Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 1)

[Daffy Duck]

Visawife's working hard in the discords -

You can just say you're happily married without bringing this stuff up again lol. Completely unprompted this time, too.

As for the topic, no.

Not really sure what the anti-therapy angle OP is pushing is about, but surely you have to be able to understand that different things work for different people. I'm glad you two found something that worked better for you than therapy but suggesting nobody should go to therapy and that it's inherently toxic is dangerously childish and naive. Therapy has saved many lives and there's a lot of people that need it. You tried it and it wasn't for you but that's only true of YOU. I'm sure you wouldn't want to be the person who convinces someone else to not go to therapy when it could have made THEIR life much better. Please be a bit more careful about your wording on such a sensitive issue.

Is this just yet another thread for you to shoehorn in an instruction for people not to engage in therapy?

Yeah , your anti-therapy stance is dumb as fuck OP.

Link?

[Propagandhim]

Oh brother.  It can speed up a localizers job so they have more time to add that 'humanity' and nuance to the parts that need that care.  And if they don't the game is worse for it.  Why do these people think in black and white so often.  "Oh well, there's a tool that can help me do more work...that means the tool does everything and humans are out of the picture, even if the work it does is shit we have to ship it!  That's just how it is now, humans are done and we just make garbage now!  They're completely obsolete!"

Many companies and scumbags localizers just use the first draft of the translation and copy paste it. That is the issue people have with it. The fact that is pretty noticeable when this happens in translations over others uses of GenAI is why people hated it with passion in those instances.

Yeah but my point wasn't that it was impossible to produce garbage with AI, but that it speeds up work to facilitate and free the developer to produce quality material if people care to make quality.  If most companies produce shit with AI, people will know it's shit and it will be an inferior product.  The ability for the consumer to discern what is shit and what isn't, doesn't just disappear with the use of genAI.

[Daffy Duck]

lol they are angry

Wait, why is there a user here named Copilot with a Copilot PFP who's shilling fucking Microsoft Copilot?

What the fuck is going on?

I can't believe there's so many people in here defending IA….

Theres a defense force for everything.

My God, give over. AI is a useful tool, I work in tech and we’ve recently embraced it with being given access to enterprise GitHub which has Copilot, it’s very helpful for doing little menial tasks, I really don’t get their disdain for it, I’m guessing most just don’t have any personal experience with it and just think “it’s taking our jobs”

[Eric Cartman]

Oh brother.  It can speed up a localizers job so they have more time to add that 'humanity' and nuance to the parts that need that care.  And if they don't the game is worse for it.  Why do these people think in black and white so often.  "Oh well, there's a tool that can help me do more work...that means the tool does everything and humans are out of the picture, even if the work it does is shit we have to ship it!  That's just how it is now, humans are done and we just make garbage now!  They're completely obsolete!"

Many companies and scumbags localizers just use the first draft of the translation and copy paste it. That is the issue people have with it. The fact that is pretty noticeable when this happens in translations over others uses of GenAI is why people hated it with passion in those instances.

I mean... When I was a kid and Japan were the people making the good games, with US stuff being mostly licensed trash and UK stuff being weird computer only fever dreams I'd often buy grey market JP console second hand unboxed cartridges entirely in moon language and it would be a crapshoot if it was something I could brute force figure out to be playable or not, I'd have killed for even an automatic Google translate level of translation as a baseline.

For big budget global releases, sure, fuck the penny pinching publisher, but for smaller niche or experimental stuff, I think I'd be fine with ai translated as a base (and as I mostly PC game now, the option to let the community crowd source a better translation as a replacement building off that)

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/do-you-have-a-%E2%80%98one-that-got-away-%E2%80%99.1231131/page-2#post-142097631

Yes, but the story involves a cat, not a person.
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She had amazingly blue eyes.
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And I still think about her, and that we should have just kept her. I think we all kinda instantly fell in love, but it seemed like too much.

[Boredfrom]

Oh brother.  It can speed up a localizers job so they have more time to add that 'humanity' and nuance to the parts that need that care.  And if they don't the game is worse for it.  Why do these people think in black and white so often.  "Oh well, there's a tool that can help me do more work...that means the tool does everything and humans are out of the picture, even if the work it does is shit we have to ship it!  That's just how it is now, humans are done and we just make garbage now!  They're completely obsolete!"

Many companies and scumbags localizers just use the first draft of the translation and copy paste it. That is the issue people have with it. The fact that is pretty noticeable when this happens in translations over others uses of GenAI is why people hated it with passion in those instances.

