(08-29-2023, 10:51 PM)Boredfrom wrote: Quote:Looking at their current output this is pretty ironic.
Quote:It definitely is, isnt it. Even just looking at P3R they had the opportunity to attract a bigger audience with a P5 level game including a female protagonist and they just let it go, they only want to please the hardcore fans.
Saying this like P5 didn’t sell like hot cakes and has a strong female fan base.
They truly overestimate the need of a female avatar.
What they don't seem to realize is that if it was really so important to play a character that has the same gender, all those fears from publishers about whether a game with a female protagonist will sell would actually be correct. You can't have it both ways RE
(08-29-2023, 11:06 PM)benji wrote: (08-29-2023, 10:09 PM)Taco Bell Tower wrote: I remember astro supposedly had his friend's Steam account and somehow said friend had Cyberpunk 2077 on the download list. He kept saying he was gonna download it on his PC, try it for a bit and uninstall it. He later on reinstalls it to resume his gameplay  Oh, I think there may be some confusion. There's astro, the aggressive "non-binary" constantly hostile poster while I was talking about astoturfing who's a weird likely highly autistic Swede who has electrodes implanted in his spine because of a real disability. He used to post hilarious borderline non sequiturs in threads and nobody has ever really seemed to notice any of his posts.
Oh yeah, I do know that astroturfing that you're talking about. Just the astro reminded me of the non-binary lol
(08-29-2023, 11:58 PM)HaughtyFrank wrote: What they don't seem to realize is that if it was really so important to play a character that has the same gender, all those fears from publishers about whether a game with a female protagonist will sell would actually be correct. You can't have it both ways RE Expand this to race and sexual orientation and it wouldn't be in their interest to make anything for worldwide audiences but cishet white males. This probably was the case in casting games in the past, something ResetERA.com celebrates with Mario, but the demographics of games audiences wouldn't have changed at all because the biggest boom market of the recent eras has been Europe. If America wasn't so culturally dominant there'd be no Black and brown bodies in games period.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/starfield-review-embargo-ends-august-31-at-9am-pt-up-many-uk-outlets-did-not-receive-code-eurogamer-has-a-code-now-review-will-be-late.754153/page-129#post-111213886
Jason stating the FO4 leak isn't true
Quote:This is the common belief but not entirely true. The blacklist followed a series of articles published over the course of 2013, including:
The turbulent story of Doom's development: https://kotaku.com/five-years-and-nothing-to-show-how-doom-4-got-off-trac-468097062
Reporting on Arkane being saddled with Prey and then calling out Pete Hines for lying about it: https://kotaku.com/leaked-e-mails-suggest-bethesda-misled-gamers-about-pre-1149092622
and of course our report that Fallout 4 was real: https://kotaku.com/leaked-documents-reveal-that-fallout-4-is-real-set-in-1481322956
Nobody at Bethesda has explained exactly why we were blacklisted (given the whole "being blacklisted" thing), but it's safe to conclude that it was indeed because they didn't like the way I covered them in some form or another.
How can anyone be blacklisted when cancel culture doesn't exist?
https://www.resetera.com/threads/starfield-leaker-arrested-after-stealing-and-allegedly-trying-to-sell-copies-of-bethesdas-rpg-on-bail-facing-up-to-12-year-sentence-if-convicted.757651/page-6
Quote:This guy isn't just booked for stealing games, He had felony amounts of stolen property, misdemeanor amounts of drugs and stolen firearms. Felonies, plus drugs, plus guns add bonus time.
Quote:Free him
Quote:Following the thread all day and I find it funny that some reviewers are complaining that they didn't get a review copy yet or late. Make it's even more enjoyable that they won't be "first" to post their review when the embargo ends.
Sucks to be them that they didn't get a review copy. Oh gee, they have to play the game when all of us can play the game. Oh well, that's life. But whining about it on social medial just makes these reviewers makes them less appealing for me to read.
May sound a bit of a jackass but I find reviews from these professional reviewers pointless. If it gives the game 95, great. If they give it 50%, oh well. I prefer actual players opinions and experience playing the game as I find them much more valuable to making a decision on whether buy the game than these professional reviewers.
Honestly, I enjoyed more games that I read about from here and user reviews on steam, opencritic, or meta critic than from reviews from these professional reviewers.
Quote:Not getting the code in time financially hurts the reviewer. Not having a review day 1 means less views & revenue. Now they'll have to rush a review meaning more misinformation
Quote:Oh well. Life isn't fair.
