Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 1)

[Boredfrom]

Some assholes at TransEra claimed that hormones changed your DNA.

[Taco Bell Tower]

You’ll never guess which wife buyer is trying to build up his dossier in community

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I saw that recently locked thread about SkillUp's new video, and was recommended to bring it up here to relitigate SkillUp as a banned source. Tbh I haven't followed his work ever since he ran an anti-SJW channel with his brother, but some people in that thread said he seems fairly progressive (because of the company he keeps?), but I guess wanted to continue the conversation here. Someone even said he's one of the best independent gaming journalists? I wasn't aware he was anything more than a content creator? Does he have any journalism experience?

Perhaps the people who are calling for him to be unbanned could post some evidence of him taking ownership or apologising for his previous content? That would seem like a reasonable place to start.

Yeah, that's what I would like to know as well.
Unless you clearly distance yourself from your past which, if you really regret what you did or what company you kept, shouldn't even be that hard, I find it hard to take your turn serious. So I'm curious if they have talked about that.

Yeah, I haven't seen evidence that he's progressive, so I agree with proof being required.

I’d argue that there’s 5 years of videos of quality respectful content that should be enough. I could understand if it’s a difficult decision to publicly denounce your own family, he has to live with that in his personal life.

Whatever his personal politics are, I’ve seen none of that anti-SJW in the SkillUp channel, I’d argue that his acceptance by the rest of the industry should be enough (if you take a look at the Friends Per Second podcast guest list).

The podcast handled the Completionist situation as well as could be given the circumstances too(he was a co-host of the podcast, and left or asked to leave after that scandal).

His review videos would particularly be beneficial to the discussions around here, they typically show a lot of nuanced discussions about game design that can be lacking in other reviews.

The company he keeps doesn't necessarily tell if he's progressive. Joe Rogan has all kinds of people on his podcast, doesn't stop him from becoming a raging bigot. Did he ever denounce their channel together or disavow from brother's politics?

I don’t know to be perfectly honest, someone else here might know if he said something in the earlier podcasts.

I’m not sure what the specific criteria is around here for banning, I don’t personally expect the content creators/developers/industry professionals to all be of upstanding moral character, I’m sure many of my favourite games’s creators aren’t amazing people in reality(exceptions made though for the JK Rowling of the world, they shouldn’t be given a platform).

From what I gathered from other banned sources like Colin Moriarty, was that the major problem was that any discussion involving this persons’ content became toxic quickly, so the decision was to ban them. Am I correct that this is the main criteria for a ban?

What? No, Colin is banned because he's a right wing douchebag who literally used "Don't tread on me" as his profile picture on socials for years.

You aren't owed forgiveness or a second chance if you never apologize for the thing that made you a jerk (or worse) in the first place. In fact, it's even worse if you don't apologize, because then it actively looks like you don't care/know your fans will not care anyways.

Also, being friends with people isn't exactly a ringing endorsement either, people like ItmeJP are all over other content creators networks and podcasts, including his own with Cohh Carnage, and he's (JP) been accused of sexual harassment and grooming.

People within the video game influencer space aren't exactly the best judge of character.

It would also be handy to see examples of why he's actually banned here  rather than vague reasons since there's still no official public list of banned media personalities on Era. Every time he is brought up in a review thread or wherever no one ever provided evidence of what he's actually done other than "yikes, SkillUp oof"

Agree I've yet to see good evidence for his content ban. It's just "he was on a chud channel years ago" guilt by association despite him not doing that for years (and no-one bringing up any actual statement of support he made, not to mention said channel being his literal brother likely makes things more complicated than it would be otherwise) and then bitch eating crackers bad faith readings of pretty ordinary things he's said more recently. While rarely "political", the times I've seen him go into anything touching on it in the last several years he's seemed pretty progressive or liberal at worst. So in the worst case it seems reasonable to assume that he was worse in the past and then got better, unless there's actual examples of him being a chud in the last few years (and I'm fine with him being on thin ice if something does happen like that).

