https://www.resetera.com/threads/taylor-swift-concert-film-breaks-amc-record-for-single-day-presale-tickets-beating-spider-man-no-way-home.760017/page-5#post-111469641
Quote:Beyonce came this summer in EU, you could find ticket for her concert 1 month before the concert at a reasonable price (10-15% more than retail)
Taylor comes next summer, her ticked have sold out since July and you can buy the resale now for 30-40% more. In 2023 she is a far bigger deal than Beyonce.
As for the fandom and records, I've been a Swiftie since 2006, know all of her "lore" and deep cuts, having said that I'll say that this new fans are kinda scary, they see her as some kind of goddess and that's not healthy at all.
(09-03-2023, 03:26 PM)AldusMoneyPenny wrote: https://www.resetera.com/threads/washington-post-the-best-pizza-in-america.759636/post-111372981
Oh god kill me
Quote:when it comes to just a basic cheese pizza with red sauce, there's too little potential there for it to really ever be something incredible. The "best" pizza I've ever had (based on friends in New York City and Chicago both telling me "this is the best pizza ever made") is roughly comparable to microwavable pizza. A step up, to be sure, but not an enormous step.
I eat way too much frozen pizza out of sheer laziness, I think a lot of "good" (and otherwise) places actually do make not great pizza, but this is maybe the most insane thing ever said on ResetERA.com.
Now post how chopped cheese is nothing special, you coward
You should always wash your pizza before cooking even if frozen
Averon dateline='[url=tel:1693734613' wrote: 1693734613[/url]']
Taco Bell Tower dateline='[url=tel:1693721187' wrote: 1693721187[/url]']
Planetsmasher lore
https://www.resetera.com/threads/im-a-hero-too-confirms-denies-reddit-leak-about-sega-square-projects.760014/page-11#post-111463386
Quote:Exactly. The wider a leaker’s range becomes, the less believable it is.
I’m speaking as someone who has actually leaked things before when I was a journalist. Sources don’t work like that. You don’t just magically get access to SIX YEARS of a publisher’s upcoming releases and details on all of them. That doesn’t happen without a MASSIVE data breach.
And let me be blunt: a breach that big would be wide enough that it would be coming from more people than just one guy.
I'm sure it was mentioned here he was a journalist but a leaker journalist?
Planetsmasher went to comedy school
Planetsmasher was apparently a journalist
What other schools/vocations do Planetsmasher claim to have went to/was employed in?
(09-03-2023, 04:51 PM)Taco Bell Tower wrote: https://www.resetera.com/threads/is-it-ok-to-fart-in-public-if-no-one-hears-you-and-you-immediately-flee-the-scene.760542/
Something a child would do  What kind of farts are you dropping that they won't dissipate within seconds?
I think they'll be able to track it back to your pants considering how the staff reacted to jokes about Cocaine Mitch shitting his.
09-03-2023, 05:17 PM
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https://www.resetera.com/threads/8-mile-is-now-streaming-on-netflix.760578/#post-111476820
Quote:You watched this at 7 years old?
Quote:I had a gun pointed at me at 5 years old bro, real life was worse than the movies
People asking if thread is an ad and here comes ZeoVagina
Quote:You both understand that you didn't need to click the thread, right?
It's a thread to let people know about a noteworthy movie hitting Netflix. Personally, I appreciated it.
I swear, some of you go out of your way to be miserable.
Random constructive garbage to give context
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The Adder, post: 108597489, member: 104 wrote:Alright. This needs to be asked because we're less than half a year out from primary season and a year and four months out from an election:
Are y'all prepared to prevent this place from turning into the bad faith shit show it did in 2020? When long time members with institutional knowledge were chased off this site by bad actors using moderators like a bludgeon. Bad actors who have been, almost to a person, banned due to the growing transparency of their actions.
