United States Politics: ∆τ_i*ε*φ*m_i<0 where ε=4 and φ=0.25

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

Because our dear leader will rightfully rule the east until they can rally their power and take over the west. You should know this already benji.

[benji]

Are you really suggesting that Juche isn't the perfect system that already is superior to the decedent backwards West?

[Potato]

y'all need to stop being haters. King Charles is the only ruler ordained by god to rightfully rule the west.

King Charles couldn't even deal with a trumped up hussie with a confused Madonna/Mother Teresa complex

[benji]

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

uhm can we not say cunt? That's a little misogynistic and worse.. European.

[Potato]

Cunt

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Cum

[benji]

killamajig on notice:

[killamajig]

killamajig on notice:

Another curfew 8pm last night. Residents and people that work in those areas are exempt. 

Some more pics for everyone .We're on the steps of Los Angeles City Hall. I haven't been watching the news but vibe is mostly chill at these protests. People are handing out water and looking out for each other. We even had music and dancing .When we went on the move and marched we mostly kept to one side of traffic but would allow cars to slowly go along inside the group and they would play music and waving flags from Mexico to Guatemala. Unfortunately my old man arthritis is getting the better of me so I'm taking the day off today.






https://i.imgur.com/XwGIY16.mp4
https://i.imgur.com/lcBEEQ7.mp4
https://i.imgur.com/Qy2y0Ul.mp4

[Uncle]

from what I gathered, the first protests were targeted at locations where ICE was investigating people, but has that continued?

are ICE just doing whatever they want somewhere else while the protests are just kind of vaguely happening in specific public areas?

[killamajig]

from what I gathered, the first protests were targeted at locations where ICE was investigating people, but has that continued?

are ICE just doing whatever they want somewhere else while the protests are just kind of vaguely happening in specific public areas?

For the last 3 days most people just walk down to the federal buildings area. From there there's some black lives matter groups and other organizations that support Latinos etc. Yesterday, for example was slightly more structured. The police followed behind the groups to make sure nobody would ram into us and they could keep an eye on us. Lol. They blocked off access to the 101 the last two days. It seems as though they're trying to let people blow off some steam as long as they don't shut down major highways. 

Yesterday we assembled at the city hall and the speakers were even reminding people to stay off the road and stay on the sidewalk. But when we went to march the police allowed us. As long as we didn't go on the highway. 

And the police have put up tape around areas they don't want us to go. Federal buildings highways. The mood was keep it peaceful but keep coming back everyday and let everyone know what's going on. I'm not part of any particular group. I just come down to show my support and add to the numbers. 

There's tons of graffiti now and some smash windows and people are boarding up certain businesses. Yesterday we marched around and through Chinatown etc. As far as I know when we pass by some of the business owners looked a bit concerned and pulled their stuff inside. But most store owners just watched us pass holding their cell phones recording us go by.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

from what I gathered, the first protests were targeted at locations where ICE was investigating people, but has that continued?

are ICE just doing whatever they want somewhere else while the protests are just kind of vaguely happening in specific public areas?

I believe the first thing that happened over the weekend was people got word that ICE was at the federal courthouse and they blocked them from leaving with the people they grabbed.

But yes, ice is also just doing whatever they want else where.

[Tucker's Law]

from what I gathered, the first protests were targeted at locations where ICE was investigating people, but has that continued?

are ICE just doing whatever they want somewhere else while the protests are just kind of vaguely happening in specific public areas?

The initial ICE stuff was for serving warrants to a business being investigated for cartel stuff (money laundering, trafficking, etc), per Tom Homan (I think?).

No clue what other stuff ICE has started doing since then, especially once the useful idiots in manbuns started popping off for their "no kings" color revolution and whatever property destruction or vandalism may have occurred.

[killamajig]

I'm sure to no one's surprise that downtown LA situation is it's mostly peaceful with the minority wanting to smash shit. It ranges from anarchist types to homeless people just taking advantage of the situation, to you name it, false flag stuff trying to make the left look bad. 

Like a lot of news you could make your own narrative. I could just take pictures of people doing graffiti and looting aftermath. Or I could only post positive things. It's a combination of both but it's mostly people trying to be peaceful. But that's not going to get the attention of news watching audience. Nobody wants to film a bunch of people just dancing and holding signs. Boring.

[who is ted danson?]

its time for the new cali republic

WHERE'S THAT DAMN PLATINUM CHIP

[Uncle]

wow ONLY the minorities want to smash shit 

[benji]

its time for the new cali republic

RESTORE 👏 THE 👏 ORIGINAL 👏: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Republic

[Cauliflower Of Love]

from what I gathered, the first protests were targeted at locations where ICE was investigating people, but has that continued?

are ICE just doing whatever they want somewhere else while the protests are just kind of vaguely happening in specific public areas?

