Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 1)

[Besticus Maximus]

He comes on here to critique us talking offhand about other people in other places between us, but we're not actively seeking out individual baddies to have an apocalyptic good and evil battle against them, we're just noting that they're wrong and hypocrites and more often than not unhinged in different ways. He's up until 5 am every night duking it out with his enemies who do not share his vision of the lilo and stitch remakes' meta-ethics. When one of them doesn't take the bait, he moves down his list of grievances, which has no end and gets topped up multiple times per day.

[benji]

For somebody who is no longer on Bluesky and posting through a "team" this fucker sure does tweet a lot:

I really shouldn’t even be on here it’s awful how all the people who know and can do something to speak out have abdicated responsibility so I have to come on here and tweet AGAIN just to help Nyara

Like holy shit dude. I’m so disappointed in how all of this has been handled — A

Or skeet. Whatever we call it. Idk. I just want to be offline but no one with my level of influence wants to speak up and it’s tiring. I want to be OFFLINE dude!!! Someone please tap tf in — A

If a trans VTuber graduates bc of this shit I’ll really never be able to forgive the entire industry, like everyone had the power to speak up but no one wanted to bc cis ppl don’t care about trans women — A

Like how am I supposed to rest and relax when I see my own colleagues being targeted and every other cis person with real influence and authority is like yea that sucks but ummm not gonna talk about it

Come ON — A

Like all of this is about so much more now than a few articles I wrote in the spring

This is very clearly a moment where the knives are out and the media apparatus is failing trans people, throwing them to the wolves —A

A JOURNALIST'S LIFE HAS BEEN THREATENED FOR TWO MONTHS:

Literally tweeted as I was copy/pasting the above.

[Besticus Maximus]

I'm begging them to come up with an analogy besides the Nazi bar

Gettin' breakfast at the ku klux cafe 

[benji]

At least a Nazi bar wouldn't actually profit off genocide like ResetERA.com does off Microsoft's baby slaughters.

[Alpacx]

I'm begging them to come up with an analogy besides the Nazi bar

Gettin' breakfast at the ku klux cafe 

Starving to death at the Maoist Mess Hall.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

It's ironic(not really, they're just dumbasses) that they want to turn the nazi bar anecdote into a 1:1 comparison.


Especially since they don't realize the actual point of the bar tale, has happened to era.

[Bootsthecat]

If you're sitting at a table with a bunch of mentally ill people at a place that empowers folks with mental illness, and tells them their mental illnesses are something to be celebrated, you are what exactly?

[Cauliflower Of Love]

[benji]

If you're sitting at a table with a bunch of mentally ill people at a place that empowers folks with mental illness, and tells them their mental illnesses are something to be celebrated, you are what exactly?

Likely an egg.

[Rendle]

If a trans VTuber graduates bc of this shit I’ll really never be able to forgive the entire industry, like everyone had the power to speak up but no one wanted to bc cis ppl don’t care about trans women — A

Is 'graduates' slang for suicide? I'm just guessing off of context since trans people are always talking about killing themselves. I tried urbandictionary, googling "graduates" "slang" "tiktok" etc, found nothing.

[benji]

I find it completely bizarre that so many people spend all their money and time in video games, comics, movies, TV shows, books, all of them featuring narratives about oppressed people fighting against adversity, fighting against evil, authoritarian evil, racist evil, evil empires... and in real life you're all basically Syrril Karn.

[benji]

If a trans VTuber graduates bc of this shit I’ll really never be able to forgive the entire industry, like everyone had the power to speak up but no one wanted to bc cis ppl don’t care about trans women — A

Is 'graduates' slang for suicide? I'm just guessing off of context since trans people are always talking about killing themselves. I tried urbandictionary, googling "graduates" "slang" "tiktok" etc, found nothing.

It's slang from J-pop/K-pop when someone leaves the group it's said they graduated.

[killamajig]

I bet NepNep still uses her Twitter.

Say what you will about Nepenthe, she stopped posting on it (probably because people are watching) unlike somebody else (timestamps local for him):

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

This is for Peep Show fans but everytime Jeff says something he thinks is clever or funny I hear Dobbys voice singing this...

[HaughtyFrank]

https://bsky.app/profile/acvalens.net/post/3lpz65kr3322i

"Asmongold canceled me" 
Honey, cancel culture doesn't exist.

If a trans VTuber graduates bc of this shit I’ll really never be able to forgive the entire industry, like everyone had the power to speak up but no one wanted to bc cis ppl don’t care about trans women — A

Is 'graduates' slang for suicide? I'm just guessing off of context since trans people are always talking about killing themselves. I tried urbandictionary, googling "graduates" "slang" "tiktok" etc, found nothing.

