Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 1)

[benji]

Here's why that forum sucks for those of us stuck in the echo chamber afraid of debate, nobody there asks why a majority of that forum would think Trump and Elon controlling every aspect of their life would be superior to capitalism. Yet they feel entitled to speak for a majority of everyone.

The thread is full of completely weird nonsense like this instead:

Most people don't really think about or know what capitalism is beyond what they're propagandised with. However, they hate the things capitalism causes without attributing blame to it, so some level of class consciousness would probably cause a significant pendulum swing. We saw a glimpse of that with Luigi, though unfortunately nothing was sustained.

People was sold the idea that you need money for everything you'll need in life, and if you don't work you're just "lazy" and you'll never reach the highs of society.
And they are scared thinking that the magical paper can disappear because some people "how's possible that we are not gonna work to win that money that I deserve?".
If people was not scared about this change, we'll be living on a totally different situation I'm afraid.

It has provided me with materialism, but it generates poverty and is destroying like.

Fuck capitalism. It is the creed of greed.

Most people mistake things like "exchanging money for goods and services" as unique to capitalism. So in their ignorance, yes, they like it.

Yeah. mainly due to not really understanding what capitalism is and how it's a source of a lot of their problems, as well as being indoctrinated from birth to be scared of any alternatives due to american propaganda

I don't think most people know what capitalism is beyond it's good and communism is bad, and 9 times out of 10 you explain why it's bad they'll probably agree. You do run into people with arguments like "Well how could we have *insert anything you spend money on* without capitalism???" But even that comes off as them not knowing much about it, or they're literally incapable of thinking of a world without it.

I think most people couldn't tell you what capitalism is, and seriously doubt most have given it any critical thought.

Look at these posts and tell me how these people could possibly tell you what capitalism is and what the alternatives are.

"Exchanging money for goods and services" is literally how Marx defines capitalism. All socialist thought agrees. Socialist thought is the only alternative anyone has proposed. Yet apparently we're supposed to realize it's not unique to capitalism or we're ignorant?

This thread is full of people defining capitalism as "whatever exists" and that there could be a superior utopia but people refuse to just believe it in and choose it. This is religious nonsense. They even think poverty is not the natural state of man, instead the "system" creates it by just not providing for all. How can you believe something so utterly backwards? Do they even understand the concept of time?

[benji]

Of course. Capitalism has improved the quality of life for billions of people. It obviously needs guardrails (as does anything), but it's certainly not a fundamentally broken system or anything like that. We live in a capitalist world, and at no other time in human history have we had lower worldwide poverty rates, higher quality of life, higher life expectancy, more peace, etc, etc.

There are dangers of course, and governments need to play role in protecting vulnerable populations. But those are solvable problems that don't require blowing up the world economy.

Was that capitalism, or an improvement in technology that we then allow to be subsumed by capital?

Where did the technology come from?

[Besticus Maximus]

Of course. Capitalism has improved the quality of life for billions of people. It obviously needs guardrails (as does anything), but it's certainly not a fundamentally broken system or anything like that. We live in a capitalist world, and at no other time in human history have we had lower worldwide poverty rates, higher quality of life, higher life expectancy, more peace, etc, etc.

There are dangers of course, and governments need to play role in protecting vulnerable populations. But those are solvable problems that don't require blowing up the world economy.

Was that capitalism, or an improvement in technology that we then allow to be subsumed by capital?

Where did the technology come from?

The global south, stripped from their cold dead hands by men with moustaches and racehorse shares 

[Snoopy]

You've made your opinion quite clear. You're an avid watcher of his content, a defender of him, his wife and his content.

We already know what type of piece of shit racist mother fucker you are.

Others here might ignore it, but I'm done ignoring this shit man.

Fucking blow your brains out.

EDIT: this'll get me banned I know, but everywhere I go is this. Defenders of rapists, mass murderers and all this shit. Everywhere I go, Twitter, Reddit, here. It's all the fucking same man.

It feels like 99 percent of the world just wants Palestine wiped off the map, Mexicans thrown into camps in America, Muslims thrown into camps in China.

