No one understands what you identify as Nepenthe, you think you’re a dog person

[HaughtyFrank]

So are trans people a tiny less than a percent of the country that is nothing or are we the tipping point in deciding elections?

Acknowledging our existence is a losing battle because the white guy who drives a truck everyday doesn't understand it.

Bitch, you're a biological female that identifies as a female. Trans. 

Correction, she identifies as non-binary whenever it is convenient and non-binaries identify as trans whenever it is convenient

[Taco Bell Tower]

The idea that the party is too woke and that's why they lost the election is factually wrong and it's absolutely insane to pretend otherwise.

They lost because they abandoned their own base and embarrassingly tried to cater to people they were never going to win over.

Hopefully, once we're out of the shadow of this loss, dems will realize the the correct move is to focus on speaking about the economy and how they're going to improve it while also embracing popular progressive politics.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/politico-centrist-dems-seize-opening-at-the-dnc-‘i-don’t-want-to-be-the-freak-show-party’.1037832/#post-131747472

We need a emote of Jeff Marvel's avatar and have it named as : factually wrong

[benji]

When will they realize that intersectionality is only a thing among gender queer college sociology students?

That's because they use intersectionality wrong. They use it inversely, what they mean is solidarity. (Which when they say it means mandatory agreement with everything they say.)

Intersectionality means what it essentially says, when you exist at an intersection of multiple groups. The classic example will always be the original, when Williams encountered things for Black people it assumed she would be male, when she encountered things for women it assumed she would be white. Her argument was that things built for these groups were not actually accounting for all their members, this was the critique, it was about specific groups not all of society or mass groups like political parties.

Muslims and Jews, Blacks and Asians, Queers and Palestine, etc. aren't examples of "intersectionality" at all. They're lumped together as "marginalized" because they're minority groups in the West. But they would only have things in common to unite over against the "majority" except these are already addressed by liberalism. There's no relevant "solidarity" these groups hold, especially not for "Leftists", which is why their particulars have to be erased and they're treated as generic Leftists of different skin colors or whatever.

The Israel stuff is especially amusing because Israel was founded as a very socialist nation and kept that "solidarity" until the Socialist Bloc broke up in their "intersectionality" failure.

Acknowledging our existence is a losing battle because the white guy who drives a truck everyday doesn't understand it.

You don't even understand it. Trans people can't explain it to other trans people without sounding nuts.

[Daffy Duck]

tasteless post...

Lmao.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/how-big-was-lara-croft-back-in-the-90s.1026234/page-3#post-131716974

[Jansen]

It's tasteless cuz Angelina had to have her titties removed

[benji]

Synonymous with the rise of PlayStation despite releasing on other consoles.

Well, yes, it was originally a Saturn title. But the Saturn was already failing in the West and Sony immediately signed Tomb Raider to be a console exclusive for II and III. 

It wasn't until they had driven the franchise into the ground that the later ones got Dreamcast ports. The biggest sellers in the franchise were PlayStation exclusives.

They were "technically not exclusives" like GTA III-VC because they got PC ports but they were effectively PlayStation exclusives like GTA was.

[Daffy Duck]

Synonymous with the rise of PlayStation despite releasing on other consoles.

Well, yes, it was originally a Saturn title. But the Saturn was already failing in the West and Sony immediately signed Tomb Raider to be a console exclusive for II and III. 

It wasn't until they had driven the franchise into the ground that the later ones got Dreamcast ports. The biggest sellers in the franchise were PlayStation exclusives.

They were "technically not exclusives" like GTA III-VC because they got PC ports but they were effectively PlayStation exclusives like GTA was.

Yeah that take is always weird to me, like you say, yes it launched on Saturn too, but ask anyone back then what they associate it with the answer will be PlayStation

[benji]

And its advertising had Sony backing. People forget Sony didn't have a mascot or any franchises like console makers had long been wedded to, they backed advertising third party titles (and eventually buying their own stable of developers starting with Psygnosis) which boosted the overall PlayStation brand as the place for all that stuff. That's what Microsoft took note of and ran with, especially around stuff like Xbox Live. People who aren't console warriors aren't going to remember that stuff wasn't technically exclusive. Sega shit the bed and Nintendo told third party developers they didn't want them, so there was a long period where stuff was essentially exclusive on PlayStation if you didn't have a PC. And it continued into the next generation, Microsoft had to spend a lot of money to break the PlayStation de facto exclusivity of most titles. (Which paid off for Sony when the PS3 was... well... less friendly let's say. But now games businesses models were based on a multiplatform strategy.)

