Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 1)

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

Era backed the wrong horse

Was just about to post this. The Era thread hasn't been touched since Fat4All got his backpats for defending a nonce.

Is this a chud victory or will there be more?! 

Vice should at the very least apologize publicly but I bet they won't.

[benji]

Nazis shutting down journalism with threats. This is why we need y'all in the streets. 

[Jeff_at_the_laughfactory]

Can someone with an Era account check what Echo's posted in the Burka thread?

[HaughtyFrank]

Era backed the wrong horse

Wait, Vice deleted the articles after the insane huge grandstanding about supporting Valens? Lmao, holy shit, wow

I have never seen such an incredible backfire

[benji]

lmao they deleted this too:

Both of them seem made for each other.

I know Vice have no standards but, if any editor readings these posts, THIS IS THE REASON YOU DONT PUBLISH AN ARTICLE WHERE THE REPORTER BECOMES THE STORY.

Waypoint Stands With Ana Valens
It’s time to definitively stand on business and say that what’s happening to Waypoint’s own Ana Valens is utterly unacceptable.
By Dwayne Jenkins
May 12, 2025, 11:16am

Often, when faced with an immense wave of hatred, it’s easy to cower. To capitulate. To allow them the satisfaction of knowing they’ve broken you. But then, along comes people like Ana Valens, who willingly throws herself into the fires of humanity’s worst to shine a light on how rotten certain sections of the internet are.

For the necessary full context, please read Ana’s piece on the harrowing (and continuing) harassment she’s been facing. She’s much better at properly articulating the full scope of everything she’s going through, but I’ll sum it up. Ana is being attacked for simply asking questions about certain areas of the VTubing community — which she’s an active part of. What began as asking about VAllure’s stances on trans creators working for them spiraled into a full-blown hate campaign once Ana started questioning why prominent VTuber, Kirsche, was being promoted and represented by Gamer Supps following many, many worrying red flags.

Since then, Ana has been receiving vitriol from nearly every corner of the internet. For the sake of everyone’s sanity, I refuse to give those people power by explicitly naming them. Y’all won’t be receiving that satisfaction here. Instead, I’m going to let everyone have a little sampler of what’s been going on for the past week or so.

ANA'S STRUGGLE MUST BE SHOWN IN ITS TOTALITY

So, here’s the deal. Ana’s ongoing plight has reached critical mass. The people advocating for Ana, anyone belonging to the LGBTQIA+ communities, and any other marginalized groups, to endlessly suffer? That’s only one part of a truly disgusting equation. The other — equally important — part is: Why are clear, unambiguous bigots and racists allowed major platforms? Why are they given sponsorships and brand deals?

Because we can bicker back and forth online all day long, but at the end of the day, the likes of YouTube, Twitch, and every other notable space that allows this to thrive and fester? Those are the ones who need to be forced to come out and say, “Yes, this is the kind of content we want and will subsist from going forward.”

For all y’all goofy racists and bigots? I don’t have the time to address you directly. Reason won’t work with you — you’re all lost causes. But I know that Ana (and myself as a Black man) wants every notable platform, from games journalism to the games industry and every other major media company? Own your stance. You will not be allowed to sit on the fence any longer. Either you reprimand and punish the bigotry, racism, and hatred, or you come out and admit that that’s exactly the audience and legacy you want.

THE TIME FOR GAMES IS OVER

Twiddling your thumbs and pretending it isn’t there isn’t sufficient. Sure, it’s Ana today. But after the LGBTQIA+ “issue” has been dealt with among that crowd? It’ll be “the Browns” (which is currently happening, too). Then, “the Blacks.” Hate has a tendency to do that — become an ever-growing pit that’ll never be satisfied.

Because they need an opponent. For many of them, hatred is their brand — it’s all they have to make up for the fact that, without it, they have nothing. There certainly isn’t a personality worth being around underneath all of that filth, after all. They’re classical bullies. And they crave your engagement. So, rather than engaging them personally, you engage the forces funding and feeding their nonsense.

The ball’s in everyone else’s court now. Choose.

Dwayne Jenkins is Waypoint’s Managing Editor.

THE TIME FOR GAMES IS BACK

[killamajig]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/what-have-been-your-stress-relievers-the-past-few-months.1188489/page-3#post-139974372

Coke and alcohol to be perfectly honest.

Not sustainable but it's working for now.