Every other content ban I've seen is easily justified because examples of them being trash are super easy to find or they have a whole list of stuff (just see the Colin Moriarty stuff here). With SkillUp it's always just vague statements of things from years ago with no actual examples.

That first line is him seriously being all 

[simiansmarts]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/pierced-ears-era-what-made-you-do-it.1223550/

Hey Era, how ya doin'? You okay? Do you want to talk about ears?

The TL/DR is that I'm trans and 9 months into my transition. I'm 36, cis-man presenting, and I have never pierced my ears. That changes tomorrow! Very exciting. Very cool. Going to a tattoo shop to have it done, which will also be my first time in a tattoo shop.

I'm kinda freaking out?

The thing is, I'm not worried about the pain. After six rounds of laser hair removal, I can tank some pain on my face and head. I'm more hung up on ... shoving a needle through me to put a hole for aesthetic purposes. I don't know why. Something about it just kind of makes me cringe. And I know if I let the hole be, it will close up. This isn't even that permanent. And and! God forbid I'm this deep into hrt--I'm already changing my body in big ways that maybe aren't exactly "natural" without outside intervention. I got no problems with that. What are a few holes in my ears when compared to having hips now?

So to alleviate my worries, and because I'm actually curious: What made y'all pierce your ears? For me it's 100% chasing gender euphoria. I know plenty of cis men with their ears pierced, yet my lizard brain codes it as a very feminine thing to do, and I'm chasing those feelings with gusto. They make me happy.

What about you? And those with gauged ears can chime in too. Those things are neat. I'd never have it done, but i can't lie that they aren't cool.

Takes hormones without a second thought but getting ears pierced is scary. 

Not a mental illness.

 
I'm so goddamn befuddled by the thought-process that makes someone go "I have lived 35+ years as a man but now I feel like a woman so I'm going to take hormones that will upend every part of my life." 


 
And you just know most of these people end up looking like Chris-Chan irl.

[killamajig]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/pierced-ears-era-what-made-you-do-it.1223550/

Takes hormones without a second thought but getting ears pierced is scary. 

Not a metal illness.

An aside. Youths these days are all trying to look like Rob Lowe in St Elmo’s Fire and George Michael with the single dangling earring. Everything is cyclical. Invest in jnco jeans…?

Back in my day you had to pierce only the left ear otherwise you were gay. 

[Bootsthecat]

Buddy, do watever
Piercings, hormones, dresses, wigs, granny glasses. If you don't pass as a woman now at 35, it's not happening no matter what you do. L the fuck oh el retard

[Shecky Fragbaum]

When they have nothing on you they gotta try and manufacture dissent.

I remember when Christchurch mosque shooting happened and I went to Skill Up twitter and the only tweet that I found about it was in defense of Pewdiepie/kjellberg.

Obviously Pewdiepie didn't do that horrible shooting but the fact that Skill Up needed to defend him was very off putting and I don't remember seeing anything else he wrote about it only in defense of Pewdiepie. Who knows maybe I've missed it.

Well, Skill Up?! Was the shooting a BAD THING or nah? Oh I see you must love the fucking shooting, just sitting over there with your mute enthusiasm. I always knew he wasn't shit >:(

[killamajig]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/an-untouched-original-print-of-star-wars-a-new-hope-was-screened-for-the-first-time-in-decades-but-people-were-a-bit-mixed-on-it.1223340/page-4#post-141782097

My wife and others i shown the OT to all preferred New Hope over the rest and i was shocked. Funny enough all the females found Han Solo to be creepy

[HaughtyFrank]

Yeah, definitely, good job exposing weaknesses in our armed forces that Russians definitely won't take advantage of.

Honestly, maybe it is a good thing so now it can be reviewed and strengthened.