It just means retiring. Ironically that's something they trans gang did to a v-tuber for streaming Hogwarts Legacy.

[Besticus Maximus]

Jeff obviously bought a cinema ticket to a showing he didn't go to to win arguments he started himself on a forum 

[killamajig]

https://bsky.app/profile/acvalens.net/post/3lpz65kr3322i

It's like they don't want to fight their own battles. They put more effort into complaining about allies not doing the work than actually working themselves.

[benji]

It's like they don't want to fight their own battles. They put more effort into complaining about allies not doing the work than actually working themselves.

Oh, so I should have to emotionally labor for others to show basic human decency?

[benji]

Like, I don't think that y'all are grasping that someone on the internet told me to kill myself and yet nobody in journalism is covering this at all. What if I had done what they said? The cis don't seem to care. Again. Like always.

[killamajig]

It's like they don't want to fight their own battles. They put more effort into complaining about allies not doing the work than actually working themselves.

Oh, so I should have to emotionally labor for others to show basic human decency?

I'm sorry, I apologize. I should fight harder for trans people than the trans people themseves. I'm being selfish.

EDIT:
What's the trans equivalent of Indulgences. I might need to do one of thoses

[killamajig]

Like, I don't think that y'all are grasping that someone on the internet told me to kill myself and yet nobody in journalism is covering this at all. What if I had done what they said? The cis don't seem to care. Again. Like always.

The group that wishes death to all MAGAs is shocked MAGAs use the same language back at them and no one cares.  

[Blueball]

Stuff like that makes me wonder what some members would do with themselves if ERA ever shuts down or collapse. Their entire personality involves dictating the discourse there. Can you imagine Zeo finding a new home that would tolerate his BS for as long as ERA have and not have him catch a perma ban? Will TransERA ever find another captive audience like they have with ERA? Where else can someone like Messeo build his online dossier and make sure you know every wrong-think even the smallest, most obscure person online has done?

You're literally on a forum obsessed with Era, which political opinons tend to be "the opposite of anything era things". Several members here are people who got banned on era and are so butthurt they spent years obsessing over it.

Look at this shit:

same reason why people still post on a forum thats purged most if its staunchest anti-zionists and lefties

Going backwards a page from that post first:

The amount of people ITT just casually stating they still use the site is absurd.

It's kinda ironic considering how this forum originated.
I left twitter when my feeds became full of Elon posts and other Nazi shit. I'd rather be in a platform where keeping the Nazis out doesn't require me to spend hours curating my feed.

It is, very.
Unless a person has some need to use the site for something outside of basic entertainment/news that I can't think of, anyone still using it is absolutely not an ally and/or is actively supportive of the site's owner.

Everyone likes to post the story about how you have to kick Nazis out of the bar before they turn it into a Nazi bar, but it turns out there's another possible ending to that story aside from "bar is all Nazis or no Nazis." Turns out, even once it becomes a Nazi bar, a lot of the regulars will keep going because it's easier than finding a new place. So now it's a Nazi bar with a lot of folks who insist they're not with them. Some of those people are probably less resilient towards being immersed in Nazi shit than they think they are, which is how Nazis recruit.

from my experience they are following terrible bigots and bragging about it

It's the same as people in the Xbox BDS threads saying stuff like "well, if I boycotted Xbox then I wouldn't get to have Game Pass, and we all know that can't happen"
Like, what are you even talking about??

Ironically i usually see more elon tweets on bluesky than actual twitter these days because people on bluesky seem to obsessed with screenshotting things from twitter and dunking on them.
I only use my following tab on twitter and i haven't really seen much of elon or any other right wingers simply because i don't follow them. I use a extension to block this grok AI stuff and all the algorithm bullshit.
Sure replies are often a cesspit but they always been. Outside of more ads (which i actively block wherever i can on twitter)my timeline hasn't really changed that much.

So because you're closing your eyes and putting your fingers in your ears it's okay.
EDIT: I'm probably going to take a ban if I stay in this thread, so I'm putting it on ignore. I honestly can't believe how many of you are okay with supporting this site.

And in this case the analogy only works if the bar was bought by a nazi, who then invited all of the nazis who were previously banned back to the bar, for the sole purpose of using the bar to indoctrinate everyone who walks through the doors in nazi propaganda.

People's reasons for staying on X are a fascinating insight into why companies continue to enshittify.
"All my friends are still there."
"It's not so bad if I...."
"That's always been like that."
"It's just as bad anywhere else."