[HaughtyFrank]

Was hoping Valens would crash out on twitter. They're posting porn instead

[DocWager]

I did not catch the story whatsoever previously.

Very intriguing stuff…

[DocWager]

Was hoping Valens would crash out on twitter. They're posting porn instead

This seems to be a pattern with those types. Melody, Two Hearts, and possibly Echoes if he has a Bluesky account.

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

Was hoping Valens would crash out on twitter. They're posting porn instead

normal girl stuff

[Boredfrom]

lmao they deleted this too:

Both of them seem made for each other.

I know Vice have no standards but, if any editor readings these posts, THIS IS THE REASON YOU DONT PUBLISH AN ARTICLE WHERE THE REPORTER BECOMES THE STORY.

Waypoint Stands With Ana Valens
It’s time to definitively stand on business and say that what’s happening to Waypoint’s own Ana Valens is utterly unacceptable.
By Dwayne Jenkins
May 12, 2025, 11:16am

Often, when faced with an immense wave of hatred, it’s easy to cower. To capitulate. To allow them the satisfaction of knowing they’ve broken you. But then, along comes people like Ana Valens, who willingly throws herself into the fires of humanity’s worst to shine a light on how rotten certain sections of the internet are.

For the necessary full context, please read Ana’s piece on the harrowing (and continuing) harassment she’s been facing. She’s much better at properly articulating the full scope of everything she’s going through, but I’ll sum it up. Ana is being attacked for simply asking questions about certain areas of the VTubing community — which she’s an active part of. What began as asking about VAllure’s stances on trans creators working for them spiraled into a full-blown hate campaign once Ana started questioning why prominent VTuber, Kirsche, was being promoted and represented by Gamer Supps following many, many worrying red flags.

Since then, Ana has been receiving vitriol from nearly every corner of the internet. For the sake of everyone’s sanity, I refuse to give those people power by explicitly naming them. Y’all won’t be receiving that satisfaction here. Instead, I’m going to let everyone have a little sampler of what’s been going on for the past week or so.

ANA'S STRUGGLE MUST BE SHOWN IN ITS TOTALITY

So, here’s the deal. Ana’s ongoing plight has reached critical mass. The people advocating for Ana, anyone belonging to the LGBTQIA+ communities, and any other marginalized groups, to endlessly suffer? That’s only one part of a truly disgusting equation. The other — equally important — part is: Why are clear, unambiguous bigots and racists allowed major platforms? Why are they given sponsorships and brand deals?

Because we can bicker back and forth online all day long, but at the end of the day, the likes of YouTube, Twitch, and every other notable space that allows this to thrive and fester? Those are the ones who need to be forced to come out and say, “Yes, this is the kind of content we want and will subsist from going forward.”

For all y’all goofy racists and bigots? I don’t have the time to address you directly. Reason won’t work with you — you’re all lost causes. But I know that Ana (and myself as a Black man) wants every notable platform, from games journalism to the games industry and every other major media company? Own your stance. You will not be allowed to sit on the fence any longer. Either you reprimand and punish the bigotry, racism, and hatred, or you come out and admit that that’s exactly the audience and legacy you want.

THE TIME FOR GAMES IS OVER

Twiddling your thumbs and pretending it isn’t there isn’t sufficient. Sure, it’s Ana today. But after the LGBTQIA+ “issue” has been dealt with among that crowd? It’ll be “the Browns” (which is currently happening, too). Then, “the Blacks.” Hate has a tendency to do that — become an ever-growing pit that’ll never be satisfied.

Because they need an opponent. For many of them, hatred is their brand — it’s all they have to make up for the fact that, without it, they have nothing. There certainly isn’t a personality worth being around underneath all of that filth, after all. They’re classical bullies. And they crave your engagement. So, rather than engaging them personally, you engage the forces funding and feeding their nonsense.

The ball’s in everyone else’s court now. Choose.

Dwayne Jenkins is Waypoint’s Managing Editor.

THE TIME FOR GAMES IS BACK

[benji]

I love it when the transbians forget the script they wrote themselves.



they always knew


"NEVER" would have known

This is a perfect example of how incredibly stupid they are and how it's all an unhealthy obsession with power.