[Nintex]

PC gaming was a small market compared to console in those days anyway. 
The 7 million units Tomb Raider sold was probably 80% PSX, 10% Saturn and 10% PC. 

Anyone skilled enough to tinker with a PC in those days could also crack the games and before they came up with CD keys you could just burn the CD-ROM as is and 'own' the games. 
Not so strange too considering all the hardware/software issues you could run into trying to run a game on PC.

[benji]

I believe the first Tomb Raider did very well on PC, especially after its 3Dfx patch, that's why it got expansions. II was probably like 90% PS1 though.

One thing to remember is that Europe was not yet PlayStation dominated during the first Tomb Raider, so it would have sold more to PC. By II, the PS1 had taken over.

[Nintex]

I still need to pick up the Trilogy Remaster was it any good?

[benji]

Actually, that's one underplayed story about Tomb Raider. It proved the UK, and effectively Europe, could produce global console hits. Alongside Rayman and Sony buying Psygnosis in the first place, that did a lot. GTA hadn't hit yet. All that Amiga/PC development moved over to console right when GTA finally did hit. The Ubisoft we know now is built essentially in that moment. Eidos as a company existed solely because of Tomb Raider's success, which probably explains why it did so poorly afterwards.

Rare could be dismissed because they were part of Nintendo, there were other lesser knowns developing for American publishers, but Tomb Raider was a Euro developer for a Euro publisher.

[Taco Bell Tower]

tasteless post...

Lmao.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/how-big-was-lara-croft-back-in-the-90s.1026234/page-3#post-131716974

Surprised the person he responded to didn't get banned for boys rhetorical club 

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/bill-maher-plastics-are-going-to-kill-us.1031703/#post-131422758

User Banned (1 Month): Inappropriate Commentary

News at 11.
Can they kill him first? Maybe an impaling?

[Nintex]

Actually, that's one underplayed story about Tomb Raider. It proved the UK, and effectively Europe, could produce global console hits. Alongside Rayman and Sony buying Psygnosis in the first place, that did a lot. GTA hadn't hit yet. All that Amiga/PC development moved over to console right when GTA finally did hit. The Ubisoft we know now is built essentially in that moment. Eidos as a company existed solely because of Tomb Raider's success, which probably explains why it did so poorly afterwards.

Rare could be dismissed because they were part of Nintendo, there were other lesser knowns developing for American publishers, but Tomb Raider was a Euro developer for a Euro publisher.

Yep and lots of Rareware success also had to do with their connections to Midway and the US gaming industry in general.

Europe hasn't had an 'independent' hit since Killzone I think even if Sony was attached they weren't that involved with development of the first game.

[Orange Juice Box]

Nothing Loud is a good budding serial killer candidate. Absolutely desperate for attention, has some forensics, extremely impulsive, empty and corrupted deep in the root of his soul. He also looks like one.

Favorite bit is him telling a sob story about a friend that was so deep in drug abuse that their teeth were falling and on the same post congratulating himself for getting his fixed the next day 



The many faces of NL.

If the life he describes is real it's pretty fucking amazing.  But he comes off as such a horrible scold and dismissive jerk. You would assume if all the things he says were real he would be a humble polymath.  Instead it just sounds like he got several jobs and was fired within 8 weeks because he's intolerable.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/politico-exclusive-trump-expected-to-select-robert-f-kennedy-jr-to-lead-hhs-update-confirmed.1036320/page-9#post-131676051

User banned (1 month): inflammatory rhetoric

When the incoming administration is going to be on track to killing thousands of its own people based on their misguided at best policies, not to mention what they'll greenlight for Russia and Israel to do to Ukraine and the remaining Palestinians, Biden and Harris' tepid stance on Israel is going to be a distant memory.