It's the perfect microcosm for how society has gotten to where it is. 10-20 years ago enshittification used to kill behemoths of sites because it was so much easier for the average user to say "well fuck you, then". Now the internet has been compacted into a few social fiefdoms where nobody feels empowered to do anything even when they know things have gotten bad.

The amount of people ITT just casually stating they still use the site is absurd.

It's abhorrent

This.
I don't get all those nazi posts that everyone say they do. Also, I don't follow USA focused accoinrs or people.

The owner of the platform is LITERALLY a Nazi, how hard is this to understand?

And the world doesn't revolve the US, and if I want local update from politician and my countries various ministry on other stuff, Facebook and Twitter is sitll what's used, and if I want to contact my local representative, Twitter and facebook is still the best way to reach them.

The rest of your post makes complete sense but the first part is a little odd. It's not like the definition of a Nazi changes from country to country.

... And Elon Musk is supporting Nazi political parties all and the world, not just in the USA
If you're still on X then every interaction you have is bankrolling a global Nazi movement

And the world doesn't revolve the US, and if I want local update from politician and my countries various ministry on other stuff, Facebook and Twitter is sitll what's used, and if I want to contact my local representative, Twitter and facebook is still the best way to reach them.

And thank God for Elon Musk for providing that one and only channel. The world might not revolve around the US but apparently your representation in your country's government revolves around a nazi.

It shouldn't be super surprising. We had no shortage of people dismissing the threat of Trump or talking about sending Democrats a message by not voting against him. As much as people say certain things matter to them most people are pretty comfortable consuming stuff from their phones and acting like it's awful those things that are happening to people. But they were never truly worried about orange Hitler because they figured their existence wouldn't change much. Or at least not worried an enough to work towards defeating him and for some the 5 minutes of filling out something was too much.
So to quit X being insurmountable for so many because "but you don't understand it's the best at…" makes sense.

JFC, humanity is doomed because people are too selfish to overcome their social media addictions and continue to justify them in any way possible 🤦🤦🤦 It's just beyond fucking belief! And furthermore people are actually proudly proclaiming their special reasons that they need to keep supporting fascists and Nazis because their particular addiction is just far too important and special. I'm out, you guys can all justify away to your hearts content but you're all part of the problem.

I don't get it either, era itself felt like it dragged its feet before they finally got to it too.
I don't really get the news excuse too. Do y'all really need every bit of news asap? Like if your government posted something on Twitter it'll get reported to your country/region/local news. Like we all seemed to functioned pretty well before the creation of Twitter.

Most of the ERA's posts came from Twitter. I've noticed fewer news and updates on here since the ban.

People not leaving their table at the Nazi bar 'cause of some sports idols and artists on a whole other table in the same Nazi bar. They'd probably rarely if ever had a conversation or would recognize or even know each other outside of the bar. They just really enjoy being in the same bar. The bar owner is throwing salutes to his hollering fans right at the next table but man, this bar is great.

Advertisers still paying money to Twitter are morally bankrupt. That everyone with a shred of decency hasn't taken the minimally inconveniencing step of moving to a nearly 1:1 alternative is an indictment on society.

Annoyingly the majority of the companies and people I follow never switched over to Bluesky.

So, legit question:
Why is peoples thought in this case "well I guess then I should stay as well", and not "well if they like to hang with Nazis, they probably weren't worth following in the first place"?

Because it would be silly of me to assume that everyone using Twitter is a Nazi.

But I didn't say that, I said "fine hanging with Nazis. On a Nazi-led Platform. Full of Nazis."

I guess people don't care about frequenting nazi bar. For multiple reasons, they chose to stay there. Wild but expected given human nature.

All the folks saying they don't see the rivers of racist sewage that flow through the place... Its owned and run by a literal nazi. A nazi who bought the platform so he could use it to disseminate nazi propaganda, help get Trump elected, and influence elections to get other fascists elected in Europe. The fact you're just there to talk about baseball is irrelevant. You're still supporting a nazi.

I really hope Europe will take action against Elon Musk and X (an outright ban shouldn't be possible, but there are other ways to penalize this platform), though I'm not holding my breath.

Apparently Elon Musk is just an American problem.
"Elon Musk endorses AFD"
Get off the fucking nazi website.

The websites you visit, the apps you use, the businesses you spend your money at. These are all political choices. Choices that have real world consequences. Nearly all of the tech companies that blew up over the last 30 years have grown so large they have far too much influence over our lives and far too much power in the world. And with Trump, they just showed everyone that they are willing to elevate fascists to positions of power when it suits them. Musk has shown the world that he's a white supremacist nazi piece of shit over and over and over again. And this is the richest man in the world. It's time everyone start thinking a lot harder about their role in all of this. If you're not a nazi fascist piece of shit then stop patronising nazi fascist piece of shit organisations.

