Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2)

[Eric Cartman]

No one is right all the time but most people move as if they are right all the time (because they should) so it has me thinking.

There is something that I believe in my bones that I am also completely wrong about, I wonder what that thing is?


Like I burn sage but I don't think is does anything for vibes or against spirits. Of course then you ask why do you do it Soap? Because what if I'm wrong?

[NekoFever]

What's funny is that Morrigan's downfall was also over a bullshit one day ban, one I'm pretty sure she defended vehemently. Oh how the tables have turned

She seems really bitter that she bowed to peer pressure and stepped down while other mods and admins continue to fuck up but just ignore the criticism and carry on

[Besticus Maximus]

it is of the utmost importance that donkey kong insider reports are treated with the respect that they deserve 

[jooseloose]

Same shit as always in the Community thread 

Mods do something fucking stupid, pages of posts complaining, mods actively ignore the thread for days and days before B-Dubs finally posts his usual massive word salad posts playing the victim

[Snoopy]

Dubs enters the thread

[BIONIC]

I was not involved in the discussion or dolling out of bans around the DK thread, and will not comment on it one way or the other.

Just want to point out in regards to us reading posts in the least charitable light, and just looking for excuses to ban accordingly.
This is what you see:

You do not see the many reports we discuss and reject because we chose to read something in a charitable light.

[BIONIC]

Also they quietly unbanned that Kayos dude with zero acknowledgment of wrongdoing

[Cheers]

Really enjoying members dressing them down over DK 😂

[davepoobond]

Also they quietly unbanned that Kayos dude with zero acknowledgment of wrongdoing

They did it quietly because they would be harassed otherwise!

[Yulwei v2]

which xbox warriors is bdubs even talking about? The mods and the ponies harassed a bunch of them into creating their own offshoot site. another bunch were permabanned over the years. there are few xbox fans left on era.

they did the same to ninties as well. there are nowhere near as many as there were before.

these ponies won't be happy until the whole of gaming side is just two threads, Playstation Hardware | OT and Naughty Dog Studio | OT

[benji]

Correction:  I obsess about the same 1 users.  Where else am I gonna get commentary about white people or capitalism everytime I search Nepenthe + Resetera in google.  I'm gonna do it right now.

Boom.  


There's nowhere else on earth I can get this.  Do you understand me?  And you want to take this away from me?!  Are you sick???!

I like how she doesn't think this would be the case with socialism. Despite the example of every instance of it in history leading to a new elite class with even greater power. Everyone outside the Party is equal and she assume she'll be in the Party so I guess it's fine. (jk she has no clue about any of this)

There is a user that seemingly only came in here to justify users platforming and attacking me based on social media posts from someone we banned two years ago that still seems to be obsessed with and cyberstalking me.

aka hachikoma reads his public posts on his public forum

I am also not the only victim of all this. A few weeks ago it happened to another member of staff as well. There are multiple members of staff who have straight up said to me that they don't engage in political discussion on this forum anymore because it will just lead to them getting attacked, dogpiled, and accused of bigotry. Which literally happened to me last week

Maybe stop being a bigot? White, bald and male fragility much?

We have, in the past, put the names of the staff members who issued warnings and bans in the user message. What wound up happening is that users proceeded to target and harass said members of staff despite the fact that this was also blatantly bannable behavior. We managed to drive it off the site, but the harassment would continue on platforms like discord and twitter (and now bluesky, though they generally make up who did what now). Hence, us deciding to make the names of any staff members involved private. Despite this, the harassment and insane accusations continue. For example, whenever Sony warriors get banned they will go to their discord and complain about Judge or Ghostcrew, despite the fact that neither of them would have anything to do with said bans. Doesn't matter, they still wind up getting harassed for it. It's the same with the Xbox warriors thinking Transistor banned them, when half the time he's not even involved! Shit, I once got accused of taking bribes from Microsoft to change how we moderated Era!

