Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2)

[Boredfrom]

Can I just say, calling Trump "TACO" is the dumbest fucking thing. Where did he chicken out on his big bill? Where did he chicken out on detaining minorities? Where did he chicken out on alienating our allies? Where did he chicken out on bombing Iran? Where did he chicken out on raising tariffs (aka yeah he scaled some back but they're still higher across the board)? He's doing the shit he said he'd do and people somehow have convinced themselves "nah he actually backs off."

He doesn't chicken out, he does what he said and is fucking things up. Going to crazy high tariffs then backing off a bit but still ending mucher higher than we were from the starting point isn't chickening out, it's still fucking up economies.

TACO has become a flippant hand waving of drive by comments across tons of Trump posts and I'm tired of it.

I mean, the examples you posted actually have a lot of TACO moments, specially Iran after the bombing.

From “THERE IS HOING TO BE A REGIMEN CHANGE!111”

To “Pls, peace. OR ELSE. But peace please.”

The danger with Trump is not that he doesn’t do the stuff he wants to do, but he does it bad and half assed. Tariff stuff is no different, as he is pussyfooting like always.

Stuff like political victories in Congress and the Senate are probably the only thing he genuinely have gotten better and bolder, but I blame your shitty politicians going full Banana republic.

[Boredfrom]

That rocks. The more this blows up in the mayor's face, the better. Awful politician, at least eric adams is getting bribes.

 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ll-cool-j-says-he-wont-perform-at-phillys-wawa-welcome-america-4th-of-july-show-until-the-city-workers-strike-ends.1236210/#post-142312857

Dunno if he is wrong or not, but “one is incompetent because corruption over the incompetent without reason” is hilarious in a black comedy way.

[Propagandhim]

I would pay for Messofanego's trip to China on the condition that he livestreams his interaction with the locals when he complains about something problematic.

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/zohran-mamdani-wins-the-democratic-primary-for-mayor-of-new-york-city.1227627/page-40

The way RE is spinning this story is pretty wild. You can certainly argue that it's not a huge deal but all the mental gymnastics about how this actually racist to report at all and how he was actually totally correct fill in "African American" because he was born in Uganda (mind you that the admission doesn't ask for your birthplace but your ethnicity) is just absurd

[Potato]

The weird thing I really don't get with people who use AI regularly, is the lack of achievement in it. My boss got really happy the other day when she saw that AI could summarize email threads for her, which to me was ridiculous as my jobs have always been about investigating data and situations, understanding all of the parties involved, and creating a solution that works. During this entire process there are so many instances of having to think critically and work on understanding what people are saying, what they want, what's happening, what's been said, what has been done, and then mentally create a timeline and general understanding. This part is to me rewarding and satisfying, and I know how much better I've become at critical thinking and problem solving by doing this. There's a tremendous sense of reward and accomplishment in getting good at these mundane things, and yet people who use AI just seem to want to skip every thing that could fulfill their lives.

I've read some shite on there in my time but this lad takes pride in reading all of his emails 

The weird thing I really don't get with people who use Google Maps regularly, is the lack of achievement in it. My boss got really happy the other day when she saw that Google Maps could summarize journeys for her, which to me was ridiculous as my jobs have always been about investigating paper maps, understanding all of the different routes involved, and creating a solution that works. During this entire process there are so many instances of having to think critically and work on understanding what roads connect to other roads, and then mentally create a map in my head. This part is to me rewarding and satisfying, and I know how much better I've become at planning my journey and problem solving by doing this. There's a tremendous sense of reward and accomplishment in getting good at these mundane things, and yet people who use Google Maps just seem to want to skip every thing that could fulfill their lives.

[Taco Bell Tower]

[Potato]

Same hairline

[Potato]

Is living in China much worse than in USA? I know they got some scary social credit score thing, but I would think living standards in cities is not that awful. USA, I'm just scared of every third person having guns, being violently racist, not having healthcare, bad education, and not being able to walk anywhere unless if you're in the big cities. This is all before America became more fascist.

Why don't you try it fucko? See how far you get along the immigration pathway as a therapist and a brown guy.

[Potato]

I would pay for Messofanego's trip to China on the condition that he livestreams his interaction with the locals when he complains about something problematic.

