Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 1)

[benji]

Except that is what Era and the vast majority of anti-AI jihadists want and what we're disputing. Then you come in and dispute us disputing that, what are we supposed to think? Especially when you refuse to ever say what your position actually is, just endlessly taking issue that anyone is taking issue with Era being absurd, same as always.

BUT I DONT

I need to agree with either ERA or Uncle and you 100%?

Oh, hey, Benji just told me that I’m like anti AI Jihadist…

Okay, so we're back to the problem being simply that you can't read without inserting what you assume must be what other people are saying rather than reading the actual words and entire sentences.

This is the entire cycle every single time:
Era: "Technology is evil and should be destroyed so we can return to paradise."
Us: "Well, that's stupid."
You: "You have to admit they have a really good point.  "
Us: "No, they don't."
You: "WHY ARE YOU SAYING I AGREE WITH THEM, YOU GUYS ARE JUST FANBOYS"

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Except that is what Era and the vast majority of anti-AI jihadists want and what we're disputing. Then you come in and dispute us disputing that, what are we supposed to think? Especially when you refuse to ever say what your position actually is, just endlessly taking issue that anyone is taking issue with Era being absurd, same as always.

BUT I DONT

I need to agree with either ERA or Uncle and you 100%?

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Oh, hey, Benji just told me that I’m like anti AI Jihadist…

Okay, so we're back to the problem being simply that you can't read without inserting what you assume must be what other people are saying rather than reading the actual words and entire sentences.

This is the entire cycle every single time:
Era: "Technology is evil and should be destroyed so we can return to paradise."
Us: "Well, that's stupid."
You: "You have to admit they have a really good point.  "
Us: "No, they don't."
You: "WHY ARE YOU SAYING I AGREE WITH THEM, YOU GUYS ARE JUST FANBOYS"

 

Jesus, I will concede you had a point in the pre edited comment. About me inserting ideas and getting stuff out of context…

And then you prove me right.  

Don’t gaslight yourself in believing that you don’t have an inner JeffMarvel inside you, Benji.

[benji]

I'm confident that not a single person will agree that's not what you do anytime anyone here takes issue with their AI stance.

You always try to claim otherwise by talking about executives or AI not producing miracles as if anyone has even remotely said anything in that regard rather than attacking the actual luddite demands that's been expressed over there. And that's only after people have responded to your snarky bait where you act like we're the insane ones for questioning their luddite views.

And you still haven't expressed your supposed enlightened opinion only continued to take issue with people taking issue with Era's or people who are pointing out that you only do this while flinging insults at anyone you don't read properly.

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I'm confident that not a single person will agree that's not what you do anytime anyone here takes issue with their AI stance.

Doesn’t mean they agree with your stance either.  

I can admit I can be annoying and jump from one line of thought to another. But I hate when you guys try to dismiss any point I make with “I don’t understand”  when you clearly do.

“But you are factually incorrect so it doesn’t matter”

[benji]

See, you aren't even engaging with anything I'm saying at all, just trying to score meaningless points in some imaginary fight you've constructed. That's why I've started to lump you in with the other trolls like Cauli and Nintex rather than someone who is actually capable of having a discussion.

You continue to insist you don't agree with Era yet refuse to ever elucidate your own opinion while endlessly complaining when anyone does disagree with them. If you don't agree with them then what the fuck are you taking issue with exactly?

[Boredfrom]

You always try to claim otherwise by talking about executives or AI not producing miracles as if anyone has even remotely said anything in that regard rather than attacking the actual luddite demands  that's been expressed over there.

 

I remember attacking NepNep insane anti Ai stans or at least agreeing with Uncle about how benificial can be with coding and gaming, specially early on.

But hey, remember that time when Uncle tried to say that his AI dragon was as better than NepNep one because… he said so.  


 

And that's only after people have responded to your snarky bait where you act like we're the insane ones for questioning their luddite views.

I feel you consider “Luddite view” when someone is worrying about losing his job to AI, not because the AI is better but because a shit ass tech bro wants to cut corners. And when people in social media call them out, we need to pretend they are hysterical anti tech.

[Potato]

Thank you for proving me point, uncle and potato.

I think these are more what you are angry with mate

Oh, hey, Benji just told me that I’m like anti AI Jihadist…

Are the windmills supposed to be me?  

(Also, not angry with you personally. I get your temperament )

Think of me as Sancho Panza...

[benji]

I feel you consider “Luddite view” when someone is worrying about losing his job to AI, not because the AI is better but because a shit ass tech bro wants to cut corners. And when people in social media call them out, we need to pretend they are hysterical anti tech.

Again, perfect example of you deciding what other people must be saying. Only the third time you've done it with me in like three hours.

[Potato]

Who are you arguing with?

What are you arguing about?

Please boredfrom, dude, answer these questions (not here, just to yourself) before you continue the argument.