Yeah but my point wasn't that it was impossible to produce garbage with AI, but that it speeds up work to facilitate and free the developer to produce quality material if people care to make quality.  If most companies produce shit with AI, people will know it's shit and it will be an inferior product.  The ability for the consumer to discern what is shit and what isn't, doesn't just disappear with the use of genAI.

But many companies keep pushing it even if the quality is shit. I agree that is AI is a tool and ERA gets uppity for everything, but some of this backlash are necessary because companies push AI whatever serves the product or not.

[Boredfrom]

Oh brother.  It can speed up a localizers job so they have more time to add that 'humanity' and nuance to the parts that need that care.  And if they don't the game is worse for it.  Why do these people think in black and white so often.  "Oh well, there's a tool that can help me do more work...that means the tool does everything and humans are out of the picture, even if the work it does is shit we have to ship it!  That's just how it is now, humans are done and we just make garbage now!  They're completely obsolete!"

Many companies and scumbags localizers just use the first draft of the translation and copy paste it. That is the issue people have with it. The fact that is pretty noticeable when this happens in translations over others uses of GenAI is why people hated it with passion in those instances.

I mean... When I was a kid and Japan were the people making the good games, with US stuff being mostly licensed trash and UK stuff being weird computer only fever dreams I'd often buy grey market JP console second hand unboxed cartridges entirely in moon language and it would be a crapshoot if it was something I could brute force figure out to be playable or not, I'd have killed for even an automatic Google translate level of translation as a baseline.

For big budget global releases, sure, fuck the penny pinching publisher, but for smaller niche or experimental stuff, I think I'd be fine with ai translated as a base (and as I mostly PC game now, the option to let the community crowd source a better translation as a replacement building off that)

I mean, in that regard I will just use Google translate because, oh boy, there is some wild Machine Translations out on the wild and with a underserved price tag.

There is a whole can of worms about smaller companies using shady localization companies or trying to publish it themselves with a first draft AI translation.

[benji]

A poor craftsman blames the tools.

The "backlash" against AI is completely illogical and absolutely not necessary. A company that uses a single prompt and ships whatever it spits out isn't a company that would suddenly painstakingly handcraft something high quality without AI.

Shaming companies into not using AI does not make anything better, really, literally no benefit is achieved except for the rush that puritans get from moral condemnation of others who don't follow the doctrine.

[benji]

I don't use AI for therapy, because I know it is shit. but I can see why people do it. If I expressed my thoughts, I would be vilified and committed instantly. AI is safe for people.

Well, as long as they don't publicly post admitting that they have incredibly violent thoughts that make them a danger to others. And that they're deliberately refusing treatment apparently so as to maintain this status without anyone being the wiser until it's too late.

[Propagandhim]

Many companies and scumbags localizers just use the first draft of the translation and copy paste it. That is the issue people have with it. The fact that is pretty noticeable when this happens in translations over others uses of GenAI is why people hated it with passion in those instances.

Yeah but my point wasn't that it was impossible to produce garbage with AI, but that it speeds up work to facilitate and free the developer to produce quality material if people care to make quality.  If most companies produce shit with AI, people will know it's shit and it will be an inferior product.  The ability for the consumer to discern what is shit and what isn't, doesn't just disappear with the use of genAI.

But many companies keep pushing it even if the quality is shit. I agree that is AI is a tool and ERA gets uppity for everything, but some of this backlash are necessary because companies push AI whatever serves the product or not.

If you know it's shit, and I know it's shit, and everyone else knows it's shit, then the company pushing shit will suffer.  It doesn't get more complicated than that.  If you take advantage of its benefits and use care to put a quality touch on whatever needs it, it will be a good product.

[Boredfrom]

Shaming companies into not using AI does not make anything better, really, literally no benefit is achieved except for the rush that puritans get from moral condemnation of others who don't follow the doctrine.

We just got an article of Microsoft pushing AI internally regardless of whatever it makes sense or not:

https://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-internal-memo-using-ai-no-longer-optional-github-copilot-2025-6

They are not “ashamed”.  

The craftsman KNOWS what tools to use in the specific occasion.

If you know it's shit, and I know it's shit, and everyone else knows it's shit, then the company pushing shit will suffer.

Unless their winnings outweighs their loses in other areas, example from the masters of this philosophy above.

[Jansen]

We need to save topaz before she becomes a casualty of the grifter wars.

[Greatness Gone]

"how much longer am I meant to stall before people get serious about this situation?"

the situation you put yourself in? holy shit imagine the entitlement.

[Propagandhim]

She's at the natural crossroads of misogyny, racism, ableism and aporaphobia and you're saying she put herself in this situation?!  Holy shit.  Holy fucking shit.


I just, fuck.

[BIONIC]

I just, fuck.

He's just like me fr fr

[Kyon1988]

We need to save topaz before she becomes a casualty of the grifter wars.

