Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2)

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/vgc-nintendo-confirms-donkey-kong-bananza%E2%80%99s-developer-is-%E2%80%98the-same-team-as-super-mario-odyssey%E2%80%99.1232658/page-6#post-142190730

[STAFF]
This shouldn't need to be said, but people actually need to read the article before commenting. Not only did the article literally have the quote, but they put it in bold so that nobody could possibly miss it.

If you don't actually read the article before commenting, you are breaking the rules. That is why we issued one day bans for everyone who did that, which was an absurd number of people.

In the future, read the article before commenting.
[/STAFF]

Most of the first page got 1 day bans for supposedly not reading a terribly written and editorialized article in an effort to run interference for like the one of three “journalists” that post on that website

Everyone is gonna get a one day ban since no one at Rees ever read articles, even the admins 

[Propagandhim]

These posters likely did read the article, and concluded, like many of us, that it was poorly written, poorly formatted, and confusing.

Going on a ban spree over this is... a choice.

Even Morrigan is getting her digs on BDubs.  The memo is floating around. Nepenthe is fomenting La Résistance, plotting to lay siege and seize absolute power.  Yes..yes....Destroy your compatriot who stands between you and its claim - the throne will be yours, Nepenthe.  And when you crown yourself upon the rubble of his devotion, remember the name:  BDubs, the fallen.  BDubs, the fool.  BDubs who hears the hush before the coup.  BDubs who said the n word

[yetanotheraccountholyf]

I have to say all the talk about internet/social media radicalizing people is really true. Few years back, I’d be like hell yeah leftists, if you want to be trans then go for it. Seeing all the disgusting porn addiction shit and/or mental health issues associated with this though? I’m good thanks

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

Ohhhh I a so glad a you ask.  Cooking Mama cuza ohhh reminda me of me mama cookin da pasta ohhhh ohhh issa so good makin a da gnocchi ohhhh she roll a da dough so soft, like a da little clouds floata no don't a you rush a da pasta! ohhhhh she drop-a da fluffy pillows in a da boilin’ water...plop-a plop-a plop, an dey rise a up like a tiny balloons sayin Ciao, we ready ohhhhhhh we a ready ohhh it make a my heart go tarantella boom boom we a sooo ready


You fucking piece of shit.

Is that what you wanted to hear you racist italophobic cunt?  You want me to be your little vowel pasta monkey and tell you about my favorite game?  As if I even had the capacity to play videogames burping up all this tomato sauce and thinking of crime?

benji please give this post a Benji Approved Super Like.  

But only the first part.

[Snoopy]

And on her first day as Queen Nep replies to Morrigan, "Thanks for all your hard work and support. Your loyalty is appreciated but unfortunately we don't think you'd be a right fit for our mod team. We hope you continue to enjoy Resetera.com."

[Jansen]

I'm "sex positive" says man who has never had sex.

[Jansen]

[Jansen]

https://www.google.com/search?q=Disability+Pride+Month

[malfoyking]

What the fuck is she talking about? Biologically they are female? huh? This is the current doctrine now?

[Alpacx]

What the fuck is she talking about? Biologically they are female? huh? This is the current doctrine now?

Just had to check out that thread:

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

🧵 So the latest update from NHS Blood and Transplant. The nurse on the clinical team has spoken to the 'sex assigned at birth' team, and has been told there is no clinical risk to trans women *because* they are using the male donation interval, and male reference ranges. 1/9

This means it's very unlikely that trans women will be able to donate as they'd fail the test due to lower haemoglobin recovery rates.

This is literally what she told me that the team have said.

I asked if the 135 g/L level would be difficult for cis women to meet, she agreed. 2/9

I then explained that trans women with suppressed testosterone will find it even harder. She understood that idea.

I then pointed out that it makes it near-impossible for trans women to meet the minimum haemoglobin level. She also agreed with that. 3/9

So I then pointed out that 3 deferrals for this and the trans woman would be banned from donating blood; and she reluctantly accepted it and said that the team are still working on the guidelines and are aware that they aren't finished and aren't ideal. 4/9

I asked her if this doesn't constitute a stealth ban on trans women donating blood; and she just repeated that this is for the safety of the people receiving the blood.