Please.

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See, you aren't even engaging with anything I'm saying at all, just trying to score meaningless points in some imaginary fight you've constructed. That's why I've started to lump you in with the other trolls like Cauli and Nintex rather than someone who is actually capable of having a discussion.

You continue to insist you don't agree with Era yet refuse to ever elucidate your own opinion while endlessly complaining when anyone does disagree with them. If you don't agree with them then what the fuck are you taking issue with exactly?

I remember when I used to explain my opinion:

“I don’t understand you”  

And, no, this happened way before I just decided to be Snarky and be done with it.

I disagree with Cauli, but I decided to not dogpile on her because some people here can be genuine jerkass (just like Cauli were) without the self awareness.

[Daffy Duck]

Gladiatorial combat got defined

Some of the kids at my School had a betting ring where they during lunch break, they'd force unpopular (hi) kids at the back of the School that was like a evaluated square and force them to fight while charging for admission. There was also a group that set up a drug den in the boys bathroom where they'd sell drink, drugs and ciggerates at charged up prices to other kids and another group who set fire the girls bathroom (and also caused the School to loose £30,000 in a month in false fire alarms).

I did not like Secondary School.

[Boredfrom]

Who are you arguing with?

What are you arguing about?

Done, not exactly complicated.

[benji]

Gladiatorial combat got defined

There was also a group that set up a drug den in the boys bathroom where they'd sell drink, drugs and ciggerates at charged up prices to other kids

I like how this implies his problem is that they were marking up the MSRP.

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Should have undercut them and drove them out of business.  

[Boredfrom]

I feel you consider “Luddite view” when someone is worrying about losing his job to AI, not because the AI is better but because a shit ass tech bro wants to cut corners. And when people in social media call them out, we need to pretend they are hysterical anti tech.

Again, perfect example of you deciding what other people must be saying. Only the third time you've done it with me in like three hours.

At this point I feel like this:

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who is Alan and who is the wall guy in this conversation? I let everyone decide.

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

(Also, not angry with you personally. I get your temperament )

Don't back down! Don't let potato win! Kill him! Kill potato!

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[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

Gladiatorial combat got defined

Some of the kids at my School had a betting ring where they during lunch break, they'd force unpopular (hi) kids at the back of the School that was like a evaluated square and force them to fight while charging for admission. There was also a group that set up a drug den in the boys bathroom where they'd sell drink, drugs and ciggerates at charged up prices to other kids and another group who set fire the girls bathroom (and also caused the School to loose £30,000 in a month in false fire alarms).

I did not like Secondary School.

A very true story indeed.

[Polident]

Gladiatorial combat got defined

Some of the kids at my School had a betting ring where they during lunch break, they'd force unpopular (hi) kids at the back of the School that was like a evaluated square and force them to fight while charging for admission. There was also a group that set up a drug den in the boys bathroom where they'd sell drink, drugs and ciggerates at charged up prices to other kids and another group who set fire the girls bathroom (and also caused the School to loose £30,000 in a month in false fire alarms).

I did not like Secondary School.

Jealous. My school was so peaceful, the one time a brawl was about to happen between the wrestling and football guys, they became friends. Gross.

[Nintex]

Talking about AI...

[Boredfrom]

Gladiatorial combat got defined

Some of the kids at my School had a betting ring where they during lunch break, they'd force unpopular (hi) kids at the back of the School that was like a evaluated square and force them to fight while charging for admission. There was also a group that set up a drug den in the boys bathroom where they'd sell drink, drugs and ciggerates at charged up prices to other kids and another group who set fire the girls bathroom (and also caused the School to loose £30,000 in a month in false fire alarms).

I did not like Secondary School.

Isn’t that one of the boss fights in Bully video game? 

[benji]

At this point I feel like this:

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who is Alan and who is the wall guy in this conversation? I let everyone decide.

These were your responses to Uncle saying he doesn't care if something's AI as long as it's good, Potato saying he'd rather eat AI averageness than human made shit and me pointing out that you regularly take issue when other people take issue with Era's desire to ban AI and kill it which is why they think that's the position you're taking:

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You are not going to get this in your lifetime and you are actively fucking with people that make quality because clueless execs don’t care. Everyone smells it like techno bro BS, even if they have real since behind it. 

Strive for real balance and people will be way less aggressive against AI.

you literally said that I'm fucking with people somehow because I said I don't care what I get from AI as long as the quality is good
I have no idea what you mean by this

It's nowhere near as BS as "real balance" as a justification for outlawing technology.

Yes, I said that.   Thank you Benji.

Uncle and Benji are excellent AI evangelists and promoters of new technology.

 

Or you don’t want to accept the basic argument (AI is not ready for ‘quality’ and exec don’t care about quality, you are regurgitating Tech Bro talking points and not convincing people ) and says that “I don’t understand you”  

Like Benji still saying that I want AI banned.  