Yea, think i'm slowing turning into Oscar the Grouch.
Maybe reviewers shouldn't have intentionally made themselves financially dependent on the good graces of the entities they purport to critique?
https://www.resetera.com/threads/any-podcast-recommendations-that-aren%E2%80%99t-just-white-guys-laughing-at-each-others-jokes.758938/
Quote:I’m really trying to find good, informative or entertaining podcasts for driving. But every time I try anything from articles. It’s always the same. Constant interruptions, inside jokes you needed to listen to 50 previous episodes to understand, 5-10 minutes of preamble and laughing at each other before they even remember to start talking about the topic.
Help me, PodcastEra!
(08-29-2023, 06:09 PM)Averon wrote: They want to have their cake and eat it too in regards to secularism and Islam. In fact, Lefties as a whole have this weird blind spot/double standard when it comes it Islam.
You can do a direct comparison with the relative silence around the Iran protests. Weird how a Islamic government forcing women to wear religious garb, arresting and killing those who won’t comply, is met with a “respect the culture”.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/aew-all-in-london-ot-the-biggest-event-in-wrestling-history.757885/page-28#post-111098563
Quote: User Banned (1 Month): Misogynistic Commentary; Referencing Revenge porn
Dan wrote:Let's hope sweat is the only bodily fluid that Saraya puts on that belt..
(08-30-2023, 01:04 AM)Polident wrote: Weird how a Islamic government forcing women to wear religious garb, arresting and killing those who won’t comply, is met with a “respect the culture”. A reminder that the US is currently underway in a genocidal movement against trans citizens refusing to force trans women to wear religious garb.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/starfield-review-embargo-ends-august-31-at-9am-pt-up-many-uk-outlets-did-not-receive-code-eurogamer-has-a-code-now-review-will-be-late.754153/page-89#post-111083122
Quote: User Banned (2 Weeks): Conspiracy Theorizing
Peter Ian Staker wrote:vixolus wrote:The Discourse is coming from the peanut gallery and not people actually playing the game for critical review, though. Yeah but Bethesda basically didn't give a review code to anyone that they don't 1000% trust so that's not saying much.
08-30-2023, 01:13 AM
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https://www.resetera.com/threads/can-we-talk-about-the-ign-review-for-mary-kate-and-ashley-sweet-16-licensed-to-drive-the-official-videogame-of-the-official-olsen-twins.757099/page-3#post-110961751
Quote: User Banned (3 Weeks): Dismissive Commentary; Prior Ban for Dismissive Commentary
LV-0504 wrote:As bad as that is, Greg Miller’s Dead Space 2 review is amazingly even worse.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/can-we-talk-about-the-ign-review-for-mary-kate-and-ashley-sweet-16-licensed-to-drive-the-official-videogame-of-the-official-olsen-twins.757099/page-5#post-110980405
Quote: User Banned (2 Weeks): Dismissive Commentary; History of Trolling
BrucCLea13k87 wrote:Yah this is bad but it was written 20 years ago in a totally different time. People grow. In the early 2000s it was about being edgy. Unless this behavior is being repeated, chill
https://www.resetera.com/threads/argentina-egypt-ethiopia-iran-the-u-a-e-and-saudi-arabia-to-join-brics.757012/page-13#post-111182200
Quote: User Banned (1 month): justifying imperialism
newtonlod wrote:eonden wrote:Minimizing US (or the entire West tbh) during World War 2 which consisted both in a ton of weapons that helped the USSR and tons of lifes as well by just spoutng the general Soviet lie that they were the only ones to win the war (without acually looking into their involvement before the invasion which consisted on happily supporting the nazis and joinly invading Poland and obtaining the Baltics through a treaty with nazi germany). And then becoming a major world power by literally becoming the colonizers of eastern europe which for a long time (and up to the dissolution of the ussr) accounted for most of the USSR economic power.
Its very fine to say that the collective west underplays the USSR war effort, but so does the USSR minimize the amount of support and effort the West did in the war (while eliminating the reasons of them not taking part in the war for years until the invasion).
The reality is that life in Western Europe has continue to improve since the fall of the USSR, and the life in most of central and eastern europe that was part of the eastern block improved even more once they got rid of their Russian colonizer.