Shoot, at multiple points in the past people had tried to use Ceri's childhood trauma against him in these exact sorts of situations.

This is also why I am the only one replying to any of you, I'd rather be the target of harassment than see any other members of staff go through it. One of the things I learned over the years is that it's better if I make the staff posts when possible because if there's a bad reaction the heat doesn't wind up on the mods who actually made the decision and helped write it. That's a big part of why you see me here right now, so you don't wind up shitting on everyone else and driving people off. The annoying part is this leads to the aforementioned harassment on platforms like discord and bluesky.

So, yes, we tried that, but found that, even with the action you are talking about being bannable, that people still wound up getting harassed and targeted and brigaded.

The guy was talking about putting the information publicly like Famiboards does. Instead B-Dubs immediately jumps to made up stories about "harassment off-site" from them putting the responsible parties in private messages. Then contradicts his own argument by spending a bunch of time whining about how hiding all this information hasn't done anything to stop it and now has people "making things up" even the staff refuse to say anything at all publicly or even in this semi-public thread. Then he further justifies the information suppression by saying it will only lead to him getting the harassment even though he doesn't get any. His claim of getting harassment from people posting on Bluesky is outright false. People talking about you on a platform you don't run and seemingly don't even have an account on is not harassment. Blueball coming here to spread fascist talking points about me is harassment, him doing it in Fat4all's replies on Bluesky is not.

B-Dubs wouldn't have even seen hachikoma's message if he didn't follow them on Bluesky, had others following them on Bluesky, was following the other members who retweeted it, was reading here, etc. The only exception was in this specific instance someone posted it on Era knowing they'd get banned for it. That wasn't hachikoma or Fat4all doing harassment, it was the guy who posted it on there.

And the entire reason B-Dubs gets this treatment is because it's verboten to say anything critical to any staff member on there. Every single member knows they can't attack B-Dubs or any of the other staff for supporting genocide. Where are they supposed to do this criticism if not off-site?

Notice how B-Dubs tries to turn the culture of the forum into a problem because of how it restricts staff from posting on political topics. That they'll get treated like every other member does. That other members will treat them how people like Nepenthe treat everyone including B-Dubs who she publicly told needed to sacrifice his life rather than vote for Democrats. It's hilarious that they think banning wrongthink is the solution to every problem but when it comes to the fact that staff apparently can't post on certain topics without being "attacked, dogpiled, and accused of bigotry" he never thinks to ban the people doing this and do it consistently across the forum.

He can't come out and say why, that it would set off the cliques that have the real power as it cuts down both their members and their power, so instead he has to create this conspiracy of the users against staff. Then as his examples what does he do? Point to the actions of the cliques. All his examples over the years have always been clique members. hachikoma isn't some single random that got banned, it's a prominent member of TransEra who still has significant sway in that clique especially because they're a "big deal" on Bluesky.

But apparently not being able to ever post on the forum doesn't mean they won't ever finish any of the shit they said they were going to do like rewriting the rules.

I was not involved in the discussion or dolling out of bans around the DK thread, and will not comment on it one way or the other.

Just want to point out in regards to us reading posts in the least charitable light, and just looking for excuses to ban accordingly.
This is what you see:

You do not see the many reports we discuss and reject because we chose to read something in a charitable light.

Then that's your own fault. If you were proud of your work why would you hide it? You admit you aren't when your defense is that it will just lead to you getting criticized if people knew the truth.

It's also hilarious that one of the staff is rushing in to say "we're actually overly lenient and could ban a lot more!" You realize that most of your accusers hate you guys for not banning enough libs and chuds, right?

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/helldivers-2-announced-for-xbox-series-x-s-releasing-august-26th.1234968/page-12#post-142281672

 User Banned (1 Month): Dismissing genocide, antagonizing other members

Better off playing this one on PC or PlayStation. Don't support a company committing genocide and destroying the gaming industry.

I am buying 2 copies on Series X!

