Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 1)

[benji]

Thanks for mentioning BDS Movement in that thread Astrogamer

Setting Microsoft to 0 in the payment is an option, but wouldn't Microsoft still collect player metrics from people activating and playing those games?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/humble-bundle-xbox-game-studios-bundle.1185681/post-139751448

The cool thing about the Microsoft games on Humble Bundle is that you can slide Microsoft's cut all the way down to $0.

More money for other fascists I guess: https://www.404media.co/ziff-davis-dei-commitment-websites/

The staff not only don't know how old their members are, they have "no judgement" about people funding genocide:

It's hard to have a popular movement when the movement restricts access to popular things. Y'know what I mean.

There was discussion here about whether people should be allowed to play the game if they acquired it in a way that Microsoft doesn't profit. People are ethically quite lazy (no judgement) so I think more discussion needs to be had about how people can do that. Obviously banned methods aren't up for discussion here but getting things second hand or whatever. There just needs to be clear information about how each method could possibly enrich Microsoft (telemetry etc.) but a partial boycott is still better than none at all.

There also needs to be some kind of guidance on how to interface in social media. People find community by talking about these games and again asking them to abstain from that can be very challenging. We can use people's need to socialise while also using it as a method of popularising BDS. Unsure what the best methods are for that other than just mentioning it in every comment as a header/footer or something.

In saying all that it mostly also requires people have an alternative (mostly PC) that can replace an Xbox. Because you've got to be careful that you're not just asking poor people to just stop playing games. Maybe we can just go platform by platform and see how we can hit Microsoft's pockets as much as possible (disabling telemetry, switching to Linux, buying second hand etc etc.)

no judgement on my end here either and for people who want to still indulge in their hobby while not helping Microsoft profit, then I think buying secondhand is doing that just fine. but most of the forum isn't really willing to entertain that conversation either. it's easier for me only because I'm older now and I don't have as much time and therefore don't really need to spend as much money for video games. I'm gonna guess that the main demographic for age here on Era is probably people in their 20s.

I'd say we actually skew older than that, more in the 30s. Forums are an older generation thing.

Over in the bundle thread we have lots of heroes refusing to pay devs for their games, but some are still worried:

I get that you can chose to give the money to charity here, but am I right in saying all these games require a MS account to play, even on Steam? If so, that's something worth considering in regards to the boycott. Your data is as valuable as your $$$

Yeah that's where I'm at. Regardless of money they receive (which would be minimal regardless of the revenue share) I still feel as though participating in this bundle acts as a promotional source for Xbox and therefore falls within the territory of the boycott. That's just me though. Everyone else can make their own decision.

"Everyone can make their own decision about contributing to genocide." - people on a "progressive" forum

[benji]

Your data is as valuable as your $$$

Somebody might want to let the posters in this thread know about the boycott: https://www.resetera.com/threads/microsoft-rewards-ot-where-you-get-game-pass-xbl-gold-and-more-for-free.65980/page-324#post-139295163

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/eurogamer-the-last-of-us-part-2-online-backlash-prompted-naughty-dogs-next-star-to-get-bootcamp-ing-from-neil-druckmann.1186923/#post-139854144

User banned (1 week): Victim blaming. Account in junior phase.

Druckmann is the reason a lot of these issues happen. His decisions regarding the game (and increasingly the show) cause most of the backlash.

Lotus a post later

Sounds like victim blaming

[Jansen]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/eurogamer-the-last-of-us-part-2-online-backlash-prompted-naughty-dogs-next-star-to-get-bootcamp-ing-from-neil-druckmann.1186923/page-4#post-139869753

actually there aren't. they keep getting locked on here because people don't like it when you criticize their favourite developer

[Jansen]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/eurogamer-the-last-of-us-part-2-online-backlash-prompted-naughty-dogs-next-star-to-get-bootcamp-ing-from-neil-druckmann.1186923/page-4#post-139870860

This is your criticism





Such a thought-out well reasoned critic you are. You don't even have your own opinion, you are litereally basing your well reseaoned "Druckmann sucks" "criticism" on other people's reasons.