Also, the life expectancy in USSR and China skyrocketed once they stopped being in major civil wars and invasions is not a shock, as it also happened in several countries around the world post ww2 (just in lesser levels as their deaths were smaller). Mao managed to ride that increase in life expectancy only to suffer major setbacks due to yhe stupidity of the great leap forward and the economic growth in China only started post Mao death and the creation of "socialism with Chinese characteristics" (which was a liberalization of the economy) under Deng. Everyone has made pacts with Nazi Germany. USSR weren't the only one and the one they did was a non-agression pact. And about being better, looking at some data. idk about that. Like this one, for example. We're having a big population decline in these regions too. Of course in this case we had Thatcher but idk about life improving either in some european countries. About the war, well, you saw the casualty numbers...
08-30-2023, 01:31 AM
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The Soviets-Nazis did not sign a non-aggression pact, they signed a pact to divide Eastern Europe between them. That's why they tried to hide it for so long.
newtonlod posted this earlier in the thread Hap Shaughnessy linked above:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/argentina-egypt-ethiopia-iran-the-u-a-e-and-saudi-arabia-to-join-brics.757012/page-13#post-111178993
TheHunter: "USA are the good guys" = Permanent Ban
newtonlod: "USA are the bad guys" = 1 month ban
B-dubz, the internets most useless, and confused Admin, is now banning people for either loving America or hating America
What material did the Soviets win the war with?
No ResetERA.com thread yet? No wonder trans people don't feel safe:
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/canada-citing-potential-dangers-warns-lgbtq-travelers-us-risks-2023-08-29/ wrote:Canada, citing the risk of potential dangers, is advising LGBTQ travelers planning trips to the United States to check how they might be affected by recently passed laws in some states, Ottawa said on Tuesday.
Anti-LGBTQ demonstrations in the United States last year rocketed 30-fold compared with 2017 and legal moves to restrict LGBTQ rights are on the rise.
Canada's travel advisory for the United States now includes a cautionary message for those who consider themselves two-spirit, lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, questioning or intersex - or 2SLGBTQI+ for short.
"Some states have enacted laws and policies that may affect 2SLGBTQI+ persons," the advisory says. "Check relevant state and local laws."
The advisory did not specify which states it was referring to.
When you click through the links for the 30-fold claim you eventually get to: https://countingcrowds.org/2023/05/15/the-hate-drags-on/
Weirdly, nobody in the media seems to be quoting this part of the "study" from a "researcher" that's interesting:
Quote:Measured by crowd size, however, the wave does show some signs of slowing. From June through December 2022, the average size of the crowd at the anti-LGBTQ+ events for which we had information about that feature was 164 people. So far in 2023, it’s been just 67 people.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2023-ot-1-kevins-no-good-very-bad-day.672442/page-354#post-111211999
Hodgy wrote:yup absolutely. how im supposed to question my own understanding on the world when stating what is going off in your head results in judgement rather than explanation. I dont have far right wing views, infact i feel like they are to the left of the vast majority of my peers. yet i feel like if i were to talk about some of my experiences and how that made me feel then i would be feathered and tarred. i very much feel like the feelings of some groups are held up as infallible yet when it comes to the feelings of other groups you are told that your feelings dont matter. it feels very closed minded, and honestly turns me away from people that voice similar views.
(08-30-2023, 01:47 AM)Hap Shaughnessy wrote: https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2023-ot-1-kevins-no-good-very-bad-day.672442/page-354#post-111211999
Hodgy wrote:yup absolutely. how im supposed to question my own understanding on the world when stating what is going off in your head results in judgement rather than explanation. I dont have far right wing views, infact i feel like they are to the left of the vast majority of my peers. yet i feel like if i were to talk about some of my experiences and how that made me feel then i would be feathered and tarred. i very much feel like the feelings of some groups are held up as infallible yet when it comes to the feelings of other groups you are told that your feelings dont matter. it feels very closed minded, and honestly turns me away from people that voice similar views. Oh god, they're becoming self aware.
Quick, don't let them read the Kant quote I put on The Bire homepage.
08-30-2023, 01:51 AM
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Quote:Or they can reflect like adults and admit when they fucked up vs. when Fat4All or someone gets too drunk and beliigerent. The point isn't that popular posters having users brigading for a ban appeal is all it takes but rather that mods and admins are not infallible. Mistakes happen. Acknowledge that instead of pretending you're above reproach.