They spent decades being men doing what they do and being fine with it and arguably themselves, because men can do whatever they want. But it wasn't until they "learned" that they can say "oh I'm a girl" that they realized "oh I can say I'm a girl" as if this should matter. What do they gain from it? They literally can't explain it. They just want the label because they want the power of being able to browbeat others with it. And that's it, that's the entire thing they want, the power they think comes with being able to call themselves a woman. A power their state still enforces with violence if they put in a little bit of effort but is too much for them, they want the power and the violence without any effort on their part except personal declaration.

This is what they actually "learned" that there was power over others they weren't accessing. This is their real regrets, that they spent so much of their life not knowing they could have been threatening people to make them do things. (Even though they couldn't, the GRA was only passed in 2004 and the self-ID thing never had any power in the West until that point.)

But they still apparently haven't learned that yes, it's totally fine to be a man and enjoy lesbians, Pokemon, video games especially fighting games and RPGs, seeing movies in theaters an absurd number of times, trying to walk like a dinosaur, wasps, etc. No, this must be "girl" things because uh, well, they can't explain that either without resorting to personal hangups with their own individual conception of masculinity that nobody else is required to subscribe to.

[Besticus Maximus]

Editors note: Upon review, we have decided to withdraw our support from the unhinged sex maniac

[benji]

[killamajig]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/kelsey-grammer-says-he-considers-beast-to-be-the-martin-luther-king-jr-of-the-x-men.1188978/

Coming from the Trump supporting homophobe...not surprised to hear him say some shit like this.

I look forward to all these guys NOT watching Avengers: Doomsday when it comes out.

Surely no one would find an excuse to repeatedly watch a movie, knowing it benefits a "Trump-supporting homophobe"?

[benji]

Look at this dude's fucking linkedin profile:

[Boredfrom]

“Kirsche has shit political opinions.”

So? 

Just don’t watch her, just don’t watch people you don’t like or think they are idiots.

[books]

"But you see, hashtag I stand with ana valens wasn't supposed to be taken literally." - Dwayne Jenkins

[benji]

“Kirsche has shit political opinions.”

So? 

Just don’t watch her, just don’t watch people you don’t like or think they are idiots.

How will this get them to stop existing?

[killamajig]

By the looks of his posts he's upset that the spotlight he put on someone else is now on him. He's telling them..

Y'all can ogle at any screencaps because I know you consider it a *gotcha.*

Y'all right. Whatever you think I am: sure. Find something else to do.

This soft bitch wants to throw shit at people but cries when it's throw back. 

[benji]

By the looks of his posts he's upset that the spotlight he put on someone else is now on him. He's telling them..

Y'all can ogle at any screencaps because I know you consider it a *gotcha.*

Y'all right. Whatever you think I am: sure. Find something else to do.

This soft bitch wants to throw shit at people but cries when it's throw back. 

He's talking about this other piece he wrote that was mostly bitching about how people will call him a scab for taking the Waypoint job, it was only slightly about the Valens stuff:

Today marks the 7-month anniversary of “Nu Waypoint,” actually. And if I had to do this all over again, knowing I’d be a villain in games journalism’s rogues’ gallery? I would in a heartbeat. Because here’s the stone-cold truth: for as doomed as this vessel may be? It’s a vessel with many eyes on it. And with that visibility, we always lend the mic to underrepresented games. Indie teams can easily use this brand to get their projects the recognition they deserve.

If I’m meant to go down with the “Nu Waypoint” ship and be eternally doomed in games journalism if (or “when”) the bottom falls out? Y’all better not ostracize everyone else on this team. Shaun, Anthony, Matt, Brent, and Ana? They all hopped aboard a disastrous situation for themselves simply by aligning with “Nu Waypoint.” Because I promised them more than the cataclysmic lows we were accustomed to. I told each of them that this would be better than that. Don’t punish them for simply wanting an unoppressive space to freely talk about a medium they love.

Y'ALL CAN TELL ME TO GO TO HELL BUT LEAVE MY TEAM OUT OF IT

As of this writing, in real time, Ana is the subject of a dedicated, impassioned hate campaign against her.

And her story isn’t reaching the right spaces, partially because of the reputation of “Zombie Waypoint.” I acknowledge the reasoning behind ResetEra, Aftermath, and anyone else who wants this outlet to perish because y’all believe I had no right to accept this job — or that this is a mockery of what existed before.

Maybe we make it to a full year and beyond. Maybe we don’t. But one thing I won’t allow is for anyone to erase and ignore all the good everyone here has done. And if you think this team hasn’t done anything worth acknowledging? Allow me to prove you wrong.

