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I don't think it's a coincidence the MCU started going to shit when they started deviating from roughly adapting stories from the comics. You can pretty much draw a hard line post-Endgame for the drop in quality. Obviously the OG actors leaving apart from Thor (and Hulk, to a lesser extent) played a huge part but fucking hell, looking at the list of all the films after phase 3 is pretty grim. They went from basically having a clear plan through the entire Infinity Saga (with Spider-Man being shoehorned in when they got the rights) to just throwing shit at the wall with this scattergun approach.
It's virtually identical to the situation in the the comics when Jonathan Hickman's Marvel run finished after Secret Wars and they did a line-wide relaunch with All-New, All-Different Marvel. A perfectly planned and coherent run of interconnected titles with a clear end-goal culminating in probably the best big event they've ever done, followed by legacy characters being replaced with shitter, younger versions ( Totally Awesome Hulk, anyone?  ), some bizarre choices of C-list characters getting solo series and crap team lineups. That re-launch basically killed my interest in Marvel comics and I've barely gone back since.
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Superman returns is the one where he holds a plane by the nose which is the least structural part of a plane right? Superman Returns made me fall asleep when I watched it as a kid,
Jesus fucking Christ It came out in 2006, that was 19 years ago.
07-14-2025, 03:25 PM
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Are we going to pretend Superman Returns wasn't a boring as all hell?
Anyway, I'm just reminded Madagascar is now 20 years old ugghhh
(07-14-2025, 03:16 PM)simiansmarts wrote: Jansen dateline='[url=tel:1752503825' wrote: 1752503825[/url]']
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Superman Returns made me fall asleep when I watched it as a kid,
Jesus fucking Christ It came out in 2006, that was 19 years ago.
I was 26
07-14-2025, 03:31 PM
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supa mayne supa mayne he can fly he can fly so high in this timeline he a supa hewo da snider cut its the snider cut and the mcu with the ultron stones its the timeverse prequels multiversal Feige teaser supercut crossover spiderverses end credits were peak
This is all i hear in my head when i read marvel superhero shit on forums. I haven't watched a single one of these things. Please only talk about things that pertain to my interests. Thanks.
(07-14-2025, 03:25 PM)Disco55 wrote: Are we going to pretend Superman Returns wasn't a boring as all hell?
Awesome movie.
Fantastic follow-up to the quest for peace ✌️ 🕊️
(07-14-2025, 03:31 PM)Propagandhim wrote: supa mayne supa mayne he can fly he can fly so high he a supa hewo da snider cut its the snider cut and the mcu with the ultron stones
This is all i hear in my head when i read marvel superhero shit on forums. I haven't watched a single one of these things. Please only talk about things that pertain to my interests. Thanks.
I just read a guy's positive review for a camping chair where he extols the virtues of the zero gravity lounge design because it's easier to jack off in VR than when he was lying in bed.
You're welcome!
07-14-2025, 03:56 PM
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(07-14-2025, 02:20 PM)Uncle wrote: (07-14-2025, 01:38 PM)Eric Cartman wrote: The reason the MCU has been on a downwards trajectory is exactly because studio notes have been your examples there, and most of the writing is of the "This happens because the plot needs it to" variety rather than "This happens because it is the logical consequence of the previous thing happening", with a side order of lecturing the audience why ORIGINAL CHARACTER DO NOT STEAL is way better than 70+ year old icon.
but that's the whole point of what I'm saying
the plot demands that something happens even though it shouldn't be able to happen due to the existing state of the world/powers/abilities etc
"wait, these villains managed to build a superweapon of this magnitude in the middle of the city without ANYONE noticing all this time, despite the fact that there are multiple supers with super hearing, x-ray vision, and supposedly world's greatest detective abilities"
I dunno, I see it as more logical that a world absolutely fucking full of super powers, magic, technology, aliens, and literal gods and monsters, that all kinds of shit can be going on without the people trying to stop it immediately noticing, not less
CAPESHIT!
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In terms of power creep, in terms of the shit happening on earth, superman is pretty much at the power ceiling, and is still a force to be reckoned with when you start getting extra terrestrial / mystical / actual deities.
