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Trans people are not lieing.
When biological males claim that they are, and always have been, biological females? That's called lying.
I wasn't gonna keep back going to this topic. But this it the bigoted shit going on here.
e: to add to this biology is such a spectrum when it comes to sex, but you go do you.
This is factually incorrect.
(02-24-2025, 05:04 AM)Lonewulfeus wrote: (02-24-2025, 02:25 AM)Cauliflower Of Love wrote: (02-23-2025, 09:11 PM)HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth wrote: When biological males claim that they are, and always have been, biological females? That's called lying.
I wasn't gonna keep back going to this topic. But this it the bigoted shit going on here.
e: to add to this biology is such a spectrum when it comes to sex, but you go do you.
This is factually incorrect.
02-24-2025, 07:29 AM
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(02-24-2025, 02:25 AM)Cauliflower Of Love wrote: (02-23-2025, 09:11 PM)HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth wrote: (02-23-2025, 01:39 PM)Cauliflower Of Love wrote: Trans people are not lieing.
When biological males claim that they are, and always have been, biological females? That's called lying.
I wasn't gonna keep back going to this topic. But this it the bigoted shit going on here.
e: to add to this biology is such a spectrum when it comes to sex, but you go do you.
Sorry but it’s not.
You’re one or the other, man or woman, male or female.
Bending the knee to all this spectrum BS is just bollocks. If you want to identify with traits of the opposite sex then fine, you do you, identify how you want, live your life but don’t start forcing that onto everyone else saying things like “I’m a biological woman/female” because you aren’t and I will laugh at that and how stupid it is.
As I’ve said before. That’s not to say I don’t have sympathy for the non radicals I genuinely do, they deserve to live a life that’s fair without harassment etc but us placating them has got us to this place where we’re expected to believe all sorts of nonsense based on the “feels” of someone with a mental disorder.
It also really boils my piss that they throw around the word genocide all the time, no, just no! Stop that.
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(02-24-2025, 10:05 AM)Daffy Duck wrote: (02-24-2025, 02:25 AM)Cauliflower Of Love wrote: (02-23-2025, 09:11 PM)HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth wrote: When biological males claim that they are, and always have been, biological females? That's called lying.
I wasn't gonna keep back going to this topic. But this it the bigoted shit going on here.
e: to add to this biology is such a spectrum when it comes to sex, but you go do you.
Sorry but it’s not.
You’re one or the other, man or woman, male or female.
Bending the knee to all this spectrum BS is just bollocks. If you want to identify with traits of the opposite sex then fine, you do you, identify how you want, live your life but don’t start forcing that onto everyone else saying things like “I’m a biological woman/female” because you aren’t and I will laugh at that and how stupid it is.
As I’ve said before. That’s not to say I don’t have sympathy for the non radicals I genuinely do, they deserve to live a life that’s fair without harassment etc but us placating them has got us to this place where we’re expected to believe all sorts of nonsense based on the “feels” of someone with a mental disorder.
It also really boils my piss that they throw around the word genocide all the time, no, just no! Stop that.
some people are born with only one leg or no legs, so we should all be compelled to refer to legs as being on a spectrum, and hopefully update our outdated learning materials which claim humans "have two legs" as if that's a universal experience for everyone
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(02-24-2025, 11:26 AM)Uncle wrote: (02-24-2025, 10:05 AM)Daffy Duck wrote: (02-24-2025, 02:25 AM)Cauliflower Of Love wrote: I wasn't gonna keep back going to this topic. But this it the bigoted shit going on here.
e: to add to this biology is such a spectrum when it comes to sex, but you go do you.
Sorry but it’s not.
You’re one or the other, man or woman, male or female.
Bending the knee to all this spectrum BS is just bollocks. If you want to identify with traits of the opposite sex then fine, you do you, identify how you want, live your life but don’t start forcing that onto everyone else saying things like “I’m a biological woman/female” because you aren’t and I will laugh at that and how stupid it is.
As I’ve said before. That’s not to say I don’t have sympathy for the non radicals I genuinely do, they deserve to live a life that’s fair without harassment etc but us placating them has got us to this place where we’re expected to believe all sorts of nonsense based on the “feels” of someone with a mental disorder.
It also really boils my piss that they throw around the word genocide all the time, no, just no! Stop that.
some people are born with only one leg or no legs, so we should all be compelled to refer to legs as being on a spectrum, and hopefully update our outdated learning materials which claim humans "have two legs" as if that's a universal experience for everyone
Or if you want to be consistent with your little strawman, you would refuse to acknowledge a congenital amputee and would insist on telling them that ackshually they have two legs rather than play their little game.
Right?
02-24-2025, 12:22 PM
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(02-24-2025, 11:59 AM)benita wrote: (02-24-2025, 11:26 AM)Uncle wrote: (02-24-2025, 10:05 AM)Daffy Duck wrote: Sorry but it’s not.
You’re one or the other, man or woman, male or female.