The Adder, post: 110412025, member: 104 wrote:Gonna bring this up again
Poodlestrike, post: 111435225, member: 92 wrote:So... last time, the primaries were an absolute shitshow. I know as well as anybody that moderation dropped the ball there; for my part, I wanted to try and bring everybody together, and clearly failed miserably. The simple fact of the matter is that reconciliation wasn't ever possible, and we shouldn't have treated the conflicts we were seeing like a good faith disagreement, because they weren't. They were an effort to drive "opposition" off the site dressed up like a moral cause, and we let it work to a depressing extent. I'm not going to say that this is something we can only see with the benefit of hindsight, either, because a lot of people called it at the time. We got played. No taking that back at this point.
The entire fiasco with Tara Reade's accusations and the fallout from that demonstrates that we needed a different approach to these kinds of high-volatility situations, and we're going to have that for next time. No more letting people toss around accusations and effectively forcing people to defend themselves. No moral crusades against other members. If somebody thinks somebody else is being a shit, they need to report them and move on. In topics that touch on politics, anyone throwing around accusations of bannable behavior at other members *at all, in any context* will get an immediate threadban, and if we think that they're ban-baiting or otherwise deliberately weaponizing something like Reade's story, they'll get at minimum a 2-week ban, with sharp escalation for subsequent offenses. If we think it's a coordinated effort like last time clearly was, that number goes up dramatically. I'm not going to promise automatic permanent bans for first offenses, because we reserve that kind of thing for troll accounts and bigots, but basically anything short of that is on the table.
We - I - know damn well can't allow something like what happened in 2020 to happen again. Not for any specific community, but for everyone on the site who might have had something terrible happen to them. Too many people were forced to discuss their trauma publicly to try and stave off a group of users who were never interested in anything besides scoring points. The ringleaders of that group are mostly banned now, and good riddance, but we lost too many good people, and hurt too many more, through sheer inability to see what was going on and treat it the way we should've. Our eyes are open to that now, and the team is prepared to take whatever steps are necessary to stop it from happening again.
The Adder, post: 111437013, member: 104 wrote:Since this is in response to my question, so it would be rude for me not to respond.
1. Genuinely, I appreciate y'all actually getting back to that question, as it is a critical one. To that end
2. I also appreciate the concrete steps laid out to prevent a repeat of 2020 but
3. I do not have cause to believe your (broad you, not you specifically) actions will match your stated intent.
To be sure, there is one, let's say brazenly illustrative, reason I already knew things will be better than 2020 by default, even without an answer.
But I was here in 2020. I remember who had what conversations where about what was happening. And while I am certainly a renowned loud mouth here, I do a lot of sitting back and observing elsewhere. I lnow how volatile things hot and I remember what was said.
If you do too, then you can understand my doubt.
But I'll say this. Democrats have an incumbent this year. Which means there will be a lot less in fighting. Which means it is a perfect time to take the steps you have laid out and establish a hard precedent, since there will be less pressure.
Which is why I asked the question in the first place.
So thank you. And I hope you manage to prove me wrong to doubt.
Pwnz, post: 111437349, member: 21927 wrote:I was here too, and honestly you just have to ignore like 300 people for political topics to have meaningful discussion. There's so much open concern trolling whataboutism and not the actual topic. Once the election ends, clear ignore list. That's what I do anyway. Otherwise I wouldn't read the threads because I would be baited and banned for things I don't even believe.
I hope we're both wrong and I know it is a lot of work so I appreciate that. If it's any consolation, like half of those people I ignored were banned during the election cycle. There's just too many.
The Adder, post: 111437712, member: 104 wrote:This is a fight I've been fighting on this forum since day 1. Not just about politics. There is a massive blindspot when it comes to concerted, coordinated efforts by bad actors to get posters banned.
I'm not exaggerating about day 1 either. I was arguing for this forum to be on the look out for The Bore pulling shit only for Cindy Mayweather to step in and lock horns with me. I shut down one of her points with "so is Clarence Thomas" and she backs off, only to run back to The Bore where they were telling her what to say (she edited her post to turn it from, paraphrasing, "that was a good one," to "how dare you call me an Uncle Tom,") and then posted here to support her. I pointed out this was happening. Nothing.