Why are you obsessed with Russia? I'm obsessed with our country aiding and abetting a livestreamed genocide, and being complicit with war crimes. Good lord.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/pro-palestinian-activists-on-scooters-attack-uk-military-aircrafts-after-breaking-into-air-base-undetected.1223934/post-141750588

[HaughtyFrank]

When they have nothing on you they gotta try and manufacture dissent.

I remember when Christchurch mosque shooting happened and I went to Skill Up twitter and the only tweet that I found about it was in defense of Pewdiepie/kjellberg.

Obviously Pewdiepie didn't do that horrible shooting but the fact that Skill Up needed to defend him was very off putting and I don't remember seeing anything else he wrote about it only in defense of Pewdiepie. Who knows maybe I've missed it.

Well, Skill Up?! Was the shooting a BAD THING or nah? Oh I see you must love the fucking shooting, just sitting over there with your mute enthusiasm. I always knew he wasn't shit >:(

I remember when Christchurch mosque shooting happened and I went to Skill Up twitter

This sentence alone kills me

[Snoopy]

Visawife is a literal retard

This is the risk protesters are willing to take, as the UK becomes increasingly anti-protest in its recent laws. They should be commended even more for sacrificing and putting their lives on the line.

Sacrificing and putting their lives on the line



If they ever get caught the most they'll get is a small fine.

[DavidCroquet]

Wait, pewdiepie is the christchurch shooter? huge if true!

[Taco Bell Tower]

Yeah, definitely, good job exposing weaknesses in our armed forces that Russians definitely won't take advantage of.

Honestly, maybe it is a good thing so now it can be reviewed and strengthened.

Why are you obsessed with Russia? I'm obsessed with our country aiding and abetting a livestreamed genocide, and being complicit with war crimes. Good lord.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/pro-palestinian-activists-on-scooters-attack-uk-military-aircrafts-after-breaking-into-air-base-undetected.1223934/post-141750588

Messo rn to Pankratous

[TylenolJones]

Do we have a Zeo signal?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/thor-love-and-thunder-is-the-worst-marvel-film-ever-made.1224849/

[ClothedMac]

You’ll never guess which wife buyer is trying to build up his dossier in community

The company he keeps doesn't necessarily tell if he's progressive. Joe Rogan has all kinds of people on his podcast, doesn't stop him from becoming a raging bigot. Did he ever denounce their channel together or disavow from brother's politics?

Just because he hangs out with progressives now proves nothing.  But, the fact that he hung out with Chuds then tells me everything.

Does he and his wife even get to hang out without with other couples?  He must be dictating who she can hang out with, what movies she can watch, what literature she can read.  Since middle school I was taught to look for these signs in the relationships of friends and family.

[ClothedMac]

I know - it doesn't make sense.  Instead of herself, she must be talking about all black people, I guess?  In which case, why?  Why would you inherit the world's problems, and decide to speak for all black people on earth, when you work at fucking Walgreens.  Fix your life first, put your own house in order first (after you fucking get your own), then worry about transposing yourself in the body of an entire race of people and draping yourself in their collective burdens like you're Black Jesus.

Why?  Because she does more work than anyone else to "fight it."  She's also the most educated on the subject.  

And this third reason.




How many of these are actions Nepenthe displays on the forum?

[Shecky Fragbaum]

I know - it doesn't make sense.  Instead of herself, she must be talking about all black people, I guess?  In which case, why?  Why would you inherit the world's problems, and decide to speak for all black people on earth, when you work at fucking Walgreens.  Fix your life first, put your own house in order first (after you fucking get your own), then worry about transposing yourself in the body of an entire race of people and draping yourself in their collective burdens like you're Black Jesus.

Why?  Because she does more work than anyone else to "fight it."  She's also the most educated on the subject.  

And this third reason.




How many of these are actions Nepenthe displays on the forum?

God damn.

[Potato]

Visawife is a literal retard

This is the risk protesters are willing to take, as the UK becomes increasingly anti-protest in its recent laws. They should be commended even more for sacrificing and putting their lives on the line.