The initial ICE stuff was for serving warrants to a business being investigated for cartel stuff (money laundering, trafficking, etc), per Tom Homan (I think?).

No clue what other stuff ICE has started doing since then, especially once the useful idiots in manbuns started popping off for their "no kings" color revolution and whatever property destruction or vandalism may have occurred.

That was in MN

[benji]

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

I can't wait for the parade. 

[davepoobond]

how will they make their quotas now!

Steven Miller is feeling very betrayed right now.

[killamajig]

Fyi, we get Emergency Alerts on the phone less than an hour before it goes into effect.

At least residents and people that work here are exempt but I still have WI plates so I stay home (or walk) so I don't get hassled by The Man.



A little more time for the heads-up would be nice.

Edit

Only one pic today. Looks like there were unions joining in too. 

[Potato]

Mar-a-lago lost Trump's favourite chef to ICE?

[Tucker's Law]

from what I gathered, the first protests were targeted at locations where ICE was investigating people, but has that continued?

are ICE just doing whatever they want somewhere else while the protests are just kind of vaguely happening in specific public areas?

The initial ICE stuff was for serving warrants to a business being investigated for cartel stuff (money laundering, trafficking, etc), per Tom Homan (I think?).

No clue what other stuff ICE has started doing since then, especially once the useful idiots in manbuns started popping off for their "no kings" color revolution and whatever property destruction or vandalism may have occurred.

What was in MN

Minnesota?

[Cauliflower Of Love]

The initial ICE stuff was for serving warrants to a business being investigated for cartel stuff (money laundering, trafficking, etc), per Tom Homan (I think?).

No clue what other stuff ICE has started doing since then, especially once the useful idiots in manbuns started popping off for their "no kings" color revolution and whatever property destruction or vandalism may have occurred.

What was in MN

Minnesota?

The cartel raid happened in minnesota where they deployed every agency that has a task force.

[Tucker's Law]

What was in MN

Minnesota?

The cartel raid happened in minnesota where they deployed every agency that has a task force.

Ahhhh gotcha, thanks.

[Himu]

You were were asked what you meant, a mere declaration of terms and definitions, and you couldn't answer. Now you deflect, quoting a man that represented a Constitutional Monarchy in itself all while saying there was never an example of good monarchy. You also use the books of the victors of Democracies and Republics, who have all the incentive to defame monarchies as history is written by the victors. Yet monarchies were used for thousands of years and arguably is our default political system as humans. Monarchy is good and better for society.

I didn't answer because it's irrelevant, I'm asking you to supply the better monarchies. Yeah, duh, I think Westerners in liberal democracy are better off in every way than every society in human history, that's not the radical claim that needs somebody to do the effort to prove since it's obvious. And I knew from the start you'd decry every measure for some personal hangup you have about everyone needing to obey a violently imposed moral authority.

It's what your complaints have always been, that's why you jump from authoritarian ideology to authoritarian ideology, only to be disappointed and have to jump to a new one because they always and forever fail since what they try to offer is impossible.

Now you're running to the typical reactionary/leftist claim that all of human history is just false propaganda and you know the real truth from peering in the soul of the universe. And the cosmic truth is absolute state control of everything. Boring. 

If things are so great then why the high rates of depression? Why do so many feel aimless? Why the low birth rate? Why do people complain they can't even own a house? If it's better, why are people rioting every four years?

Monarchy is natural. Republics are unnatural. You've read Plato's Republic. You know the truth. You've read John Adams decimating Democracy as a limited form of government that needs the right keys.

Democracies and Republics are as probably as old as monarchies and yet time after time they sink to the bottom of the water like the most lofty of trash.

Yes, a monarchy is authoritarian and I relish in the fact it is. Look at the above. This land needs order. All this talk of individualism and freedom and muh rights. King George had less power than a modern President and USA scapegoated him as the problem when it was Parliament. King George himself supported the abolishment of slavery and many other reforms. He was far better and moral than our crowd of crooks known as the Founding Fathers.

"We had no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a The Roots of the Crisis net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

and

"Remember Democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes exhausts and murders itself. There never was a Democracy Yet, that did not commit suicide. It is in vain to Say that Democracy is less vain, less proud, less selfish, less ambitious or less avaricious than Aristocracy or Monarchy. It is not true in Fact and no where appears in history. Those Passions are the same in all Men under all forms of Simple Government, and when unchecked, produce the same Effects of Fraud Violence and Cruelty."