Bending the knee to all this spectrum BS is just bollocks. If you want to identify with traits of the opposite sex then fine, you do you, identify how you want, live your life but don’t start forcing that onto everyone else saying things like “I’m a biological woman/female” because you aren’t and I will laugh at that and how stupid it is.
As I’ve said before. That’s not to say I don’t have sympathy for the non radicals I genuinely do, they deserve to live a life that’s fair without harassment etc but us placating them has got us to this place where we’re expected to believe all sorts of nonsense based on the “feels” of someone with a mental disorder.
It also really boils my piss that they throw around the word genocide all the time, no, just no! Stop that.
some people are born with only one leg or no legs, so we should all be compelled to refer to legs as being on a spectrum, and hopefully update our outdated learning materials which claim humans "have two legs" as if that's a universal experience for everyone
Or if you want to be consistent with your little strawman, you would refuse to acknowledge a congenital amputee and would insist on telling them that ackshually they have two legs rather than play their little game.
Right?
no, it's the exact opposite, your position is the one which is anti-factual - an amputee who claims they identify as having two legs and in fact a hormone they are taking has made them biologically have two legs now should be gently told that no, factually they do not have legs and there is no magic pill that will change that
likewise a person born male who claims they are now biologically female should be gently told that no, biologically they are not female and there is no magic pill that will change that
facts are important and exceptions prove the rule: a rare person being born without eyes doesn't mean eyes are on a spectrum, a rare person being born without ears doesn't mean ears are on a spectrum, and a rare person being born intersex doesn't mean sex is on a spectrum
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There was a time when to be trans was to be biologically male/female, while believing yourself to be female/male. This was "living as" the woman/man you felt yourself to be, which meant adhering to the (ultimately sexist) gender roles of women/men as defined by society and culture, taking opposite sex hormones, and perhaps undergoing surgery.
Not every trans people would choose to have "bottom surgery", because they understood that you cannot literally turn a penis/vagina into a vagina/penis. It was a simulacrum. Everyone, doctors and patients, knew this. It was not controversial.
I know many feel that believing yourself to be the opposite sex is a mental illness and as such this belief isn't something to be humoured. Personally I don't really care about the why, whether there is something "wrong" in the brain, whether males and female have different brains and it's possible for a human to develop the brain of one sex and the body of the opposite. Whatever. People can do want they want with their bodies, they're not hurting anyone else.
There was a time when a trans woman's biggest fear was coming out to her (potential) partner due to a fear of his reacting negatively, which could range anywhere from dismissal and ghosting, to acts of extreme violence. There was a very real fear of revealing your trans nature due to the homophobic belief that trans women were just gay men pretending to be women in order to trick straight men into gay sex.
That's why I was on-board with "trans women are women" which I saw as an attempt to correct that sort of mindset. It was also a message aimed at the "I tell it like it is" type of douchelords that would insist that "well actually, you are biologically a male", whether to a a trans woman's face or behind her back. If they're not hurting you then don't be a jerk, ok?
Unfortunately we no longer differentiate between males who see themselves as, and want to live as, women, and men for whom seeing themselves as a woman is a sexual fetish. It's entirely the fault of the latter that this is the case. They're the ones who came up with the "transgender" umbrella to provide cover for themselves at the expense of the much smaller group of the former.
We've gone from "trans women just want you to treat them the same you would any woman" to "actually trans women are biologically no different to cis women. One cannot be both a "trans woman", different from and more marginalized than "cis women" and thus deserving of greater accommodations than "cis women", and also be "biologically female", no different biologically from "cis women". It makes no sense. How is "trans" even a thing?
A truly progressive society would abandon the concept of gender and accept that the only thing that makes someone a woman/girl is simply being born female. Men and women, boys and girl, can live their lives however they like without have their maleness and femaleness question.
Unfortunately we currently live in a world where people who consider themselves progressive insist that sexist stereotypes are enforced as biological truths. When someone like Melody posts that he "is a lesbian" and "fucks girl", he's not sharing some objective truth, he's openly sharing his fetish with the world. Decent human beings don't insist on making the unwilling part of their sexual fetishes. Perverts do. It's why killamajig hasn't shared his 100 terabyte horrific anus collection.
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Despite the controversies and disagreements, we can all agree on one thing: Sonic Adventure 2 is a good video game.
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(02-24-2025, 12:07 AM)DavidCroquet wrote: I have a nascent headcanon that everyone here is the alt of an active era poster, and one it will all explode like the Inglourious Basterds bar standoff.
I mean....you probably aren't that far off tbh.