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/at-least-51-dead-in-central-texas-flooding-20-campers-unaccounted-for.1236249/page-3#post-142368555

Death toll up to 69 now…

Nice.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/at-least-70-dead-in-central-texas-flooding-20-campers-unaccounted-for.1236249/page-3#post-142370184

 User banned (1 month): Extremely inappropriate commentary in a sensitive thread

Death toll up to 69 now…

Everyone resist the urge to say "nice"

[jooseloose]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/helldivers-2-announced-for-xbox-series-x-s-releasing-august-26th.1234968/page-12#post-142281672

 User Banned (1 Month): Dismissing genocide, antagonizing other members

Better off playing this one on PC or PlayStation. Don't support a company committing genocide and destroying the gaming industry.

I am buying 2 copies on Series X!

Not buying the game on Playstation = BAN

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/schreier-deep-job-cuts-across-xbox-everwild-zenimax-online-ip-perfect-dark-unannounced-projects-cancelled-t10-50-cut-the-initiative-closed.1233783/#post-142200606

 User Banned (2 Weeks): Dismissive Commentary; History of Inflammatory Commentary

Damn, even Zenimax got hit too? But it looks like only for marketing team, which makes sense since they don't have anything imminent. They'll hire new ones at some point.

Nevertheless, hopefully everyone affected can land on a much better job.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cancel-your-game-pass.1234761/page-16#post-142371243

 User banned (permanent): Trolling a serious thread. Long history of similar behavior.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cancel-your-game-pass.1234761/page-18#post-142390047

 User banned (permanent): Troll account

Eh. These boycotts often reflect an overly simplified world view. If you're a U.S. taxpayer and/or a Trump supporter (which appears to be the case for many on this forum), I fail to see how your meager sacrifice of a video game service is a meaningful one.

The global economy is far too interconnected to coherently pick out any one service or product as a boycott target in any event. If you're boycotting MS, are you willing to boycott every business it owns and every other company that does business with MS and refuses to stop doing so?

Sony is doing business with MS right now in a million ways including selling Xbox games on its platform and porting its own games to Xbox. All of those business ties fill MS's coffers and fund the purported genocide you claim you oppose. Will you demand that Sony sever those ties? Will you boycott if Sony refuses to do so? What exactly is your level of commitment here?

You'll boycott GP and remove windows from your home PC but are you willing to quit your job unless your employer also agrees to strip windows off its PCs? Are you willing to boycott Nintendo and Sony unless they refuse to stop selling goods and services to Israel? Are you willing to personally sacrifice anything for this great cause? Or does your commitment only extend to virtue signaling on gaming forums?

This is embarrassing. Do better.

[HaughtyFrank]

I was not involved in the discussion or dolling out of bans around the DK thread, and will not comment on it one way or the other.

Just want to point out in regards to us reading posts in the least charitable light, and just looking for excuses to ban accordingly.
This is what you see:

You do not see the many reports we discuss and reject because we chose to read something in a charitable light.

Then that's your own fault. If you were proud of your work why would you hide it? You admit you aren't when your defense is that it will just lead to you getting criticized if people knew the truth.

It's also hilarious that one of the staff is rushing in to say "we're actually overly lenient and could ban a lot more!" You realize that most of your accusers hate you guys for not banning enough libs and chuds, right?

I also want to know what posts they're lenient on and which ones they're not. Because last time this blew up they were lenient on "Israel must be destroyed" and incredibly strict on "Hamas has sex slaves" (and then ignored the UN report about Hamas inflicting sexual violence on the hostages)

[Eric Cartman]

I'm assuming this idiot just watched some youtuber reference this, because they clearly don't fucking understand it or they wouldn't have pointed out such a self own.