But also, the important point about superman, is that being absurdly powerful isn't actually what he's about or the reason for him being, well, superman.
I'm gonna cheat and use some panels from someone whos really fucking good at comics to show an example superman-ass-supermanning
"Why doesn't he just eyebeam all their guns? Why doesn't he just superbreath them all away? Why doesn't he superspeed run round disarming them? Why doesnt he just drop a fucking chimney on them?" - thats not what hes about, hed rather Big Dad people into fixing up and flying right than punch them into a cell, which automatically makes him corny as shit, but also low key kinda cool, which is why Superman vs The Elite is also a pretty good examination of what superman is actually about.
As I understand it, the film starts with him having just having had his ass kicked for the first time ever, and is going through a bit of a crisis of conscience.
The fact that people dont necessarily agree with his actions is character work. The fact other people will use that opportunity to make a play is also character work.
Also most of the nerdier reviews ive read / seen have various complaints about things like film structure and oveused Gunnisms, but they mostly agree superman is a good version of superman
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The reason the MCU has been on a downwards trajectory is exactly because studio notes have been your examples there, and most of the writing is of the "This happens because the plot needs it to" variety rather than "This happens because it is the logical consequence of the previous thing happening", with a side order of lecturing the audience why ORIGINAL CHARACTER DO NOT STEAL is way better than 70+ year old icon.
but that's the whole point of what I'm saying
the plot demands that something happens even though it shouldn't be able to happen due to the existing state of the world/powers/abilities etc
"wait, these villains managed to build a superweapon of this magnitude in the middle of the city without ANYONE noticing all this time, despite the fact that there are multiple supers with super hearing, x-ray vision, and supposedly world's greatest detective abilities"
Again, you aren’t arguing plot consistency but suspension of disbelief.
Cunts. Shit the fuck up.
If no one cares how come so many people are engaging in this conversation
07-14-2025, 05:09 PM
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(07-14-2025, 03:56 PM)Eric Cartman wrote: "Why doesn't he just eyebeam all their guns? Why doesn't he just superbreath them all away? Why doesn't he superspeed run round disarming them? Why doesnt he just drop a fucking chimney on them?" - thats not what hes about
you have to know that's not what I mean
I'm talking about situations which are not out of character for the hero and yet they still don't use resources at their disposal even when they normally would've, because the writer forgot or didn't know how to write themselves out of the hole they got themselves into
MCU did this constantly with stuff like sling rings, just forgets about them and how they work
(07-14-2025, 03:31 PM)Propagandhim wrote: supa mayne supa mayne he can fly he can fly so high in this timeline he a supa hewo da snider cut its the snider cut and the mcu with the ultron stones its the timeverse prequels multiversal Feige teaser supercut crossover spiderverses end credits were peak
This is all i hear in my head when i read marvel superhero shit on forums. I haven't watched a single one of these things. Please only talk about things that pertain to my interests. Thanks.
sorry to shit up the thread, to me it's not just a capeshit thing which I also barely care about, it's an issue with tons of mass media writing for the past decade
everything from movies to TV to video games are all shitty morality plays where it's important to learn the lesson that It's Good To Do Nice Things And Not Be Bad
07-14-2025, 05:59 PM
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(07-14-2025, 01:15 PM)Eric Cartman wrote: 
![[Image: jLZZHVK.jpeg]](https://i.imgur.com/jLZZHVK.jpeg) Not surprised to see these Zionist hasabra talking points citing something pre-Crisis.
(07-14-2025, 01:57 PM)Eric Cartman wrote: https://www.resetera.com/threads/getting-real-tired-of-being-treated-like-a-theif-and-things-continually-get-worse-and-resistance-doesnt-do-shit.1242033/#post-142584312 wrote:You're living through heightening contradictions and these are some of the examples. Just recognize that it's the fundamental rift of class struggle that is at the base of all of this and act accordingly. What heightening contradictions? These dudes don't realize that self-service stores only came about after the war. You used to have to ask for stuff, not just grab it yourself. There's places in the Western world where you still have to do this, especially state monopoly liquor stores for example. The entire reason you can shoplift stuff is because of the abundance, the cost to police it wasn't worth the value of the items being taken. That's the opposite of the "contradictions" just like how poverty continues to decline.