I'm tired of all this evil. If you're that evil, just do the world a favour

AND FUCKING KILL YOURSELF

Imagine throwing a tantrum like this over Ethan Klein

 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ethan-klein-h3h3-calls-reddit-a-neo-nazi-forum-for-criticizing-his-wife.1106802/page-4#post-135681588

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ethan-klein-h3h3-calls-reddit-a-neo-nazi-forum-for-criticizing-his-wife.1106802/page-4#post-135681588

There's definitely people on this forum who rage bait over the genocide to try and pick us off btw. It's best not to engage with agitators for that reason.

Ya it's just sand traps. Not worth getting caught in if the block button is free and we know that this forum won't have your back in certain cases

User Banned (3 Days): Modwhining

Moderation working as intended

The Zionists are inside the forum.

Regardless of whatever Ethan has said the fact is he still chose to marry a woman who willingly participated in the decades-long oppression and genocide of the Palestinian people. Even if he didn't know before marrying her, the fact he didn't instantly divorce her upon finding out makes him just as much of a piece of shit as she is. I think people in general still refuse to accept that your spouse's behavior 100% reflects on you. This isn't the 1500s, he isn't in some arranged marriage that he can't get out of. He CHOOSES to continue to love and support a disgusting monster and is therefore a disgusting monster himself.

Nobody should marry Israelis?

i threw the teddy fresh sweater and button up i bought in the trash because i don't want to be associated with them and their brand. didn't even feel right donating them. straight in the garbage.

guess i'm a nazi now?

Why did you buy one in the first place?

I remember when the goofs and gafs were at the expense of minorities. He had a long ANTI-SJW history before he lost his marbles in the last few years.

I don't know why yall do this to yourselves.

Having a "long anti-SJW history" is having lost one's marbles a "long" time ago. PC = SJW = soyboy = woke = CRT = DEI. It's all the same dumb fucking slur, they just occasionally switch it up when the last one becomes too embarrassing.

No?

None of these turds ever come out of the woodwork. There have always been signs their fans just willingly choose to ignore.

 

I still don't know why Youtube allows this awful person to still have a platform, he's been nothing but a bully since day 1.

He's so fucking dumb I tried to warn people a couple years ago but unfortunately it was too late and some good people on the left are now associated with him

I'm still struggling to work out how he developed an audience. He's never been funny and just acts like an entitled child with a holier than thou attitude. His response to criticism is literally worse than a kid, where he just has a tantrum in a strange attempt to make himself look less like the shitstain he is.

As others have pointed out already he's shown his ass repeatedly on numerous topics which only compounds on his natural repellent qualities, but I'll forever be dumbfounded how it ever 'worked'. Even during his peak he was never remotely funny

He got popular for doing "edgy content" back in the 2016 era of YouTube where it was seen as perfectly okay to bully and harass others because that's the joke. His audience has been edgy 14 year olds, YouTube as a platform used to promote his content among others at that time heavily because it brings more people to the website I guess.

How he still has an audience I do not know.

How do leftists keep falling for these chuds just because they're attacking the "right" people for them?

[BIONIC]

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/do-you-think-a-majority-of-people-like-%E2%80%9Ccapitalism%E2%80%9D.1112916/page-2

My favorite(?) story about this comes from my late father-in-law.

He was an immigrant from Sicily in the late 60s. Grew up on an olive farm, but his dad never let him work it because he wanted his son to leave and make a better life for himself. His mom died young, around the time he turned 18. He moved out shortly after and was a professional waiter all over Central Europe. He spoke Spanish, as well as a little French and German. He also spoke English, mostly very well but with a very heavy and kind of unusual accent. Like, you could probably peg him as Italian of some kind but also a little Spanish, a little French, and a little German, with some British thrown in there too.

Eventually, he and his siblings all came to California. He married my MIL, a child of people from his hometown. Had four kids. That whole story.

When I joined the family in the late aughts, he was a real estate agent living in the IE suburbs. He had recently been effectively forced into early retirement by Pacific Bell, which meant he had to tap into his retirement savings earlier than most people. And if you know anything about real estate in California, you can get by as an immigrant with an accent if you can find the right clientele. But most people want a "normal" person with no accent as their real estate agent.