Sacrificing and putting their lives on the line



If they ever get caught the most they'll get is a small fine.

Why doesn't he acknowledge that the country they're protesting for actually outlaws protests and secret police abduct, rape and murder protest organisers?

[Potato]

Do we have a Zeo signal?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/thor-love-and-thunder-is-the-worst-marvel-film-ever-made.1224849/

OP really needs to watch phase 1 and 2 again. There's some real stinkers there...

[BIONIC]

You’ll never guess which wife buyer is trying to build up his dossier in community

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I saw that recently locked thread about SkillUp's new video, and was recommended to bring it up here to relitigate SkillUp as a banned source. Tbh I haven't followed his work ever since he ran an anti-SJW channel with his brother, but some people in that thread said he seems fairly progressive (because of the company he keeps?), but I guess wanted to continue the conversation here. Someone even said he's one of the best independent gaming journalists? I wasn't aware he was anything more than a content creator? Does he have any journalism experience?

Perhaps the people who are calling for him to be unbanned could post some evidence of him taking ownership or apologising for his previous content? That would seem like a reasonable place to start.

Yeah, that's what I would like to know as well.
Unless you clearly distance yourself from your past which, if you really regret what you did or what company you kept, shouldn't even be that hard, I find it hard to take your turn serious. So I'm curious if they have talked about that.

Yeah, I haven't seen evidence that he's progressive, so I agree with proof being required.

I’d argue that there’s 5 years of videos of quality respectful content that should be enough. I could understand if it’s a difficult decision to publicly denounce your own family, he has to live with that in his personal life.

Whatever his personal politics are, I’ve seen none of that anti-SJW in the SkillUp channel, I’d argue that his acceptance by the rest of the industry should be enough (if you take a look at the Friends Per Second podcast guest list).

The podcast handled the Completionist situation as well as could be given the circumstances too(he was a co-host of the podcast, and left or asked to leave after that scandal).

His review videos would particularly be beneficial to the discussions around here, they typically show a lot of nuanced discussions about game design that can be lacking in other reviews.

The company he keeps doesn't necessarily tell if he's progressive. Joe Rogan has all kinds of people on his podcast, doesn't stop him from becoming a raging bigot. Did he ever denounce their channel together or disavow from brother's politics?

I don’t know to be perfectly honest, someone else here might know if he said something in the earlier podcasts.

I’m not sure what the specific criteria is around here for banning, I don’t personally expect the content creators/developers/industry professionals to all be of upstanding moral character, I’m sure many of my favourite games’s creators aren’t amazing people in reality(exceptions made though for the JK Rowling of the world, they shouldn’t be given a platform).

From what I gathered from other banned sources like Colin Moriarty, was that the major problem was that any discussion involving this persons’ content became toxic quickly, so the decision was to ban them. Am I correct that this is the main criteria for a ban?

What? No, Colin is banned because he's a right wing douchebag who literally used "Don't tread on me" as his profile picture on socials for years.

You aren't owed forgiveness or a second chance if you never apologize for the thing that made you a jerk (or worse) in the first place. In fact, it's even worse if you don't apologize, because then it actively looks like you don't care/know your fans will not care anyways.

Also, being friends with people isn't exactly a ringing endorsement either, people like ItmeJP are all over other content creators networks and podcasts, including his own with Cohh Carnage, and he's (JP) been accused of sexual harassment and grooming.

People within the video game influencer space aren't exactly the best judge of character.