And how is rich capitalists shop-lifting from other rich capitalists a class struggle? The lumpenproletariat are supposed to be forcibly abolished by the state, not be given control of the means of production.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/connor-mcgregor-sent-unsolicited-dick-pics-to-azealia-banks.1243344/
Isn't Banks an extremely problematic person themselves. Shouldn't there be some sort of divide here.
(07-14-2025, 02:37 PM)Jansen wrote: (07-14-2025, 01:40 PM)simiansmarts wrote: (07-14-2025, 03:26 AM)Cauliflower Of Love wrote: Superman returns is the one where he holds a plane by the nose which is the least structural part of a plane right? Superman Returns made me fall asleep when I watched it as a kid,
Jesus fucking Christ
It was terrible
How overbearing was this?
07-14-2025, 07:12 PM
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If only Barak Obama had such insights as
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I just remembered why I stopped reading reset
Quote:everything from movies to TV to video games are all shitty morality plays where it's important to learn the lesson that It's Good To Do Nice Things And Not Be Bad
Two things:
1 You just moved the goal posts from cinema sin complains to “everything is morality play”.
2 Morality plays are usual from this genre. If you want stuff that is less obvious about it go watch Invincible and The Boys, both are good cape shit, better than most recent DC and Marvel stuff.
If I ever wanted to use the C word, it's be all over the place, except Sookie, what a dream .
Kyuuji wrote:Really depressing news, especially when you think what these women are now put through for nothing other than writing some erotic fiction. It's plain misogyny and homophobia, that rapists and sexual predators face lesser sentences only compounds that.
link to this kyuuji nugget? the context is assuredly amazing.
(07-14-2025, 01:57 PM)Eric Cartman wrote: https://www.resetera.com/threads/getting-real-tired-of-being-treated-like-a-theif-and-things-continually-get-worse-and-resistance-doesnt-do-shit.1242033/#post-142584312 wrote:You're living through heightening contradictions and these are some of the examples. Just recognize that it's the fundamental rift of class struggle that is at the base of all of this and act accordingly.
Obviously, because under space communism the selfish shoplifting assholes these are all literally targetted measures against would be voluntarily tilling the fields as glorious vanguards of the proleteriat
Can't steal if there aren't any products on the shelves!
(07-14-2025, 08:10 PM)DavidCroquet wrote: link to this kyuuji nugget? the context is assuredly amazing.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/china-detains-female-writers-of-boys-love-content-in-porn-crackdown.1242756/#post-142647999
I remember when Mihoyo was forced to modify some female character costumes to appease the Censors and ERA immediate reaction was to celebrate until someone explained to them that is was done because the CCP are old dinosaurs rather than “feminism”.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/obama%E2%80%99s-blunt-message-for-democrats-%E2%80%98toughen-up%E2%80%99.1243272/#post-142663482
Nepenthe, post: 142663482, member: 1995 wrote:He suggests building things which is also what I've been suggesting for years now.
Nepenthe, post: 142667772, member: 1995 wrote:Well, when I refer to "building things," I don't just mean national infrastructure (although we need more of that) but social systems and organizations meant to educate and demonstrate to people about more humane ways of living. Kwane True said that "When King went somewhere, he did some speeches and left. When Malcolm went somewhere, he built a mosque."
Like, just the way the right organizes- by getting off their asses to create groups that are united by a single goal and go off to agitate for a cause- is something we should be emulating. And I don't want to hear the excuse about money. Black people organize but ain't ever had a lot of money.
Nepenthe, post: 142668867, member: 1995 wrote:That MAGA Mom group that was going around for awhile in the news crying about school curriculums was literally just a fucking Facebook group whose members started meeting in real life. That's it.
I'm not saying that there is inherently no overlap between the capitalist class and right wing groups. Of course there is. I'm saying that angry conservatives, just normal ass white folks, will show up to school board meetings. They go to the gun and hunting clubs. They go to bar. They go to each other's houses.
They touch grass.
People need to get off Era more, get off Bluesky more, get off TikTok more, and interact with people. Start a neighborhood pod. Go to mutual aid. Join an organization.
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