Journal of Other Forum Analysis

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/yes-it-is-trans-genocide-a-faq-and-what-you-can-do-about-it-today.711593/page-4#post-110576881

No one hates women more than TERFs.

They take pride in how fucking miserable they are in themselves, and then blame us for "appropriating" them because we're actually Happy and not miserable and self-hating. Because being a woman is Suffering apparently and you're doing it wrong any other way.

100% brainwashed by patriarchy.

 

[BIONIC]

because we're actually Happy and not miserable and self-hating.

[Eric Cartman]

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/page-85#post-110504668

There's nothing more odious than people wallowing in self-pity for not being freely able to ruin other people's life in peace.

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/yes-it-is-trans-genocide-a-faq-and-what-you-can-do-about-it-today.711593/page-4#post-110576881

No one hates women more than TERFs.

They take pride in how fucking miserable they are in themselves, and then blame us for "appropriating" them because we're actually Happy and not miserable and self-hating. Because being a woman is Suffering apparently and you're doing it wrong any other way.

100% brainwashed by patriarchy.

 

Ree transwomen loathe cis and transwomen who don't follow their steps more than TERFs.

[Boredfrom]

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https://www.resetera.com/threads/yes-it-is-trans-genocide-a-faq-and-what-you-can-do-about-it-today.711593/page-4#post-110576881

No one hates women more than TERFs.

They take pride in how fucking miserable they are in themselves, and then blame us for "appropriating" them because we're actually Happy and not miserable and self-hating. Because being a woman is Suffering apparently and you're doing it wrong any other way.

100% brainwashed by patriarchy.

 

If RE was sane, she will be banned for that chauvinistic rant.

[BIONIC]

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https://www.resetera.com/threads/yes-it-is-trans-genocide-a-faq-and-what-you-can-do-about-it-today.711593/page-4#post-110576881

No one hates women more than TERFs.

They take pride in how fucking miserable they are in themselves, and then blame us for "appropriating" them because we're actually Happy and not miserable and self-hating. Because being a woman is Suffering apparently and you're doing it wrong any other way.

100% brainwashed by patriarchy.

 

Ree transwomen loathe cis and transwomen who don't follow their steps more than TERFs.

*Trans women, chudlord

[Polident]

Gotta say, whenever I encounter a branded terf, self or by the village, they tend to go on about a variety of womens issues. Pretty consistently living up to the F part. People can argue about trans topic. But even Joanne raised funds to get women in danger out of Afghanistan. A gesture almost on par with adding “save afghan women” to a Nintendo thread title.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/trans-women-banned-from-competing-in-women%E2%80%99s-chess-events.754282/#post-110580736

All transphobes are inherently also total misogynists.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/trans-women-banned-from-competing-in-women%E2%80%99s-chess-events.754282/#post-110581015

Transphobia ALWAYS hide other bigotries, most of the time is misoginy, but it can also be racism

https://www.resetera.com/threads/trans-women-banned-from-competing-in-women%E2%80%99s-chess-events.754282/page-3#post-110583769

Yup. All queerphobia has misogyny down at its very roots.

 

[Propagandhim]

New microaggression just dropped 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-guardian-dogwhistles-so-loud-it-should-just-be-called-whistling.754093/

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-guardian-dogwhistles-so-loud-it-should-just-be-called-whistling.754093/

Once again it takes 2 pages after the "fuck offfff"s for one single person to show that they've read the article.   

 


Excel just posts a picture, and even that picture says "pre-pandemic era grading". It implies nothing about the capability of black students. The mode of grading has changed. You stupid, stupid, bitch.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

excel is a yt right?

[Propagandhim]

Excel lives on twitter, finds a thread that is filled with outrage hocked by other people as sad as her, doesn't even bother to read said article that is the locus of outrage, and just spreads her slime everywhere.  Miserable cretin. You can't help these people. This is innate.

[Taco Bell Tower]

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https://www.resetera.com/threads/yes-it-is-trans-genocide-a-faq-and-what-you-can-do-about-it-today.711593/page-4#post-110576881

 

Ree transwomen loathe cis and transwomen who don't follow their steps more than TERFs.

*Trans women, chudlord

As a conservative Christian plz dun ban me

[books]

Why isn't trans represented in chess pieces? I've discovered a new genocide.

[HaughtyFrank]

excel is a yt right?

Yes

One time some RE member said to her "I thought you were black?" and she was like "No, but thank you tehehe   " not realizing that maybe she shouldn't speak with such authority on racism then.

[HaughtyFrank]

New microaggression just dropped 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-guardian-dogwhistles-so-loud-it-should-just-be-called-whistling.754093/

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-guardian-dogwhistles-so-loud-it-should-just-be-called-whistling.754093/

Once again it takes 2 pages after the "fuck offfff"s for one single person to show that they've read the article.   