I should put some Mill quotes on a page off the homepage too:
John Stuart Mill wrote:First: the opinion which it is attempted to suppress by authority may possibly be true. Those who desire to suppress it, of course deny its truth; but they are not infallible. They have no authority to decide the question for all mankind, and exclude every other person from the means of judging. To refuse a hearing to an opinion, because they are sure that it is false, is to assume that their certainty is the same thing as absolute certainty. All silencing of discussion is an assumption of infallibility. John Stuart Mill wrote:There is the greatest difference between presuming an opinion to be true, because, with every opportunity for contesting it, it has not been refuted, and assuming its truth for the purpose of not permitting its refutation. Complete liberty of contradicting and disproving our opinion, is the very condition which justifies us in assuming its truth for purposes of action; and on no other terms can a being with human faculties have any rational assurance of being right. John Stuart Mill wrote:The steady habit of correcting and completing his own opinion by collating it with those of others, so far from causing doubt and hesitation in carrying it into practice, is the only stable foundation for a just reliance on it: for, being cognisant of all that can, at least obviously, be said against him, and having taken up his position against all gainsayers—knowing that he has sought for objections and difficulties, instead of avoiding them, and has shut out no light which can be thrown upon the subject from any quarter—he has a right to think his judgment better than that of any person, or any multitude, who have not gone through a similar process. John Stuart Mill wrote:The beliefs which we have most warrant for, have no safeguard to rest on, but a standing invitation to the whole world to prove them unfounded. If the challenge is not accepted, or is accepted and the attempt fails, we are far enough from certainty still; but we have done the best that the existing state of human reason admits of; we have neglected nothing that could give the truth a chance of reaching us: if the lists are kept open, we may hope that if there be a better truth, it will be found when the human mind is capable of receiving it; and in the meantime we may rely on having attained such approach to truth, as is possible in our own day. This is the amount of certainty attainable by a fallible being, and this the sole way of attaining it. John Stuart Mill wrote:Strange it is, that men should admit the validity of the arguments for free discussion, but object to their being "pushed to an extreme;" not seeing that unless the reasons are good for an extreme case, they are not good for any case. Strange that they should imagine that they are not assuming infallibility, when they acknowledge that there should be free discussion on all subjects which can possibly be doubtful, but think that some particular principle or doctrine should be forbidden to be questioned because it is so certain, that is, because they are certain that it is certain. To call any proposition certain, while there is any one who would deny its certainty if permitted, but who is not permitted, is to assume that we ourselves, and those who agree with us, are the judges of certainty, and judges without hearing the other side. John Stuart Mill wrote:It is also often argued, and still oftener thought, that none but bad men would desire to weaken these salutary beliefs; and there can be nothing wrong, it is thought, in restraining bad men, and prohibiting what only such men would wish to practise. This mode of thinking makes the justification of restraints on discussion not a question of the truth of doctrines, but of their usefulness; and flatters itself by that means to escape the responsibility of claiming to be an infallible judge of opinions. But those who thus satisfy themselves, do not perceive that the assumption of infallibility is merely shifted from one point to another. The usefulness of an opinion is itself matter of opinion: as disputable, as open to discussion, and requiring discussion as much, as the opinion itself. There is the same need of an infallible judge of opinions to decide an opinion to be noxious, as to decide it to be false, unless the opinion condemned has full opportunity of defending itself. John Stuart Mill wrote:If we would know whether or not it is desirable that a proposition should be believed, is it possible to exclude the consideration of whether or not it is true? In the opinion, not of bad men, but of the best men, no belief which is contrary to truth can be really useful: and can you prevent such men from urging that plea, when they are charged with culpability for denying some doctrine which they are told is useful, but which they believe to be false? Those who are on the side of received opinions, never fail to take all possible advantage of this plea; you do not find them handling the question of utility as if it could be completely abstracted from that of truth: on the contrary, it is, above all, because their doctrine is “the truth,” that the knowledge or the belief of it is held to be so indispensable. There can be no fair discussion of the question of usefulness, when an argument so vital may be employed on one side, but not on the other. And in point of fact, when law or public feeling do not permit the truth of an opinion to be disputed, they are just as little tolerant of a denial of its usefulness. The utmost they allow is an extenuation of its absolute necessity, or of the positive guilt of rejecting it. John Stuart Mill wrote:Those in whose eyes this reticence on the part of heretics is no evil, should consider in the first place, that in consequence