Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 1)

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

Are you missing the wood for the trees here?

It's a movement about not spending a dime on companies compicit with genocide. Everyone knows it's somewhat impossible to avoid MS products so this thread is about doing in a way you most certainly can (Xbox, gaming).

Guys, you really, really need to start look into things and not just run with the first sentence...🙄

Take a look at what they say about disney:

Disney+
Cancel or don't sign up for Disney+ subscriptions! Disney and its subsidiary

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are complicit in glorifying Israel's regime of genocide and apartheid against Indigenous Palestinians. Marvel's Captain America: Brave New World and Disney's Snow White star actors Shira Haas and Gal Gadot, respectively, that have consciously and irrefutably taken up roles as cultural ambassadors for Israel, directly representing genocidal Israel's propaganda efforts. For Captain America, Marvel and Disney are reviving the racist character of Ruth Bat-Seraph, whose decades-old backstory includes working for Mossad. Disney+ is therefore clearly implicated in enabling Israel's genocide by dehumanizing Palestinians.

To make this clear, I have no Disney+ sub, I don't care about their franchises or anything but this is just... Gal Gadot is an Israeli actress of course she will function as an ambassador for the country cause of her fame. And of course she will sympathize with her people first. And that old Mossad character they are using... I'm sorry but this is not being compliant at all. I just don't see it.

On the contrary, boycotting Tesla because Elon is a Nazi makes sense.

But everyone has to make their own sense of it, I guess

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-bds-movement-calls-for-a-boycott-of-xbox-and-microsoft-gaming-products-over-its-parent-companys-complicity-in-the-genocide-in-gaza.1155057/page-5#post-138099543

User banned (1 week): Inflammatory whataboutisms in a sensitive thread

Targeted boycotts work, we have examples like aphartide south Africa. This kind of cynicism is not good, people have power and voices so it's worth them coordinating together. These changes have been made in the past despite living in a market and being subsumed in all the capitalist goods we need to live, we can still make choices and inact change 🙏

i hope they do work. i went to their insta page and saw this post that explains im what im saying -

tell me by looking at this post below, are you willing to stop using gmail, google searches, amazon, intel, dell, hp, mcdonald's, coke? i can add a few more to this list that includes banks, financial institutions, coffee, snacks, but the list war is not the point. even when i want this boycott to work, my existence in modern western society will not allow it. i can tell you to throw away your xbone, but on monday i'll go to work and turn on my windows pc. what impact am i having?

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(fyi i was already disgusted by this a long time ago, applied for my dual citizenship and plan to retire in asia to get away from this shit. have been called conspiracy theorists by my family/friends for years now for these feelings. it is what it is )

So anyone seeing Marvel films are supporting the genocide? Good to know.

[Orange Juice Box]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-bds-movement-calls-for-a-boycott-of-xbox-and-microsoft-gaming-products-over-its-parent-companys-complicity-in-the-genocide-in-gaza.1155057/page-5#post-138086772

Targeted boycotts work, we have examples like aphartide south Africa. This kind of cynicism is not good, people have power and voices so it's worth them coordinating together. These changes have been made in the past despite living in a market and being subsumed in all the capitalist goods we need to live, we can still make choices and inact change 🙏

i hope they do work. i went to their insta page and saw this post that explains im what im saying -

tell me by looking at this post below, are you willing to stop using gmail, google searches, amazon, intel, dell, hp, mcdonald's, coke? i can add a few more to this list that includes banks, financial institutions, coffee, snacks, but the list war is not the point. even when i want this boycott to work, my existence in modern western society will not allow it. i can tell you to throw away your xbone, but on monday i'll go to work and turn on my windows pc. what impact am i having?

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(fyi i was already disgusted by this a long time ago, applied for my dual citizenship and plan to retire in asia to get away from this shit. have been called conspiracy theorists by my family/friends for years now for these feelings. it is what it is )

What the hell does this mean?  





How many things and how many levels are there when boycotting.  Do I get more points for boycotting Platnium items?  Can I boycott three silver level places and that equals one gold.

Also, "Targeted boycotts work, we have examples like aphartide south Africa."  And what about all those other times?  You couldn't even get Cyberpunk 2077 boycotted from Era.  It's like saying, "wars work, look at World War II." 

Everything is axioms with them because they actually can't prove the things they say.

