(03-14-2025, 09:42 PM)StandingOvation wrote: https://www.resetera.com/threads/republican-spending-bill-passes-senate-by-62-38-10-dems-joined-r%E2%80%99s.1135161/page-5#post-137046804
[quote=Nepenthe]
Learned helplessness, automatic deference to the system, and propagandizing by a class of folks who fundamentally do not having the workers' interests at heart. You know, the usual.
Also Nep -
Something...Something..Building community..Something...And no we don't accept coupons ...Something...Something...Grassroots...No we can't reduce the price of your medication...Something...Something...This is a business not a charity sir....Absolute bums always trying to scam the system...
03-15-2025, 01:01 AM
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(03-14-2025, 09:31 PM)kaleidoscopium wrote: Looks like another Tesla terrorist was caught, chance they have a resetera account?
Should have charged him for committing a HATE crime in LOVEland.
(03-14-2025, 10:44 PM)StandingOvation wrote: https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-want-to-say-something-positive-but-just-cant-anymore.1135224/
Echos....of course wrote:I'm so damn scared about my friends in US and Canada, I'm scared of the constant looming threat and wars (and while it might sound silly, I'm worried I'll eventually lose contact with them via discord or here because of Trump's shit
if more teslas burn does that mean capitalism will end faster?
(03-14-2025, 09:42 PM)StandingOvation wrote: https://www.resetera.com/threads/republican-spending-bill-passes-senate-by-62-38-10-dems-joined-r%E2%80%99s.1135161/page-5#post-137046804
Nepenthe wrote:Learned helplessness, automatic deference to the system, and propagandizing by a class of folks who fundamentally do not having the workers' interests at heart. You know, the usual. I'm telling you guys, she's ancap and doesn't even know it. Arguing here that shutting down the federal government for the foreseeable future is pro-worker.
but aren't federal workers fighting to keep their jobs?
(03-15-2025, 01:12 AM)Gameboy Nostalgia wrote: if more teslas burn does that mean capitalism will end faster? Nah, all these yts are lone wolfing it instead of organizing. Sounds about white.
Why they bullying Schumer? He's a Palestinian.
(03-15-2025, 01:18 AM)Gameboy Nostalgia wrote: but aren't federal workers fighting to keep their jobs?  Oh no, the poor workers who choose to willingly work for the genocide factory.
Take a carrot, leave a carrot is happening in communities around you and you don't even know it:
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(03-15-2025, 01:41 AM)Gameboy Nostalgia wrote: Why they bullying Schumer? He's a Palestinian. 
he only ever tells jokes about his vagina
https://www.resetera.com/threads/republican-spending-bill-passes-senate-by-62-38-10-dems-joined-r’s.1135161/page-16#post-137056383
Quote:Well if you don't care about progress then there's no reason for you to enter a discussion on how to bring about progress, now is there? A bit silly, innit?
Now, if this really is just an expression of frustration and hopelessness, and you actually do want progress but don't know how, then you should understand the fundamental truth that most of the progress in the world was indeed not had by Democrats or superheroes, but by masses of people organizing, initiating and performing projects, defending themselves and their homelands, reacting to the social and material conditions that lay before them, and ultimately moving in the understanding that we as humans are unique in the ability to shape and reshape our cultures, and we can use this gift to make a better world.
This idea that the only way we can save ourselves is through the same political apparatuses responsible for generating our own oppression is absurd on its face, and indeed it is this level of learned helplessness, this belief that you can only vote and participate in these processes to enact change, that has killed any sense of the community and organization that underpinned those great men and women we read about. If you want freedom, you take it. You build it. You start alone or you find others that want the same thing. And then you keep working at it, you make programs, you help your community, and you show off the results, and you be prepared for when those oppressors and their sympathizers still married to the system either mock you for daring to try, or sic the State on you to kick down your sandcastle. And then you rebuild it again with new knowledge, and you do so in solidarity and optimism.