And burns a Chinese flag in public

[Propagandhim]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/it-begins-rural-clinic-in-trump-district-shuts-down-as-ceo-cites-medicaid-cuts.1235730/page-3

[Disco55]

He can try to post this and see how that goes.

[Potato]

Damn, those Chinese censors work fast!

[Propagandhim]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/zohran-mamdani-wins-the-democratic-primary-for-mayor-of-new-york-city.1227627/page-40

The way RE is spinning this story is pretty wild. You can certainly argue that it's not a huge deal but all the mental gymnastics about how this actually racist to report at all and how he was actually totally correct fill in "African American" because he was born in Uganda (mind you that the admission doesn't ask for your birthplace but your ethnicity) is just absurd

 Is this person retarded?  Is Elon Musk black?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/zohran-mamdani-wins-the-democratic-primary-for-mayor-of-new-york-city.1227627/page-40

The NYT is racist trash?! Say it ain't so! It's not like there has been 700 thousand examples of them doing egregious shit before this!
Reminder that they published an article written by non-journalists linked to the official Israeli propaganda office that's full of lies and violates every standard of theirs to manufacture consent for Israeli war crimes in Gaza, and rather than admit wrongdoing and retract it when it came out that their journalists raised concerns about it, they initiated an investigation to find out who leaked that said concerns were raised.
Cancel your subscription, the NYT will never put out anything of value you can't get from plenty other places.

Oh shit, it's racist.  And I'm gonna show it's racist by not telling you exactly how.  Just believe it.  NYT is racist.  If I say it enough times, it should be common knowledge.

[Propagandhim]

Lol this is the excuse people are using.  His "origin" is not the African racial group just because he grew up in Uganda.  That's why black americans who never stepped foot in Africa are "African American" - because it's keyed into their racial group, not simply the location of where they grew up.  Which is why it would make just as little sense if Elon put "African American" on the college application. Mamdani could have done what thousands of other Indian-American college applicants did and put the correct origin, but he didn't for a reason.  These fuckers will throw out logic and lie as long as their "team" wins and slur everyone else for being wrong.  No the NYT isn't racist for pointing out a fact.

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/it-begins-rural-clinic-in-trump-district-shuts-down-as-ceo-cites-medicaid-cuts.1235730/page-3

What's great about these like the quoted post is they stride in and proclaim it and everyone just nods their heads and says how right it is even though the quoted post has no actual content in it. It only appears to have content because you're supposed to sneak in a bunch of personal assumptions based on how you'd answer things like the following:
1. Who treats them with kid gloves?
2. Who should hold them accountable?
3. How should they be held accountable?
4. What are the consequences of their biases? In relation to what?
5. Who tells them it's not their fault? About what?
6. What does addressing bigotry and being better people have to do with rural clinic funding from Medicaid and vice versa?

And the entire discussion is based on a presumption, that these random Era members know the interests of unnamed people better than those unnamed people and can declare it absent any information about the people or anything else. In fact if we go back to the post that started the discussion in that thread we can see it doesn't even make sense:

I need to point out a few things since we're already going in a bad direction in this thread:

1. There's no point in blaming people for voting against their own interests. They literally don't know any better. They were indoctrinated. They were raised on capitalist propaganda their entire lives. If you're going to blame anyone, always blame the people who are actually responsible for this situation: the rich.

2. The democrats will not save us. Their reaction to Mamdani's winning the primary and their constant apologetics and whitewashing of the genocide of Palestinians says as much, but if that weren't enough, consider who heir donors are, and you'll see who they're really beholden to. The entire party apparatus would have to uprooted to turn them into an actual party of the people.

The only real solution to any of this is the same one we should have been pursuing for decades now: building dual power and circumventing the state apparatus entirely. This will only become more critical as all state-provided services continue to be defunded and/or entirely shut down. Do not revel in the suffering of your fellow workers. The only solution is to build something new, not hurt people until they beg for mercy.

If the latter two things are true then they can't have voted against their interests because their interests weren't on the ballot.

But that's even granting the presumption, stated without evidence, that it's possible to represent all interests of "the people" in a single party. (Notice that in this post the person denies it, making clear that at least "the rich", "Zionists" and Democrats are not part of "the people" along with presumably all Republicans as well. How quickly "the people" becomes a very limited group indeed!)