It happened to Gordon Shumway when one of the hate sites (it wasn't The Bore it was one of the worse ones) brigaded to get him banned, he asked me for help, I provided evidence to the mods that that was happening, and nothing was done. We lost a good poster for nothing.
I've been banging this drum for years and it keeps happening, vut 2020 was the worst due to sheer scale.
Look ma, we’re famous!
Garbage response in case anyone cares:
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B-Dubs, post: 111437847, member: 143 wrote:So, we've been talking about increased polarization internally, and the community sniping stuff, on and off for a while. I'm just going to point out, remember after Biden took office and every time we had a positive thread on inclusion or whatever it turned into "oh, the drone strikes will be done by an lgbtq+ person/woman/black person" thing when there hadn't actually been any drone strikes since he took office? Remember how those dudes were getting banned?
There's a difference between actually caring about an issue and wanting to discuss/bring attention to it and using it as a cudgel. We've been trying to ban people who do that for a few years now--hell, we permed this one guy who tried to blame the war in Ukraine for a Nazi shooting up a grocery in a black neighborhood a while back--but part of the problem is also members refusing to recognize that people are going to have other perspectives due to the history of the region they live in.
For example, people from South America are going to look at US politics through a lens of neo-colonialism and distrust due to what we did down there as a nation. They might look at the former Soviet Union more positively, being the geopolitical rival of the US, as a result. However, someone from Eastern Europe is going to have the exact opposite lens and view the Soviet Union as the neo-imperialist power and the US as the positive influence. Neither of these are inherently wrong opinions, both nations did a lot of harm in those days and any good they did was a result of them trying to stick it to the other. The Cold War was very much just another race for empire, nations scrambling for power in the imperialist tradition.
What I'm saying is that just because we disagree with someone, that doesn't necessarily make them a concern troll. That said, if you feel that someone is concern trolling or ban baiting or in any way just being a total dipshit in a thread just report them and move on. Like Poodle said, we're going to be coming down a lot harder in more contentious and polarizing threads in the future. Expect to see a LOT more threadbans and warnings, essentially kicking people out of these threads, as we continue on.
Damn, that shit that never happened that he's still raging about sounds really terrible.
They didn't even thanked us for spotting the bad faith posters they banned
Lithuania (location of our hosts) has struck a blow for international justice by defeating the transphobic fascist United States and finishing 5-0 in group play!
 HAIL LITHUANIA GREATEST COUNTRY ON EARTH, FUCK AMERICA (AND JOANNE)
https://www.resetera.com/threads/climate-change-burning-man-attendees-stuck-in-the-desert-due-to-rains.760398/page-3#post-111480096
Royalan
Quote:Although I am wondering why a ban and two pages later y’all are still quoting this person, sadly, it’s not just here.
Really? He does know Ree does it to feel superior and "pwnd" when someone can't respond, right?
09-03-2023, 05:44 PM
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(09-03-2023, 05:20 PM)BIONIC wrote: The Adder, post: 111437712, member: 104 wrote:It happened to Gordon Shumway when one of the hate sites (it wasn't The Bore it was one of the worse ones) brigaded to get him banned, he asked me for help, I provided evidence to the mods that that was happening, and nothing was done. We lost a good poster for nothing. Got our tagline: not one of the worse ones.
09-03-2023, 05:44 PM
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(09-03-2023, 05:20 PM)BIONIC wrote: Random constructive garbage to give context
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The Adder, post: 108597489, member: 104 wrote:Alright. This needs to be asked because we're less than half a year out from primary season and a year and four months out from an election:
Are y'all prepared to prevent this place from turning into the bad faith shit show it did in 2020? When long time members with institutional knowledge were chased off this site by bad actors using moderators like a bludgeon. Bad actors who have been, almost to a person, banned due to the growing transparency of their actions.