Nepenthe wrote:Frankly Era is not the place for meaningful discussion on these issues, both by design and because of the population that visits here, to the point that I don't really know why I waste time in such an environment typing out my knowledge and feelings. I am still prone to reactionary and useless habits myself, I suppose; everyone has room to grow. If nothing else sinks in, then take this with you:
You don't need the Democrats to feed someone. Just go down to a soup kitchen. Or be kind one day and buy a meal for the guy on the street. Or ask your neighbors if they want to have dinner with you. There you go. You've just made the world better. Doesn't matter that it was small.
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Why is she so obsessed with feeding people. Is Atlanta in the gobi fuckin desert or somethin
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innit
fuck off u aint british
(03-15-2025, 02:38 AM)DavidCroquet wrote: https://www.resetera.com/threads/republican-spending-bill-passes-senate-by-62-38-10-dems-joined-r’s.1135161/page-16#post-137056383
Nepenthe wrote:Well if you don't care about progress then there's no reason for you to enter a discussion on how to bring about progress, now is there? A bit silly, innit?
Now, if this really is just an expression of frustration and hopelessness, and you actually do want progress but don't know how, then you should understand the fundamental truth that most of the progress in the world was indeed not had by Democrats or superheroes, but by masses of people organizing, initiating and performing projects, defending themselves and their homelands, reacting to the social and material conditions that lay before them, and ultimately moving in the understanding that we as humans are unique in the ability to shape and reshape our cultures, and we can use this gift to make a better world.
This idea that the only way we can save ourselves is through the same political apparatuses responsible for generating our own oppression is absurd on its face, and indeed it is this level of learned helplessness, this belief that you can only vote and participate in these processes to enact change, that has killed any sense of the community and organization that underpinned those great men and women we read about. If you want freedom, you take it. You build it. You start alone or you find others that want the same thing. And then you keep working at it, you make programs, you help your community, and you show off the results, and you be prepared for when those oppressors and their sympathizers still married to the system either mock you for daring to try, or sic the State on you to kick down your sandcastle. And then you rebuild it again with new knowledge, and you do so in solidarity and optimism. See, ancap.
Quote:Nepenthe wrote:Frankly Era is not the place for meaningful discussion on these issues, both by design and because of the population that visits here, to the point that I don't really know why I waste time in such an environment typing out my knowledge and feelings. I like how nobody there questions why an admin of all people keeps saying this about the forum, never asks her to elaborate because they know she just means it's too white (which she knows because it doesn't agree with her on everything) or asks what places do exist for meaningful discussion.
Also, "knowledge"
03-15-2025, 02:54 AM
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https://www.resetera.com/threads/republican-spending-bill-passes-senate-by-62-38-10-dems-joined-r%E2%80%99s.1135161/page-16#post-137056500 wrote:I don't know a single democrat leaning voter who was happy about Chuck. I think a changing of the guard of any out of touch folks is super ripe.
Also you're going to have something like 20 to 100 thousand pissed off Democrat leaning voters returning to home states/moving to states where they could find a job with the federal employment meltdown happening in DC.
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03-15-2025, 03:00 AM
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You don't have to worship at the Church of Nancy Pelosi and her Democrats of latter day saints. You can just feed people. Seriously the next time someone in your community is addicted to drugs, feed him. Someone fell from a tree and needs emergency healthcare? Make them a sandwich. Ol' man Byron is having a property dispute with his neighbor again and he's about to discharge his weapon? Tomato soup them. I make the world a better place. I do shit. When was the last time your worthless ass fed someone? I mean really fed someone. I mean really give them that food. Never gave a slow child in remedial math a nice bowl of spaghetti, huh? Heh. You...make...me...sick.
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incelsiorlef wrote:Just do the work at the primary level
One of the few great things about the US system is you do have a say on who represents your party at the very base level, things work very differently in Canada for example, so you should cherish that one great thing.
Dedicate yourself, work within your community, then your district, then your state This is what the 17 pages of the thread are complaining about. That the Democrats aren't forcing a hardline stance on every member of the party.
03-15-2025, 03:07 AM
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(03-15-2025, 02:47 AM)Propagandhim wrote: Why is she so obsessed with feeding people. Is Atlanta in the gobi fuckin desert or somethin
it's late, I read that as the goblin fart desert and thought it was about an echoes post
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(03-15-2025, 03:07 AM)Uncle wrote: it's late, I read that as the goblin fart desert and thought it was about an echoes post That's a Zelda dungeon, not Pokemon.