of it there is never any fair and thorough discussion of heretical opinions; and that such of them as could not stand such a discussion, though they may be prevented from spreading, do not disappear. But it is not the minds of heretics that are deteriorated most, by the ban placed on all inquiry which does not end in the orthodox conclusions. The greatest harm done is to those who are not heretics, and whose whole mental development is cramped, and their reason cowed, by the fear of heresy. Who can compute what the world loses in the multitude of promising intellects combined with timid characters, who dare not follow out any bold, vigorous, independent train of thought, lest it should land them in something which would admit of being considered irreligious or immoral? Among them we may occasionally see some man of deep conscientiousness, and subtle and refined understanding, who spends a life in sophisticating with an intellect which he cannot silence, and exhausts the resources of ingenuity in attempting to reconcile the promptings of his conscience and reason with orthodoxy, which yet he does not, perhaps, to the end succeed in doing. No one can be a great thinker who does not recognise, that as a thinker it is his first duty to follow his intellect to whatever conclusions it may lead. Truth gains more even by the errors of one who, with due study and preparation, thinks for himself, than by the true opinions of those who only hold them because they do not suffer themselves to think. Not that it is solely, or chiefly, to form great thinkers, that freedom of thinking is required. On the contrary, it is as much, and even more indispensable, to enable average human beings to attain the mental stature which they are capable of. There have been, and may again be, great individual thinkers, in a general atmosphere of mental slavery. But there never has been, nor ever will be, in that atmosphere, an intellectually active people. Where any people has made a temporary approach to such a character, it has been because the dread of heterodox speculation was for a time suspended. Where there is a tacit convention that principles are not to be disputed; where the discussion of the greatest questions which can occupy humanity is considered to be closed, we cannot hope to find that generally high scale of mental activity which has made some periods of history so remarkable. Never when controversy avoided the subjects which are large and important enough to kindle enthusiasm, was the mind of a people stirred up from its foundations, and the impulse given which raised even persons of the most ordinary intellect to something of the dignity of thinking beings. John Stuart Mill wrote:There is a class of persons (happily not quite so numerous as formerly) who think it enough if a person assents undoubtingly to what they think true, though he has no knowledge whatever of the grounds of the opinion, and could not make a tenable defence of it against the most superficial objections. Such persons, if they can once get their creed taught from authority, naturally think that no good, and some harm, comes of its being allowed to be questioned. Where their influence prevails, they make it nearly impossible for the received opinion to be rejected wisely and considerately, though it may still be rejected rashly and ignorantly; for to shut out discussion entirely is seldom possible, and when it once gets in, beliefs not grounded on conviction are apt to give way before the slightest semblance of an argument. Waiving, however, this possibility—assuming that the true opinion abides in the mind, but abides as a prejudice, a belief independent of, and proof against, argument—this is not the way in which truth ought to be held by a rational being. This is not knowing the truth. Truth, thus held, is but one superstition the more, accidentally clinging to the words which enunciate a truth.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/kids-in-iowa-now-need-a-permission-slip-to-go-by-a-nickname.758899/#post-111213736
hachikoma wrote:they said they would eradicate us. they're eradicating us.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/kids-in-iowa-now-need-a-permission-slip-to-go-by-a-nickname.758899/#post-111214600
hachikoma wrote:we're going to get blamed for this. idiots working each other up like "back in my day we didn't need permission slips for nicknames, look at this shit they're making us do now because of those gender terrorists, the world is going crazy we must RETVRN"
we're way too far down this road. i don't think there's any stopping what's coming at this point. it's fucking terrifying.
08-30-2023, 02:14 AM
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(08-30-2023, 12:23 AM)Taco Bell Tower wrote: https://www.resetera.com/threads/starfield-review-embargo-ends-august-31-at-9am-pt-up-many-uk-outlets-did-not-receive-code-eurogamer-has-a-code-now-review-will-be-late.754153/page-129#post-111213886
Jason stating the FO4 leak isn't true
Quote:This is the common belief but not entirely true. The blacklist followed a series of articles published over the course of 2013, including:
The turbulent story of Doom's development: https://kotaku.com/five-years-and-nothing-to-show-how-doom-4-got-off-trac-468097062
Reporting on Arkane being saddled with Prey and then calling out Pete Hines for lying about it: https://kotaku.com/leaked-e-mails-suggest-bethesda-misled-gamers-about-pre-1149092622
and of course our report that Fallout 4 was real: https://kotaku.com/leaked-documents-reveal-that-fallout-4-is-real-set-in-1481322956
Nobody at Bethesda has explained exactly why we were blacklisted (given the whole "being blacklisted" thing), but it's safe to conclude that it was indeed because they didn't like the way I covered them in some form or another.