The red dots represent

User Banned (Permanent): Downplaying concerns of genocide on today of all days, Trolling, Account in Junior Status, Invoking She-Who-Must-Be-Named
I really enjoyed Hogwarts Legacy, it was a really good use of the IP

while the galaxy brain mods look at the red dots and go "WOW GOTTA BAN PEOPLE HARDER!", while the empty spaces they figure must be fine are

When did you stop beating your wife?

in-a-discord-with-moderators posters

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cancel-your-game-pass.1234761/page-18#post-142390047

 User banned (permanent): Troll account

Eh. These boycotts often reflect an overly simplified world view. If you're a U.S. taxpayer and/or a Trump supporter (which appears to be the case for many on this forum), I fail to see how your meager sacrifice of a video game service is a meaningful one.

The global economy is far too interconnected to coherently pick out any one service or product as a boycott target in any event. If you're boycotting MS, are you willing to boycott every business it owns and every other company that does business with MS and refuses to stop doing so?

Sony is doing business with MS right now in a million ways including selling Xbox games on its platform and porting its own games to Xbox. All of those business ties fill MS's coffers and fund the purported genocide you claim you oppose. Will you demand that Sony sever those ties? Will you boycott if Sony refuses to do so? What exactly is your level of commitment here?

You'll boycott GP and remove windows from your home PC but are you willing to quit your job unless your employer also agrees to strip windows off its PCs? Are you willing to boycott Nintendo and Sony unless they refuse to stop selling goods and services to Israel? Are you willing to personally sacrifice anything for this great cause? Or does your commitment only extend to virtue signaling on gaming forums?

This is embarrassing. Do better.

They still think someone only posting facts is trolling.

[TacoWallace]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cancel-your-game-pass.1234761/page-19#post-142396002

first of all, thank you OP for making the thread and bringing further awareness. every effort goes a long way for each person that commits to it.

I can't get over how a bare minimum OP regurgitating the most basic things covered in other ongoing threads is considered a "serious" thread.

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cancel-your-game-pass.1234761/page-19#post-142396002

first of all, thank you OP for making the thread and bringing further awareness. every effort goes a long way for each person that commits to it.

I can't get over how a bare minimum OP regurgitating the most basic things covered in other ongoing threads is considered a "serious" thread.

my wife and I haven't bought McDonald's food for nearly 2 years. I know that corporation lost something like $7 billion which is a sign that a boycott works, but coupled with that, perhaps McDonald's employees also suffered layoffs. now, why would that all of a sudden make me want to go and spend money on McDonald's?

He said this same thing in the BDS thread. He's basing off that video Messofanego posted. The Bire members will remember benji actually looking up McDonald's annual statements and seeing the company has only increased its revenue since the boycott started.

[benji]

What's the next complex issue you're going to start "just asking questions" about despite the clear facts? This?

A White House spokesperson highlighted Mamdani’s use of the phrase in an email to PolitiFact July 1, days after we published our June 26 fact-check of President Donald Trump who called Mamdani "communist" in a Truth Social post. The White House didn’t send us evidence to support Trump’s statement before our fact-check was posted; multiple political scientists and communism experts told us Mamdani’s mayoral race positions did not amount to communism. We rated Trump’s statement False.

...

After reviewing the tape and re-interviewing experts, we decided not to change our False rating. Mamdani’s views in the mayoral race do not reflect communism, and experts found his 2021 remark too brief to reach detailed conclusions.

...

Throughout his roughly 40-minute remarks, Mamdani praised democratic socialism. The relevant portion of the clip starts around minute 10, when he spoke about acting on an agenda based on conviction of beliefs, whether they are popular or not.

"But then there are also other issues that we firmly believe in, whether it's BDS (Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions of Israel), right, or whether it's the end goal of seizing the means of production, where we do not have the same level of support at this very moment.

"And what I want to say is that it is critical that the way that we organize, the way that we set up our you know, set up our work and our priorities, that we do not leave any one issue for the other, that we do not meet a moment and only look at what people are ready for, but that we are doing both of these things in tandem, because it is critical for us to both meet people where they're at and to also organize and organize for what is correct and for what is right and to ensure over time we can bring people to that issue."

Was that a clear call for communism?