[Polident]

Trouble with this boycott thing as something fashionable is that trends change. People get bored. They can always prey on bitter folk. But it’s entirely defined by negativity. A series of stuff not to do to reinforce hopelessness and hate. It’d help to promote alternatives or anything mildly positive. Like even that video shared earlier is “good news! things are also bad for others!” You can’t be all stick. You need carrots. There’s a reason our commune doesn’t barter with bundles of sticks.

[benji]

Also, "Targeted boycotts work, we have examples like aphartide south Africa."  And what about all those other times?  

What about that time? The consumer boycotts started in 1959.

It wasn't until the US enacted sanctions in 1986 that apartheid fell apart: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comprehensive_Anti-Apartheid_Act

Israel's not in that situation and boycotting select multi-national companies won't get them there.

Like, these dudes are Nazis. Why do you think sealing them off isn't going to cause them to Final Solution the already destroyed everyone dead of Palestine? When did the last Nazis go "oh shit, the Americans and Soviets are closing in, we better stop with the genocide"?

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/north-carolina-court-of-appeals-just-effectively-overturned-the-states-supreme-court-election-likely-delivering-a-victory-to-jefferson-griffin-r.1155624/

User Banned (1 Week): Trolling

Violence is going to be the only way forward down our current path.

Nah we will make some cool signs and go walk around the city on a Saturday afternoon from 3-5 before dinner to show our displeasure

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/north-carolina-court-of-appeals-just-effectively-overturned-the-states-supreme-court-election-likely-delivering-a-victory-to-jefferson-griffin-r.1155624/

User Banned (1 Week): Trolling

Violence is going to be the only way forward down our current path.

Nah we will make some cool signs and go walk around the city on a Saturday afternoon from 3-5 before dinner to show our displeasure

you could just advocate for violence instead of this shit tbh, fighting scarecrows

[Boredfrom]

Is ZombieBurrito a Nep Alt?

[benji]

I love that they just don't allow it, even though they do especially when staff openly call for it, because they're afraid it's illegal. It's like a perfect encapsulation of all the issues of the forum: widespread ignorance, non-criticism of ignorance/radical rhetoric, emotional blackmail, bad staff decisions, etc. 

[benji]

The only reason I wouldn't just post "somebody should kill President Trump" on here without any qualifiers like this is because I don't want to, however improbably, waste anybody's time by explaining I'm only saying it to make a rhetorical point about how it's not illegal to post. I have to imagine some idiot would report it because of who said it and I've already got a record with the Lithonia Police Department for internet crimes.

[benji]

The only reason I wouldn't just post "somebody should kill President Trump" on here without any qualifiers like this is because I don't want to, however improbably, waste anybody's time by explaining I'm only saying it to make a rhetorical point about how it's not illegal to post. I have to imagine some idiot would report it because of who said it and I've already got a record with the Lithonia Police Department for internet crimes.

"Another day of internet crimes, eh, benji?"
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[normalindividual]

The best thing about MS Flight Simulator is doing bombing runs over Gaza.

[Eric Cartman]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/updated-forum-aggregation-settings.1157172/

Mods: Thank you for your patience over months and months of us saying we are working on things. Today we reveal....a forum filter.

Bit weird people that just wanted to talk about videogames without bringing politics into it on a nominally videogame focussed forum were demonised for years, but making politics an optional opt-out in the actual politics forum gets dedicated admin time so people can discuss wrassling, disney product, and fast food with no pushback, innit?

[Eric Cartman]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/last-week-tonight-talks-about-the-attacks-on-trans-athletes.1156938/#post-138171237

One thing I always like to ask is 'even if trans women have say, a strength or height advantage in sports where those are helpful things... why does it become an *unfair* advantage?'

Like, trans women have plenty of other challenges that are liable to make succeeding at sports more difficult. It's much harder to get a scholarship right now. In a lot of sports they face discrimination every day keeping them from the best coaches and other opportunities. They have to navigate the changing room situation. That's without looking at what their home lives might be like, etc etc etc.

Think of all the things the US pointed at to argue that trans woman couldn't possibly be good soldiers, where as cis woman can. Why do those all suddenly vanish when talking about sports? Why aren't sports that allow trans women being dominated by them? Why is no high level women's sport seeing close to 1% of the participants being trans women?

Could it be that having *one* advantage doesn't necessarily weigh out all the disadvantages?

And again, to loop back to the first question... why is it an *unfair* advantage to be a tall trans woman, but not an *unfair* advantage to be a tall cis woman?

this dude is such a fucking retard.

