(12-26-2024, 12:07 PM)Nintex wrote: Potato for Trump
Anyway, the civil war I predicted would happen before the election has finally started. Regular/Old MAGA does not like tech bro MAGA because tech bro MAGA supports immigration and automation. So now the question is will Trump throw the fantastic Laura Loomer and friends under the bus or Vivek, Elon and the Indians. Elon and the bois are responding to people who say: "They took our jobs" by saying it's a skill issue and that the US always needed immigrants to achieve great things like Wehrner von Braun. 
I never understood why the Democrats didn't exploit this rift prior to the election because it was already boiling at the RNC.
All I’ll say is Vivek has poor instincts and is tone deaf. Won’t leap to calling him an idiot, but his takeaway from watching Whiplash is #grindset…
12-26-2024, 11:54 PM
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12-27-2024, 12:25 AM
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So the whole plan to cut costs was to hire indians this entire fucking time, I'm laughing so hard I just can't
I mean, this is what we all told you. Harris might have been a complete dud candidate, but anything was going to be better than this rabble of fuckwits.
harris would've pushed the same thing, it just wouldn't be overt and would quietly happen behind closed doors until it's a huge problem
would rather the idiots in charge loudly state their plans
It’s kind of great how right wing dudes telling Elon to eat shit is having him embrace his inner butthurt forum mod. All the money in the world couldn’t make him somebody who posts.
(12-26-2024, 12:07 PM)Nintex wrote: Potato for Trump
Anyway, the civil war I predicted would happen before the election has finally started. Regular/Old MAGA does not like tech bro MAGA because tech bro MAGA supports immigration and automation. So now the question is will Trump throw the fantastic Laura Loomer and friends under the bus or Vivek, Elon and the Indians. Elon and the bois are responding to people who say: "They took our jobs" by saying it's a skill issue and that the US always needed immigrants to achieve great things like Wehrner von Braun. 
I never understood why the Democrats didn't exploit this rift prior to the election because it was already boiling at the RNC.
The Democrats can't exploit it because they're hopelessly boxed in by their previous immigration policy positions. It's vulnerable from the populist right.
From there you can call out the very thin coat of "America first" slapped on policies that really look like the business interests of very particular Americans first.
Interesting isn't it how the list of positions that Nintex posted rather than being world-beater PhDs instead looks like the typical recruiting class from the engineering program at a flagship state university. Makes you think.
Tech MAGA about to get rugpulled
12-27-2024, 01:08 PM
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It all depends on what Trump is going to do now, but he'll love it when they compete for his attention so he'll probably just keep dancing and ignoring it or he'll throw fuel onto fire to see who has the biggest clout.
Wouldn't surprise me if he invites Loomer for his New Years Eve party just to see how Musk responds and then gets them to take a picture with a big smile and a thumbs up.
Not sure about Vivek, he's flying too close to the sun and Trump would have no problem cutting him loose.
In the end though, his position would likely be similar to what most 'neutral' in this fight are saying. The tech bros should stay in their lane and not interfere with immigration policy and DOGE should focus on government waste.
The Canada thing is also gaining traction, O'Leary wants to visit Trump to get the ball the rolling.
musk is an idiot.
If he wasn't the richest person on earth, he might face some ramifications.
The companies he's helming are not gonna stop doing business on a whim. So at this point it's just some idiot with a new toy.
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Elon Musk is like all of Silicon Valley. They're smart but not really that much smarter or better than the rest of us, they just have access to a lot of resources and cheap credit and are more willing to take bigger risks.
Apart from that the biggest difference is that the risk of the start-up owner, should they fail, is low. Investors that put up the money realize that only 1 in 10 or even 1 in 20 of the startups will be a success, so they won't try to get their money back(Europe) or kill you(Russia/China) if it doesn't work out.
I could've easily scaled my business but in the Netherlands there is just no bank or investor that's going to put up the first $100 million or even $50 million for a 10% - 25% share without nailing you to the cross if it doesn't work out. Instead they give you $30k and demand a controlling stake in the company in exchange.
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(12-26-2024, 12:07 PM)Nintex wrote: I never understood why the Democrats didn't exploit this rift prior to the election because it was already boiling at the RNC. How would they exploit it? Especially when they considered Elon the bigger threat and he's closer to their position.
(12-27-2024, 01:34 PM)Nintex wrote: Elon Musk is like all of Silicon Valley. They're smart but not really that much smarter or better than the rest of us, they just have access to a lot of resources and cheap credit and are more willing to take bigger risks. I mean, no, while this is true for the bulk of the workers there, it's really not true for the "founder" class. To which I will even include Elon. Nor is it that they're smarter, it's that they're more imaginative about certain fields. You think they take bigger risks because of that, when they don't. In fact, even from your own explanation they aren't taking any risks at all.
And when we talk about Silicon Valley I would also include things like Microsoft and Amazon in this not solely companies purely based there.
Where Silicon Valley thrives in a way that looks comparatively magical to everyone else is because everywhere else despises entrepreneurs for rocking the boat. The Valley's culture prized this until it became established and has started to turn in the same direction. The older fortunes, the Oracles, but even people like Elon, didn't get "cheap credit" and "access to lots of resources" versus identifying gaps to be filled before they became obvious. Of course, this would increasingly limit as the tech economy built out. You can only found Google once.
One of the reasons Elon was feted for so long is that he hadn't had any visible failures. People didn't know PayPal wasn't his, they let SpaceX convince them he was creating Tesla too. Most of the most famous techbros are people who only did one thing, Elon kept doing them which was different. But the other PayPal Mafia? The people behind all other kinds of giants? Once they left their original company they typically didn't start up new ones and new ones after that, they turned into the investor class. At the other end you had guys like Zuck and Bezos who kept to their original company for decades, something also unique in the Valley, they didn't cash out!