It would also be handy to see examples of why he's actually banned here rather than vague reasons since there's still no official public list of banned media personalities on Era. Every time he is brought up in a review thread or wherever no one ever provided evidence of what he's actually done other than "yikes, SkillUp oof"

Agree I've yet to see good evidence for his content ban. It's just "he was on a chud channel years ago" guilt by association despite him not doing that for years (and no-one bringing up any actual statement of support he made, not to mention said channel being his literal brother likely makes things more complicated than it would be otherwise) and then bitch eating crackers bad faith readings of pretty ordinary things he's said more recently. While rarely "political", the times I've seen him go into anything touching on it in the last several years he's seemed pretty progressive or liberal at worst. So in the worst case it seems reasonable to assume that he was worse in the past and then got better, unless there's actual examples of him being a chud in the last few years (and I'm fine with him being on thin ice if something does happen like that).

Every other content ban I've seen is easily justified because examples of them being trash are super easy to find or they have a whole list of stuff (just see the Colin Moriarty stuff here). With SkillUp it's always just vague statements of things from years ago with no actual examples.

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There have been plenty of times in the past where I've wanted to share a video or a Tweet or whatever and I'll do like 2-3 minutes of cursory research on the person and then I'm still like "hmmmmmmmm, I don't know but fuck it, send it". I'm sure I've even had leading text preemptively apologizing if I posted somebody problematic with some posts. I have no idea how people keep track of every problematic social media account.

And don't get me wrong, it's very helpful when people pop into a thread instantly to inform everyone that the account is a piece of shit, but often times the OP or whoever posted it is just sort like "whoops, didn't know".

So is the only real basis for a source being banned their politics then? Cause every new hardware cycle we get dozens of threads which source from MLiD's butt, which aren't worth the pixels they're printed on

Considering Dunkey videos are allowed here I'm not sure what skillup has done in the past that's considered worse. Both seem to have matured completely out of it.

Skillup’s content has been great the past couple of years. I just accept that he’s a banned source and try not to link to it. It’s obvious why Colin is banned, but it’s not immediately apparent to me watching skillup why he is.

If there’s a mod that could weigh in it’d be great to hear their verdict. For me it comes down to one simple thing:

Being allowed to discuss their content would be beneficial to discussion on this site.

If this resulted in toxic behaviour and derailing of their threads I could understand having to reverse it, but I think it’s worth giving a go.

Any transparency around the banned sources and criteria for banning would be appreciated too.

Is there a publicly accessible list? Why not make it easier for both users and mods?

No idea who SkillUp is, so I don't have a dog in this fight. But the litmus test for banning and unbanning is sometimes a vague bar to clear. So yeah, more transparency would be a good thing.

I think instead of focusing on Skill Up it'd be helpful to have some transparency and structure around re-evaluating banned list of content creators and media outlets periodically. Having to evaluate a certain individual or group on a case-by-case basis introduces a lot of bias, favoritism, and subjectivity especially when it's ultimately at the discretion of the admin team. I'm all for the admin team not giving a large platform of heinous, problematic individuals or groups on this forum considering how ResetEra still holds a great amount of influence in the industry. However, once we blacklist them, there should be a statute of limitations that ultimately re-evalutes them at a later point in time. If there was a 1.) a publicly available list of blacklisted influencers/creators/groups, 2.) a transparent process and documentation on what ultimately led to the ban and 3.) a structured process on removing them from the ban after a set period of time, it can be really healthy for the forum.

Specifically for SkillUp, he had a lot of problematic elements in the early-ish part of his career when it was booming and I would imagine he probably regrets that part of his career (assuming he actually feels that). However, the reality is that, like 99% of influencers/content creators/groups, they won't publicly apologize because it honestly puts their career in jeapordy. We even meme on people who make publicly apologies because 99% of the time it's fake an insincere. I think the reality is that if the majority of these people or group are not going to give a public apology then they will forever be on the banlist. I'm also of the opinion that actions speak louder than words. I don't religiously follow SkillUp but I do watch his content from time to time and I have not seen any of the problematic elements that he was guilty of in the past few years. Sometimes I feel like the forum goes too far in vindictiveness and once a person is guilty, they are guilty for life. I would like to consider a possibility of change and redemption. It's like when people trudged up a tweet that James Gunn one time. Who he was long time ago is different from who he is now.