I feel like you are projecting a lot here. You have not put up a reasonable argument and no "Druckmann sucks" and a twitter post of him supporting his country of origin are not reasonable arguments" and i am literally engaging you who i disagree with.... right now. You don't make any sense at all.



Any criticisms that says Neil supports genocide or what Israel military is doing are invalid. That is not criticism worth even entertaining. Supporting one's own state of origin is not support of everything that they do.



The irony is truly lost on you. Neil writes a story about how anger and hate can cloud our judgement and lead one to dehumanize people and commit atrocities and here you are calling an entire country filled with diverse people evil, yet I'm the one that lacks nuance and impossible to reason with. God i hope you're not above 20 because you definitely do not sound like a well adjusted adult by your own standards.

Getting super spicy 🔥

[EaldNarche]

Feels like that thread is gonna get locked to "review reports" soon. Hamas-era is waking up to it.

[Jansen]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/stellar-blade-comes-to-pc-june-11th-leaked-trailer.1187286/

Look at all these gooners looking forward to a game 

[Jansen]

Fascism is here:

Hasan Piker, the biggest progressive political streamer in America, was detained by Customs and Border Protection for hours of questioning upon returning to the U.S. from a trip to France this weekend. Piker posted about the incident on X and later talked about it on stream.

He was detained in Chiago and questioned for two hours about protected journalistic activities like who he’s interviewed and his political beliefs. He was asked whether or not he’d interviewed Hamas, Houthis, or Hezbollah members. He was questioned about his opinions on Trump and Israel and asked about his history of bans on Twitch. His phone and laptop were not confiscated.

"They straight up tried to get something out of me that I think they could use to basically detain me permanently,” Piker said on stream following the incident. “… [the agent] kept saying stuff like, do you like Hamas? Do you support Hamas? Do you think Hamas is a terror group or a resistance group?”

“I kept repeating the same statement over and over again,” Piker said. “I kept saying... I'm on the side of civilians. I want the endless bloodshed to end. I am a pacifist. I want wars to end… which is insane because up until this moment. If you were to say as an American citizen, you stand 10 toes down with Hamas, or you stand 10 toes down with the Houthis, they can’t deny you entry into the country for that shit.”

...

Detaining U.S. citizens over speech, especially a political commentator and journalist, allows border control to become a tool of political intimidation.

“The reason they’re doing [this] is to try to create an environment of fear, to try to get people like myself, or others who would be in my shoes that don't have that same level of security, to shut the fuck up,” Piker said on a stream recounting the details of the incident.

“Nothing I have done online is illegal as of now,” Piker added. “Laws may change in the future, and they might actually start prosecuting speech, which I do fear is the goal of this administration. But so far, everything I’ve done is fully protected under the first amendment. And none of the questions [I was asked by CPB] are actually valid questions to ask.”

“I think they [detained me] because they know who the fuck I am and they wanted to put the fear of god into me, not knowing that I'm a stubborn piece of shit and that's not going to work at all,” Piker said.

In a functioning democracy, public figures and journalists are supposed to be able to criticize the government without fear of retaliation.

The reason the article keeps calling him a "journalist" is because it's Taylor Lorenz who believes that only journalists have rights.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/hasan-piker-detained-at-the-border-and-questioned-for-hours-over-politics.1187415/

[Jansen]

Meanwhile Ethan Klein and Asmongold celebrate their part in putting a target on him because of their psychosexual obsessions with him.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/hasan-piker-detained-at-the-border-and-questioned-for-hours-over-politics.1187415/#post-139873296

[Cheers]

It's weird how all the countries in North Africa and the Middle East which ethnically cleansed their Jews after WW2 are shitholes.

Must be colonialism and/or Israel's fault.

Can you go more in depth?

[DavidCroquet]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/eurogamer-the-last-of-us-part-2-online-backlash-prompted-naughty-dogs-next-star-to-get-bootcamp-ing-from-neil-druckmann.1186923/page-5#post-139875201

I think we have really lost the plot here. Sad that we can't even talk about chuds being awful to women without getting into Israel-Palestine/thoughtless views about that.

