The #MutualAid Housewives of Bluesky County

[Propagandhim]

What about AI doing realistic depictions of children in porn?  The victim is everyone who has to live next to these sick bastards.

[BIONIC]

It’s always the people you most expect.

[Propagandhim]

I know the pedophile hysteria thing is used as redmeat for anyone's political team, but these people would effortlessly proliferate enormous amounts of AI child porn in society at the click of a button the second you allow them to.  And then they'd thumb their nose at you, daring you and everyone else to "prove" harm while insisting the only way to tell the difference is by wading through all this sick shit to find out what's real and what's "victimless" versions of this pigshit.  The victim is the whole world.  This isn’t something to tolerate or debate - these ghouls need to be shut down immediately and without hesitation.

[Snoopy]

So I went looking to see if cartoon child porn is considered a good way to help pedos control themselves. Results were mixed. Some say aye. It gives them a release and acts as a safety valve. Some say it reinforces pedo behaviour and bolsters the pedo community. Who knows, but one thing I did find out was the jokes I made about Amir0x being jailed for love is something pedos actually use as a real defense. They claim they're not child rapists. They're child lovers.

[Propagandhim]

oh, i'll give em a release alright
a release from this mortal coil
express delivery, signature not required
hard style

[BIONIC]

A high velocity release

[Jansen]

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https://ngl.link/violetzwren

Not smart

[Jansen]

Probably posted but they rekeeted it so...

[Propagandhim]

So if trans folks aren't being killed off, which we know they aren't, how are they wiping them out?  How is the number of trans folks being wiped out?  Conversion therapy?  So conversion therapy actually works?  Wow.

[benji]

Any examples? Like, ever?

[Besticus Maximus]

Any examples? Like, ever?

Samus Aran 

[almostheathen]

Any examples? Like, ever?

Janet Reno

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

So if trans folks aren't being killed off, which we know they aren't, how are they wiping them out?  How is the number of trans folks being wiped out?  Conversion therapy?  So conversion therapy actually works?  Wow.

If a man says that he is a woman, that is evidence you can literally become who you were always meant to be. That the defined power roles of gender are a buncha nonsense. 

If you say that that man is not a woman, that he is a man - that's you attempting to wipe trans folks out. By failing to affirm his belief the truth that he is a woman, that's you literally wiping out a trans person. That's you reinforcing nonsense gender roles and committing genocide. 

What we need to do is realise that the defined power roles of gender are a bunch of nonsense and determine an individuals maleness or femaleness solely on their biolog.. wait no that the opposite of what I meant don't put this in, oh shit oh fuck...

[Tektonic]

i am a car. i drove on the road, but got hit by another car. and they totalled me.
why did that car erase my identity?

[benji]

If a man says that he is a woman, that is evidence you can literally become who you were always meant to be. That the defined power roles of gender are a buncha nonsense.

See, this continues to be the step that to me feels like everyone just accepted uncritically and I can't figure out why. Not only is it unfalsifiable it doesn't make any sense as a claim in and of itself.

How can someone possibly know if they feel like a woman or man? It presupposes that anyone, or everyone, knows what it feels like to be a gender. But gender isn't a thing that anyone can feel like.

You're baking multiple unfalsifiable claims into each other:
1. Gender has a feel.
2. People know what every gender feels like.
3. There is a correct gender for everyone.
4. People can identify which gender feels correct and perfectly so.
5. Whatever gender you feel like at any moment is correct. (Not sure on this one, reading the theory is unclear on this point.)

Nobody's ever demonstrated a single one of these to be true or even possibly true, let alone all of them. The amount of premises you have to grant is incredible. Perhaps the biggest one is that "social constructs" are not in fact constructed by society and imposed (if they are) from the outside but are entirely an individual identity based on personal emotions. When Tom Hanks was stranded on that island he constantly felt his gender.

If it's not questionable how anyone could believe this to begin with, they don't stop there, they go a whole additional step and conclude that this "feeling" is proof that their body has a medical disorder that has never been identified and requires them to pursue something literally impossible.

It's one thing for abject morons like Shreds and Kyuuji, but how could any field of any considerable reasoning take any of this remotely seriously? But then I remember my one of my own and how Marxism still holds such sway despite similarly being based on unfalsifiable premises for which no evidence exists.

At least with typical religions they have that whole centuries of cultural build-up thing, this is like people becoming Scientologists. They even try to remove their thetans for the same reason.

i am a car. i drove on the road, but got hit by another car. and they totalled me.
why did that car erase my identity?

Oh, look, the One Joke.

[Jansen]

Their poor parents 😔

[Tektonic]

well, topaz cured, britt flew to safety..... i guess that's the last we will be hearing about her them right?

[Propagandhim]

If a man says that he is a woman, that is evidence you can literally become who you were always meant to be. That the defined power roles of gender are a buncha nonsense.

See, this continues to be the step that to me feels like everyone just accepted uncritically and I can't figure out why. Not only is it unfalsifiable it doesn't make any sense as a claim in and of itself.

How can someone possibly know if they feel like a woman or man? It presupposes that anyone, or everyone, knows what it feels like to be a gender. But gender isn't a thing that anyone can feel like.