- John Adams

What, in these times, unites us? We live in okay times but you completely dismiss the benefits monarchy gave us, many of which these times lift from the direct fruits of monarchy.

For all of your victories look at how swift the veil of Republicanism falls, revealing a pale face of cronyism, oligarchy, Super PACs, lobbyists, and more. Yes, a king can be tempted to be led by outside interests but with Republics it's baked in. Look at how many rebellions there were in America alone within twenty years of its existence. Look at how every four years people protest because a President of the party they don't vote for got elected. Look at how your beautiful Republic descends into ashes where the most bare minimum legislation is deadlocked due to partyism.

Republics are a failed form of governance. Plato was correct: aristocracy and monarchy are the best form of governance.

As for your question, name me a President with the rigor and leadership of Baldwin IV, who, despite Leprosy and pain led his troops into battle, defeating an army of over 26,000 with a mere 375. Name me a President that can contend with King Louis IX: ascetic, defender of the poor, legal and administrative reformer, patron of the arts. Show me an American leader, outside of Washington (whom the people begged to be King), with this kind of rigor and love for his people.

Re-read Plato's Republic. You know it to be true.

[killamajig]

You were were asked what you meant, a mere declaration of terms and definitions, and you couldn't answer. Now you deflect, quoting a man that represented a Constitutional Monarchy in itself all while saying there was never an example of good monarchy. You also use the books of the victors of Democracies and Republics, who have all the incentive to defame monarchies as history is written by the victors. Yet monarchies were used for thousands of years and arguably is our default political system as humans. Monarchy is good and better for society.

I didn't answer because it's irrelevant, I'm asking you to supply the better monarchies. Yeah, duh, I think Westerners in liberal democracy are better off in every way than every society in human history, that's not the radical claim that needs somebody to do the effort to prove since it's obvious. And I knew from the start you'd decry every measure for some personal hangup you have about everyone needing to obey a violently imposed moral authority.

It's what your complaints have always been, that's why you jump from authoritarian ideology to authoritarian ideology, only to be disappointed and have to jump to a new one because they always and forever fail since what they try to offer is impossible.

Now you're running to the typical reactionary/leftist claim that all of human history is just false propaganda and you know the real truth from peering in the soul of the universe. And the cosmic truth is absolute state control of everything. Boring. 

If things are so great then why the high rates of depression? Why do so many feel aimless? Why the low birth rate? Why do people complain they can't even own a house? If it's better, why are people rioting every four years?

Monarchy is natural. Republics are unnatural. You've read Plato's Republic. You know the truth. You've read John Adams decimating Democracy as a limited form of government that needs the right keys.

Democracies and Republics are as probably as old as monarchies and yet time after time they sink to the bottom of the water like the most lofty of trash.

Yes, a monarchy is authoritarian and I relish in the fact it is. Look at the above. This land needs order. All this talk of individualism and freedom and muh rights. King George had less power than a modern President and USA scapegoated him as the problem when it was Parliament. King George himself supported the abolishment of slavery and many other reforms. He was far better and moral than our crowd of crooks known as the Founding Fathers.

"We had no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a The Roots of the Crisis net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

and

"Remember Democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes exhausts and murders itself. There never was a Democracy Yet, that did not commit suicide. It is in vain to Say that Democracy is less vain, less proud, less selfish, less ambitious or less avaricious than Aristocracy or Monarchy. It is not true in Fact and no where appears in history. Those Passions are the same in all Men under all forms of Simple Government, and when unchecked, produce the same Effects of Fraud Violence and Cruelty."

- John Adams

What, in these times, unites us? We live in okay times but you completely dismiss the benefits monarchy gave us, many of which these times lift from the direct fruits of monarchy.

For all of your victories look at how swift the veil of Republicanism falls, revealing a pale face of cronyism, oligarchy, Super PACs, lobbyists, and more. Yes, a king can be tempted to be led by outside interests but with Republics it's baked in. Look at how many rebellions there were in America alone within twenty years of its existence. Look at how every four years people protest because a President of the party they don't vote for got elected. Look at how your beautiful Republic descends into ashes where the most bare minimum legislation is deadlocked due to partyism.

Republics are a failed form of governance. Plato was correct: aristocracy and monarchy are the best form of governance.

As for your question, name me a President with the rigot and leadership of Baldwin IV, who, despite Leprosy and pain led his troops into battle, defeating an army of over 26,000 with a mere 375. Name me a President that can contend with King Louis IX: ascetic, defender of the poor, legal and administrative reformer, patron of the arts. Show me an American leader, outside of Washington (whom the people begged to be King), with this kind of rigor and love for his people.