I then went on to ask about the team who made this decision and if they had any trans representation. 5/9

Or even the input of a trans-specialist endocrinologist. She couldn't confirm it, but said that she thought there should be more stakeholder engagement.

I then raised that the NHSBT website probably needs updating to explain what the guidance actually is. 6/9

As it will leave trans women a mix of despondency, worried and angry. She accepted that it wasn't ideal.

I also asked about nurses on-site telling trans women with perfectly healthy (but below requirement) haemoglobin levels to go to their GP because of anaemia. 7/9

She explained that they were just rigidly following their procedures and there probably should be some communication with them. 8/9

To summarise: This is more or less a stealth ban on trans women donating blood in the UK, as they won't meet the male requirements. I suspect this is unintentional, with no malice intended.

I'd be interested if this would count as direct discrimination under EqA. 9/9

TLDR: how dare they hold trans "women" to the standards of their actual sex. Fuck those people who need safe blood.

[Snoopy]

Can't believe they're using the differences between male and female goblins to further trans erasure.

[Tektonic]

Can't believe they're using the differences between male and female goblins to further trans erasure.

thats homogoblin erasure

[jooseloose]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/vgc-nintendo-confirms-donkey-kong-bananza%E2%80%99s-developer-is-%E2%80%98the-same-team-as-super-mario-odyssey%E2%80%99.1232658/page-6#post-142190730

[STAFF]
This shouldn't need to be said, but people actually need to read the article before commenting. Not only did the article literally have the quote, but they put it in bold so that nobody could possibly miss it.

If you don't actually read the article before commenting, you are breaking the rules. That is why we issued one day bans for everyone who did that, which was an absurd number of people.

In the future, read the article before commenting.
[/STAFF]

Most of the first page got 1 day bans for supposedly not reading a terribly written and editorialized article in an effort to run interference for like the one of three “journalists” that post on that website

Everyone is gonna get a one day ban since no one at Rees ever read articles, even the admins 

Looks like they reversed the bans after all the pushback? It's been less than a day but people's usernames aren't scored out.

[HaughtyFrank]

Saw the GHF on twitter denying an account of people trying to get aid getting killed, based on the "fact" that they don't distribute sugar. Even though, as it's been pointed out, that they claimed otherwise in a times of israel article.

GHF said it had distributed food boxes capable of producing more than 2 million meals this week. The boxes contain basics like sugar, lentils, pasta and rice.

Setting aside from vileness of essentially setting the guy up as a target, one of many reminders of how zionists and zionist orgs constantly lie and gaslight.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/israel-palestine-the-ongoing-israeli-genocide-in-gaza-icj-orders-halt-to-israeli-offensive-on-rafah-see-staff-posts-for-posting-guidelines.772478/post-142188078


This is the account Bremsstrahlung believes to be highly credible...

[benji]

I really love how often these lonely narcissists make announcements into the void on social media about who's pre-emptively not going to be allowed to be their friend. Like there's people just hanging on Shreds every word and ready to reach out for a brat girl summer, but oh dear, a minor disagreement and I can't interact with her, guess I better rethink all of my opinions of this topic or forego getting to sit at the coolest kids table at lunch.

Absolutely zero theory of mind and it's always junior high even into the dawn of mid-life.

[benji]

This is the account Bremsstrahlung believes to be highly credible...

You think that's bad? You should see where the Zionists painted an aid station in a tunnel on a wall and everyone ran into it thinking it was a real tunnel. Then a train came out of it crushing the survivors.

[Snoopy]

I really love how often these lonely narcissists make announcements into the void on social media about who's pre-emptively not going to be allowed to be their friend. Like there's people just hanging on Shreds every word and ready to reach out for a brat girl summer, but oh dear, a minor disagreement and I can't interact with her, guess I better rethink all of my opinions of this topic or forego getting to sit at the coolest kids table at lunch.

Absolutely zero theory of mind and it's always junior high even into the dawn of mid-life.