"Guyyyyys, this moral absolutist slapfight is distracting from our other moral absolutist slapfight!"

[Jansen]

I was a supporter of Trump in 2016 and 2020. People can make of that what they want. If that is actually why he was detained (I do not at all trust the media to tell the truth), then it is wrong and he has grounds for a lawsuit. The government may not detain someone over their political views. But something tells me that's not the real reason he was detained.

User Banned (permanent): troll account

https://www.resetera.com/threads/hasan-piker-detained-at-the-border-and-questioned-for-hours-over-politics.1187415/#post-139874634

[benji]

Gamers had a tantrum about the Xbox One

That was praxis.

Being shitty online and harassing workers on social media and being shitty to Microsoft PR people is called 'being an entitled asshole', in my book. No one is owed products that meet their personal wants. You don't want something, you don't buy it. You say why, you talk about it. But you don't harass people.

There is a straight line about harassment working there and people harassing other people for similar 'entitled gamer wants X' reasons.

No shit those who were being shit ain't worth shit. But you didn't word it to signify what Microsoft was trying to do with putting DRM on a console that would have had great ramifications about consumer rights if America and anywhere else just accepted what they tried to do.

Consoles have always had DRM. The 'consumer rights' you are talking about don't actually exist/don't prohibit online licensing schemes.

If you can't agree that harassing people is bad, we have nothing to talk about.

[benji]

The chuds are going after Nola, confirmed expert TLOU poster, to defend Zionism:

Personally I didn't find the WLF as faction to be all that empathetically written. You have Abby's friend group who is largely presented as more morally grey but whenever it comes to the WLF as a group and their ideology they come off as very aggressive and brutal militaristic society. Like they were trying to murder Ellie before they even knew why she was there. I don't even really agree that Abby is a good person considering how she straight up talks about how she'd love to torture some scars and how she treats her friends to the point where she becomes violent with them etc. (which is why I'm always a bit confounded at how people can walk away from the game thinking Abby is pure awesomesauce without any caveats)
It is true that overall we meet more "nice" people from the WLF than the Seraphites but to me that came more through experiencing them mostly through Abby's viewpoint who is part of that militaristic group herself.

This is an entirely offbase read of the game. Our first exposure to the WLF is them greenlighting a mission to track a man down to murder him, which is followed by our next introduction them being isolationist and killing ANY person on sight regardless of context, children included. From Abby's perspective we aren't shown "good people" we are shown an oppressive force with the longest cutscene in the entire game being about the leadership's planned genocide. One that we later see them attempt and fail to do while we can do nothing but escape. Meanwhile the only reason there's a war in the first place is because the WLF killed someone who became a martyr with the devotees largely ignoring her teachings. "A collection of many good people" like bruh, BRUH.

The WLF = the good and pure Israel standee is always a good way to tell when someone either didn't play the damn game. Didn't pay attention. Are just a dumb basic bitch. Or are just spouting shite they saw on reddit.


Like everything TLOU2, it isnt subtle. The WLF are depicted as paranoid, brute savages and hammered home several times.

Its like some people played a different game. The WLF are not framed as good people at all of course we see things from their own perspective since we play as Abby but they aren't portrayed as good people.

I don't think Abby is a great person either, but her entire journey is presented as someone that is in their own right a victim who then chooses to be a victimizer and perpetuator of cycles of violence.

Most of the WLF is given a lot of empathy and complexity in that regard. Im not saying they are full on sympathetic in all cases, but its clear there is an attempt to present many of them as flawed, but ultimately human. The scars are really the only faction in the Washington dynamic that are largely denied that.

The entire choice to focus on giving emotional complexity and humanity to the Israel allegory in this story, the communist Settlement allegory(Jackson) and little for the Palestinian faction(along with the bevy of borderline racist presentations of their society) itself has agency here.