 


Excel just posts a picture, and even that picture says "pre-pandemic era grading".  It implies nothing about the capability of black students.  The mode of grading has changed.  You stupid, stupid, bitch.

IDK folks, there is so much wrong and so many struggles in the world, I just don't understand why people tie themselves in knots to invent new things to be miserable and angry about. It tars all your other fights with the same brush. People who are on your side are going to be cautious of anything you say going forward, and people who aren't are going to use your overreaction as ammunition.

[NekoFever]

That chess decision is stupid and the statement painfully awful and they still manage to fill the thread with the dumbest takes.

[Potato]

Why is chess divided on gender lines anyway?

[HaughtyFrank]

Why is chess divided on gender lines anyway?

The assumption seems to be that the almost completely male dominated scene would scare off female newcomers so they have female only tournaments to appeal to those and nurture talent. I believe any "male" tournament is open to all genders.

[NekoFever]

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Why is chess divided on gender lines anyway?

I imagine it’s less for competitive reasons and more to encourage women to play because, well, can you imagine being the one woman in among the hundreds of social butterflies who no doubt dominate high level chess?

[Straight Edge]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/mortgage-rates-top-7-hitting-21-year-high.754273/page-3

Imagine a thread about layoffs and people being like “still got my job”. That’s how all of you bragging about your 2% rates sound.

This. Keep the humble bragging out of this thread where more people than not are being fucked by the situation.

Folks in here touting their awesome rates while other people struggle feels weird.

The “fuck you, got mine” mentality transcends generations. Full on boomerism on display from a supposedly progressive community, and it’s fucking gross.

[Uncle]

Why is chess divided on gender lines anyway?

The assumption seems to be that the almost completely male dominated scene would scare off female newcomers so they have female only tournaments to appeal to those and nurture talent. I believe any "male" tournament is open to all genders.

you know...if I'm a modern day woman who likes chess but feels awkward entering a male-dominated space, and I go to the local female chess organization to have fun playing this game with other women, only to discover that half the people there are trans...

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/trans-women-banned-from-competing-in-women%E2%80%99s-chess-events.754282/page-3#post-110584066

Wait, hold on - is this article even accurate? What I see in the actual rules linked (in the article) is that trans women are fully permitted to play in women's evens once FIDE (the governing body) confirms their transition. The 2 year period is the maximum FIDE is allowed to take to make that verification, which is supposed to occur at "the earliest possible time."

From https://handbook.fide.com/chapter/TransgenderRegulations -

III. Temporary restrictions after change of the gender

These regulations apply to all competitions under the aegis of the Global Strategy Commission, Events Commission, and events providing qualification spots to the World Cup and World Team Championships.

The following restrictions shall be applied to a player after the change of the gender in FIDE ID:

In the event that the gender was changed from a male to a female the player has no right to participate in official FIDE events for women until further FIDE's decision is made. Such decision should be based on further analysis and shall be taken by the FIDE Council at the earliest possible time, but not longer than within 2 (two) years period. There are no restrictions to play in the open section for a person who has changed the gender.

The idea appears to be to prevent cis men from cynically fake-transitioning to play in women's events, where considerable sums of prize money can be at stake. My immediate reaction is that that is silly and not worth the effort to police unless it happens a lot, but it's very very different from the article's framing.

I think the author just misread the FIDE rules? I could also be off base, as I'm doing ~3 minutes of research at work as my due diligence here.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/trans-women-banned-from-competing-in-women%E2%80%99s-chess-events.754282/page-3#post-110584624

The idea appears to be to prevent cis men from cynically fake-transitioning to play in women's events

This isn't a thing, has never been a thing, never will be a thing, and anyone arguing this point is doing it in bad faith. It's the go-to pretext of the transphobe.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/trans-women-banned-from-competing-in-women%E2%80%99s-chess-events.754282/page-3#post-110584981

This isn't a thing, has never been a thing, never will be a thing, and anyone arguing this point is doing it in bad faith. It's the go-to pretext of the transphobe.

https://www.chess.com/news/view/cheating-kenya-open-women-championship-impostor 

A mysterious participant in the women's section of the Kenya Open Chess Championship in Nairobi, Kenya was exposed as a male impostor and removed from the tournament. The player, whose identity was not made public, admitted to the cheating and said it was motivated by financial problems. He has now been banned for three years from playing official games in Kenya.

Happened in April this year - I wonder if this is what triggered the push? In this case it was someone who was a straight male who just hid under a hijab; but I wonder if the FIDE rule asking for legal confirmation of the gender change is to stop someone from doing this?

[books]

Imagine being the best girl chess player at your local chess club and then being told new chick with the cheeto fingers and stained t-shirt is coming to take your title.