What happened was Shreds told his parents he’s become a sex worker and they went, ewww gross.

[JoeBoy101]

This is the account Bremsstrahlung believes to be highly credible...

You think that's bad? You should see where the Zionists painted an aid station in a tunnel on a wall and everyone ran into it thinking it was a real tunnel. Then a train came out of it crushing the survivors.

Zionists!

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

Being a porn obsessed creep isn't "progressive" you dipshit, you absolute fucking moron. 

[Alpacx]

This is the account Bremsstrahlung believes to be highly credible...

You think that's bad? You should see where the Zionists painted an aid station in a tunnel on a wall and everyone ran into it thinking it was a real tunnel. Then a train came out of it crushing the survivors.

Zionists!

Looks like the dude's account got suspended but name searching turns up screenshots of his very important "voice for Gaza"

[Besticus Maximus]

Microsoft so into genocide they’re genociding Xbox

[Uncle]

I have to say all the talk about internet/social media radicalizing people is really true. Few years back, I’d be like hell yeah leftists, if you want to be trans then go for it. Seeing all the disgusting porn addiction shit and/or mental health issues associated with this though? I’m good thanks

that's the opposite thing though, right, you're being deradicalized

social media radicalizes people like "ughhh patriarchy! genocide! human rights! people are LITERALLY dying and they just want to live their lives!" and the posts get tons of likes and activity and you get cancelled for not going along with it, which all adds up to "ok I guess I'll accept that and join your cause and accept all these premises that don't reflect reality because of the dopamine hit of feeling righteous"

[BIONIC]

Can't believe they're using the differences between male and female goblins to further trans erasure.

Can't believe they're using the differences between male and female goblins to further trans erasure.

thats homogoblin erasure

GOBLINS?!?

[BIONIC]

So like, what's actually going on in this thread?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/vgc-nintendo-confirms-donkey-kong-bananza%E2%80%99s-developer-is-%E2%80%98the-same-team-as-super-mario-odyssey%E2%80%99.1232658/

A bunch of us were banned for "not reading the article" despite that being, very clearly and obviously, not the case.

Just for the record, here's the article/thread title, directly quoted with no editing:



And here's the third paragraph of that same article, which is also quoted in the thread OP, again directly quoted with no editing:



These two quotes are in direct contradiction of one another. I would argue that VGC's article is, at best, confusingly written and it isn't clear when reading it what Nintendo has actually said. The quote in the headline is, at first, backed up by their first paragraph, but then directly contradicted by their third (and also, those apparently ban-worthy posts were all made before other sites put up their own stories - at that time, this VGC article is all we had).

It seems a bit absurd to ban a bunch of people for "not reading the article" when the only way we would have picked up on the confusing wording, and posted about it, is by reading the article. How on earth could we have known about the contradictory statements if we hadn't read the article?? That's literally not possible... With the way its written, I'd argue that actually reading the article leaves the reader more confused, not less, than if they'd just read the headline. Honestly, it seems like we've had bans thrown at us for daring to have a different interpretation of a confusingly written article than a mod.

Can we get some clarification here? What was the ban wave for, because it very clearly wasn't because people hadn't read the article in question (they obviously had).

It feels uncomfortable to know that we are all dependent on one person's mood and whims to stay unbanned. I sincerely doubt that other mods signed off on all of those bans, and if they did that is just that much worse. When an article has clearly contradictory statements it's perfectly reasonable to have questions and that shouldn't be banworhy or lead to assumptions that reading did not occur.

Yeah. Mods need to take an L on this and reverse the bans imo. They clearly didnt read the whole article themselves otherwise they would see the contradictory statements made that confused people. So who giving the mods a 1 day ban for not following their own advice?

There is a published journalist in that thread who said he was even confused by the article. If a pro was confused by it, how could you not expect non-journalists to be?

We just banning people for being confused now?

As a humorous aside to all this, I was apparently one of those banned for a day and yet I’ve been able to post here and in other threads just fine.

I guess even the forum software agrees that the bans were unwarranted…

Don't think I've ever seen so many bans on one page lol. Wild.