That's ultimately my two cents. I think the first paragraph is obviously more important since it provides some tangible ideas on how to approach this topic.

I believe in the past they spoke on this being intentional, something along the lines of a visible list being easy to abuse by those on and off of Era.

As such the vagueness, where as a result you may stumble onto learning that someone/something is banned appears to be by design. The only exceptions from what I can tell is a small list of NSFW games or so that were bad enough to get on their radar in the first place, and can't be defended/debated without looking sus.

How would they be abused? I'm trying to think of a method but maybe I'm just not imaginative to think of how that list would be abused on and off Era.

I was about to give my thoughts but you pretty much outlined them here verbatim. Well said and I agree.



I'm not sure what abuse would come from it either. The only realistic thing I can think of is that a banned creator with a decent-sized following could make it known and thus their fanbase would come here and stir up trouble. But even then, this site requires registration to post so they'd either have to already be here, or there'd be a sudden mass registration which I'd imagine would be easy to catch and just... not approve. As far as people here abusing it, I really can't think of any scenario where they could.

Why not just make a potential ban list members only like this thread? It's really only relevant to people who post here anyway and that mostly removes the concern of outside parties using it for something nefarious.

I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with it, just that that's their logic from what I can recall the last time the topic was brought up and got an answer. But it has been a minute, so I'll leave it to them to refresh our memories.

If I had to guess, we already see people very ready to go full whataboutism on what deserves to be banned or not, so I guess keeping it vague makes it harder to someone to analyze it all and make an even bigger fuss. So maybe it's more work from our perspective, but from theirs it still beats having to deal with an even more pronounced neverending meta discussion on what's fair to ban or not.

For off-site, I dunno, I guess knowing for a fact someone is on a banned list could to people (or the person's followers maybe?) having more incentive to start trouble, idk

It's a bit of a coincidence that this conversation is happening now. I had no idea who Skill Up was until yesterday. Not because of this conversation but because he had just come up in a Dragon Age thread where people were questioning his intention behind saying the writing was like "HR was in the room". I didn't realize the comment had originated from him and seeing the reaction some had, I did some digging.

For people asking why he was banned and saying it's all just vague hearsay, I think this is the basic general idea.

In the late 2010s Skill Up had a youtube channel with his brother where they made very low effort "sit on a couch and complain about stuff" videos. Please note I did not watch a lot of this content, I skimmed some of the more egregious videos that came up, but they definitely seemed to be doing some sort of... appeal to anti-woke crowds while remaining as vaguely centrist as possible shtick. To be clear, in my research I did not find anything overwhelming egregious. I could have missed something but as far as I could tell he never like... dropped casual slurs or harassed anyone or anything like that. But they definitely made jokes in the direction of like "well i am a WHITE MALE" and you can kinda get the general idea of what they were going for from that.

I think what ultimately got them banned from here (and anyone else who was actually around or involved, please correct me if I got this wrong) was their defense of PewDiePie. It seemed like every time PewDiePie would get into controversy, no matter what that controversy was, they would rush to his defense and downplay it. Again, they always seemed to try taking the middle road from what I could see but the fact they did it every time is kinda telling. Like, apparently PewDiePie had a controversy where he linked an essay channel that made antisemitic jokes. Their response was "well, you could say those jokes might be antisemitic, but PewDiePie obviously didn't see those jokes, he just liked the anime review", and so on. But since that kept happening, combined with some of their anti-woke thumbnails and comments, I think led to them just being blanket banned on here. Also he would apparently talk shit about Era on Twitter, even before he was banned here. Make of that whatever you will.

Note that I have no opinion in the matter whatsoever, this was mostly just me doing some midnight searching last night after I made this post. lol
I'll leave the discussion on if he deserved the ban or has changed enough to deserve being unbanned up to people more passionate about it. Just figured I'd chime in since I saw people saying nobody knew WHY he was banned and I had just happened to look into that.