This is so damn shady of Schreier. He knows that he can't really defend leaking Fallout 4 so he tries to obscure it by pretending that it's actually also because of those other articles.
08-30-2023, 02:16 AM
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lmao:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/argentina-egypt-ethiopia-iran-the-u-a-e-and-saudi-arabia-to-join-brics.757012/post-111186727 wrote:If you're trying to argue against historical revisionism, it's probably a good idea to avoid even worse historical revisionism.
Folks can and should argue about the concrete consequences of Molotov-Ribbentrop in making the path easier for Nazi to wage war across Europe and invade Poland, but it's well documented how much the Soviets tried to ally with the West for a decade before the pact as a way to protect themselves from a belicose, anti-communist Germany. The failure of the West to actually take that engagement further, while safeguarding themselves with their own pacts and praising Nazi oppresion over their communists, can't be removed from the equation here if you are trying to engage honestly with the history.
If you want the specific sequence of events and what lead to the pact, and a view of the "secret protocols" that is not as insanely negative as the one portrayed in the thread, this is a great blog post: https://www.theleftberlin.com/a-reply-on-the-molotov-ribbentrop-pact/ . It starts with a good denunciation of Putin so hopefully that will help palate-cleanse the read for the average liberal.
Feel free to discount it as biased due to being "leftwing" if you want, but keep in mind the history you've been told about the origins of the pact (which was strongly misrepresented in that thread) also comes from biased literature. The Soviets negotiated with the Nazis on economic agreements and other stuff for all five years after the Nazis took power, before that was no "belicose, anti-communist Germany" that could remotely justify carving up Eastern Europe. The poor Soviets forced into subdividing and conquering territory they had wanted back since they lost it forced into working with the "belicose, anti-communist" Nazi Germany by "The West" not joining the international proletariat revolution as the Soviets requested but instead only sending millions in aid to prop up the failed Soviet state.
edit: ahahaha that article literally repeats Soviet propaganda that's been long known to be false while using hilarious language:
Quote:The fact that both German and Soviet troops entered Poland has been used to equate Fascist Germany with the socialist Soviet Union. But, a socialist state cannot be equated with an aggressive imperialist state. Moreover, Soviet troops only entered what had been Polish territory on 17 September – 16 days after the German invasion of Poland
“Our troops entered Poland only after the Polish State had collapsed and actually had ceased to exist. The Soviet government could not but reckon with the exceptional situation created for our brothers in the Western Ukraine and Western Byelorussia, who had been abandoned to their fate as a result of the collapse of Poland.” (V. M. Molotov: Speech to the Supreme Soviet of the USSR, 31 October 1939, in: ‘Soviet Foreign Policy’; London; 1941)
The capitalist press agreed with Soviet contemporary Soviet sources that the Red Army was welcomed as liberators by the Ukrainian and Byelorussian population concerned. Molotov reported:
“The Red Army was greeted with sympathy by the Ukrainian and Byelorussian population, who welcomed our troops as liberators from the yoke of the gentry and from the yoke of the Polish landlords and capitalists.”
08-30-2023, 02:48 AM
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Quote:but keep in mind the history you've been told about the origins of the pact (which was strongly misrepresented in that thread) also comes from biased literature.
*Proceeds to post an article that quotes the completely unbiased Molotov*
ResetEra Thread Generator: "I'm a 40 year old male who just tried to eat an orange for the first time and ended up vomiting blood. So anyway I think I'm asexual trans."
08-30-2023, 03:42 AM
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ROFL - if there aren't propaganda agents on era, then kudos to CCP for playing so many fucking useful idiots like a fiddle. So much whataboutism and weak moderation response.
*CCP propaganda caught*
"Acctualllly socialism is good"
"But Xi's isn't socialist"
"Because capitalism won't let it!!!!"
Sir, this is a Wendy's
The poliera regulars at this point are mostly a few good posters that hate discord, dozens of slow people finally being disillusioned 3 years later, and a bunch of fucking trolls. There's like 350 people on the discord and while they rarely talk about era, they shat all over it in response to that banning. Very similar thoughts as is on here just a side topic instead of the entree which is delicious shit posting here.
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