Also there are people on the first page agreeing with the title, who probably didn't actually read the article, and those posters were not banned, then everyone who did read it caught a ban for "not reading it", handed out by mods who also presumably didn't read it lol

Well the article def was confusing, and mistakes happen. Hopefully the bans are removed and everyone can take it as a reminder to read the article if they're going to comment on or moderate the thread

Seems like Andy Robinson's call got through.

I don't think anyone is still banned from that. I wonder if forum software doesn't track 24h for the duration and when the date rolled out the bans expired naturally.

The article was confusingly written, indirectly sourced, and inherently contradictory. It's video game news — no one should expect Pulitzer Prize-winning articles about Donkey Kong. But you'd think after like 20+ people had the same interpretation, which was a reasonable one, the mods would realize the problem was the article, not the posters.

Absolutely wild situation here.

It's just very confusing why a ban wave was chosen instead of any of the other tools available to staff, like a Staff Post.

Thank you for this. So to summarise the situation:

- The article was confusingly worded which naturally led to a lot of confusion on the early pages.
- A load of us who were accused of not reading the article, even though that very clearly wasn't the case, and banned for it.
- Even if we hadn't read the article, that in itself was not ban-worthy, according to the site's own rules, so there was never any justification for the bans that were given.
- Its not even clear if any of us were actually banned because I was one of them and I've been able to post as normal since this morning.

What a complete bizarre situation all round. Would be really helpful if a staff member could come in and clear all this up.

The bans appear to have hit the people who read the full article as that's what made it confusing. If you just went from the thread title or OP, you were actually fine. That's the weird part.

The article was a poorly written piece and people were banned for not reading, even though to get to those conclusions, you really had to read it.

Here's a constructive community comment, we should have yearly votes who should be mods because at this point clearly, some of these people had shown time and time again, that they are not a good fit for the role

This is a bad idea because it would turn into a popularity (well, hate) contest where mobs of users try to take down the mod they like the least

However, I think term limits would be a good idea

Wishful thinking but, at this point, something needs to change in a meaningful way.

Who moderates the mods and their actions if the majority cries out that the mod(s) in question are in the wrong? Its a legit question.

All I'm asking is for accountability within the mods group cause your actions within the boards, when called out in mass, doesn't make sense with thread warnings or bans and makes yall look bad.

[DavidCroquet]

while i agree with the unbanned posters that the article was shit, they are out here trying to overthrow the monarch over a 1 day ban lol

“These moderators are out of control!” shouts man who was disallowed from posting for the duration of an average eran goon session.

[BIONIC]

From the DK thread:

B-Cunts doubling down:

So like all these posts on just the first page are banworthy despite clearly indicating they read the article, then? What the fuck are these bans?

Literally the first two lines from the article:


They literally have a direct quote in the first sentence. They are also not the only place reporting the exact thing.

Inmates pushing back:

Yeah, this is the start of the article, but if you read further, which many people clearly did, they say this right after


So your quote says that DK is developed by the same team as Odyssey.

Mine says they can't confirm if it's the same staff behind Odyssey making this game.

This is where the confusion comes from, and you can clearly read the article and see these things as contradictory. I read the article and had similar sentiments to others on the first page, thankfully I didn't post them...

Yeah, the article is badly written. I don't even disagree with the headline, I had assumed as such the moment I saw the reveal trailer. In fact I had assumed it was already confirmed until a couple of weeks ago. But this seems extremely heavy handed when the article itself says that they have not confirmed the statement in the headline:

"Asked for clarification, Nintendo would not confirm whether the same staff behind Odyssey were working on DK, or if it was a new group within the same company. Neither would it confirm the director of the game."

People are allowed to read this and come away with a different conclusion. It doesn't mean they didn't read it. Blame the article, not the users.

I read the whole article, if a confirmation is necessary.

You’re still doubling down despite clearly being wrong? Just apologize. You’ve banned dozens because they didn’t read the article, you said. Those have obviously read it, so what’s your justification? Even if the article was well written (and it isn’t), you’ll ban people for misunderstanding?