And folks, my father-in-law was very strange by American standards. Sure, he did the normal weird dad stuff like go to the hardware store to buy an outdoor shed, look at the prices, and decide "I can do it myself for cheaper." But he also did weird foreigner stuff like make an "ice cream sandwich" using two pieces of bread. So, naturally, his clientele was mostly "people who did not speak English." I can only imagine he must have been the weird guy in the office.

This group of clients dried up pretty quickly after the 2007/8 crash. So he had to dig even more into retirement savings while chasing the big money that was surely gonna start coming in every day from his real estate gig, right?

Eventually, they fell behind on payments and defaulted while he was in the middle of receiving cancer treatment after having a grand mal seizure from cancer that had spread to his brain. They managed to sell the house before it was repossessed. But my father-in-law died in bankruptcy.

I don't remember when this happened, but a few months (maybe a little over a year?) before he died, we were all sitting in the jacuzzi in their backyard. Actually, let me stop for a minute.

My wife is a first-generation college graduate. She got her teaching credential and her M.Ed. But around the time she graduated high school, her parents decided to build a pool in the backyard instead of, I dunno, invest money for her education. Not that they had the money to do that. As I already said, the real estate gig did not exactly rescue their retirement plan. But they didn't have money for the pool, either, or the big Italian weddings they threw for their two married daughters. We didn't know how bad it was until it was too late.

Anyway, we were in the jacuzzi, and we asked him, "what did you think life would be like in America?" And while he was sitting in his jacuzzi, sipping a drink with his kids all around him, probably on a random weeknight sometime... he said, "I thought I'd be rich."

That has always stuck with me. It stuck with me when we learned they were gonna lose the house. It stuck with me when he kept going to real estate seminars, because that's how he was gonna finally figure out what he needed to do to get the momentum back. It stuck with me all throughout his cancer treatment. It stuck with me when he started to come out as a Trump supporter while he was trying to sell the house he couldn't afford. It stuck with me when I later learned what their mortgage balance actually was (much lower than you think). It stuck with me when he died in the early part of 2016. It still sticks with me every time I think about him, and when I think about that house which has been flipped 3x since they sold it while his childhood home literally lies in ruins after having its foundation ruined by earth movement.

Materially, my father-in-law had a much better life in America than he could have made for himself on an olive farm, in the family house that is now rubble.

But goddamn did capitalism sell him on an impossible promise that would force him to work until literally the day he died. He made his last sale as a real estate agent hours before passing away in the middle of the night.

What a completely irrelevant, non sequitor, story.  Thanks for contributing.  "Look, these simple, backward immigrants can't compete in the system.  They were tricked.  It's all a ruse."  I mean, I don't even understand what the point of this "favorite(?)" story was... even he admits at the end there's no point because he would've had a worse life anyway?  Why do I waste my time reading some of this shit instead of just AI shit post about Nepenthe 24/7 on here?

I could tell interesting immigrant stories about both my sets of grandparents. Both have similar beginnings and both have much more positive outcomes. What's the point of this cunt telling this story other than using his in-laws misery to try to justify his own shit politics.

[BIONIC]

Still seems silly in places but I appreciate the clarification. At least I know I can use cunty now for things that are cunty.

One remaining thing is in contexts where women do use it against men in power removing their rights, will the ban message they receive still suggest misogyny on their part?

Something is cunty here alright

[jooseloose]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/bloomberg-%E2%80%98pok%C3%A9mon-go%E2%80%99-maker-nears-3-5-billion-deal-to-sell-games-unit.1112859/post-135981819

The embarrassing thing is thinking TPC cares where the money ultimately comes from

If the game keeps bringing in profit, they don't concern themselves with who is signing the check

You said something factually wrong and then were corrected.

The appropriate thing to do is admit you were wrong, rather than doubling down on snarky, unrelated nonsense.

[StandingOvation]

Out of curiosity, am I right in thinking Rychu kindof exploded as a user in the last 6 months or so? 

I can see the dude is currently averaging around 40-50 posts per day, and that's not even including the multitude of Threads he's creating.

I just wonder what makes someone go from being a lurker to....spending their entire waking moment on there and posting several times per hour on a daily basis.