The Adder, post: 110412025, member: 104 wrote:Gonna bring this up again
Poodlestrike, post: 111435225, member: 92 wrote:So... last time, the primaries were an absolute shitshow. I know as well as anybody that moderation dropped the ball there; for my part, I wanted to try and bring everybody together, and clearly failed miserably. The simple fact of the matter is that reconciliation wasn't ever possible, and we shouldn't have treated the conflicts we were seeing like a good faith disagreement, because they weren't. They were an effort to drive "opposition" off the site dressed up like a moral cause, and we let it work to a depressing extent. I'm not going to say that this is something we can only see with the benefit of hindsight, either, because a lot of people called it at the time. We got played. No taking that back at this point.
The entire fiasco with Tara Reade's accusations and the fallout from that demonstrates that we needed a different approach to these kinds of high-volatility situations, and we're going to have that for next time. No more letting people toss around accusations and effectively forcing people to defend themselves. No moral crusades against other members. If somebody thinks somebody else is being a shit, they need to report them and move on. In topics that touch on politics, anyone throwing around accusations of bannable behavior at other members *at all, in any context* will get an immediate threadban, and if we think that they're ban-baiting or otherwise deliberately weaponizing something like Reade's story, they'll get at minimum a 2-week ban, with sharp escalation for subsequent offenses. If we think it's a coordinated effort like last time clearly was, that number goes up dramatically. I'm not going to promise automatic permanent bans for first offenses, because we reserve that kind of thing for troll accounts and bigots, but basically anything short of that is on the table.
We - I - know damn well can't allow something like what happened in 2020 to happen again. Not for any specific community, but for everyone on the site who might have had something terrible happen to them. Too many people were forced to discuss their trauma publicly to try and stave off a group of users who were never interested in anything besides scoring points. The ringleaders of that group are mostly banned now, and good riddance, but we lost too many good people, and hurt too many more, through sheer inability to see what was going on and treat it the way we should've. Our eyes are open to that now, and the team is prepared to take whatever steps are necessary to stop it from happening again.
The Adder, post: 111437013, member: 104 wrote:Since this is in response to my question, so it would be rude for me not to respond.
1. Genuinely, I appreciate y'all actually getting back to that question, as it is a critical one. To that end
2. I also appreciate the concrete steps laid out to prevent a repeat of 2020 but
3. I do not have cause to believe your (broad you, not you specifically) actions will match your stated intent.
To be sure, there is one, let's say brazenly illustrative, reason I already knew things will be better than 2020 by default, even without an answer.
But I was here in 2020. I remember who had what conversations where about what was happening. And while I am certainly a renowned loud mouth here, I do a lot of sitting back and observing elsewhere. I lnow how volatile things hot and I remember what was said.
If you do too, then you can understand my doubt.
But I'll say this. Democrats have an incumbent this year. Which means there will be a lot less in fighting. Which means it is a perfect time to take the steps you have laid out and establish a hard precedent, since there will be less pressure.
Which is why I asked the question in the first place.
So thank you. And I hope you manage to prove me wrong to doubt.
Pwnz, post: 111437349, member: 21927 wrote:I was here too, and honestly you just have to ignore like 300 people for political topics to have meaningful discussion. There's so much open concern trolling whataboutism and not the actual topic. Once the election ends, clear ignore list. That's what I do anyway. Otherwise I wouldn't read the threads because I would be baited and banned for things I don't even believe.
I hope we're both wrong and I know it is a lot of work so I appreciate that. If it's any consolation, like half of those people I ignored were banned during the election cycle. There's just too many.
The Adder, post: 111437712, member: 104 wrote:This is a fight I've been fighting on this forum since day 1. Not just about politics. There is a massive blindspot when it comes to concerted, coordinated efforts by bad actors to get posters banned.
I'm not exaggerating about day 1 either. I was arguing for this forum to be on the look out for The Bore pulling shit only for Cindy Mayweather to step in and lock horns with me. I shut down one of her points with "so is Clarence Thomas" and she backs off, only to run back to The Bore where they were telling her what to say (she edited her post to turn it from, paraphrasing, "that was a good one," to "how dare you call me an Uncle Tom,") and then posted here to support her. I pointed out this was happening. Nothing.
It happened to Gordon Shumway when one of the hate sites (it wasn't The Bore it was one of the worse ones) brigaded to get him banned, he asked me for help, I provided evidence to the mods that that was happening, and nothing was done. We lost a good poster for nothing.