The thing with Druckmann and where my thinking is at currently is I don't know how much is malicious and mean spirited or how much is just the sort of internalized blind spot from his upbringing that he never really challenged in a meaningful way. Same way that I see people on this site reflectively reach to adopt US imperial narratives all the time during emerging conflicts or long standing ones. Plenty of Americans that present themselves as progressive and champions of human rights that will espouse every virtue you can think of and then turn around and say things like "why do we even care so much about Gaza when these people throw LGBTQ people off buildings and don't value X rights"

Which is such a loaded statement to unpack(one I have heard a variation of repeatedly even on this site), including from people that I think have their hearts in the right place, but reflects a level of internalized propaganda and dehumanization from a US/western/Israeli perspective that is so entrenched and ahs remained so unchallenged they actually think expressing it actually reflects their progressive values in a positive way.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

I was a supporter of Trump in 2016 and 2020. People can make of that what they want. If that is actually why he was detained (I do not at all trust the media to tell the truth), then it is wrong and he has grounds for a lawsuit. The government may not detain someone over their political views. But something tells me that's not the real reason he was detained.

User Banned (permanent): troll account

https://www.resetera.com/threads/hasan-piker-detained-at-the-border-and-questioned-for-hours-over-politics.1187415/#post-139874634

https://www.resetera.com/threads/welcome-new-members-introduce-yourself-here.119184/page-43#post-139874517

Today [May 12]

Greetings from Wisconsin.

[HaughtyFrank]

Meanwhile Ethan Klein and Asmongold celebrate their part in putting a target on him because of their psychosexual obsessions with him.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/hasan-piker-detained-at-the-border-and-questioned-for-hours-over-politics.1187415/#post-139873296

lol at blaming other streamers for this. Big surprise that the guys who make you fill out a "are you a terrorist" questionnaire will question someone who publicly streams propaganda videos from terror groups

[benji]

There is no damn way I'm going anywhere in the good ole U S of A anytime soon.

Expected of US. That is why I will never go near US in my life again.

Even non-famous people need to uninstall any social media app from their phone and scrub the fuck out of them before re-entering the country.

All the time I'm less likely to ever set foot in the US again.

 

Just a few hours ago I told my gf he will likely end up being arrested or deported.

Stay safe.

Fuck the Police/ice/pigs.

It's astonishing how complaint these assholes are.

Are we getting ever closer to the future predicted by The Hamdmaid's Tale's Gilead?

What happens if you do a Marshell Lynch?

 

Uhh, why is this even relevant? It's not illegal either way, not yet at least.

No, but it's a perfect starting point for modern American fascism cause like in Nazi Germany, the center and liberal parties had been helping poison the well against far left groups(in this case pro Palestinian figures) so when the nazis begin taking the next step, even their immediate political rivals aren't going to say much, many will even cheer it on.

But then you keep shifting the goal posts until far left Russian sympathetic revolutionaries comes to mean anyone with even moderately left wing sentiments or groups like the Jews that are stereotyped as being nefarious agents for communism, social deviance and all the other racist shit.

Demoralizing to see this shit in real time with so much history repeating.

 

Seems like this was mostly for intimidation but it wouldn't shock me if people vocally critical of Trump start disappearing at some point :(

This is how it starts, we have lots of history texts showing this.

You mean like this guy?

Or maybe this one?

Hard not to feel like we're all fucked at this point.

You didn't mention your soon to be trans child! Erasure!!!  

inb4 Ethan Klein makes a 4 hour rant video about how this proves Hasan is an antisemite , while screaming "Arabs" over and over again.

Sounds more like Hasan's side of that debate.

This is literally a "First they came for ___, then they came for me" situation. The fact that ICE knows Hasan and tried to do the most they can to get him arrested shows that Donald Trump is willing to go after anyone who disagrees with his administration.

We are in full on Gestapo territory now.

Not surprising in the slightest and a sad example of how far things have fallen and how far they are going to continue to fall as the Trump administration slowly but surely advances their fascist agenda. I'm sure he'll be held for much longer than 2 hours next time he returns home.

