Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2)

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

so it's just like supporting kpop

[benji]

Jeff's lucky he's not prominent.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-politics-2025-ot-taco-trump-and-the-big-beautiful-bullshit.1236576/page-47#post-144602958

They fucking call AIDS "monkey pox" with a straight face? Jesus christ.

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-politics-2025-ot-taco-trump-and-the-big-beautiful-bullshit.1236576/page-47#post-144602958

I wish these people would just be honest, and say something along the lines of "We don't wanna do wind and solar cause it's for QUEERS!" or some shit.

The Trump admin could easily lean into the foreign manufacturing advantage in the solar industry if they wanted to: "What you want to powering your family home? Chinese solar energy or AMERICAN clean coal?" I'm inclined to think while their shift away from renewables is to appease fossil fuel industry interests, there really isn't much political interest in really bashing it.

But solar and wind power subsidizing is good for fossil fuel industry interests, which is why they support it and are all invested in it?  

Also that community note is blatantly false.

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

nazi nazi nazi nazi

[Chumbawumbafan69]

I better not see an EVO thread again on Era. It should be banned. 

You have to remember the golden rule of Era: When it's something I like then we should let people enjoy things since there's no ethical consumption under capitalism. When it's something I don't like then you are literally worse than Hitler for engaging with it.

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

FGC threads should be consolidated into a containment thread just like WWE.

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

The first 26 seconds is why the FGC should be banned from Era

[benji]

Of course they're backing Western colonialism like "Taiwan" over Global South liberation because libs like Obama never learned anti-colonialist basics.

edit: Ugh, can't even escape the fascist colonialism in Titanfall 2:

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

even posting that in quotes is backing western colonialism, benji

Chinese Taipei. Only Chinese Taipei.

[benji]

The reason I do not add word filters for colonialist and fascist language is so we can see which posters will go mask off.

[Daffy Duck]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/profound-autism-and-anti-neurodiversity-how-advocates-for-autism-are-pushing-against-the-neurodiversity-movement-and-shutting-down-self-advocacy.1287162/

Ember Green is a Neurodivergent Youtuber I got into pretty recently that is a major advocate for Neurodivergent rights while also talking about leftist topics and feminism and how they insect. She has a fab video on how JK Rowling is Ableist on top of her other hateful opinions.

ABOUT THE VIDEO ITSELF (as it is 2 hours long and it's nice to explain what it's about even if it's 45 seconds) - Ember focuses mainly on the "Profound Autism" movement made up largely of parents and so called "supporters of Autism" trying to push for a new diagnosis that will segregate people living with autism into "those that can take care of themselves" and "those that can't" and how this is further harming those with autism as it is taking away their ability to advocate for themselves.

This whole thread will be..

As someone with autism….

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/profound-autism-and-anti-neurodiversity-how-advocates-for-autism-are-pushing-against-the-neurodiversity-movement-and-shutting-down-self-advocacy.1287162/

Ember Green is a Neurodivergent Youtuber I got into pretty recently that is a major advocate for Neurodivergent rights while also talking about leftist topics and feminism and how they insect. She has a fab video on how JK Rowling is Ableist on top of her other hateful opinions.

ABOUT THE VIDEO ITSELF (as it is 2 hours long

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

I'll care more about parents who actually have to raise autistic children over a self diagnosed or high functioning person tyvm.

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

if you need 2 hours to tell someone you're point you've lost the plot anyway

[benji]

She discusses how a lot of those living with autism are more aware of their surroundings and experiences than these parents realize and that they just aren't ever given the tools to be able to communicate for themselves, especially because tools that do exist such as communication devices are expensive and these students aren't given the same education as others.

Are they autistic or mute and illiterate? 

She also argues that while the level of support each person requires can vary greatly, the ones we should hear the most from are those requiring the most support so they can be treated with dignity and receive that help especially as governments are cutting funding. Every human deserves to be treated as one and shown the same dignity.

Hayek wrote about this like 50 years ago. (Not to give him full credit, he acknowledged he wasn't original.) Some day people might listen.

[Boredfrom]

Ember focuses mainly on the "Profound Autism" movement made up largely of parents and so called "supporters of Autism" trying to push for a new diagnosis that will segregate people living with autism into "those that can take care of themselves" and "those that can't" and how this is further harming those with autism as it is taking away their ability to advocate for themselves.