[imsotired]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/schreier-deep-job-cuts-across-xbox-everwild-zenimax-online-ip-perfect-dark-unannounced-projects-cancelled-t10-50-cut-the-initiative-closed.1233783/page-55#post-142302456

Some people are in situations where their responsibilities outweigh needing to take a stand. I have to put my family and especially my son before myself.

Yep. Confirmed.

I completely understand where you're coming from, and please don't use the autistic son excuse for me because I'm a broke ass person who has raised a child for 17 years with autism, but there's a difference between taking a moral stand and going online and picking people to question their morality in a threat about people losing their jobs very likely because of that thing.

The fact that you felt you needed to call me out when hundreds of people are talking about corporate, not caring about the little people, and many of these jobs likely lost because of dangers of AI is very questionable. I guess you just needed somebody to do your " reset era lives in a bubble" criticism towards.

[Propagandhim]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/it-begins-rural-clinic-in-trump-district-shuts-down-as-ceo-cites-medicaid-cuts.1235730/page-3

What's great about these like the quoted post is they stride in and proclaim it and everyone just nods their heads and says how right it is even though the quoted post has no actual content in it. It only appears to have content because you're supposed to sneak in a bunch of personal assumptions based on how you'd answer things like the following:
1. Who treats them with kid gloves?
2. Who should hold them accountable?
3. How should they be held accountable?
4. What are the consequences of their biases? In relation to what?
5. Who tells them it's not their fault? About what?
6. What does addressing bigotry and being better people have to do with rural clinic funding from Medicaid and vice versa?

And the entire discussion is based on a presumption, that these random Era members know the interests of unnamed people better than those unnamed people and can declare it absent any information about the people or anything else. In fact if we go back to the post that started the discussion in that thread we can see it doesn't even make sense:

I need to point out a few things since we're already going in a bad direction in this thread:

1. There's no point in blaming people for voting against their own interests. They literally don't know any better. They were indoctrinated. They were raised on capitalist propaganda their entire lives. If you're going to blame anyone, always blame the people who are actually responsible for this situation: the rich.

2. The democrats will not save us. Their reaction to Mamdani's winning the primary and their constant apologetics and whitewashing of the genocide of Palestinians says as much, but if that weren't enough, consider who heir donors are, and you'll see who they're really beholden to. The entire party apparatus would have to uprooted to turn them into an actual party of the people.

The only real solution to any of this is the same one we should have been pursuing for decades now: building dual power and circumventing the state apparatus entirely. This will only become more critical as all state-provided services continue to be defunded and/or entirely shut down. Do not revel in the suffering of your fellow workers. The only solution is to build something new, not hurt people until they beg for mercy.

If the latter two things are true then they can't have voted against their interests because their interests weren't on the ballot.

But that's even granting the presumption, stated without evidence, that it's possible to represent all interests of "the people" in a single party. (Notice that in this post the person denies it, making clear that at least "the rich", "Zionists" and Democrats are not part of "the people" along with presumably all Republicans as well. How quickly "the people" becomes a very limited group indeed!)

It's a good point.  They're constantly going on about how the Democrats don't represent their interests, but will just assume that those white racist hicks in the south don't have similar disillusionment with the political party they assume are in their interests.  If Nepenthe couldn't vote for a Democratic presidential candidate, why would they assume these people should vote for one?  

One of the reasons floated about not voting for Democrats is because they want large-scale systemic change and voting D is just keeping the status quo.  Why not allow that reasoning for those people too? 

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/zohran-mamdani-wins-the-democratic-primary-for-mayor-of-new-york-city.1227627/page-40

The way RE is spinning this story is pretty wild. You can certainly argue that it's not a huge deal but all the mental gymnastics about how this actually racist to report at all and how he was actually totally correct fill in "African American" because he was born in Uganda (mind you that the admission doesn't ask for your birthplace but your ethnicity) is just absurd

Lol this is the excuse people are using.  His "origin" is not the African racial group just because he grew up in Uganda.  That's why black americans who never stepped foot in Africa are "African American" - because it's keyed into their racial group, not simply the location of where they grew up.  Which is why it would make just as little sense if Elon put "African American" on the college application. Mamdani could have done what thousands of other Indian-American college applicants did and put the correct origin, but he didn't for a reason.  These fuckers will throw out logic and lie as long as their "team" wins and slur everyone else for being wrong.  No the NYT isn't racist for pointing out a fact.