This is still the testing-the-waters-phase. The NSUSA are not a safe place for anti-fascists.

More people who have never come through customs before.

The Dems will continue to neglect the online/social media space and cause people to be scared to even voice their opinions. This is the shit the facists are thriving on to silence us. Really wish they got their assess in check years ago to have a united front in this space

They're certainly not going to do much to defend someone like Hasan.

Does he want the support of genocidal fascist parties that poison the well against anti-fascists?

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/eurogamer-the-last-of-us-part-2-online-backlash-prompted-naughty-dogs-next-star-to-get-bootcamp-ing-from-neil-druckmann.1186923/page-5#post-139875201

I think we have really lost the plot here. Sad that we can't even talk about chuds being awful to women without getting into Israel-Palestine/thoughtless views about that.

"Guyyyyys, this moral absolutist slapfight is distracting from our other moral absolutist slapfight!"

It's lovely how this thread confirms the hate Neil is talking about. It's easy to point at the chuds but here we are.

[killamajig]

I was a supporter of Trump in 2016 and 2020. People can make of that what they want. If that is actually why he was detained (I do not at all trust the media to tell the truth), then it is wrong and he has grounds for a lawsuit. The government may not detain someone over their political views. But something tells me that's not the real reason he was detained.

User Banned (permanent): troll account

https://www.resetera.com/threads/hasan-piker-detained-at-the-border-and-questioned-for-hours-over-politics.1187415/#post-139874634

https://www.resetera.com/threads/welcome-new-members-introduce-yourself-here.119184/page-43#post-139874517

Today [May 12]

Greetings from Wisconsin.

FYI, it wasn't me

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/recommendations-for-horror-films-where-mental-health-neurodivergence-and-non-cis-identities-are-not-vilified-or-treated-as-victims-to-be-pitted.1187472/

As I've gotten older I find myself watching less and less horror films, in part because I don't find them as enjoyable as I used to and have to be in the right mindset. Like as a teen, when I was around 15 I watched A LOT of horror, hundreds of horror films to test my boundaries but I can't really do that anymore. Like I've soured a lot on Slasher films, especially the Friday the 13th series mostly because I find it hard to not to notice how very conservatives in it's theming those films are, find it harder to enjoy them knowing a lot of the behind the scenes stuff (I'm sorry women should not be pressured into doing sex scenes or doing nude scenes and shouldn't be considered less of an actress for not doing them) like the poor safety conditions; and quite bluntly, I find stuff like Freddy tormenting a woman while in the real world she's being sexually assaulted as she sleeps until she's brutally murdered by Jason (Freddy vs Jason) just not enjoyable to watch and find murder not to be funny.

However one big thing that I've found it really hard to reconcile is how so much of it vilifies mental health, non-cis people and neurodivergent. Where mental health issues and conditions are used as a quirk to make the villain more "scary" or "wrong" or to justify why their killers or villains; other, us, push really nasty negative stereotypes, implies we're all just monsters just moments from snapping and killing people, That non-cis people are wrong or just messed up in the head (something that REALLY bothers me given those attitudes are being used to justify my right to existence being taken away from me right now in the UK because I'm trans) or autistic people are uncaring sociopaths.

And even then, even if we're not the villain, we're so rarely ever allowed to be the hero, the protagonist, have the story be about us. So often if we're not the villain we're treated like a victim to be pitted like negative stereotypes of autistic kids who can't look after themselves that must be protected for example. That our existence is tragic. 

As such does anyone have recommendation for horror films that follow all the following criteria:

1. The hero/protagonist has a Mental health condition, is neurodivergent and/or is non-Cis (and please DON NOT try to be cute and say Jason is actually the hero of Friday the 13th, just don't).
   