Experts in political parties and movements said Mamdani’s passing remark is associated with communism, but it’s hard to say much more about Mamdani’s views because he did not elaborate.

Just another centrist who won't end capitalism, colonialism and white supremacy.

Guys this is the part where you're supposed to do a Google search on the Internet, not talk to communism experts. The fuck kind of fact checking is this

UPDATE:

[BIONIC]

Constructive has too many new posts to bother quoting everything but a quick selection:

Ok, I'll happily chime in.
What are some of the suggestions du jour?
I'll then give my personal opinion on them. And no one mistakes them for official staff pronouncements.

There is one obvious solution that would largely improve the forum, but I don't think I'm allowed to make it. :P

If you request my resignation. You have it. Freedom at last.

Not yours

Still buttmad years later

———

Good discourse or not. Since making the decision to engage with this thread this morning, my heart rate has been elevated. I need to have the time and headspace in order to engage with this thread, because like it or not; It's also walking on egg shells for me.

[benji]

There is one obvious solution that would largely improve the forum, but I don't think I'm allowed to make it. :P

If you request my resignation. You have it. Freedom at last.

Not yours

The problem is once you get Khrushchev-dubs to resign, who is your Brezhnev?

[Besticus Maximus]

Should do it the old fashioned way, find some young urchin and present him as the secret legitimate heir of cerium, conceived before the long nap

[SpicyCannoli]

Morrigan is going on the shitlist for a perm isn't she 

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/helldivers-2-announced-for-xbox-series-x-s-releasing-august-26th.1234968/page-12#post-142281672

 User Banned (1 Month): Dismissing genocide, antagonizing other members

Better off playing this one on PC or PlayStation. Don't support a company committing genocide and destroying the gaming industry.

I am buying 2 copies on Series X!

Literally the same bans for Kingdom Come, Cyberpunk 2077 and the Wizard Game 

[Taco Bell Tower]

Constructive has too many new posts to bother quoting everything but a quick selection:

Good discourse or not. Since making the decision to engage with this thread this morning, my heart rate has been elevated. I need to have the time and headspace in order to engage with this thread, because like it or not; It's also walking on egg shells for me.

IT'S A FUCKING VIDEO GAME FORUM 

[nachobro]

all these mods say its so bad for them and they wanna not being doing it. so quit bitch  no one ever just says that to them

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cancel-your-game-pass.1234761/page-16#post-142371243

 User banned (permanent): Trolling a serious thread. Long history of similar behavior.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cancel-your-game-pass.1234761/page-18#post-142390047

 User banned (permanent): Troll account

Eh. These boycotts often reflect an overly simplified world view. If you're a U.S. taxpayer and/or a Trump supporter (which appears to be the case for many on this forum), I fail to see how your meager sacrifice of a video game service is a meaningful one.

The global economy is far too interconnected to coherently pick out any one service or product as a boycott target in any event. If you're boycotting MS, are you willing to boycott every business it owns and every other company that does business with MS and refuses to stop doing so?

Sony is doing business with MS right now in a million ways including selling Xbox games on its platform and porting its own games to Xbox. All of those business ties fill MS's coffers and fund the purported genocide you claim you oppose. Will you demand that Sony sever those ties? Will you boycott if Sony refuses to do so? What exactly is your level of commitment here?

You'll boycott GP and remove windows from your home PC but are you willing to quit your job unless your employer also agrees to strip windows off its PCs? Are you willing to boycott Nintendo and Sony unless they refuse to stop selling goods and services to Israel? Are you willing to personally sacrifice anything for this great cause? Or does your commitment only extend to virtue signaling on gaming forums?

This is embarrassing. Do better.

FliX, can you show me on the aeroplane where these the bad man touched you?

I was not involved in the discussion or dolling out of bans around the DK thread, and will not comment on it one way or the other.
Just want to point out in regards to us reading posts in the least charitable light, and just looking for excuses to ban accordingly.
This is what you see:

You do not see the many reports we discuss and reject because we chose to read something in a charitable light.