Elon's also unique in another regard, his riches date back to the dotcom era. That's what allowed him to get into Tesla which is what has inflated his wealth beyond comparison. But Elon's old Valley money, not even a post-Facebook Valley wealth guy. Elon's brilliance at PayPal was that he sold somebody else's company from minor investment, the original X.com was not even Elon's first startup, he had already sold one for like 2000% gains. Elon probably could have gotten even richer off PayPal if he hadn't tried to run the place, it was Thiel's product that won that battle. (I have to assume that Tesla's success is tied to this lesson, just compare how it operates to how he's tried to run Twitter personally.)
The Valley culture and typical "process" dates back to the Fairchild Traitorous Eight, they all stayed in the Valley because that's where they had comparative advantage. If they had done the typical thing and rolled their money into Wall Street management they would have given that up. It's this very simple idea, invest in what you know, that birthed the Valley. Outside money would never know as much as the actual people in it. A lot of the "risks" that Valley people were taking that turned into successes, like Apple, weren't big risks from the comparative perspective of the Valley. They were from Wall Street's perspective. This never changed through to the PayPal Mafia and Facebook. The dotcom bust had burned typical investors so much that "second window" opened up until the Great Recession. The VC flood since then has been because where else are you supposed to put money? The problem was assuming a built out, established tech economy would operate like the endlessly growing one of the later 20th Century. Especially when so much talent and money is tied up in decades old industry giants. Is it any surprise that things like Uber and WeWork halt at their very first idea rather than endlessly generating new ones? That's how every other established industry works.
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Weird.
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(12-27-2024, 07:11 PM)Cauliflower Of Love wrote: ![[Image: S24wXTy.png]](https://i.imgur.com/S24wXTy.png)
Weird.
Elon heading into his Lowtax Era
12-28-2024, 07:34 PM
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Americans can't mown lawns like Abu can, let me tell ya
Also Natalia is great at sucking.. I mean cooking, she's the best cook, the very best from Moscow
And how can we forget the wonderful Ahmed, truely the best trash collector the world has ever seen
What about Xi Ling, isn't she great, she folds those towels so good, unbelievable, only a Chink can do that
Well I didn't have Donald Trump tosses the entire MAGA movement under the bus before inauguration day on my bingo card
Trump only cared about shit that enriched him personally during his first term. What made anyone think a second term was going to be any different?
(12-28-2024, 09:03 PM)Potato wrote: Trump only cared about shit that enriched him personally during his first term. What made anyone think a second term was going to be any different?
He got shot and that made a profound impression on him or something.
I'm just glad we get the same old Trump back. Business is gonna boom baby.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/dec/28/joe-biden-regrets-dropping-out-re-election wrote:Joe Biden regrets having pulled out of this year’s presidential race and believes he would have defeated Donald Trump in last month’s election – despite negative poll indications, White House sources have said.
The US president has reportedly also said he made a mistake in choosing Merrick Garland as attorney general – reflecting that Garland, a former US appeals court judge, was slow to prosecute Donald Trump for his role in the 6 January 2021 insurrection while presiding over a justice department that aggressively prosecuted Biden’s son Hunter.
With just more than three weeks of his single-term presidency remaining, Biden’s reported rueful reflections are revealed in a Washington Post profile that contains the clearest signs yet that he thinks he erred in withdrawing his candidacy in July after a woeful debate performance against his rival for the White House, Trump, the previous month.
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But according to the Post, Biden had to be persuaded by his chief of staff, Ron Klain, to choose Garland – at the time best known as Barack Obama’s failed choice to succeed the conservative justice Antonin Scalia on the US supreme court before his nomination was derailed by a Republican-led Senate.
Biden’s political allies had pressed the case for Doug Jones, then a Democratic senator for Alabama, arguing that he would be better equipped to navigate Washington’s bitterly partisan atmosphere. Klain, instead, argued that Garland, reputed for fairness, would send a more reassuring message of justice department independence after Trump.
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Biden now believes he should have chosen someone else, the Post reported, a view consistent with many Democrats, who believe Garland was too slow to investigate and eventually prosecute Trump for January 6 and related activities to reverse his defeat.
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Biden could've used the full leverage of his '10% for the big guy' schemes, Hunters influence in Ukraine, the Unions and ties to China and he would've likely won the election bribing the right folks. Like Trump said, he's a crook and decided to play it straight and that never works. He also outsourced the lawsuits/political hit jobs against Trump to a bunch of incompetent fools.
Kamala just had celebrity grifters on her side that couldn't get anyone to Pokemon-go-to-the-polls. She really had no leverage anywhere or with anyone except Dougie.
Trump really couldn't believe his luck she was the opponent.
So anyone that had any stake in this election, be it Zelensky of Bezos simply got pulled in by Trump.
If Trump was going to win either way yeah Biden should’ve stayed in. Would have been so much good content.
12-29-2024, 01:37 AM
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(12-29-2024, 12:41 AM)TylenolJones wrote: If Trump was going to win either way yeah Biden should’ve stayed in. Would have been so much good content.
I'm glad we speedran past two bad candidates in the hopes of better ones later
imagine next time trump can't run again, and we had kamala running for the first time, now guaranteed to win with trump gone
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(12-28-2024, 10:10 PM)benji wrote: The US president has reportedly also said he made a mistake in choosing Merrick Garland as attorney general – reflecting that Garland, a former US appeals court judge, was slow to prosecute Donald Trump for his role in the 6 January 2021 insurrection while presiding over a justice department that aggressively prosecuted Biden’s son Hunter. So an admission he was persecuting Trump?
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Well written social media guy. Obviously didn't come from Trump's hand that tweet.
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