2. The above groups are not vilified or used as the villains "quirk"/explanation for why their evil/a killer.
   
3. Those above groups are depicted respectively, non-stereotypically or used as source of pity.
   

And preferably also fills these criteria:

1. Doesn't use the ugly = evil trope
   
2. Doesn't objectify or sexualize women for the titillation of men
   
3. Pro-LGBTQ+
   
4. Doesn't have a cis straight man as the protagonist, preferably a woman or Non-binary lead.
   
5. Isn't a Slasher
   
6. No animal killing or at least doesn't glorify it
   
7. No treating murder as a source of comedy or as something we should cheer at.
   
8. Is actually well written.
   

I'm genuinely curious to see what people recommend.

[killamajig]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/recommendations-for-horror-films-where-mental-health-neurodivergence-and-non-cis-identities-are-not-vilified-or-treated-as-victims-to-be-pitted.1187472/

As I've gotten older I find myself watching less and less horror films, in part because I don't find them as enjoyable as I used to and have to be in the right mindset. Like as a teen, when I was around 15 I watched A LOT of horror, hundreds of horror films to test my boundaries but I can't really do that anymore. Like I've soured a lot on Slasher films, especially the Friday the 13th series mostly because I find it hard to not to notice how very conservatives in it's theming those films are, find it harder to enjoy them knowing a lot of the behind the scenes stuff (I'm sorry women should not be pressured into doing sex scenes or doing nude scenes and shouldn't be considered less of an actress for not doing them) like the poor safety conditions; and quite bluntly, I find stuff like Freddy tormenting a woman while in the real world she's being sexually assaulted as she sleeps until she's brutally murdered by Jason (Freddy vs Jason) just not enjoyable to watch and find murder not to be funny.

However one big thing that I've found it really hard to reconcile is how so much of it vilifies mental health, non-cis people and neurodivergent. Where mental health issues and conditions are used as a quirk to make the villain more "scary" or "wrong" or to justify why their killers or villains; other, us, push really nasty negative stereotypes, implies we're all just monsters just moments from snapping and killing people, That non-cis people are wrong or just messed up in the head (something that REALLY bothers me given those attitudes are being used to justify my right to existence being taken away from me right now in the UK because I'm trans) or autistic people are uncaring sociopaths.

And even then, even if we're not the villain, we're so rarely ever allowed to be the hero, the protagonist, have the story be about us. So often if we're not the villain we're treated like a victim to be pitted like negative stereotypes of autistic kids who can't look after themselves that must be protected for example. That our existence is tragic.

As such does anyone have recommendation for horror films that follow all the following criteria:

The hero/protagonist has a Mental health condition, is neurodivergent and/or is non-Cis (and please DON NOT try to be cute and say Jason is actually the hero of Friday the 13th, just don't).
The above groups are not vilified or used as the villains "quirk"/explanation for why their evil/a killer.
Those above groups are depicted respectively, non-stereotypically or used as source of pity.

And preferably also fills these criteria:
Doesn't use the ugly = evil trope
Doesn't objectify or sexualize women for the titillation of men
Pro-LGBTQ+
Doesn't have a cis straight man as the protagonist, preferably a woman or Non-binary lead.
Isn't a Slasher
No animal killing or at least doesn't glorify it
No treating murder as a source of comedy or as something we should cheer at.
Is actually well written.
I'm genuinely curious to see what people recommend.

In general I love German expressionist horror, Wes Craven's New Nightmare (though I kind of wish the film didn't have the studio mandated stuff because it hurts the film), I love Peter Cushing and the Alien film series.

Oh and Godzilla and related Kaiju... Though how much that's considered horror is up for debate and varies from film to film.

[killamajig]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-folio-sociey-has-just-released-use-of-weapons-book-3-of-ian-m-banks-culture-series.1187337/

Another banger from Ed

A $140.00 book

Ed, you'll never be a rich White guy. Stop.

Bonus Ed:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/american-tourist-climbs-over-fence-at-colosseum-does-not-have-a-good-time.1184844/page-3#post-139811145

One of the primary reasons along with preservation that no one is allowed to climb the Giza/Dashur pyramids. It's a death if you fall past a certain height.

Ed: "How can I make Roman thing about me and Egypt?"