Re-read Plato's Republic. You know it to be true.

As someone who actually took history courses in college with a focus on the Crusades, just your knowledge of Baldwin shows me you're stupid as hell. Go on Chief. Keep telling us what you know about the crusades. I have a direct paternal line to a famous crusader. This is going to be good. Keep going. Tell us about monarchies too and how great they are. Or is this some kind of comedy bit I don't know about? Some kind of fat4all for all character you're playing.

[Himu]

I didn't answer because it's irrelevant, I'm asking you to supply the better monarchies. Yeah, duh, I think Westerners in liberal democracy are better off in every way than every society in human history, that's not the radical claim that needs somebody to do the effort to prove since it's obvious. And I knew from the start you'd decry every measure for some personal hangup you have about everyone needing to obey a violently imposed moral authority.

It's what your complaints have always been, that's why you jump from authoritarian ideology to authoritarian ideology, only to be disappointed and have to jump to a new one because they always and forever fail since what they try to offer is impossible.

Now you're running to the typical reactionary/leftist claim that all of human history is just false propaganda and you know the real truth from peering in the soul of the universe. And the cosmic truth is absolute state control of everything. Boring. 

If things are so great then why the high rates of depression? Why do so many feel aimless? Why the low birth rate? Why do people complain they can't even own a house? If it's better, why are people rioting every four years?

Monarchy is natural. Republics are unnatural. You've read Plato's Republic. You know the truth. You've read John Adams decimating Democracy as a limited form of government that needs the right keys.

Democracies and Republics are as probably as old as monarchies and yet time after time they sink to the bottom of the water like the most lofty of trash.

Yes, a monarchy is authoritarian and I relish in the fact it is. Look at the above. This land needs order. All this talk of individualism and freedom and muh rights. King George had less power than a modern President and USA scapegoated him as the problem when it was Parliament. King George himself supported the abolishment of slavery and many other reforms. He was far better and moral than our crowd of crooks known as the Founding Fathers.

"We had no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a The Roots of the Crisis net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

and

"Remember Democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes exhausts and murders itself. There never was a Democracy Yet, that did not commit suicide. It is in vain to Say that Democracy is less vain, less proud, less selfish, less ambitious or less avaricious than Aristocracy or Monarchy. It is not true in Fact and no where appears in history. Those Passions are the same in all Men under all forms of Simple Government, and when unchecked, produce the same Effects of Fraud Violence and Cruelty."

- John Adams

What, in these times, unites us? We live in okay times but you completely dismiss the benefits monarchy gave us, many of which these times lift from the direct fruits of monarchy.

For all of your victories look at how swift the veil of Republicanism falls, revealing a pale face of cronyism, oligarchy, Super PACs, lobbyists, and more. Yes, a king can be tempted to be led by outside interests but with Republics it's baked in. Look at how many rebellions there were in America alone within twenty years of its existence. Look at how every four years people protest because a President of the party they don't vote for got elected. Look at how your beautiful Republic descends into ashes where the most bare minimum legislation is deadlocked due to partyism.

Republics are a failed form of governance. Plato was correct: aristocracy and monarchy are the best form of governance.

As for your question, name me a President with the rigot and leadership of Baldwin IV, who, despite Leprosy and pain led his troops into battle, defeating an army of over 26,000 with a mere 375. Name me a President that can contend with King Louis IX: ascetic, defender of the poor, legal and administrative reformer, patron of the arts. Show me an American leader, outside of Washington (whom the people begged to be King), with this kind of rigor and love for his people.

Re-read Plato's Republic. You know it to be true.

As someone who actually took history courses in college with a focus on the Crusades, just your knowledge of Baldwin shows me you're stupid as hell. Go on Chief. Keep telling us what you know about the crusades. I have a direct paternal line to a famous crusader. This is going to be good. Keep going. Tell us about monarchies too and how great they are. Or is this some kind of comedy bit I don't know about? Some kind of fat4all for all character you're playing.

Just because you say something doesn't make it true. Baldwin IV is widely regarded by his contemporaries and later historians.

He's widely regarded for his courage, faith, and leadership in the face of disease and adversity.

Pray tell, what makes me "stupid as hell" for citing him?

[killamajig]

Monarchy is natural.

There's one, do you need more?

[Potato]

It's himu dude. He'll be a convert of some other weird religion/political/gender/philosophical cult in about a month.

Hopefully it's one of the good ones and we can talk to him again like a normal person for a while.