1: 728 times 4. Does Britt not know how insane it is to expect people to donate at least 3000 dollar monthly?


2: Pets are family. I get that. But sometimes loving someone means making though decions. If you can't pay for treatment it's best to find someone or place that can

[Potato]

They're always the experts.  If a game developer, engineer, or coder uses generative AI to do boilerplate while they spend their time on design and innovation, they're not prioritizing their workflow correctly or are doing everything wrong.  If they use gen-AI, only THEY can see the inferior product and not the people in the business of producing that product and competing in the market for years producing those products.  I'm not an artist, i've never been able to draw anything competently, but I'm going to tell every artist not to use the symmetry tool in Procreate because it's automating the humanity out of the process and I don't agree with its use.  Like Nepenthe with sociology and economics, even though they only have the credentials to stock Pepsi on shelves, they're still the ultimate last-word experts on every topic.

Generative AI has been used in the film and video game business for years. All those procedurally generated stages, all the millions of trees, Massive software in LotR and Marvel films. 

They really are only concerned when something personally affects the mods like Nep. Her dreams of being a shitty video game background graphics artist went up in smoke, so no one can use it soak about Gen AI in her forum.

[Potato]

Well, looks like we know "at what cost" now...75¢

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/i%E2%80%99m-finding-it-increasingly-difficult-to-play-re-releases-remasters-ports-of-retro-games-because-of-my-preference-to-play-on-original-hardware.1231200

Is this autism

Is it Resetera in 2025?

[Potato]

lol they are angry

Wait, why is there a user here named Copilot with a Copilot PFP who's shilling fucking Microsoft Copilot?

What the fuck is going on?

I can't believe there's so many people in here defending IA….

Theres a defense force for everything.

My God, give over. AI is a useful tool, I work in tech and we’ve recently embraced it with being given access to enterprise GitHub which has Copilot, it’s very helpful for doing little menial tasks, I really don’t get their disdain for it, I’m guessing most just don’t have any personal experience with it and just think “it’s taking our jobs”

Most don't have a job and therefore can't see any practical use for it. They blame it for their job prospects going from zero to less than zero.

[benji]

Shaming companies into not using AI does not make anything better, really, literally no benefit is achieved except for the rush that puritans get from moral condemnation of others who don't follow the doctrine.

We just got an article of Microsoft pushing AI internally regardless of whatever it makes sense or not:

https://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-internal-memo-using-ai-no-longer-optional-github-copilot-2025-6

They are not “ashamed”.  

The craftsman KNOWS what tools to use in the specific occasion.

If you know it's shit, and I know it's shit, and everyone else knows it's shit, then the company pushing shit will suffer.

Unless their winnings outweighs their loses in other areas, example from the masters of this philosophy above.

Okay, great, thanks for confirming my argument I guess?

[DavidCroquet]

I'm sorry I thought I was browsing The Bire Dot Com, not AI Spergout Headquarters Dot Org

[imsotired]

We need to save topaz before she becomes a casualty of the grifter wars.

Aggressive demands doesn't seem like the most effective begging technique, Topaz could probably do better.

[benji]

I'm sorry I thought I was browsing The Bire Dot Com, not AI Spergout Headquarters Dot Org

What part of "schizo echo chamber" did you not understand?

[Tektonic]

Can someone please ask their favourite AI to make an AI Bire Bot. It just has to chuckle occasionally and press the Like button.

[HaughtyFrank]

My neighbor's pitbull killed a golden retriever at our local dog park yesterday. He was a really cool dog and my kids were pretty attached since we don't have a dog. The dog has a history of killing other animals like coyotes and raccoons but hasn't harmed another dog until now.

Just sucks because we had to explain to the kids what happened to the dog and truth be told I don't like lying to them about such things which we could've done. Basically told them what happened and that the dog had to be put to sleep since it was a danger to other dogs. Feel really bad for the owner of the golden retriever too. I'm sure their family is devastated. Doesn't seem right for the authorities to kill my neighbors dog either though.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/neighbor%E2%80%99s-dog-was-just-put-down.1231386/

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

I want to get back to something earlier,

Man, bire members really be like "i want to go back to something earlier" and then not go back to something earlier

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

"Very overwhelming to have to accommodate everyone at my expense all the time."

What the hell is she on about?

We need to save topaz before she becomes a casualty of the grifter wars.

I don't think Topaz wants to provide any more emotional support.

[nampad]

Does anyone here give a fuck about Britt or why are we keeping posting about her. It’s not like there aren’t enough weirdos with era alone already. Starting to need a dossier like messo…

[DavidCroquet]

can we replace britt with that big titty grifter instead