The AI fights here are exasperating to me because I DID TRY TO GET IN THE MIDDLE GROUND! But then got called Luddite because I dare to see it from an artist perspective.

Thank you for proving me point, uncle and potato.

BUT I DONT

I need to agree with either ERA or Uncle and you 100%?

Oh, hey, Benji just told me that I’m like anti AI Jihadist…

Jesus, I will concede you had a point in the pre edited comment. About me inserting ideas and getting stuff out of context…

And then you prove me right.  

Don’t gaslight yourself in believing that you don’t have an inner JeffMarvel inside you, Benji.

Doesn’t mean they agree with your stance either.  

I can admit I can be annoying and jump from one line of thought to another. But I hate when you guys try to dismiss any point I make with “I don’t understand”  when you clearly do.
“But you are factually incorrect so it doesn’t matter”

I feel you consider “Luddite view” when someone is worrying about losing his job to AI, not because the AI is better but because a shit ass tech bro wants to cut corners. And when people in social media call them out, we need to pretend they are hysterical anti tech.

And I didn't even notice the first time you claiming that me and Uncle must be "evangelists" for AI because we don't think it should be banned or condemned for irrational reasons. The exact same thing you've done to me for years because I don't think Elon Musk is inherently worse than other people who you seem to agree actually are worse. I must be an evangelical for Elon Musk and AI because I don't want either buried under the prison, it makes perfect sense since the "nuanced middle ground" only takes issue with people who point out those who are hysterical and insane about either topic. Something you also often attempt to do when I reject lunacy around Trump but even you can't bring yourself to accuse me of being pro-Trump like you do with Elon or AI, just snark about how I shouldn't blindly reject the insane and absurd things they're saying.

You can't even articulate what my position is on AI, you just know you're against me and then try to fill it in backwards using solely that concept as the guide to extracting what I must mean when I oppose anyone demanding the bans of harmless tools.

edit: I will make things easier by stating all of my positions on AI:
-No one has yet given an acceptable reason for banning it, nor regulating its use since I know some people do not consider that banning even though it is.
-Copyright does not work the way anyone against AI has imagined it even if we assume copyright is acceptable at all.
-More people should use it to write papers so they can be identified faster.

[Boredfrom]

I’m sorry, I don’t think you are a Elon evangelist anymore. 

I’m sorry that I think Uncle is an AI evangelist because he always goes to a hyper defensive view point, to even claim that somehow Nepenthe did a worse drawing of a dragon than something he did with AI, so my reaction was a genuine “dude, are you serious?”. I suppose that’s why I liked Benita post, because it was a decent take about AI.

Sorry that you think I’m a Troll when I have tried to see your point of view and being less confrontational and jerkass. AI is a touchy subject because I’m an Art and Humanities school dropout, so I get why creative people are wary of it but why more technological savvy people like Uncle are rightfully excited about it. I’m sorry that you think holding this position makes me an enabler of the anti technology jihadists ( jumping to conclusions just like me frfr). 

[benji]

I’m sorry that you think holding this position makes me an enabler of the anti technology jihadists ( jumping to conclusions just like me frfr). 

You just can't help yourself with putting words in people's mouths even when you're trying to apologize for it.

[imsotired]

Talking about AI...

Palestine?  That's old news, not even leftists on TikTok care any more.  It's just not the same without Genocide Joe.

[Boredfrom]

I’m sorry that you think holding this position makes me an enabler of the anti technology jihadists ( jumping to conclusions just like me frfr). 

You just can't help yourself with putting words in people's mouths even when you're trying to apologize for it.

 

Honestly, you should be the one apologizing.

[benji]

For what? If you're sitting at a table with nine Luddites, I see a table with ten Luddites.

[Besticus Maximus]

Here is my AI poem

Do the work by B.Maximus

Do the work! For I fear you shirk
Responsibility
In the name of
Civility

Go away white man! You must do the work
That you refuse to do, in lieu
of suppressing anybody
that don't look like you

[benji]

Only related because Shreds retweeted it:

Spoiler: the replies can't understand why anyone would be willing to associate with Harry Potter unless they were evil (click to show)(click to hide)

[imsotired]

Only related because Shreds retweeted it:

Spoiler: the replies can't understand why anyone would be willing to associate with Harry Potter unless they were evil (click to show)(click to hide)

They just need to keep pushing, eventually people will turn on the entire Harry Potter IP.  They definitely aren't alienating more people against trans folx by calling everyone who works on one of the worlds biggest multimedia franchise nazi transphobes.

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

AI this Elon Musk that.

Y'all can argue about unimportant things but I'm going to be over here respecting and loving wlw content. 

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

I will WATCH Harry Potter HBO and I will BUY the Bluray collectors edition once it's complete.