They don't believe any of this shit; this is, as they used to say, bad faith, disingenous, whataboutism because they've already established outright their actual stance on the matter in previous threads by - as era like to say - saying the quiet part loud, and they're dancing around it here.

Their actual stance is "Trans take so many L's, can't we just let them have some easy W's?" - which is actually fucking mental if you devote a millisecond of thought to it. I suspect they realise that too, which is why they're flinging various other rhetorical shit at the wall to see what if any sticks that they can use to brow beat normies in future with an apparently reasonable point they don't actually believe in.

[Eric Cartman]

Of course Kyuuji even takes issue with Oliver saying that there's not enough research to say anything definitive

Ugh, the collective of lawyers that represent the ethical sports institute (or whatever) already decided that science doesn't matter as much as philosophy, CHUD

IT IS KNOWN IS SETTLED

[Eric Cartman]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/second-child-died-from-measles-related-causes-in-west-texas-where-cases-are-nearing-500.1156563/#post-138148545

Back when I did pharmacy work during the pandemic, it fucking sucked when they were sending the bottles in bulk packages of ten vaccines, because if we got less than ten willing patients that day then we were wasting entire vials, and knowing that the Global South was getting ravaged at the time just sent me.

And on top of that I still had to convince people to get it; pissed off my pharmacists a few times talking on the phone just trying to assuage people that it was safe.

[Eric Cartman]

The only reason I wouldn't just post "somebody should kill President Trump" on here without any qualifiers like this is because I don't want to, however improbably, waste anybody's time by explaining I'm only saying it to make a rhetorical point about how it's not illegal to post. I have to imagine some idiot would report it because of who said it and I've already got a record with the Lithonia Police Department for internet crimes.

I mean... that and a near miss and his response to it made him politically relevant again.
An actual assassination puts the republicans squarely into uncontested power on a martyrdom ticket.

[Eric Cartman]

not "disappointing" per se because I don't follow the group but I think it's disappointing to see this kind of thing as an idea for a birthday party. i can halfway understand if someone does something they are ignorant of depending on context and they apologize and do better after, but what was the point of this? what is fun about doing this kind of thing? it's about racism obviously but as time passes i genuinely do not understand what's so fun about disrespecting groups of people, idk

It's just cosplaying another culture without understanding the history, and to them, the other culture is just a prop for them to play dress up in.
And to them and their fan, because there is no "black" people, it's also "better" and "cleaner"
Same with the various white people Clean Asian cooking/restaurant by celebraty chef.

Same thing as when people dress up in a Kimono, Weild a Lubu or Guan Yu spear and wear a nón lá hat, and say they are "respecting" Asian culture, when all 3 item are from completely different countries with it's own history, and not a "ASIA" thing.

Alex, I'd like to solve the puzzle - Who are the Wu Tang Clan?

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/danzig-is-under-fire-for-using-nazi-imagery-on-merch-on-recent-tour-unfortunate-portion-of-the-metal-community-keeps-defending-it.1157796/#post-138204720

No surprise at all. As someone was in the metal scene for a long time, there's a certain sub-culture who are just full Nazis. Mostly into black metal though. There are a lot of apologists too. I know so many people who were like "I'm not into politics, I just like the music they play" then go and see a band called Mein Kampf.

They really are fucking idiots. Now they're trying to cancel Soundgarden...

Funny I just had one of his old tracks come up on shuffle while reminiscing through my old iTunes library this morning. He was never great on his own.

I always wondered about Soundgarden and their album art for the song Black Hole Sun. I know it's stylized, but that's using the same iconography. Was everyone just like, more chill about that in the 90s?

I would not class Badmotorfinger's sunwheel as related to the Black Sun, there are many sunwheel designs throughout history, it's just that one of them happens to have been used by the Nazi's.

Technically even a Swastika itself can be considered a sunwheel.

Black Hole Sun was on the album Superunknown, album art looked like this:


The Black Hole Sun single art looked like this:


You're talking about the album Badmotorfinger, where the album art looked like this:


Badmotorfinger came out in 1991, Superunknown and Black Hole Sun came out in 1994.

Show me a more retarded community online...I'll wait.

[Potato]

The only reason I wouldn't just post "somebody should kill President Trump" on here without any qualifiers like this is because I don't want to, however improbably, waste anybody's time by explaining I'm only saying it to make a rhetorical point about how it's not illegal to post. I have to imagine some idiot would report it because of who said it and I've already got a record with the Lithonia Police Department for internet crimes.