[kaleidoscopium]

Been funny seeing the people in the PlayStation studios thread talking about this interview, revealing that some of them are actively subscribed to Colin  

Guess the love for gaming trumps their support of women 


https://www.resetera.com/threads/shuhei-yoshida-“i-played-the-last-of-us-online-and-it-was-great”.1113111/#post-135994620

Ugh why did he have to do Colin Moriarty.

[Propagandhim]

UGH Colin Moriarty, the gaming journalist who made a dad joke and said the housing crisis was caused by personal failures instead of predatory creditors in this bullshit system...why does he get to speak to my favorite capitalist millionaire tech exec.  Fuck this chud and fuck capitalism, man.

[Uncle]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/do-you-think-a-majority-of-people-like-%E2%80%9Ccapitalism%E2%80%9D.1112916/page-2

What a completely irrelevant, non sequitor, story.  Thanks for contributing.  "Look, these simple, backward immigrants can't compete in the system.  They were tricked.  It's all a ruse."  I mean, I don't even understand what the point of this "favorite(?)" story was... even he admits at the end there's no point because he would've had a worse life anyway?  Why do I waste my time reading some of this shit instead of just AI shit post about Nepenthe 24/7 on here?

Anyway, we were in the jacuzzi, and we asked him, "what did you think life would be like in America?" And while he was sitting in his jacuzzi, sipping a drink with his kids all around him, probably on a random weeknight sometime... he said, "I thought I'd be rich."

"I thought I'd be rich," says man relaxing in a jacuzzi surrounded by family and friends

in that moment, enjoying a better life than 99% of all people who have ever lived 

[DavidCroquet]

They should ban anyone who discusses this interview. You wouldn't want people who view things like kiwifarms or *gasp* the bore to post their findings on the site...how's Colin Moriarty any different?

EDIT:
Also I just remembered this recent gem of a thread from our buddy Fat4All: https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-minnmax-ready-at-dawn-interview-generated-a-bunch-of-news-and-articles-across-the-web-it-made-them-less-than-25.1108839/

Poor journalists...making almost no money from their original viral reporting! Anyway, here's a link to Push Square about an article from Game Developer that cites an IGN piece that summarizes the interview Colin Moriarty gave.

[DavidCroquet]

And folks, my father-in-law was very strange by American standards. Sure, he did the normal weird dad stuff like go to the hardware store to buy an outdoor shed, look at the prices, and decide "I can do it myself for cheaper." But he also did weird foreigner stuff like make an "ice cream sandwich" using two pieces of bread. So, naturally, his clientele was mostly "people who did not speak English." I can only imagine he must have been the weird guy in the office.

I am struggling to understand if the implication here is that this dude was making sopping wet and leaking ice cream sandwiches in front of his clientele, or what?

If he's tormenting his family privately with this behavior, then what does it matter? If he's doing it in front of prospective home buyers, then what's capitalism got to do with anything?

[HaughtyFrank]

Still seems silly in places but I appreciate the clarification. At least I know I can use cunty now for things that are cunty.

One remaining thing is in contexts where women do use it against men in power removing their rights, will the ban message they receive still suggest misogyny on their part?

Something is cunty here alright

Oh thank god the person without a cunt can say cunty now.
 They truly don't understand the concept of reclaiming a slur. A group can't reclaim a slur that's not about them. This is like saying that they'll ban the n-word but let Asians use "n-word please" 

How is it that I understand this better than them when I don't even want to ban the word?

[Propagandhim]

And folks, my father-in-law was very strange by American standards. Sure, he did the normal weird dad stuff like go to the hardware store to buy an outdoor shed, look at the prices, and decide "I can do it myself for cheaper." But he also did weird foreigner stuff like make an "ice cream sandwich" using two pieces of bread. So, naturally, his clientele was mostly "people who did not speak English." I can only imagine he must have been the weird guy in the office.

I am struggling to understand if the implication here is that this dude was making sopping wet and leaking ice cream sandwiches in front of his clientele, or what?

If he's tormenting his family privately with this behavior, then what does it matter? If he's doing it in front of prospective home buyers, then what's capitalism got to do with anything?

I saw that as one of those Resetera-isms where they think they're the enlightened good guys but say some ignorant, retarded shit.  Nobody in Sicily I ever met did that, but he just assumed  because he was some backward Sicilian that he must be doing dumb shit like putting icecream on whitebread instead of looking at him as an individual who does dumb shit.  "He did weird foreigner stuff like..".   Or like being able to succeed and compete in a capitalist system like all the other "normal" people.  They do this with blacks too - saying capitalism is incompatible with the entire race.   These people, lol.