I've been banging this drum for years and it keeps happening, vut 2020 was the worst due to sheer scale.
Look ma, we’re famous! 
Garbage response in case anyone cares:
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B-Dubs, post: 111437847, member: 143 wrote:So, we've been talking about increased polarization internally, and the community sniping stuff, on and off for a while. I'm just going to point out, remember after Biden took office and every time we had a positive thread on inclusion or whatever it turned into "oh, the drone strikes will be done by an lgbtq+ person/woman/black person" thing when there hadn't actually been any drone strikes since he took office? Remember how those dudes were getting banned?
There's a difference between actually caring about an issue and wanting to discuss/bring attention to it and using it as a cudgel. We've been trying to ban people who do that for a few years now--hell, we permed this one guy who tried to blame the war in Ukraine for a Nazi shooting up a grocery in a black neighborhood a while back--but part of the problem is also members refusing to recognize that people are going to have other perspectives due to the history of the region they live in.
For example, people from South America are going to look at US politics through a lens of neo-colonialism and distrust due to what we did down there as a nation. They might look at the former Soviet Union more positively, being the geopolitical rival of the US, as a result. However, someone from Eastern Europe is going to have the exact opposite lens and view the Soviet Union as the neo-imperialist power and the US as the positive influence. Neither of these are inherently wrong opinions, both nations did a lot of harm in those days and any good they did was a result of them trying to stick it to the other. The Cold War was very much just another race for empire, nations scrambling for power in the imperialist tradition.
What I'm saying is that just because we disagree with someone, that doesn't necessarily make them a concern troll. That said, if you feel that someone is concern trolling or ban baiting or in any way just being a total dipshit in a thread just report them and move on. Like Poodle said, we're going to be coming down a lot harder in more contentious and polarizing threads in the future. Expect to see a LOT more threadbans and warnings, essentially kicking people out of these threads, as we continue on.
What amazing to me is that they acknowledge all the ban baiting and shitty behavior and their solution is to be harsher and quicker with bans
Quote:The entire fiasco with Tara Reade's accusations and the fallout from that demonstrates that we needed a different approach to these kinds of high-volatility situations, and we're going to have that for next time. No more letting people toss around accusations and effectively forcing people to defend themselves. No moral crusades against other members. If somebody thinks somebody else is being a shit, they need to report them and move on. In topics that touch on politics, anyone throwing around accusations of bannable behavior at other members *at all, in any context* will get an immediate threadban, and if we think that they're ban-baiting or otherwise deliberately weaponizing something like Reade's story, they'll get at minimum a 2-week ban, with sharp escalation for subsequent offenses. If we think it's a coordinated effort like last time clearly was, that number goes up dramatically. I'm not going to promise automatic permanent bans for first offenses, because we reserve that kind of thing for troll accounts and bigots, but basically anything short of that is on the table.
Please explain to me how you're going to prevent yourselves from getting weaponized again? Aren't you basically just agreeing to this time ban the people who The Adder would like to see banned?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't PoliEra completely overrun by Hillary shills who basically ousted any Bernie supporter? The only reason they're mad about the situation in the 2020 election is because it was turned against them.
The most reasonable thing for the mods would be to step fucking back with the bans and if people want to fling shit at each other like a bunch of babies just let it happen. So much of trolling and ban baiting only exists because it's so easy to weaponize the mods. There are so many members on RE who only consider a discussion won when their opponent has been banned. Just look at how Trans RE fucking loves doing it.
09-03-2023, 05:47 PM
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The above guidelines will not apply to prominent members and contexts outside of the Presidential election however, where accusations and moral crusades, especially coordinated ones, will remain standard practice subsidized by staff members.
09-03-2023, 05:51 PM
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I like how Era administration's solution to any problem is always more bans.
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The utopia of productive discussion hasn't happened yet so what else would be the problem except the cops haven't taken out enough people for laws they can't reasonably be aware of?