What's the next complex issue you're going to start "just asking questions" about despite the clear facts? This?

A White House spokesperson highlighted Mamdani’s use of the phrase in an email to PolitiFact July 1, days after we published our June 26 fact-check of President Donald Trump who called Mamdani "communist" in a Truth Social post. The White House didn’t send us evidence to support Trump’s statement before our fact-check was posted; multiple political scientists and communism experts told us Mamdani’s mayoral race positions did not amount to communism. We rated Trump’s statement False.

...

After reviewing the tape and re-interviewing experts, we decided not to change our False rating. Mamdani’s views in the mayoral race do not reflect communism, and experts found his 2021 remark too brief to reach detailed conclusions.

...

Throughout his roughly 40-minute remarks, Mamdani praised democratic socialism. The relevant portion of the clip starts around minute 10, when he spoke about acting on an agenda based on conviction of beliefs, whether they are popular or not.

"But then there are also other issues that we firmly believe in, whether it's BDS (Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions of Israel), right, or whether it's the end goal of seizing the means of production, where we do not have the same level of support at this very moment.

"And what I want to say is that it is critical that the way that we organize, the way that we set up our you know, set up our work and our priorities, that we do not leave any one issue for the other, that we do not meet a moment and only look at what people are ready for, but that we are doing both of these things in tandem, because it is critical for us to both meet people where they're at and to also organize and organize for what is correct and for what is right and to ensure over time we can bring people to that issue."

Was that a clear call for communism?

Experts in political parties and movements said Mamdani’s passing remark is associated with communism, but it’s hard to say much more about Mamdani’s views because he did not elaborate.

Just another centrist who won't end capitalism, colonialism and white supremacy.

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/zohran-mamdani-wins-the-democratic-primary-for-mayor-of-new-york-city.1227627/page-40

I'm glad I clicked:

The Republicans are busy implementing a full on fascist state but NYT is busy worrying about what boxes Zohran checked on his college application. Media being complicit as usual.

Mainstream press is just desperate to get approval from the Trump administration despite none of these imbecilic journalists realizing that they will forever be a target by this admin no matter what they do to smear Democrats and uplift the right.

So many pick-me's. Pathetic.

Man watching the Times just absolutely throw away all of its credibility over the last decade or so has been quite a sight. What a fucking failure, just endlessly lowering the bar. The coverage of Israel's genocide and the whole mayoral primary have both been so outrageous. Obvious whose interests are at heart in their now unashamedly biased interpretation of events.

Do any of those writers actually live in New York City? If so, how can they show their faces outside?

Feels like it should be a way bigger controversy that the "paper of record" is using a "race science" white supremacist as an intermediary for hacked college admissions data just to smear one (1) mayoral candidate.

Lying is so embedded in their DNA by now that it'd take generations to shake it.
Their underlying (un)official religion even teaches that it's REQUIRED to lie to your "enemies" in order to achieve results, though granted those passages are ABUSED rather than adhered to in their true spirit.

Fucking infuriating. Mainstream press really running wild once again to protect capital at all costs and seeking to run the same divisive playbook used against Kamala. Insert a terrible hit piece about identity and then chuds claim later all Zohran's talking about is his 'confused' identity politics or whatever. It's jnsidious and a distraction but that's the point of it.

But if anything these last few years with their coverage of Gaza as well as Trump have hopefully woken ppl up to the fact that all in the end most of these mainstream press orgs are just as much propaganda arms as state media you'd see elsewhere.

It brings me peace that no matter how hard the media try to smear Zohran, no matter how hard they try to bring him down, absolutely nobody is falling for it. The people want someone with an actual positive vision for the future. A fighter to stand up to Trump especially after that awful bill passed and he's that.

The comment on that bullshit NYT "article" about running hit pieces on one of the few sources of hope in this country is very poignant. A lot of people feel that way.

Remember when Trump called the media "The enemy of the people" in his first term? Seems the media has done nothing but a piss-poor job disproving that assertion. In fact, they have only gotten worse since then.