You're baking multiple unfalsifiable claims into each other:
1. Gender has a feel.
2. People know what every gender feels like.
3. There is a correct gender for everyone.
4. People can identify which gender feels correct and perfectly so.
5. Whatever gender you feel like at any moment is correct. (Not sure on this one, reading the theory is unclear on this point.)

Nobody's ever demonstrated a single one of these to be true or even possibly true, let alone all of them. The amount of premises you have to grant is incredible. Perhaps the biggest one is that "social constructs" are not in fact constructed by society and imposed (if they are) from the outside but are entirely an individual identity based on personal emotions. When Tom Hanks was stranded on that island he constantly felt his gender.

If it's not questionable how anyone could believe this to begin with, they don't stop there, they go a whole additional step and conclude that this "feeling" is proof that their body has a medical disorder that has never been identified and requires them to pursue something literally impossible.

It's one thing for abject morons like Shreds and Kyuuji, but how could any field of any considerable reasoning take any of this remotely seriously? But then I remember my one of my own and how Marxism still holds such sway despite similarly being based on unfalsifiable premises for which no evidence exists.

At least with typical religions they have that whole centuries of cultural build-up thing, this is like people becoming Scientologists. They even try to remove their thetans for the same reason.

i am a car. i drove on the road, but got hit by another car. and they totalled me.
why did that car erase my identity?

Oh, look, the One Joke.

I don't know.  I definitely agree with the second part of your post, that people believe and go along with things in dogma.  But I do think "gender identity" has a "feel" insofar as people have a durable, consistent, internally felt self-classification.  I do think I feel like a man and not a woman - and I do think I can use my internal barometer to differentiate the two even though I've never experienced being a woman, just because I use some implicit reasoning to comport what I feel with the feeling of being a man because I have no dysphoria.   Because men and women are biologically different and have a distinct nature, I think there's some instinctual expression going on that I can infer is happening.  I don't believe I have to know "what it feels like to be a woman" in order to know that the label “man” fits me and woman does not.  I dont look down at my cock as a reference point, that sense is just there.  Like people who are right-handed people have never tried to live as left-handers, but they can still report from early childhood that writing with their right hand feels natural while writing with the left feels awkward.

 
I also think there are other mental states that we don't question.  Feeling confident, feeling homesick, etc....none of those are observable to other people and we don't dismiss them as meaningless simply because they are introspective.  And again, we use self-reporting in healthcare for reporting on the intensity of pain, anxiety, sexual orientation, etc.  
I will agree that like other self-knowledge it can be confused...and there is an unsettling coincidence of autism (and depression, and just general weirdness and not abiding by societal norms like getting a job) with transgenderism which makes me think there's a pathological link to a disorder and not simply something we should accept as normal and not treatable as a mental health problem.  Like its very doubtful that there isn't something else going on and everything about a trans-person is 100% normal aside from their identity.  Also, even if research eventually showed that trans brains match those of their identified gender, the idea of being “born in the wrong body” would still mean they are not actually men or women per their identified preference, because those labels inherently include the body as well.  I distinctly remember a dating site putting out data that shows 99.8% of heterosexual-identified men and 99.9% of heterosexual identified females do not want trans people included in their search results.  Numbers that high suggest that most people carry an innate, intuitive sense of what defines a man or a woman even if they or supreme court justices wont say it out loud, and that the transgender interpretation of those categories is artificial.

[simiansmarts]

Their poor parents 😔

He admit it! Why is it an insult then??

[benji]

Except you can't do that because your sex is not an allowed referent.

I still reject the idea that you can infer you feel like a male. Saying you don't have dysphoria simply begs the question. Handiness, emotions, pain, all have common referents. The feel of the other sex does not, you can't know it doesn't feel exactly the same, you're supposing there's a difference in feeling absent any evidence that there is. Nobody's ever experienced the other sex, billions have experienced the various emotions.

This comes back to the assertion being made in which in order to demonstrate you feel your sex or gender properly that you're going to compare and contrast stereotypes you hold about the genders and these are personal. There is an element to this in emotions as they differ across cultures but we've managed to get past that with simply language which I think can be taken as a display of the common referents. Whereas the most I've seen about being a man is wanting to penetrate things, as proven by turning literally anything that exists into a supposed metaphor for penetration. I don't find this very satisfactory as a hypothesis. And referring to the stereotypes is just reifying those gender roles that are supposedly being smashed by claiming if you can't open pickle jars and want to be penetrated that you're a woman.

As for any kind of self-referent, I approach this additionally from the mental health angle: they're rather obviously delusional. We don't trust that a schizophrenic is correct about what they experience, we don't trust anorexics or other eating disorders, we don't trust yts or yt adjacents claiming they know what it's like to be a different race, etc. But if someone claims a different sex we're supposed to pretend they're accurately accessing this. Why? On what grounds? It's the only thing where we reverse everything with no explanation.

I think it's the same as asking if someone feels like a human. Isn't it just as plausible that you feel like a tree?