No more asspats to us, the high functioning.

[Daffy Duck]

I'm not sure what you're looking for here but I can you the reality of my profoundly autistic child is that they can't tell you their name or have a conversation with you. They cannot look after themselves.

This is a significant difference to my friends and coworkers who struggle with social conventions, tendency towards direct and blunt speech, etc

Dismissing concerns?

[BananaBlast]

LMAO What the fuck is the "neurodivergent gaze"?!?! 

[Boredfrom]

Ariel: Feminist, Iconic, Autistic?

 

Tumblr and Tv Tropes fucked an entire generation.

[benji]

LMAO What the fuck is the "neurodivergent gaze"?!?! 

Here's what's funny about a lot of these channels, look at the length of these two videos. 50 minutes and 40 minutes, so an hour and a half. From just looking at the comments you can immediately tell what they're about and just extrapolate from there. It's unlikely you'll lose anything of importance because they're typically such banal ideas. Though I guess you would miss out on the 90% of it that's the person's head talking at you.

The first chick is saying there's a way neurodivergent people look, the second chick is saying she's wrong.

For some reason both of these people have decided to outline their thoughts on this for over half an hour. Even though it's just obviously false from the moment you suggest it. Both videos spend a significant amount of time discussing male and female gaze for some reason.

All of which these comments on the second video put quite a bit more pithy, with my preference being the first one:

@andromeda1515
1 year ago
As an autistic person myself, I know that black and white thinking is a common struggle in autistic people. But there's nuance to literally EVERYTHING. I catch myself not making space for nuance all the time and it just takes some more thinking on the topic and listening to other experiences. This whole "neurotypical aesthetic/gaze" vs "neurodivergent aesthetic/gaze" thing lacks any nuance at all. I hope those people can work on that

@TricksterModeEngaged
1 year ago
I think "gaze" is now just one of those academic/Serious Art Critic terms that became popularized in a way that sort of muddled people's understanding of what it means in that context. People heard "male gaze" used in film criticism often enough without a clear explanation of what it meant in that context and came away thinking "it means whatever a literal man likes looking at" and not "a way of creating and looking at film (or other visual art) that presupposes who is the default idea of the creator is, who the default assumed viewer is, what that viewer would be looking at and who/what in the frame is a subject vs an object, centering an assumed (straight) male perspective".

Now, could a "neurotypical gaze" be a thing? I think we can argue that the same kind of framework can apply, but it would be less about "what do The Neurotypicals like" and more about how mental illness and neurological differences are framed and how neuroatypical characters are variously othered, objectified and abjectified (sonetimes all at once).

@2natrix
1 year ago (edited)
I've been saying the "dressing for the male gaze vs female gaze" and " were you written by a man or written by a woman" trends were just slut-shaming with extra steps. And now this, it's just repackaged "not like the other girls" nonsense. Even ignoring how the term was originally used for film critique and using it more broadly, the entire point of "the male gaze" is that it is inescapable. Your poofy floral dresses and colorful makeup are still perceived through the male gaze because we live in a patriarchal society.

I suppose I am curious if the response actually did ever just point out that this idea is stupid on its face, but these comments would indicate that no, the response didn't or why else would they write the comments.

This person doesn't seem to understand how time works for others:

@MainelyMandy
1 year ago
How are we in the year 2024 and still seeing iterations of "no like other girls" shit? I thought I left this behind in high school 😭

This chick gets it:

@rachelurquhart6686
9 months ago
Insta baddie aesthetic = conforming to capitalist patriarchy. Pink hair and alt fashion bought from aliexpress = challenging the system.

Anyway look at this stupid tweet:

[Polident]

It’s nice to see a neurodivergent YouTube essayist among all the neurotypical guys making eight hour videos about the Saban live action Sailor Moon pilot. Or how Paw Patrol is about the 1985 MOVE bombings.

[benji]

The one Ember Green video had another person as a guest, so I went to that channel to see it:

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

At least the lengths are shorter.

[benji]

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

[Potato]

They don't really get that most of the Saudi investment is about diversifying their wealth, and being inherited wealth billionaires they're buying lots of stuff they're personally interested in, not legitimate profit-seeking. It's to smooth out the gains rather than be tied entirely to the price of oil. The tiny shares of legitimate businesses they're buying are far more important to the wealth fund than the personal trinkets of sports teams and fighting game tournaments that will probably just lose money.