I'm not American.

Nazis are an international problem, not an excuse.

I'm not American.

Neither am I.
It is not an excuse.

But I didn't say that, I said "fine hanging with Nazis. On a Nazi-led Platform. Full of Nazis."

You were never going to get an honest answer to your question.

i wonder the reaction if you could go back in time and tell the people that were risking their lives fighting the Nazis, that in the future one of the biggest networks where people interact is owned by a neo-nazi doing salutes in public, and interfering with elections/spreading right wing bullshit and discourse, and instead of pushing back, people are just still using the platform, and can't be bothered to change to any other website/community because reasons.
The nazi bar is a perfect allegory, really. We know many of the tech companies do bullshit in the shadows so at least people can pretend they do not know, but with X, Elon is basically filling people's eyes with shit blatantly, 24/7.

For me, the site has a really high average quality of intellectual discussion cuz I've curated it that way. I do not see fascist content presented without comment... pretty much ever.

But the owner is literally a nazi and everyone using the site is furthering his goals, it doesn't matter how curated your feed is, it doesn't matter if you don't see it, that doesn't make it go away.

Sure. In much the same way that my continual usage of Windows supports the Gaza genocide, there is something unconscionable about using Twitter. I'm in agreement there. However, because of the milieu I find myself in, the points of analysis people make when discussing Musk's power, how he gained it, how he perpetuates it - it looks much more like systems analysis stuff. Yesterday I was reading this article on the new Abundance book by Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson (because this book continues to be a pain in the side of the left contingent even a month on, there is a desire to demonstrate how thoroughly limited its analysis is), there is a section about Musk's rise to power in there. I'll quote it at length.

I'm sorry, but the owner literally threw a nazi salute and is actively propagating overt neo-nzai agendas. Anyone continuing to use his platform is helping his goals, it doesn't matter if that's not your intent and it doesn't matter if you personally deleting your account makes a 000000000.1% impact on Musk's power.
It's about drawing a line in the sand at supporting a man who threw a fucking HH salute, it shouldn't matter how little that support amounts to. That suppot should be 0.0%.
Yes, living in a capitalist society means we're all contributing to systemic issues with our consumption habits. To be perfect here is unavoidable, many people need to use technologies and services for their livlihoods, etc...
But, if you're only using Twitter for entertainment and news because of its convenience, this can be replaced with something else far more easily than other things like operating systems on your PC, or phones etc... it doesn't cost you any money to delete your account, all it costs is a bit of inconvenience when sourcing your entertainment and news in future.
Don't even try to whatabsoutism this, there's no excuse.... especially when most people are literally just using the site for entertainment and convenience.

The guy was standing in the Whitehouse last week with the president of the United fucking States, forcing the president of South Africa to watch white supremacist brain rot conspiracy theories about white genocide as if they were generally accepted facts. We're way beyond some abstract notions, or future what ifs. Nazis are in the fucking whitehouse. What do you think happens next? Just get off the fucking nazi propaganda platform.

There are plenty of real leftists on Bluesky, but I guess the website crawling with Nazis is more preferable than the one with liberals for some reason. Moreover, there is just something about Twitter that attracts the worst kind of leftists: the annoying ones who are enamored with lame dunks, petty squabbles, and clout chasing.
There are far better intellectual conversations to be had on TikTok, Reddit, and Bluesky.

One thing that's true for the internet and real life imo, is people would genuinely rather hang out at a Nazi bar than like outside a library.
Sure there are Nazis at the bar, and they constantly talk about how certain people are subhuman, but ya know, the squares are at the library.
Also, this is a bit of a sidenote, but it's wild to me how much we make fun of wine moms when they're like the only group who seem to understand that it's always important to vote against Republicans.

folks are really looking for any excuse to justify their addiction to the nazi site, huh
'but bsky is lame' is such a fucking self-report

This thread is such a depressing read. People will really come up with any non-work (I'm giving the benefit of doubt to those whose livelihood depends on exposure/managing there) related reason to sustain their social media addiction on a blatantly Nazi owned service.

NGL at this point "but work" isn't an excuse anymore., especially if we're talking about personal accounts. I'm really curious about these highly sought after accounts that apparently only exist on Twitter to follow, that seem to be much more important to stare at then leaving the Nazi site. Weirdly enough no one named any. I figure it's wrestling, very unsurprisingly.

If you're still on X at this point then you may not think you're personally a Nazi but your actively supporting people who are Nazis

Yeah, end of discussion really.