That tweet's too early for it to be related to these Valens article deletions.

Here's the archive of that whole thing, I only quoted one part of it: https://archive.ph/Ep7tQ

[Potato]

I did not catch the story whatsoever previously.

Very intriguing stuff…

Streamer drama is anything but intriguing.

#killallstreamers

[Potato]

I love it when the transbians forget the script they wrote themselves.



they always knew


"NEVER" would have known

This is a perfect example of how incredibly stupid they are and how it's all an unhealthy obsession with power.

They spent decades being men doing what they do and being fine with it and arguably themselves, because men can do whatever they want. But it wasn't until they "learned" that they can say "oh I'm a girl" that they realized "oh I can say I'm a girl" as if this should matter. What do they gain from it? They literally can't explain it. They just want the label because they want the power of being able to browbeat others with it. And that's it, that's the entire thing they want, the power they think comes with being able to call themselves a woman. A power their state still enforces with violence if they put in a little bit of effort but is too much for them, they want the power and the violence without any effort on their part except personal declaration.

This is what they actually "learned" that there was power over others they weren't accessing. This is their real regrets, that they spent so much of their life not knowing they could have been threatening people to make them do things. (Even though they couldn't, the GRA was only passed in 2004 and the self-ID thing never had any power in the West until that point.)

But they still apparently haven't learned that yes, it's totally fine to be a man and enjoy lesbians, Pokemon, video games especially fighting games and RPGs, seeing movies in theaters an absurd number of times, trying to walk like a dinosaur, wasps, etc. No, this must be "girl" things because uh, well, they can't explain that either without resorting to personal hangups with their own individual conception of masculinity that nobody else is required to subscribe to.

Particularly for the terminally online shut-in types who don't have to go out in public and face the consequences of being a "woman".

[killamajig]

Look at this dude's fucking linkedin profile:

Next stop......

"Will Staff Write or Edit for food"

[nachobro]

By the looks of his posts he's upset that the spotlight he put on someone else is now on him. He's telling them..

Y'all can ogle at any screencaps because I know you consider it a *gotcha.*

Y'all right. Whatever you think I am: sure. Find something else to do.

This soft bitch wants to throw shit at people but cries when it's throw back. 

personally i think he's soon to be out of a job, we'll see if i'm right!

even gerstmann was clowning on neo-waypoint on his pod this week

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/gamergate-2-0-chuds-furious-about-a-consulting-company-named-%E2%80%9Csweet-baby-inc%E2%80%9D-which-overviews-scripts-to-make-sure-nothing-offensive-was-written.823731/page-188#post-139974867

Kind of hate the current situation with the Vtuber nazi getting what she wanted, despite of how obvious she is with her sharing white supremacist content now the usual chuds are pushing her crap and forcing the Vice article showing how much of piece of shit she is removed by threatening to sue for libel, despite using straight up clips of her being a white supremacist

[nachobro]

even the resettis are over it


https://www.resetera.com/threads/gamergate-2-0-chuds-furious-about-a-consulting-company-named-%E2%80%9Csweet-baby-inc%E2%80%9D-which-overviews-scripts-to-make-sure-nothing-offensive-was-written.823731/page-188#post-139836876


https://www.resetera.com/threads/gamergate-2-0-chuds-furious-about-a-consulting-company-named-%E2%80%9Csweet-baby-inc%E2%80%9D-which-overviews-scripts-to-make-sure-nothing-offensive-was-written.823731/page-188#post-139873827

[benji]

Fortress/Soros can handle VICE's pricy Brooklyn real estate but not a slam dunk libel dismissal from a vtuber who doesn't even have any legal representation yet? Have they seen what else VICE has published over the years?

[Boredfrom]

ERA: Bitch threatened to sue. 

Also ERA: Believe all women, CHUDS!

[Boredfrom]

By the looks of his posts he's upset that the spotlight he put on someone else is now on him. He's telling them..

Y'all can ogle at any screencaps because I know you consider it a *gotcha.*

Y'all right. Whatever you think I am: sure. Find something else to do.

This soft bitch wants to throw shit at people but cries when it's throw back. 

personally i think he's soon to be out of a job, we'll see if i'm right!

even gerstmann was clowning on neo-waypoint on his pod this week

As mismanaged as Vice is… why any company will employ an Editor that green lights hit pieces were the reporter pulls himself in the story and is clear has personal bias against the people in the article?