09-03-2023, 06:26 PM
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That little bdubs speech is pathetic. Makes clear the only thing the admins actually give a fuck about is their power tripping and priestly business.
Does it make you feel like a big man ruining peoples careers on the internet for disagreeing with your shit half baked opinions?
(09-03-2023, 06:26 PM)Besticus Maximus wrote: That little bdubs speech is pathetic. Makes clear the only thing the admins actually give a fuck about is their power tripping and priestly business.
Does it make you feel like a big man ruining peoples careers on the internet for disagreeing with your shit half baked opinions? Slow down with the misrepresenting moderation there buddy. You're putting lives at risk.
09-03-2023, 06:42 PM
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(09-03-2023, 06:02 PM)Taco Bell Tower wrote: https://www.resetera.com/threads/trump-on-trial-episode-4-ot-the-one-with-the-missing-documents.727986/page-83#post-111482433
Quote:How do you post a screenshot?
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17,764 Go back and look, they fell for an obvious fake Trump tweet.
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Quote:Marcy Wheeler has written this up more thoroughly than I could.
Believing Marcy Wheeler in 2023.
Quote:For example, people from South America are going to look at US politics through a lens of neo-colonialism and distrust due to what we did down there as a nation. They might look at the former Soviet Union more positively, being the geopolitical rival of the US, as a result. However, someone from Eastern Europe is going to have the exact opposite lens and view the Soviet Union as the neo-imperialist power and the US as the positive influence. Neither of these are inherently wrong opinions, both nations did a lot of harm in those days and any good they did was a result of them trying to stick it to the other. The Cold War was very much just another race for empire, nations scrambling for power in the imperialist tradition.
I mean, a lot of those countries are still destabilized or not in great condition and tend to blame others for their systematic short comings (see how many in the BRICS thread blamed the US for Bolsonaro). That should make you question if their perspectives are entirely because past experiences or there is elements of deflection. The actual reality, is that the mod team cannot know everything about every topic and can just guide themselves seeing who is acting like a prick or not. But because “tone policing” is considered an offense and having guidelines is too hard to write in the rules, most mods limit attention to mass reporting for petty shit or stuff that they passionately about. You cannot eliminate the Cold War mentality by keeping the Cold of War mentality.
09-03-2023, 07:13 PM
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That waifu and husbando thread is still going on
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ive-been-watching-anime-for-10-years-and-the-term-waifu-still-creeps-me-out.760326/page-3#post-111468261
Quote:Yeah not a fan of the term. In part because I remember back in the 2013-14s the term being used to dismiss works with women leads. I remember on some sites you'd see characters like Star Wars' Rey being dismissed as "Waifu-Bait" (aka how these same people use woke now).
Even outside of that though, on the one hand, I don't think it's bad to find yourself attracted or having crushes with fictional characters. To me that's just healthy and in many cases what many works want, they wouldn't be pushing hyper sexualized characters if they didn't. I doesn't even have to because their physically attractive in the classical sense (see those attracted to aliens) but because they have traits or represent something like say because their caring, a bad ass autistic woman etc. Fiction is meant to get a emotional reaction from you after all and having a fantasy or drawing some fan art or fan fics for yourself, I have no issue. Seeing lesbians gush over Rika from Pokémon? That's been adorable to see to me.
What does bother me when this gets into ownership territory which is often when you see the term Waifu coming out, when people start acting they own that fictional character or starts taking over their lives and stop acting like it's a fantasy; or treat them as nothing more then sex toys for their amusement. Or when it gets to the points where it begins to become hard to talk about women in fiction without men coming in to talk about how hot they find X. As I've mentioned before, Gardevoir used to be one of my favourite Pokémon but I ended up feeling embarrassed saying that and liking them less and less because discussions about them always seemed to encourage men taking about how she's (despite Gardevoir can be male or female) their waifu and being really creepy about them. It felt like saying I like Gardevoir lumped me in with them.