(03-15-2025, 02:38 AM)DavidCroquet wrote: https://www.resetera.com/threads/republican-spending-bill-passes-senate-by-62-38-10-dems-joined-r’s.1135161/page-16#post-137056383
Quote:Well if you don't care about progress then there's no reason for you to enter a discussion on how to bring about progress, now is there? A bit silly, innit?
Now, if this really is just an expression of frustration and hopelessness, and you actually do want progress but don't know how, then you should understand the fundamental truth that most of the progress in the world was indeed not had by Democrats or superheroes, but by masses of people organizing, initiating and performing projects, defending themselves and their homelands, reacting to the social and material conditions that lay before them, and ultimately moving in the understanding that we as humans are unique in the ability to shape and reshape our cultures, and we can use this gift to make a better world.
This idea that the only way we can save ourselves is through the same political apparatuses responsible for generating our own oppression is absurd on its face, and indeed it is this level of learned helplessness, this belief that you can only vote and participate in these processes to enact change, that has killed any sense of the community and organization that underpinned those great men and women we read about. If you want freedom, you take it. You build it. You start alone or you find others that want the same thing. And then you keep working at it, you make programs, you help your community, and you show off the results, and you be prepared for when those oppressors and their sympathizers still married to the system either mock you for daring to try, or sic the State on you to kick down your sandcastle. And then you rebuild it again with new knowledge, and you do so in solidarity and optimism.
Nepenthe wrote:Frankly Era is not the place for meaningful discussion on these issues, both by design and because of the population that visits here, to the point that I don't really know why I waste time in such an environment typing out my knowledge and feelings. I am still prone to reactionary and useless habits myself, I suppose; everyone has room to grow. If nothing else sinks in, then take this with you:
You don't need the Democrats to feed someone. Just go down to a soup kitchen. Or be kind one day and buy a meal for the guy on the street. Or ask your neighbors if they want to have dinner with you. There you go. You've just made the world better. Doesn't matter that it was small.
![[Image: 63826426-802b-41d8-8136-351176da26fd_text.gif]](https://y.yarn.co/63826426-802b-41d8-8136-351176da26fd_text.gif)
03-15-2025, 03:23 AM
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[url=https://x.com/XorDev/status/1900731346885939236][/url]
John Popper's Paradox of Tolerance mention
(03-15-2025, 03:23 AM)Propagandhim wrote: [url=https://x.com/XorDev/status/1900731346885939236][/url]
John Popper's Paradox of Tolerance mention  His fellow Nazis are praising him for being a Nazi:
(03-15-2025, 01:54 AM)benji wrote: Take a carrot, leave a carrot is happening in communities around you and you don't even know it:
Why can't they just shit this out. It's hardly bigger than a turd
(03-14-2025, 09:31 PM)kaleidoscopium wrote: Looks like another Tesla terrorist was caught, chance they have a resetera account?
…likely?
03-15-2025, 08:11 AM
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(03-15-2025, 02:38 AM)DavidCroquet wrote: https://www.resetera.com/threads/republican-spending-bill-passes-senate-by-62-38-10-dems-joined-r’s.1135161/page-16#post-137056383
Quote:Well if you don't care about progress then there's no reason for you to enter a discussion on how to bring about progress, now is there? A bit silly, innit?
Now, if this really is just an expression of frustration and hopelessness, and you actually do want progress but don't know how, then you should understand the fundamental truth that most of the progress in the world was indeed not had by Democrats or superheroes, but by masses of people organizing, initiating and performing projects, defending themselves and their homelands, reacting to the social and material conditions that lay before them, and ultimately moving in the understanding that we as humans are unique in the ability to shape and reshape our cultures, and we can use this gift to make a better world.
This idea that the only way we can save ourselves is through the same political apparatuses responsible for generating our own oppression is absurd on its face, and indeed it is this level of learned helplessness, this belief that you can only vote and participate in these processes to enact change, that has killed any sense of the community and organization that underpinned those great men and women we read about. If you want freedom, you take it. You build it. You start alone or you find others that want the same thing. And then you keep working at it, you make programs, you help your community, and you show off the results, and you be prepared for when those oppressors and their sympathizers still married to the system either mock you for daring to try, or sic the State on you to kick down your sandcastle. And then you rebuild it again with new knowledge, and you do so in solidarity and optimism.