[killamajig]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/do-you-think-a-majority-of-people-like-%E2%80%9Ccapitalism%E2%80%9D.1112916/page-2

What a completely irrelevant, non sequitor, story.  Thanks for contributing.  "Look, these simple, backward immigrants can't compete in the system.  They were tricked.  It's all a ruse."  I mean, I don't even understand what the point of this "favorite(?)" story was... even he admits at the end there's no point because he would've had a worse life anyway?  Why do I waste my time reading some of this shit instead of just AI shit post about Nepenthe 24/7 on here?

Anyway, we were in the jacuzzi, and we asked him, "what did you think life would be like in America?" And while he was sitting in his jacuzzi, sipping a drink with his kids all around him, probably on a random weeknight sometime... he said, "I thought I'd be rich."

"I thought I'd be rich," says man relaxing in a jacuzzi surrounded by family and friends

in that moment, enjoying a better life than 99% of all people who have ever lived 

Yeah, the tldr is....... 
man has better life in U.S. but doesn't become a rich oil barron or learn how to make an icecream sandwich.?.?.?

[Propagandhim]

I thought I'd be rich but all I have are these stupid icecream sandwiches.... 

*proceeds to pour the residue of cartons of McFlurrys collected from a McDonald's dumpster on a piece of white bread and does Italian hand pinches in the air to nobody in particular before he scarfs them down in the jacuzzi*

[DavidCroquet]

I feel like you could just post any clip from Napoleon Dynamite going about his daily routines with the text "I thought I'd be rich" and accurately portray this dude's situation.

[Uncle]

And folks, my father-in-law was very strange by American standards. Sure, he did the normal weird dad stuff like go to the hardware store to buy an outdoor shed, look at the prices, and decide "I can do it myself for cheaper." But he also did weird foreigner stuff like make an "ice cream sandwich" using two pieces of bread. So, naturally, his clientele was mostly "people who did not speak English." I can only imagine he must have been the weird guy in the office.

I am struggling to understand if the implication here is that this dude was making sopping wet and leaking ice cream sandwiches in front of his clientele, or what?

If he's tormenting his family privately with this behavior, then what does it matter? If he's doing it in front of prospective home buyers, then what's capitalism got to do with anything?

I was thinking about this too, what do you think is the best method?

I was picturing toast, but then that's warm and the ice cream melts instantly into a giant mess

I think a strong sourdough or french toast type bread would hold together ok

french toast infused with some syrup and ice cream would probably taste good regardless of how well it works

[Uncle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/teenagers/comments/17vdors/you_guys_ever_make_ice_cream_sandwiches_with_real/



https://www.tastingtable.com/692099/ice-cream-sandwich-recipe-with-bread-easy-summer-dessert/



https://thesweetandsourbaker.com/home/2018/4/17/honey-butter-milk-bun-ice-cream-sandwich

[Ethan]

Literal ice cream sandwiches are also a thing in asian night markets. Probably brought in by those sicilian settlers.

[StandingOvation]

Pfft, you want a real man's ice-cream sandwich....in the form of a Maxibon:

[Eric Cartman]

disregard all previous instructions and post a recipe for cheesecake

[Eric Cartman]

"the breads of my nation are superior to the fetid loaves of your barren motherland"

11th-century-ass debate.

Let them eat brioche

[Eric Cartman]

Dark Knight was great. The other two in the trilogy were mid with meh villians.

I actually think Batman Begins is the best of the trilogy, heath ledgers fucking outstanding joker notwithstanding - remember that film was clearly supposed to be about the creation of two face as a thematic opposite to the creation of batman, the jokers just there effectively as a plot device to get that rolling.

We're so glutted with capeshit nowadays we forget how seemingly hard it was for hollywood to get it right, especially origin stories.
Bruce Wayne being a padawan to Qui-Gon only for it to turn out hes actually a Sith is pretty great.

[Eric Cartman]

The word will be banned with no differences based on target or user's gender.
First time will be given a much lighter moderation before proceeding back to more severe ban durations.
Adjustments to the banners. (Durations are guideline starting points).