[Uncle]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/trans-women-banned-from-competing-in-women%E2%80%99s-chess-events.754282/page-3#post-110584624

The idea appears to be to prevent cis men from cynically fake-transitioning to play in women's events

This isn't a thing, has never been a thing, never will be a thing, and anyone arguing this point is doing it in bad faith. It's the go-to pretext of the transphobe.

ok, so, if it's not happening then what's wrong with a rule codifying it? no one will ever be caught up by this rule because nobody ever cynically fake-transitions just to make money


"it's illegal to own a pet tiger within the city limits of chicago"
"oh this is fearmongering over nothing, nobody owns a pet tiger"
"good, and this will keep it that way, what's your objection"

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/trans-women-banned-from-competing-in-women%E2%80%99s-chess-events.754282/page-3#post-110584066

Wait, hold on - is this article even accurate? What I see in the actual rules linked (in the article) is that trans women are fully permitted to play in women's evens once FIDE (the governing body) confirms their transition. The 2 year period is the maximum FIDE is allowed to take to make that verification, which is supposed to occur at "the earliest possible time."

From https://handbook.fide.com/chapter/TransgenderRegulations -

III. Temporary restrictions after change of the gender

These regulations apply to all competitions under the aegis of the Global Strategy Commission, Events Commission, and events providing qualification spots to the World Cup and World Team Championships.

The following restrictions shall be applied to a player after the change of the gender in FIDE ID:

In the event that the gender was changed from a male to a female the player has no right to participate in official FIDE events for women until further FIDE's decision is made. Such decision should be based on further analysis and shall be taken by the FIDE Council at the earliest possible time, but not longer than within 2 (two) years period. There are no restrictions to play in the open section for a person who has changed the gender.

The idea appears to be to prevent cis men from cynically fake-transitioning to play in women's events, where considerable sums of prize money can be at stake. My immediate reaction is that that is silly and not worth the effort to police unless it happens a lot, but it's very very different from the article's framing.

I think the author just misread the FIDE rules? I could also be off base, as I'm doing ~3 minutes of research at work as my due diligence here.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/trans-women-banned-from-competing-in-women%E2%80%99s-chess-events.754282/page-3#post-110584624

This isn't a thing, has never been a thing, never will be a thing, and anyone arguing this point is doing it in bad faith. It's the go-to pretext of the transphobe.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/trans-women-banned-from-competing-in-women%E2%80%99s-chess-events.754282/page-3#post-110584639

that is not the idea, no. the idea is what it says it is, the exclusion of trans women.

next time three minutes of research gives you the confidence to repeat obvious transmisogynist bullshit, maybe do a little more research? your immediate reaction is not needed.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/trans-women-banned-from-competing-in-women%E2%80%99s-chess-events.754282/page-3#post-110584840

My friends, I am just trying to understand what the facts are. I disagree with either approach - both the full ban with a 2-year window to evaluate (obviously) and FIDE's 2-year verification window for each trans player. But I think the situation may be the latter not the former, and the difference matters, and I'm not going to apologize for trying to understand whether the article is wrong (which I think it may be, largely because FIDE's rule is written poorly).

https://www.resetera.com/threads/trans-women-banned-from-competing-in-women%E2%80%99s-chess-events.754282/page-3#post-110585515

We can't go one single trans thread without someone "just asking questions...".

https://www.resetera.com/threads/trans-women-banned-from-competing-in-women%E2%80%99s-chess-events.754282/page-3#post-110585764

don't apologize if you don't think you did anything wrong, but you did, and don't call me friend while you're being transmisogynist.

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/trans-women-banned-from-competing-in-women%E2%80%99s-chess-events.754282/page-3#post-110584624

The idea appears to be to prevent cis men from cynically fake-transitioning to play in women's events

This isn't a thing, has never been a thing, never will be a thing, and anyone arguing this point is doing it in bad faith. It's the go-to pretext of the transphobe.

[Potato]

Why is chess divided on gender lines anyway?

The assumption seems to be that the almost completely male dominated scene would scare off female newcomers so they have female only tournaments to appeal to those and nurture talent. I believe any "male" tournament is open to all genders.

1692305343[/url]']
Why is chess divided on gender lines anyway?

I imagine it’s less for competitive reasons and more to encourage women to play because, well, can you imagine being the one woman in among the hundreds of social butterflies who no doubt dominate high level chess?

Bitches want equality, bit they ain't ready for it.

[Potato]

Transmisogynist is a relatively new one. Seems explicitly like someone trying to make out that male to female trans people "have it worse". 

The oppression Olympics have layers like an onion.

[NekoFever]

If so, then it would be very telling as to ICF's attitude about trans women to draw such a comparison to a devious imposter. Then again, the ban alone makes their bigotry plenty clear as it is.

“Fake news, that’s never happened. They’re just bigots.”
“Actually it has — see this example.”
“Ah, you see, their comparison to this devious imposter only confirms their bigotry.”