Nepenthe wrote:Frankly Era is not the place for meaningful discussion on these issues, both by design and because of the population that visits here, to the point that I don't really know why I waste time in such an environment typing out my knowledge and feelings. I am still prone to reactionary and useless habits myself, I suppose; everyone has room to grow. If nothing else sinks in, then take this with you:
You don't need the Democrats to feed someone. Just go down to a soup kitchen. Or be kind one day and buy a meal for the guy on the street. Or ask your neighbors if they want to have dinner with you. There you go. You've just made the world better. Doesn't matter that it was small.
![[Image: 63826426-802b-41d8-8136-351176da26fd_text.gif]](https://y.yarn.co/63826426-802b-41d8-8136-351176da26fd_text.gif)
Has Nep ever articulated a plan that has actual political meaning? Charity and local volunteering is nice and all, but what the fuck does it have to do federal politics? How does it get 41 Senators to vote against cloture?
Era is a terrible place to discuss these topics, but it's because none of the people posting in these threads even understands politics.
(03-15-2025, 01:01 AM)benji wrote: (03-14-2025, 10:44 PM)StandingOvation wrote: https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-want-to-say-something-positive-but-just-cant-anymore.1135224/
Echos....of course wrote:I'm so damn scared about my friends in US and Canada, I'm scared of the constant looming threat and wars (and while it might sound silly, I'm worried I'll eventually lose contact with them via discord or here because of Trump's shit  Damn. It's a shame there's literally no other apps or methods for communication.
(03-14-2025, 09:37 PM)Kevtones wrote: I have two teslas and my three year old has a little kid Tesla.
Generational nazi livin
Are we invited to the first pogrom?
03-15-2025, 10:35 AM
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(03-15-2025, 02:38 AM)DavidCroquet wrote: https://www.resetera.com/threads/republican-spending-bill-passes-senate-by-62-38-10-dems-joined-r’s.1135161/page-16#post-137056383
Quote:Well if you don't care about progress then there's no reason for you to enter a discussion on how to bring about progress, now is there? A bit silly, innit?
Now, if this really is just an expression of frustration and hopelessness, and you actually do want progress but don't know how, then you should understand the fundamental truth that most of the progress in the world was indeed not had by Democrats or superheroes, but by masses of people organizing, initiating and performing projects, defending themselves and their homelands, reacting to the social and material conditions that lay before them, and ultimately moving in the understanding that we as humans are unique in the ability to shape and reshape our cultures, and we can use this gift to make a better world.
This idea that the only way we can save ourselves is through the same political apparatuses responsible for generating our own oppression is absurd on its face, and indeed it is this level of learned helplessness, this belief that you can only vote and participate in these processes to enact change, that has killed any sense of the community and organization that underpinned those great men and women we read about. If you want freedom, you take it. You build it. You start alone or you find others that want the same thing. And then you keep working at it, you make programs, you help your community, and you show off the results, and you be prepared for when those oppressors and their sympathizers still married to the system either mock you for daring to try, or sic the State on you to kick down your sandcastle. And then you rebuild it again with new knowledge, and you do so in solidarity and optimism.
Nepenthe wrote:Frankly Era is not the place for meaningful discussion on these issues, both by design and because of the population that visits here, to the point that I don't really know why I waste time in such an environment typing out my knowledge and feelings. I am still prone to reactionary and useless habits myself, I suppose; everyone has room to grow. If nothing else sinks in, then take this with you:
You don't need the Democrats to feed someone. Just go down to a soup kitchen. Or be kind one day and buy a meal for the guy on the street. Or ask your neighbors if they want to have dinner with you. There you go. You've just made the world better. Doesn't matter that it was small.
![[Image: 63826426-802b-41d8-8136-351176da26fd_text.gif]](https://y.yarn.co/63826426-802b-41d8-8136-351176da26fd_text.gif)
You don't give someone like this a gun and immunity from prosecution.
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