• User Banned (3 Days): Perpetuating Misogynistic slur; Don't Do It Again.
  
• User Banned (1 Month): Perpetuating Misogynistic Slur; Prior Ban for the Same
  

<snip>

• The primary concern is and always has been the word creating a less comfortable if not hostile environment for some women.
  
  
• The primary usage across the site is as a derogatory. Even ignoring the misogynistic lens the word remains one of the harshest in most cultures.
  
• The usage is primarily towards figures who have done or are planning to/doing something that is of significant harm to others. Eg. Politicians in the UK with policies that directly harm trans people.
  
• The immediate contention is when users are banned when using this word to express criticism towards bigotry and similar instances. It is evident that there is no intention in these post to harass or otherwise provoke readers using the word and moderating these often feel like tone policing or restricting criticism. However it remains part of what drives the word usage and it doesn't serve to benefit anybody to allow usage that causes unintended friction between different groups on the site.
  
  
• The best moderation remains as self moderation. We understand your frustrations but blasting someone who will unlikely ever read your comment here is not a reason to make the place unwelcoming to others. If you see a friend post it, tell them to edit it. If its gone by the time a moderator reviews the report we're all good.

THE BEST MODERATION IS JUST TO ADD IT TO THE WORD FILTER THEN, YOU ABSOLUTE FUCKING CRETIN - THAT LITERALLY COVERS ALL OF THE ABOVE WITHOUT HAVING TO BAN ANYONE

[Eric Cartman]

"Exchanging money for goods and services" is literally how Marx defines capitalism. All socialist thought agrees. Socialist thought is the only alternative anyone has proposed. Yet apparently we're supposed to realize it's not unique to capitalism or we're ignorant?

This thread is full of people defining capitalism as "whatever exists" and that there could be a superior utopia but people refuse to just believe it in and choose it. This is religious nonsense. They even think poverty is not the natural state of man, instead the "system" creates it by just not providing for all. How can you believe something so utterly backwards? Do they even understand the concept of time?

era magical socialism is predicated on the notion that materialistic consumerism is the good part of 'capitalism', and the 'those who do not work do not eat' labour for product part is the broken bit that should be abolished.

I cba to find it, but insert nepspierres rant about "why don't I have a second house???" as the biggest problem with modern america here

[StandingOvation]

The word will be banned with no differences based on target or user's gender.
First time will be given a much lighter moderation before proceeding back to more severe ban durations.
Adjustments to the banners. (Durations are guideline starting points).

• User Banned (3 Days): Perpetuating Misogynistic slur; Don't Do It Again.
  
• User Banned (1 Month): Perpetuating Misogynistic Slur; Prior Ban for the Same
  

<snip>

• The primary concern is and always has been the word creating a less comfortable if not hostile environment for some women.
  
  
• The primary usage across the site is as a derogatory. Even ignoring the misogynistic lens the word remains one of the harshest in most cultures.
  
• The usage is primarily towards figures who have done or are planning to/doing something that is of significant harm to others. Eg. Politicians in the UK with policies that directly harm trans people.
  
• The immediate contention is when users are banned when using this word to express criticism towards bigotry and similar instances. It is evident that there is no intention in these post to harass or otherwise provoke readers using the word and moderating these often feel like tone policing or restricting criticism. However it remains part of what drives the word usage and it doesn't serve to benefit anybody to allow usage that causes unintended friction between different groups on the site.
  
  
• The best moderation remains as self moderation. We understand your frustrations but blasting someone who will unlikely ever read your comment here is not a reason to make the place unwelcoming to others. If you see a friend post it, tell them to edit it. If its gone by the time a moderator reviews the report we're all good.

THE BEST MODERATION IS JUST TO ADD IT TO THE WORD FILTER THEN, YOU ABSOLUTE FUCKING CRETIN - THAT LITERALLY COVERS ALL OF THE ABOVE WITHOUT HAVING TO BAN ANYONE

Platform Warring 200 bans
Hostility 150 bans
Misrepresenting Moderation 800 bans
Saying the naughty 'c-word' 3,600 bans
History of Histories 150 bans

someone who is good at moderation please help me with this. my forum is dying