Bonus Ed:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/archaeologists-unearth-tree-lined-500-trees-walkway-that-led-to-ancient-egyptian-fortress-in-sinai-desert.1183242/

ZERO replies

Even Era getting tired of his shtick.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/x-ray-reveals-ancient-greek-author-of-charred-first-century-bc-vesuvius-scroll.1182441/
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[benji]

Even half of those criteria, let alone all of them, nearly eliminate every horror movie you can think of.

The Ring almost counts except nobody has a mental health condition. (Naomi Watts is a journalist however.)

[Snoopy]

I keep thinking that stickied BDS thread is something to do with irritable bowel syndrome

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/recommendations-for-horror-films-where-mental-health-neurodivergence-and-non-cis-identities-are-not-vilified-or-treated-as-victims-to-be-pitted.1187472/#post-139880601

Go make your movie buddy. This doesn't exist, maybe ISTVG but it doesn't hit all that criteria.

[HaughtyFrank]

When you love horror except anything horror

[books]

Doesn't use the ugly = evil trope
Doesn't objectify or sexualize women for the titillation of men
Pro-LGBTQ+
Doesn't have a cis straight man as the protagonist, preferably a woman or Non-binary lead.
Isn't a Slasher
No animal killing or at least doesn't glorify it
No treating murder as a source of comedy or as something we should cheer at.

Based on the criteria, I dont think EchoesCyborg likes horror movies at all.

[ClothedMac]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/eurogamer-the-last-of-us-part-2-online-backlash-prompted-naughty-dogs-next-star-to-get-bootcamp-ing-from-neil-druckmann.1186923/page-4#post-139868121

The WLF are deeply humanized and centralized: Good people, bad leadership, many are simply victims to the cycles of violence we must all break or unwitting victims to the cycles others have imposed and forced upon them.

The Seraphites largely remain caricatures. There is no interest in humanizing them. They are brutes, fanatics, cultists that can't be redeemed unless they are 'saved' early like Lev. They terrorize for the love of the game and the few insights we get of people in the community, most of the empathy derived is of a tragic posture. Like the two kids that lost their mom and felt their dad wasn't fighting back enough so they ran away and joined the Seraphites cause they are fighters. Reading almost like a "the kids succumbed to radicalization due to an absentee father."

Unlike in real life the Seraphites are presented as a group that organically became this way, that through leaders radicalizing a religion presented as illegitimate and stupid, there is now little to dwell on over humanizing with it's barbarity other than killing innocents is bad(but at many times its implied few are innocent here). Even if a lot of the actions of the WLF are cruel. There is not much dwelling on the wholesale burning of their island which is kinda on brand in it's own right...

Which again, in contrast to the real story of Israel/Palestine which is one of 100 years of apartheid, ethnic cleansing, and violent oppression that has snuffed out any real societal advancement and undermined any opportunity for peace or proper development(a story across a lot of the ME due to western colonialism). Unlike what is often presented in Israeli media and in this game, the Palestinians are not an actual threat necessitating the level of violence continually perpetuated and used. For someone that has openly said he has used the conflict as inspiration, how Druckmann has chosen to present the obvious allegories is also just as telling and suggests a deeply problematic view of the conflict, Israel's role in it, and the Palestinian people writ large.

Watch TLOU.  "Wow at those deranged, primitive, cult members who slice people open alive and them torture to death.  Those clearly represent Palestinians!  Why are you looking at me that way.  I'm just saying what everyone is thinking. "

[DocWager]

I just see TLOU for what it is. That being a total ripoff of the Walking Dead comic. The religious cult group is straight up just them doing their own take on the bald cult group from near the end of the series. I guess maybe the big difference is that Walking Dead is about the awful things we do to create order to establish(or re-establish) societies. TLoU touches on some of this, but doesn’t do it as well. Joel isn’t willing to kill Ellie like Rick is willing to lose his own family to lead humanity back into control of itself.

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/gop-senator-introduces-bill-to-make-all-porn-a-federal-crime-following-project-2025-playbook.1187394/#post-139871511

The GOP would do better to stop being pedophiles before going after porn....

but then who would be left in the GOP