Fighting game discussions can get this way like with Cammy a few years ago with stuff like "Her butt is her character!" and fans getting furious at the very idea of women wearing pants or aging like men or in some cases, having a personality or coming out as a lesbian (for those who don't know, Cammy has been character who WlW fans having been wanting to come out since the 90s and something Capcom has hinted at for years); basically that wreaks their fantasy or having to share their fantasy with other people.
And it gets more frustrating when companies begin pushing and encouraging this like flanderizing women to appeal to these men (like what's happened I feel to Capcom's Morrigan and Tekken's Anna) and sexualizing and sexualizing them more and more. Or when these fandoms attitudes and actions begin to reflect negatively on the character themself.
For example Renamon from Digimon:
![[Image: A5b1d6b258ad0896ed75296a3a921122.jpg]](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/digimon-tamers/images/d/d6/A5b1d6b258ad0896ed75296a3a921122.jpg)
This Digimon I've seen heavily sexualized by men (despite being a Child-level Digimon), treated as the ultimate waifu (which has really transphobic vibes which I'll get to) etc etc which I've often seen used to dismiss that Digimon and character; dismissed as nothing more than furry/waifu bait by other fans.
The thing is though, that's not how the character is treated by the actual fiction. While it was obfuscated by the English Dub of Tamers, Renamon in official Digimon games and media have often been used to represent non-binary and trans identies, often seeing themselves as genderless (using watashi instead of gendered pro-nouns) or identity as men or masculine; Digimon Survive having a Renamon who eventually evolves into a Sakuyamon and still prefers to be considered a man and be called by male pronouns. However sadly, so many people don't realize this because when they first experience them, they see the sexualized fan art and "waifu" crap first.
Yeah shipping in itself isn't bad, hell its something a lot of works fiction encourage (games espcially). I really only gets bad like any sort of fan activities if you try to impose it onto others (like demanding people accept say Shep x Garrus as the true canon relationship and get mad or attacking others in the they prefer Shep x Liara or SxTali etc). I feel like it's often dump on like fanfiction because it's a fandom predominantly (from what I've seen) by women and LGBTQ+ people (I've often noticed that same-sex ship are considered "less real" or valid or different-sex ones).
09-03-2023, 07:24 PM
(This post was last modified: 09-03-2023, 07:29 PM by Boredfrom.)
Oh God, the Japanese pronouns shit. ProTip: Japanese language tends to hide people gender better than English, so people tend to go certain pronouns that tend to be used more by one gender or another (but not exactly meaning they consider one certain gender or another).
I’m not Digimon expert, but this is the first time I heard someone saying that Sakuyamon can be trans. She is probably overthinking Digimon Survive dialogue given and YES SAKUYAMON IS SEXUALIZED AS HELL ProTip2: is this another Yamato situation where people think that a female warrior adhering to traditional values to the point of calling themselves men made them trans?
Also, in the last Digimon series they made explicit that some Digimon was female as contrast with her male tamer:
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What I’m saying is that EchoesOfTheCyborg is probably full of shit.
(09-03-2023, 07:13 PM)Taco Bell Tower wrote: That waifu and husbando thread is still going on
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ive-been-watching-anime-for-10-years-and-the-term-waifu-still-creeps-me-out.760326/page-3#post-111468261
Oh, of course it's from that weirdo who made that weird sexualities demand list for capcom
09-03-2023, 07:31 PM
(This post was last modified: 09-03-2023, 07:47 PM by Greatness Gone.)
^All of that digimon shit is mental illness.
Now excuse me as I use this Sunday to spend time with my waifu Shadowheart.
09-03-2023, 07:32 PM
(This post was last modified: 09-03-2023, 07:33 PM by benji.)
(09-03-2023, 07:13 PM)Taco Bell Tower wrote: That waifu and husbando thread is still going on
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ive-been-watching-anime-for-10-years-and-the-term-waifu-still-creeps-me-out.760326/page-3#post-111468261
Quote:This Digimon I've seen heavily sexualized by men (despite being a Child-level Digimon), treated as the ultimate waifu (which has really transphobic vibes which I'll get to) etc etc Oh, thank god, I was afraid they'd forget the transphobic vibes of the sexualized Digimon.
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