I mean... that and a near miss and his response to it made him politically relevant again.
An actual assassination puts the republicans squarely into uncontested power on a martyrdom ticket.

Even worse, an assassination means we get President Vance.
 

Mean spirited, vile little cunt that he is

[HaughtyFrank]

not "disappointing" per se because I don't follow the group but I think it's disappointing to see this kind of thing as an idea for a birthday party. i can halfway understand if someone does something they are ignorant of depending on context and they apologize and do better after, but what was the point of this? what is fun about doing this kind of thing? it's about racism obviously but as time passes i genuinely do not understand what's so fun about disrespecting groups of people, idk

It's just cosplaying another culture without understanding the history, and to them, the other culture is just a prop for them to play dress up in.
And to them and their fan, because there is no "black" people, it's also "better" and "cleaner"
Same with the various white people Clean Asian cooking/restaurant by celebraty chef.

Same thing as when people dress up in a Kimono, Weild a Lubu or Guan Yu spear and wear a nón lá hat, and say they are "respecting" Asian culture, when all 3 item are from completely different countries with it's own history, and not a "ASIA" thing.

Alex, I'd like to solve the puzzle - Who are the Wu Tang Clan?

I'm sure they were also really upset when Nicki Minaj did Chun-Li

[Snoopy]

The “High Femme” is upset people are talking about TERF bitch’s books

Ngl I dislike when this thread becomes a Harry Potter book club more than a tracker for the real world harm Rowling and the Gender Critical movement are causing trans people in the UK and abroad.

Completely understandable and I'd agree if the discussion centered around her prose or plot holes or something. But, at least from my end, the discussion is about how she's always exhibited a casual cruelty in her work and "othering" of people of different races and creeds. It's less about her work itsslf and more the things she chose to include that should help inform people of the person she became.

don't need you to agree, I'm speaking to my feelings and not trying to convince you of something. I'm at the point in my life where I'm able to live it fully and it's wonderful, truly. Sat alongside that though is the ever-present threat of it being ripped away and it's not some far-off issue looming on the horizon, it's one piece of law or one court case away. Currently I wonder which day I'll wake up to the conclusion of the Supreme Court case here that could govern my ability to use bathrooms, changing rooms and other basic facilities. It's been months. Separately a trans woman respected in her profession is being dragged through the courts publicly for nothing more than using a changing room at work. Universities are being fined £500,000 for pushing back on transphobia and this re-evaluating their trans inclusion policies. Trans youth have had their access to healthcare banned and new guidance promotes conversion practices. This thread isn't a series of headlines to me, they're things that materially threaten my ability to live or that of people around me.

So I don't care what Harry or Hermione did, I really don't. The point of this thread across time has been to draw focus on the material consequences JK Rowling and the wider Gender Critical movement are having on the trans community, and others affected as a result. For me, it's become the last place I want to read Harry Potter discussion even if it's centred on analysis.

I was just offering my opinion about what you brought up, I didn't mean to upset you or anything. I'll refrain from further discussion of the topic and her works.

In turn I offered an explanation. You didn't upset me, I'm just tired of hearing about Harry Potter.

Not upset at all. It was just pure coincidence a trans mod immediately showed up

[Besticus Maximus]

Kyuuji absolutely lives and breathes for controlling what goes on inside other people's brains.

[Nintex]

The only reason I wouldn't just post "somebody should kill President Trump" on here without any qualifiers like this is because I don't want to, however improbably, waste anybody's time by explaining I'm only saying it to make a rhetorical point about how it's not illegal to post. I have to imagine some idiot would report it because of who said it and I've already got a record with the Lithonia Police Department for internet crimes.

I mean... that and a near miss and his response to it made him politically relevant again.
An actual assassination puts the republicans squarely into uncontested power on a martyrdom ticket.

Even worse, an assassination means we get President Vance.
 

Mean spirited, vile little cunt that he is

*Nukes China*

You didn't even say thank you

[Eric Cartman]

don't need you to agree, I'm speaking to my feelings and not trying to convince you of something. I'm at the point in my life where I'm able to live it fully and it's wonderful, truly. Sat alongside that though is the ever-present threat of it being ripped away and it's not some far-off issue looming on the horizon, it's one piece of law or one court case away. Currently I wonder which day I'll wake up to the conclusion of the Supreme Court case here that could govern my ability to use bathrooms, changing rooms and other basic facilities. It's been months. Separately a trans woman respected in her profession is being dragged through the courts publicly for nothing more than using a changing room at work. Universities are being fined £500,000 for pushing back on transphobia and this re-evaluating their trans inclusion policies. Trans youth have had their access to healthcare banned and new guidance promotes conversion practices. This thread isn't a series of headlines to me, they're things that materially threaten my ability to live or that of people around me.