The amount of time and money being put into smearing Zohran from both sides of the aisle, you would think he was running for President. They'll do everything in their power to stop a progressive from being elected but this playbook doesn't work anymore because he actually believes things can and should get better while they don't.

They're so desperate for a scandal as if a sex pest and corrupt fraud endorsed by this current administration aren't running.

I really can't wait for Zohran to tear Eric Adams to shreds. Establishment democrats and right-wingers pretending to be centrists who hate everything Zohran stands for need to be humbled.

Cancelled my subscription a few years ago and never looked back. NYT is an institution of the establishment and their abhorrent actions will never change

We need to start talking about banning the NYT on ERA.

[HaughtyFrank]

This is one of these situations where the denial is worse than the "crime". Just gaslighting over shit they'd crucify anyone else for

[HaughtyFrank]

A White House spokesperson highlighted Mamdani’s use of the phrase in an email to PolitiFact July 1, days after we published our June 26 fact-check of President Donald Trump who called Mamdani "communist" in a Truth Social post. The White House didn’t send us evidence to support Trump’s statement before our fact-check was posted; multiple political scientists and communism experts told us Mamdani’s mayoral race positions did not amount to communism. We rated Trump’s statement False

Guys this is the part where you're supposed to do a Google search on the Internet, not talk to communism experts. The fuck kind of fact checking is this

[benji]

I love their repeated idea that a guy becoming mayor of a city is somehow "a threat to capital" as if he could turn the city into a collective farm or something. Yeah, the City Council and/or State of New York and/or federal courts are going to just allow him to appropriate all of Wall Street's property or whatever.

[DavidCroquet]

There is no consent in capitalism. You either work or you die in places like the USA. I personally cannot blame people for working for shitty companies implementing shitty things. I understand what you mean and I agree with you, I'd just rather blame the companies rather than the workers themselves.

Ok, ignoring local celebrities like Britt and Wylder, “places like the USA” insinuates that other places exist where this is not the basic standard…where are these mythical utopias? Can you name them?

[Besticus Maximus]

I remember this debate not going so well for Kamala Harris on anti racist resetera

[HaughtyFrank]

Thought some of you might enjoy this. I haven't read the book yet, but I'll probably pick it up on the strength of how good these interviews are. The title of the book is comparing the East India Company's role in the British Empire to Open AI in the modern day American Empire.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/interviews-with-karen-hao-about-her-book-empire-of-ai.1236288/

Uh, not to judge a book by it's cover but that's quite the claim

[Straight Edge]

https://cosmicbook.news/ironheart-worst-thing-ever-made-marvel

[Snoopy]

But the top staff get paid. They're the one(s) who set the tone for all the volunteers. Rotating the volunteers does nothing if the leadership never changes, and people paid to do a job aren't going to willingly rotate out.

I don't actually know how many paid staff there are.

Wait, is this true? How do you know this? I thought they were volunteers. And that the buyout 4 years ago didn't change that either. Did I miss some announcement about that?

If that's true, that paints the incident of the GM abusing an admin in an even worse light, since he'd be literally her boss...

i'd say good for morrigan continuing to tighten the noose around b-dumb's balls all the time, but she's a hypocrite, especially with her thread brigading history as a mod and the bans she'd do in them

"I thought they were volunteers." Lol. Fuck off Morrigan. Trying to act all dumb and innocent. Like she didn't go apeshit when Cerium sold the place and she found out how much money the admin were making while she was girl bossing for free. Or was it just some cosmic coincidence she resigned  got booted out at the same time?

[Boredfrom]

https://cosmicbook.news/ironheart-worst-thing-ever-made-marvel

Ugh, the source is nerdrotic. 

He is genuinely a CHUD.

[Keetongu]

Lying is so embedded in their DNA by now that it'd take generations to shake it.
Their underlying (un)official religion even teaches that it's REQUIRED to lie to your "enemies" in order to achieve results, though granted those passages are ABUSED rather than adhered to in their true spirit.

Resetera or Stormfront?

[Straight Edge]

https://cosmicbook.news/ironheart-worst-thing-ever-made-marvel

Ugh, the source is nerdrotic. 

He is genuinely a CHUD.

I didn't know he was a banned source since Benji doesn't have a list.