Palestinians were already on the path to total destruction due to Biden/Harris. The only way to convince fair-weather liberals to care about the lives and rights of Middle Eastern people is by forcing them to take on all the damage of another Trump presidency.

Right now, it looks like Michigan may have been lost due to ME voters abstaining or voting third-party. The DNC still lost every other swing state but at least this gives ME votes some value in the future.

The Biden administration was worse than every other presidency other than Bush on this issue. This is the democratic, legal, and nonviolent way to fight the old-fashioned white supremacist thinking that some people will accept lower standards of life. That's why you have to fund tax cuts to billionaires, lose health care coverage, and probably pay ridiculous prices for your next rounds of electronics.

[benji]

So are trans people a tiny less than a percent of the country that is nothing or are we the tipping point in deciding elections?

Acknowledging our existence is a losing battle because the white guy who drives a truck everyday doesn't understand it.

This threads whole conversation misses the point of what it's responding to.

The trans stuff is a symptom of the larger problem, that's why Trump's "they/them not us" was so devastating. Harris and the Democrats were trying to argue she's totally normal, moderate, mainstream, GREW UP IN MIDDLE CLASS FAMILY, etc. to show she cares about everyone. The trans ads aren't saying "don't you hate trans people? Vote Trump." They're saying "Harris/Democrats claim to be mainstream, but she says stuff like this, can you trust her to not prioritize radical minority demands?"

Obviously, ResetERA.com thinks, yes, you should always prioritize the most radical and extreme demands that any idiot makes otherwise they'll flee in droves, but in an election targeting building a coalition of a majority of people this isn't effective strategy.

The ResetERA.com method of building a coalition is taking the most extreme position you can take then chastising everyone else for rejecting it despite its obvious moral superiority. All while trying to convince themselves it's actually the position of the vast majority. So you lie to yourself and tell yourself Latinx love both illegal immigration and being called Latinx, that women must love abortion even past birth, that Black people hate having police anywhere and the rule of law in general, that Americans despise the concept of the American dream and hard work especially, etc. Then you're required to go, were my deliberately radical ideas not the majority view?



No, it must be that everyone else is immoral bigots who will be judged during the Second Coming Revolution.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/politico-centrist-dems-seize-opening-at-the-dnc-%E2%80%98i-don%E2%80%99t-want-to-be-the-freak-show-party%E2%80%99.1037832/page-6#post-131760516

Yeah. That will teach them. Cater to the left who just gets pissed off and doesn't vote anyways of things aren't close to or perfect for them

This is not a real thing.

That is factually wrong.

[Propagandhim]

When will they realize that intersectionality is only a thing among gender queer college sociology students?

That's because they use intersectionality wrong. They use it inversely, what they mean is solidarity. (Which when they say it means mandatory agreement with everything they say.)

Intersectionality means what it essentially says, when you exist at an intersection of multiple groups. The classic example will always be the original, when Williams encountered things for Black people it assumed she would be male, when she encountered things for women it assumed she would be white. Her argument was that things built for these groups were not actually accounting for all their members, this was the critique, it was about specific groups not all of society or mass groups like political parties.

Muslims and Jews, Blacks and Asians, Queers and Palestine, etc. aren't examples of "intersectionality" at all. They're lumped together as "marginalized" because they're minority groups in the West. But they would only have things in common to unite over against the "majority" except these are already addressed by liberalism. There's no relevant "solidarity" these groups hold, especially not for "Leftists", which is why their particulars have to be erased and they're treated as generic Leftists of different skin colors or whatever.

The Israel stuff is especially amusing because Israel was founded as a very socialist nation and kept that "solidarity" until the Socialist Bloc broke up in their "intersectionality" failure.

Acknowledging our existence is a losing battle because the white guy who drives a truck everyday doesn't understand it.

You don't even understand it. Trans people can't explain it to other trans people without sounding nuts.

Yeah.  It always struck me that "intersectionality" is meant to be descriptive of how different forms of discrimination interact, not prescriptive of how society should be organized because it is only useful as an analytical tool for understanding specific experiences of discrimination at the individual level.  It can't be a blueprint for political organizing or policy because that *always* ends up leading to a way to rank different forms of oppression - and as was posted before, it's just oppression olympics at that point, where you're aggrandizing one group's pain to piss off the next.