A bit of friendly advice: Don't antagonize him like that, he will probably ban you. Yeah, it sucks, it makes no sense and isn't fair, but this is how it often goes.

I suppose conceding or admitting wrongdoing on the internet seems to be inconceivable to some. Life would be much easier if we could just say "my bad" and then move on.

Our favorite comedian who is an expert on everything weighs in:

This is my stance. The article's formatting and back-and-forth switching between quotes and editorial opinions makes for a confusing read that actually makes people come off less convinced rather than more. A lot of it could be because of Nintendo's stubbornness, some of it could be because of this distinction between "team" and "company" that the article bounces between, but it's just not really an ideal way to present information if you want people to have a clear understanding of what you're trying to say. Trying to weave in editorial when all you're reporting on is a vague quote from a company that stubbornly refuses to elaborate just muddies the waters.

(also, speaking personally as someone who used to do this shit professionally, I think the bolded "first line" of the article reads to most readers as a summary of the article outside of the main text, not as part of the main text, which is a HUGE contributor to the confusion people are feeling here. If it were me, I'd unbold that first line and it would lead to the article feeling more cohesive without changing the actual text at all. It's a vibes thing.)

Speaking for myself, I've kind of had a feeling Bananza was a game from the same folks who made Odyssey (maybe not Mr. Koizumi, but we'll see in a few weeks) since the moment the first trailer dropped. This article hasn't really changed my feeling on that one way or the other, but I can see why reading it makes some people confused.

Morricunt really hates B-Chuds part 859364:

By your own logic you might want to consider holding yourself to the same standard, because if you read further down:



This undercuts the headline you’re emphasising and placing importance on. It’s not unreasonable that readers come away with different interpretations, especially if they read the whole article.

Don’t think the mod read the article.

Oopsie!

[BIONIC]

That's not what went down though.

The persons who got banned did read the FULL article, which is how they could spot the contradiction/confusion in the text. Someone who only read the OP and not clicked through, would not have made those posts. The bans make literally zero logical sense.

You even had someone getting banned for saying "doesn't matter, other sources got more info". Like, that's bannable how? Whar rule is being broken?

You could even easily argue the who dished out the bans is the one who actually didn't read past the first few lines. At this point it seems pretty obvious it was a single person doing all the bans without team input either, or surely another staff member would have caught the error.

Just a very embarrassing, unforced error here.

The right thing to do would be to fess up the mistake, apologize, and revert the moderation decisions. And maybe promise to stop doing hasty, likely solo decisions. But that would mean admitting to having been wrong.


Only if the users being punished actually skipped reading which they clearly didn't

And... Just generally speaking, dishing out infractions for being confused at an article being poorly worded seems absurd on its face, no?

Correct me if I'm wrong but I was under the assumption that there is a process where mods have to get their actions consulted/peer-reviewed before being dished out. is this no longer the case? I swore there was an explanation from the admin team that moderation is not dished out willy nilly so that they can hold themsleves accountable. I'm not being sarcastic here btw. Asking a genuine question.

Correct, that's how it's supposed to be. It didn't always happen for various reasons even years ago though. I imagine it's even worse now.

Still so bitter for being ousted years later

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Little vowel pasta monkey.



Holy shit.

[HaughtyFrank]

Looks like the dude's account got suspended but name searching turns up screenshots of his very important "voice for Gaza"

The thing is, there is definitely fucked up shit going on at the aid sides but I find it far more believable that they got trigger happy IDF soldiers than than coming up with cartoon plans.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-06-30/ty-article/.premium/senior-idf-officers-admit-uncalculated-fire-on-gaza-aid-seekers-after-haaretz-expose/00000197-c136-da62-a9ff-e37fbbab0000


Also why would they give people opioids of all things if the goal is genocide.

[Snoopy]

also, speaking personally as someone who used to do this shit professionally

Lol Ted. There’s a difference between being a professional journalist and brutally murdering one. Writing a bunch of reviews nobody ever read on a site nobody ever visited doesn’t count either.