02-24-2025, 12:55 PM
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(02-24-2025, 12:31 PM)HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth wrote: There was a time when to be trans was to be biologically male/female, while believing yourself to be female/male. This was "living as" the woman/man you felt yourself to be, which meant adhering to the (ultimately sexist) gender roles of women/men as defined by society and culture, taking opposite sex hormones, and perhaps undergoing surgery.
that's part of what's wild about all this, for all the talk that trans and trans-aligned people typically have about discarding harmful stereotypes, the idea of "feeling/acting like a woman" is 100% falling deep into all of those stereotypes
these people are like I need to wear dresses and paint my nails and sit on the phone for hours doing girl talk and I love shopping for lingerie and want to get invited to girly sleepovers to talk about boys and omg our bodies are just a hole now, a willing and eager receptacle to be used by men lol uwu I'm just a smol bean
and they often wield even the less problematic of these symbols awkwardly and inappropriately, lacking all sense of context
(02-24-2025, 12:31 PM)HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth wrote: People can do want they want with their bodies, they're not hurting anyone else.
but what does it mean to "hurt someone else"
should people be allowed to abuse drugs and alcohol because it's their own body? maybe they're a nice drunk, maybe they don't actually scream or take a swing at friends and family, but there are still the psychological effects of watching someone you love deteriorate and become a completely different person, which can absolutely cause harm, not to mention gambling with the increased chances of other harms, like overdosing and leaving your family without a father
so should people be allowed to do whatever trans things they want because it's their own body, when kids might see that and get the idea that it's appropriate to chop their cocks off, that this doesn't really constitute permanent harm? what about how the stress of transition on a spouse leads to an increased chance of a broken home, leaving a child without a father or mother? or the harm it does to society in contributing to the ongoing mentality that we are post-truth, that only one's lived experience matters and we don't have to believe scientifically factual things anymore, what that does to the rest of...everything?
Anyone who thinks trans women are biologically women better be ready, willing and able to suck on some girl cock...and like it.
If you're not willing to suck on girl cock, you don't really have the strength in your convictions now, do you?
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There is finally a real discussion going on here and then it is about trans stuff again?
Just go back to shit posting…
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The trans thing is easy. If you want to be a different sex than the one you were born as, great. We, as a society, probably shouldn’t put up a bunch of unnecessary barriers for people who want to live that way. And in my opinion we don’t for the most part.
However, if you want to dye your hair 4 different colors, wear a sun dress, with doc martins, are covered in embarrassingly shitty tattoos, look like a toddler applied your garish makeup, are in desperate need of a shave and a haircut and generally just present yourself as an alien from another planet; it’s not phobic of me to want nothing to do with you.
Swallow it too, gurgle gurgle gurgle, lick your fingers.
How can you be a true ally that is not a chud otherwise?
(02-24-2025, 01:46 PM)nampad wrote: There is finally a real discussion going on here and then it is about trans stuff again?
Just go back to shit posting…
Look all I'm saying is if you grew up playing warhammer and making gundams, and you have watched more than two anime series in japanese audio with subs, and especially if Jill Valentine and Tifa are your true digital loves, then chances are you probably were a woman.
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02-24-2025, 02:01 PM
(02-24-2025, 01:48 PM)Nintex wrote: Swallow it too, gurgle gurgle gurgle, lick your fingers.
How can you be a true ally that is not a chud otherwise?
And since the cat's out of the bag, I have a 100 terabyte horrific anus collection of pics to get anyone in the mood.
IX > VII > XII > X > VIII > VI > XVI > XV > XIII
02-24-2025, 02:20 PM
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(02-24-2025, 02:11 PM)StandingOvation wrote: https://www.resetera.com/threads/more-in-common-uk-progressive-activists-overestimate-their-support-less-likely-to-campaign-with-people-they-disagree-with-alienating-allies.1117011/
A lock within 100 posts? Any takers?
That thread isn't locked and only has 8 posts?
Edit: I am a moron. That is Definitely getting locked once the arguing about not voting kicks off.
Thread on Hot Chicken restaurants being everywhere and Boondocks just posts a copy-and-paste from "political dictionary.com" WTF? At least add your own commentary.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/hot-chicken-i-knew-it-was-popular-but-damn-they-seem-to-be-everywhere.1116747/#post-136184580
(02-24-2025, 02:12 PM)Green Jupiter wrote: IX > VII > XII > X > VIII > VI > XVI > XV > XIII
incredible
Meanwhile, this is how it started
Quote:As always, F*** Daniel Greene (allegedly) and believe women
By the way, do you still get "believe women" benefit of the doubt if you identify as nonbinary?
Quote:This aligns perfectly with the US, and why so many on the left spent a year infighting and letting the GOP just walk into power. Tried to tell them, now I'm just too tired
You see what happens America? The wise man came down from on high to warn you but you wouldn’t listen. Now Musk is waving chainsaws around and rat haired Canadians are coming to ravage your men folk
(02-24-2025, 02:12 PM)Green Jupiter wrote: IX > VII > XII > X > VIII > VI > XVI > XV > XIII
X slander smh, imagine not having it top 3
(02-24-2025, 02:12 PM)Green Jupiter wrote: IX > VII > XII > X > VIII > VI > XVI > XV > XIII
It's fair to be clear about the rankings, to understand where everything sits underneath the magnum opus that is FFX-2.
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