Correction.

Their investment in Newcastle United has generated a significant increase in value from their initial investment and has provided a global billboard for their other wholly or part owned companies.

[HaughtyFrank]

My favorite 

[benji]

Autism spectrum disorder is characterised by persistent deficits in the ability to initiate and to sustain reciprocal social interaction and social communication, and by a range of restricted, repetitive, and inflexible patterns of behaviour, interests or activities that are clearly atypical or excessive for the individual's age and sociocultural context. The onset of the disorder occurs during the developmental period, typically in early childhood, but symptoms may not become fully manifest until later, when social demands exceed limited capacities. Deficits are sufficiently severe to cause impairment in personal, family, social, educational, occupational or other important areas of functioning and are usually a pervasive feature of the individual’s functioning observable in all settings, although they may vary according to social, educational, or other context. Individuals along the spectrum exhibit a full range of intellectual functioning and language abilities.

Essential (Required) Features:

• Persistent deficits in initiating and sustaining social communication and reciprocal social interactions that are outside the expected range of typical functioning given the individual’s age and level of intellectual development. Specific manifestations of these deficits vary according to chronological age, verbal and intellectual ability, and disorder severity. Manifestations may include limitations in the following:
  
• Understanding of, interest in, or inappropriate responses to the verbal or non-verbal social communications of others.
  
• Integration of spoken language with typical complimentary non-verbal cues, such as eye contact, gestures, facial expressions and body language. These non-verbal behaviours may also be reduced in frequency or intensity.
  
• Understanding and use of language in social contexts and ability to initiate and sustain reciprocal social conversations.
  
• Social awareness, leading to behaviour that is not appropriately modulated according to the social context.
  
• Ability to imagine and respond to the feelings, emotional states, and attitudes of others.
  
• Mutual sharing of interests.
  
• Ability to make and sustain typical peer relationships.
  
• Persistent restricted, repetitive, and inflexible patterns of behaviour, interests, or activities that are clearly atypical or excessive for the individual’s age and sociocultural context. These may include:
  
• Lack of adaptability to new experiences and circumstances, with associated distress, that can be evoked by trivial changes to a familiar environment or in response to unanticipated events.
  
• Inflexible adherence to particular routines; for example, these may be geographic such as following familiar routes, or may require precise timing such as mealtimes or transport.
  
• Excessive adherence to rules (e.g., when playing games).
  
• Excessive and persistent ritualized patterns of behaviour (e.g., preoccupation with lining up or sorting objects in a particular way) that serve no apparent external purpose.
  
• Repetitive and stereotyped motor movements, such as whole body movements (e.g., rocking), atypical gait (e.g., walking on tiptoes), unusual hand or finger movements and posturing. These behaviours are particularly common during early childhood.
  
• Persistent preoccupation with one or more special interests, parts of objects, or specific types of stimuli (including media) or an unusually strong attachment to particular objects (excluding typical comforters).
  
• Lifelong excessive and persistent hypersensitivity or hyposensitivity to sensory stimuli or unusual interest in a sensory stimulus, which may include actual or anticipated sounds, light, textures (especially clothing and food), odors and tastes, heat, cold, or pain.
  
• The onset of the disorder occurs during the developmental period, typically in early childhood, but characteristic symptoms may not become fully manifest until later, when social demands exceed limited capacities.
  
• The symptoms result in significant impairment in personal, family, social, educational, occupational or other important areas of functioning. Some individuals with Autism Spectrum Disorder are able to function adequately in many contexts through exceptional effort, such that their deficits may not be apparent to others. A diagnosis of Autism Spectrum Disorder is still appropriate in such cases.

Folx, I know they have videos insisting otherwise but I'm starting to get a little skeptical about if these women actually are autistic or not and if their videos actually are about autism versus an attempt to construct an "autistic" personality.

[benji]

Folx, I know they have videos insisting otherwise but I'm starting to get a little skeptical about if these women actually are autistic or not and if their videos actually are about autism versus an attempt to construct an "autistic" personality.

^WRONG

 <- AUTISTIC

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

My favorite 

how can I make money on youtube.. oh I know, I'll use my anxiety disorder to say I'm autistic and grift the left. 

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

yeah that's great and all but who is your favorite Saja Boy?

^Wrong
<- Autistic