I ain't leaving until the ship sinks
I created my account before dumbass Musk so there for I own twitter
Plus I never updated the app so it's still called Twitter for me 😎

The ship has sunk. It's owned by a literal fascist who uses it as platform to spew and promote repugnant ideas and users at the expense decency.
That's not how ownership works, Elon Musk owns Twitter.
That literally doesn't mean a thing.
That many find this the only place to find your "community" is just gross. If your "community" only exists on this website, maybe make the smallest of effort and look elsewhere rather than just accept it? Just find it complete goblin behavior that people are willing to admit on this website that they "care" about the awfulness of the website, but it apparently it hasn't crossed the threshold yet for them?

I try not to be judgmental of folks who stayed,

Why? I absolutely will, especially if some of those guys want to lesson me about other social topics in the future while gleefully fence sitting on Twitter.
The Nazi bar table comparison is completely legit.

Yeah it's getting gross tbh. There comes a point where you have to start asking the question, if you're okay with being in the Nazi bar, what does that make you?

This dude spent hours reading a thread, quoting every post and reposting it to get a "gotcha" on era on an anti-era circlejerk.

[Jansen]

If a trans VTuber graduates bc of this shit I’ll really never be able to forgive the entire industry, like everyone had the power to speak up but no one wanted to bc cis ppl don’t care about trans women — A

Is 'graduates' slang for suicide? I'm just guessing off of context since trans people are always talking about killing themselves. I tried urbandictionary, googling "graduates" "slang" "tiktok" etc, found nothing.

It's slang from J-pop/K-pop when someone leaves the group it's said they graduated.

So basically you're pressured into the TransCult for life

[Jansen]

Doesn't... everyone deserve this?

[Jansen]

Anyways stop whining when you willing chose hard mode on life

[Jansen]

https://bsky.app/profile/esqueer.net/post/3lpyyf65pds2s

[Eric Cartman]

Words have meanings and while you could potentially say Thunderbolts came in under expectations, a movie that doubles its budget at the box office is rarely ever considered a flop. The only MCU movie that has unequivocally flopped is The Marvels, with an argument to be made about The Incredible Hulk. Even Quantumania made a slight profit.

You don't have to be a business expert to know that making back slightly more than you spent on a multimillion dollar project that took literally hundreds of thousands of man hours to create is a flop, because you could have made more than that by doing sweet fuck all and just leaving that money in a bank account, idiot

[Eric Cartman]

So where are the 14,000 starved to death babies?

I dunno about that, but I can find you evidence of one fat baby with 14,000 posts about how they're starving to death?

[Eric Cartman]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/nintendo-details-free-upgrades-for-many-nintendo-switch-1-games-visual-enhancements-60fps-hdr.1190823/page-3#post-140040432

Finally a functional patch for SV. This is so good for Switch gamers. Happy for us/yall.

I don't play it anymore, I play Compass (a modded version) and now that I have a 5090...I can easily play native 4K RTX HDR 144 FPS Compass with high poke density no problem.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/pok%C3%A9mon-main-series-and-spinoff-rumors-leaks-speculation-and-discussion-thread-spoilers.690604/page-423#post-140235579

I made a thread about it in the past, so I'm not trying to sound like I'm bragging, but Pokemon SV is actually quite a good game if you mod/emulate it. Back on my 4090 I struggled at getting 4K60 on it, but now with my new 5090, I want to upload footage of what 4K 144 Hz Pokemon Compass (SV difficulty/game/trainer rehaul) at high-overworld-Pokemon density, high LOD, and far draw distances can look like. But I'm sure Nintendo would nuke it off the planet lol. The texture on Jigglypuff....just wild.

Not to mention my 5090 is strong enough to run it in VR so I do SuperDepth3DVR mixed with ReShade on my Meta Quest 3 to do pseudo-stereoscopic curved-screen mixed reality gaming of Pokemon Compass and it's a blast.

Unfortunately no Switch 2 uprez or upgrade is going to compete with my PC setup, but I'm still planning on getting a Switch 2 when my reservation queue opens up.

Literally every post on his last page worth of posts is him bragging about his 5090

someone who is good at the economy please help me budget this. my marriage is dying.

[Eric Cartman]

My parents took me to see The Fox And The Hound then Bambi. Fucking traumatized for life. After those two nothing was shocking. The Exorcist? Walk in the park. Texas Chainsaw Massacre? Jog on fatty.

My parents bought us Watership Down on VHS. Fuck your feelings.

[Eric Cartman]

I'm begging them to come up with an analogy besides the Nazi bar

Especially given they're all Tier 1 Subs to Lord Haw Haw