That being said, I did want to comment on this as well:


This is completely unconnected to the SkillUp issue, just speaking directly to this idea.

... I don't think I agree with that because we have multiple examples of content creators who have done this more directly and much better. I can agree that in some ways actions speak louder than words, but I also think actions AND words together are the best way to do it. Apologize and then show your change. Just as a random example, I think Mega64 is worth mentioning in this context. Mega64 started during the EARLY internet and they were very young and very edgy back then. If Era had been around back then, Mega64 would absolutely have been banned. They casually dropped homophobic slurs, made very ableist jokes, some of them made very transphobic comments on a podcast once, and just about every other thing you can think gamer bros in their early 20s back in the 2000s would have said or done.

But nobody here really gives them shit for it because they have done just about everything right they needed to do regarding it:
- Numerous apologies anytime it has come up. You can find anything from written apologies for the transphobic comments to them randomly mentioning on livestreams how much they regret their casual use of slurs back in the day, and so on
- They took down a lot of old videos that went too far. Or muted the slurs in ones they could salvage.
- They didn't just stop doing it, they took their content in the opposite direction. Especially in the late 2010s and early 2020s, they made their statements on just about every issue very clearly left-leaning.

Don't get me wrong. I agree with your position here. In an ideal world I think this is what we should expect from every single type of content creator (individual or otherwise) out there. However, the reality is that Mega64 and the few like them are more of the exception, and not the norm. It's why I made the comment that I did earlier that 99% do not fall into this bubble. If our stance is that if someone fucks up and they are irredeemable in the eyes of the administration team unless they put out a public apology then so be it. I just think that this means that 99% of groups are damned and we should be much stricter about who or what group ultimately passes a "purity test." (I say purity test because I genuinely can't think of a better and tamer phrase off the top of my head.) Regardless, I think my point stands that there should be more transparency and structure around what deems an appeal from users for an individual/group to be unbanned. If it's a list of actions like "public apology, remove all associated videos, etc, etc." then I would like that explicitly stated. As it stands now, it's all subjective and introduces bias. That's all.

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/skill-up-just-posted-an-almost-2-hour-long-documentary-about-the-development-of-expedition-33.1224687/

Inmates trying to fight back

Hurr hurr Dino Crisis mod

Locking this thread as SkillUp is on the "Banned" list. You can ask about that potentially being changed via the "Constructive Community Discussion" thread.

Weird how the Banned List isn't public. Would save mods some work if people knew the "banned" sources they're not supposed to post.

Imagine putting staff in danger in the middle of a genocide in the middle of 2025 during the middle of pride month of all months.

edit: Literal stochastic terrorists right on cue:

Is there a publicly accessible list? Why not make it easier for both users and mods?

I think instead of focusing on Skill Up it'd be helpful to have some transparency and structure around re-evaluating banned list of content creators and media outlets periodically.

How would they be abused? I'm trying to think of a method but maybe I'm just not imaginative to think of how that list would be abused on and off Era.

I'm not sure what abuse would come from it either. The only realistic thing I can think of is that a banned creator with a decent-sized following could make it known and thus their fanbase would come here and stir up trouble. But even then, this site requires registration to post so they'd either have to already be here, or there'd be a sudden mass registration which I'd imagine would be easy to catch and just... not approve. As far as people here abusing it, I really can't think of any scenario where they could.

If I had to guess, we already see people very ready to go full whataboutism on what deserves to be banned or not, so I guess keeping it vague makes it harder to someone to analyze it all and make an even bigger fuss. So maybe it's more work from our perspective, but from theirs it still beats having to deal with an even more pronounced neverending meta discussion on what's fair to ban or not.

For off-site, I dunno, I guess knowing for a fact someone is on a banned list could to people (or the person's followers maybe?) having more incentive to start trouble, idk

Regardless, I think my point stands that there should be more transparency and structure around what deems an appeal from users for an individual/group to be unbanned. If it's a list of actions like "public apology, remove all associated videos, etc, etc." then I would like that explicitly stated. As it stands now, it's all subjective and introduces bias. That's all.