I mean... a member of their faculty had to have a police escort to go to work due to credible threats of violence against her, and the university - her actual workplace employers - did absolutely fuck all to stop her being actually literally IRL harassed by demonstrators of which a portion weren't even students.

OFC they're losing that lawsuit and getting slapped with fines. Very deservedly so.

But sure, if 'pushing back on transphobia' is your narrative, pikachu face the next time some clearly outrageous behaviour against someone you designated a valid target gets the opposite result you want in terms of public support and legal protections.

[malfoyking]

The “High Femme” is upset people are talking about TERF bitch’s books

Ngl I dislike when this thread becomes a Harry Potter book club more than a tracker for the real world harm Rowling and the Gender Critical movement are causing trans people in the UK and abroad.

Completely understandable and I'd agree if the discussion centered around her prose or plot holes or something. But, at least from my end, the discussion is about how she's always exhibited a casual cruelty in her work and "othering" of people of different races and creeds. It's less about her work itsslf and more the things she chose to include that should help inform people of the person she became.

don't need you to agree, I'm speaking to my feelings and not trying to convince you of something. I'm at the point in my life where I'm able to live it fully and it's wonderful, truly. Sat alongside that though is the ever-present threat of it being ripped away and it's not some far-off issue looming on the horizon, it's one piece of law or one court case away. Currently I wonder which day I'll wake up to the conclusion of the Supreme Court case here that could govern my ability to use bathrooms, changing rooms and other basic facilities. It's been months. Separately a trans woman respected in her profession is being dragged through the courts publicly for nothing more than using a changing room at work. Universities are being fined £500,000 for pushing back on transphobia and this re-evaluating their trans inclusion policies. Trans youth have had their access to healthcare banned and new guidance promotes conversion practices. This thread isn't a series of headlines to me, they're things that materially threaten my ability to live or that of people around me.

So I don't care what Harry or Hermione did, I really don't. The point of this thread across time has been to draw focus on the material consequences JK Rowling and the wider Gender Critical movement are having on the trans community, and others affected as a result. For me, it's become the last place I want to read Harry Potter discussion even if it's centred on analysis.

I was just offering my opinion about what you brought up, I didn't mean to upset you or anything. I'll refrain from further discussion of the topic and her works.

In turn I offered an explanation. You didn't upset me, I'm just tired of hearing about Harry Potter.

Not upset at all. It was just pure coincidence a trans mod immediately showed up

What topic? Im curious?

[Snoopy]

TERF BITCH thread


Elsewhere Nintendots are getting humped again

Nintendo has confirmed that pre-orders for the Nintendo Switch 2 have been delayed in Canada past their originally scheduled April 9 start date.

"Pre-orders for Nintendo Switch 2 in Canada will not start on April 9, 2025 in order to align with the timing of pre-orders to be determined in the U.S.," Nintendo of Canada said in a statement to MobileSyrup. "Nintendo will provide updated information at a later date. The launch date of June 5, 2025 is unchanged."

I suspect it's to prevent Americans buying all the Canadian stock.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/nintendo-delays-switch-2-pre-orders-in-canada.1158294/

[Jansen]

ETA on the "I want to die because I can't get a switch 2" thread?

[DavidCroquet]

The “High Femme” is upset people are talking about TERF bitch’s books

Ngl I dislike when this thread becomes a Harry Potter book club more than a tracker for the real world harm Rowling and the Gender Critical movement are causing trans people in the UK and abroad.

Not sure the current thread title--JK Rowling Superdome! Banned topic sanctuary thread! All things JK, all the time! (feat. trans)--is encouraging the kind of engagement that Kyuuji is hoping for.

[DavidCroquet]

Super late to this, but as someone who identifies as Demisexual...

...fuck JK Rowling.

[DavidCroquet]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-bds-movement-calls-for-a-boycott-of-xbox-and-microsoft-gaming-products-over-its-parent-companys-complicity-in-the-genocide-in-gaza.1155057/page-6#post-138122772

Trash company. I unfortunately own their console and have a paid for Game Pass sub. Not giving them another cent though.