[Jansen]

"I'd rather this than work under an employer"

Can you imagine someone with no money, no life, no prospects whatsoever saying this irl. Just in their twenties and decided this is as good as it gets already. Goddamn at least try first.

[Jansen]

 Oh you!



You're right it is non-negotiable because if they want to win they're just going to pretend you don't exist

[nachobro]

"in their twenties"  these mfs almost 40

[Propagandhim]

Except you can't do that because your sex is not an allowed referent.

I still reject the idea that you can infer you feel like a male. Saying you don't have dysphoria simply begs the question. Handiness, emotions, pain, all have common referents. The feel of the other sex does not, you can't know it doesn't feel exactly the same, you're supposing there's a difference in feeling absent any evidence that there is. Nobody's ever experienced the other sex, billions have experienced the various emotions.

This comes back to the assertion being made in which in order to demonstrate you feel your sex or gender properly that you're going to compare and contrast stereotypes you hold about the genders and these are personal. There is an element to this in emotions as they differ across cultures but we've managed to get past that with simply language which I think can be taken as a display of the common referents. Whereas the most I've seen about being a man is wanting to penetrate things, as proven by turning literally anything that exists into a supposed metaphor for penetration. I don't find this very satisfactory as a hypothesis. And referring to the stereotypes is just reifying those gender roles that are supposedly being smashed by claiming if you can't open pickle jars and want to be penetrated that you're a woman.

As for any kind of self-referent, I approach this additionally from the mental health angle: they're rather obviously delusional. We don't trust that a schizophrenic is correct about what they experience, we don't trust anorexics or other eating disorders, we don't trust yts or yt adjacents claiming they know what it's like to be a different race, etc. But if someone claims a different sex we're supposed to pretend they're accurately accessing this. Why? On what grounds? It's the only thing where we reverse everything with no explanation.

I think it's the same as asking if someone feels like a human. Isn't it just as plausible that you feel like a tree?

Isn't pain just referent to an internal contrast though?  How is that not the same as gender dysphoria?  Nobody "feels" their pain by using an external yardstick.  They know something is painful by the sense of contrast that never leaves the subjective conscious experience.  Wouldn't a trans person just claim they're in the "pain" state when their gender isn't being affirmed and in the "painless" state when it is?  Or would you just say that presupposes the conclusion because it is part of the delusion and they can't be trusted to self-report that kind of pain objectively?  That the pain comes after the delusion, not before it.

[Kyon1988]

 Oh you!

Melody is so goddamned stupid, it's unbelievable. Whats the first thing you do when you're low on money? Check your subscriptions and cancel them unless they're really, really important. 

This is the second or third time this has happened making it even more stupid

[Jansen]

"in their twenties"  these mfs almost 40

Oh I thought wren was younger 🤷




Anywho the mean things y'all said to them via anonymous messages yesterday ruined their day today... Somehow.

[nachobro]

35 

i could see the confusion cause they act like highschoolers and appear mentally stuck there. when the fat dog is the most normal one there....wow

[nachobro]

Melody is so goddamned stupid, it's unbelievable. Whats the first thing you do when you're low on money? Check your subscriptions and cancel them unless they're really, really important. 

This is the second or third time this has happened making it even more stupid

oh thats cause its a lie  they almost certainly bought a video game and spent all their ebegging money

[Propagandhim]

 Oh you!

Melody is so goddamned stupid, it's unbelievable. Whats the first thing you do when you're low on money? Check your subscriptions and cancel them unless they're really, really important. 

This is the second or third time this has happened making it even more stupid

The Doordash DashPass is a great deal it almost pays for itself, so I can't give that up.  Do you want me to starve?    Okay Handsmaid Tale is only on Hulu, so I'm gonna need that.  Netflix is where all the snyder cuts come out on so you know ya girl needs as many snyder cuts as she can get.  If I unsub from my favorite streamers then they won't talk to me anymore and I'll have 0 friends, so I need that.  Oh, and all those Twitch emotes I get work with Discord Nitro, I need that.  I need Amazon Prime because we live in a capitalist hellscape that I have no choice but to participate in lest I come to the realization that I have volitional free will and all my own decisions have lead me to this point, plus Amazon Video has all the WWE retrospective docs.  Eddie Guerrero's story was the saddest shit I've ever seen - a true man that spoke out for trans rights in his Hell in the Cell 2003 match.  Xbox Live because FUCK Microsoft for firing the Hi-Fi Rush devs and putting it on Xbox Live, where I memorialize those poor physics programmers having to get a job elsewhere in this capitalist hellscape and are probably doing unbearable crunchtime.  I wrote a tweet about their plight while I was begging people for $4.00 for Pizza Hut, and had to subscribe to Twitter Premium (then hide my checkmark)  so other people would see my post first.

[Propagandhim]

"in their twenties"  these mfs almost 40

Oh I thought wren was younger 🤷




Anywho the mean things y'all said to them via anonymous messages yesterday ruined their day today... Somehow.

I just posted about this yesterday .  Not that I know what one of you chuckleheads wrote to this person, it was probably pretty harsh, but when faced with criticism about their obviously completely aberrant behavior, they just block, isolate, shut down all self-examination and get pissed off and run.