[Besticus Maximus]

So maybe it's more work from our perspective, but from theirs it still beats having to deal with an even more pronounced neverending meta discussion on what's fair to ban or not.

Yeah right? That would be a terrible thing for everyone. Just imagine what this situation might be like, if it existed in the real digital world around us. Shocking, unthinkable.

[benji]

How many of these are actions Nepenthe displays on the forum?

Naw, it cause y'all aren't putting in the work to grow up, read the theory and start organizing to be serious people by rewriting society from scratch and eliminating my debts. Y'all so focused on my tone instead of getting low cost therapy and eliminating capitalism, colonialism and white supremacy or at least sabotaging fossil fuel infrastructure. Sounds about white. (Why would you think that last part is about you? It's not, unless you're white or white adjacent and therefore complicit.)

[DavidCroquet]

I'm pretty sure the mods specifically said the Abuse that would come from The List would be like...literally, The Bire, pointing at Colin Moriarty's name next to the infraction "used a 'don't tread on me' PFP on twitter in 2018" with this expression:

 

[imsotired]

I know - it doesn't make sense.  Instead of herself, she must be talking about all black people, I guess?  In which case, why?  Why would you inherit the world's problems, and decide to speak for all black people on earth, when you work at fucking Walgreens.  Fix your life first, put your own house in order first (after you fucking get your own), then worry about transposing yourself in the body of an entire race of people and draping yourself in their collective burdens like you're Black Jesus.

Why?  Because she does more work than anyone else to "fight it."  She's also the most educated on the subject.  

And this third reason.




How many of these are actions Nepenthe displays on the forum?

She's also just conventionally stupid. Even beyond the egotism her ideas are just incoherent at best.   She repeats phrases she's heard elsewhere and doesn't connect them into concepts that actually make sense.  It's not any different from talking to a rightwing conspiracy theorist.

[Snoopy]

[Boredfrom]

evil always wins it seems

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for everyone else to be fucking worthless dumbfucks

 

But hey, that dude with a hat got his game cancelled.  

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-us-trump-has-just-bombed-iran.1225005/page-2#post-141793602

[Boredfrom]

This son of a bitch...

We're going to have another 9/11 all because this fat fascist fuck wants to be a popular wartime president with high approval numbers.

Fuck him, fuck the administration, fuck everyone that voted for him, and everyone who could have voted for Kamala but sat out.

 Victim blaming?

[Boredfrom]

I wonder why they say "Death to America" tho /s

You can draw a straight line from Biden's refusal to reign in Israel's bloodlust in Gaza to here. We can't predict what will happen next, but you can count on untold amount of suffering and death.

“Go Go Iran.”

Fuck off. Iran did absolutely nothing to warrant this. There is absolutely 0 proof that they were building a nuclear bomb. And frankly, even if they were, they'd be justified in doing so. History has shown time and time again that the best way to safeguard your country is by having a nuke.

No. FUCK YOU.

Iran has done a lot of shit and a bigger blight in the region than Israel will ever be. 

STOP FUCKING PRETENDING IRAN DIDNT DO AWFUL SHIT YOU FUCKS! 

You want a better government and a better world? Stop seeing the world as “Good vs Evil”.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-us-trump-has-just-bombed-iran.1225005/page-2#post-141793950

[DavidCroquet]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-us-trump-has-just-bombed-iran.1225005/page-3#post-141794175

Iran will now fully pursue a nuke now. Any restraint they made have had is gone now because of this.

Now that their nuclear experts have been killed, their nuclear facilities have been damaged or destroyed, and their research set back who knows how far, nothing can stop them!

[Boredfrom]

Any restraint..

 

No, Trump did indeed a stupid but let’s not ignore Iran role on this conflict.